**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 15 02:59:57 2009 Jul 15 07:05:46 * jaxx salut tlm Jul 15 08:27:52 hi Jul 15 08:28:18 i tried limiting the bandwitdth... i configured it to 512kbps to try.... Jul 15 08:28:40 teorically, 64kB/s max Jul 15 08:29:09 a speed test gives me 4500kbps of download and 830kbps of upload Jul 15 08:29:38 also, i'm downloading a file at 180kB/s (1440kbps) Jul 15 08:32:30 hey Jul 15 08:32:37 nice already give rc5? Jul 15 08:32:56 Samba on Windows accepts all filesizes and allows you to create folders properly (thanks for the hint deco!) => samba size is fixed? Jul 15 08:40:16 some kind of limit is applied to the public network Jul 15 08:40:36 because with the private network i can download at nearly 11000kbps Jul 15 08:40:45 but not the limit i told it to apply Jul 15 09:10:05 :( can't get bw limit to apply correctly Jul 15 09:49:13 olà Jul 15 10:14:06 hi everyone Jul 15 10:14:29 anyone here? Jul 15 10:15:11 hi Jul 15 10:15:16 i am here Jul 15 10:20:42 hi Jul 15 10:22:01 can you guys help me with some simple questions Jul 15 10:22:30 does anyone use the Fonera to access an external hard drive remotely? Jul 15 10:23:11 i mean to access an usb external drive connected to the fonera Jul 15 10:23:14 remotly Jul 15 10:23:31 i used to, do you need help¿ Jul 15 10:25:22 how is the bandwidth limited in la fonera 2.0? Jul 15 10:25:28 iptables? Jul 15 10:25:49 just wanted to know if it is easy to setup in order to access files remotely ...i can upload at 10 mbits....i'm looking into being able to access files such as music and video to download to anoter computer Jul 15 10:25:51 is it possible? Jul 15 10:29:37 you mean store and access files? yes, it's possible Jul 15 10:29:51 not very stable with ntfs though Jul 15 10:30:12 for my fonera 2.0, it's now Jul 10th Jul 15 10:30:21 can you check logread? Jul 15 10:30:37 time seems to be ok, setted as UTC Jul 15 10:31:58 olà Jul 15 10:32:00 updated :P Jul 15 10:33:13 can you check the date on your fonera? Jul 15 10:33:24 # date Jul 15 10:33:24 Fri Jul 10 15:29:05 UTC 2009 Jul 15 10:33:26 :S Jul 15 10:34:33 sec Jul 15 10:34:49 where i can check it? Jul 15 10:35:17 ssh? Jul 15 10:35:37 i dont have it...using end user firm Jul 15 10:36:02 i try deveplover later :P Jul 15 10:37:34 are you on linux? Jul 15 10:40:03 you don't need to enable ssh, you can check the http headers Jul 15 10:40:12 curl -I http://fonera/ | grep Date Jul 15 10:42:04 i have vista Jul 15 10:42:14 samba dont work -.- Jul 15 10:42:57 there's some problem with vista Jul 15 10:43:09 vista sux at so much levels... Jul 15 10:43:10 xD Jul 15 10:43:57 you can make it to work, but i don't know how (and i don't care, actually) Jul 15 10:44:09 decodecoding knows how to Jul 15 10:45:44 Comet: yes Jul 15 10:46:05 comet you can access files over inet with samba, ftp, ssh Jul 15 10:46:18 speed varies on line, hdd, filesystem ... Jul 15 10:46:48 and the services like ftp and samba have a protocol overhead which will affect the speed Jul 15 11:02:14 jorgesuarezdeli3 Jul 15 11:02:25 with the rc4 Jul 15 11:02:31 samba work with vista Jul 15 11:02:40 by editing register Jul 15 11:02:48 dont know why dont work :/ Jul 15 11:09:54 i'll be accessing files from a remote computer using windows vista. The external hard drive will probably be formated in NTFS Jul 15 11:10:40 the file system is performance intensive but if speeds are good enought i would rather use NTFS Jul 15 11:11:01 Hi. In Dashboard >> Settings>> Wireless >> Advanced Wireless Settings>> Bitrate>> n only IS true or error Jul 15 11:11:23 my goal is to use windows media player to stream mp3 and video files. Jul 15 11:13:36 streaming is not the correct word....most players allows you to start hearing music or seeing videos while they're downloading ... Jul 15 11:14:10 well... the http protocol should be enough to fit most needs Jul 15 11:14:23 What speeds can you achieve when uploading from the fonera 2.0 to a remote computer Jul 15 11:14:23 no need to use specific streaming protocols Jul 15 11:14:29 exactly Jul 15 11:14:53 you mean from a hard disk connected to the usb? Jul 15 11:15:12 it depends on the disk, the filesystem and the wifi signal Jul 15 11:15:46 why I doesn't connect to my usb disc in win vista? Jul 15 11:15:53 i don't really know, i can make some tests now if you want with a slow pendrive.... Jul 15 11:16:21 PTbig: there's a problem with windows vista, it's windows vista problem i think Jul 15 11:16:40 Comet: i'll do some tests, please wait... Jul 15 11:17:33 the disk will probably be around 500Gbytes to 1TB. Quality hard drive 7200rpms ..It will be a fast hard drive Jul 15 11:18:15 i've made a basic speed test locally Jul 15 11:18:17 filesystem NTFS. As far as the wifi signal i won't be using wifi Jul 15 11:18:21 $ LANG=en dd if=/dev/zero of=./archivo.bin bs=512 count=200000 Jul 15 11:18:21 200000+0 records in Jul 15 11:18:21 200000+0 records out Jul 15 11:18:21 102400000 bytes (102 MB) copied, 9.07502 s, 11.3 MB/s Jul 15 11:18:24 the win vista say A device attached to the system in not functioning Jul 15 11:18:32 now i'll connect it to la fonera and try to download that archivo.bin i wrote Jul 15 11:18:32 i'll connect using dyndns from the internet Jul 15 11:18:55 11 Mbytes? Jul 15 11:18:59 that seams good Jul 15 11:19:05 on a wifi signal? Jul 15 11:19:06 MB/s, but locally Jul 15 11:19:12 no no, on a console, on my computer Jul 15 11:19:26 ok that is good Jul 15 11:19:28 it's just to check that it's fast enough Jul 15 11:19:32 now i'll connect it to la fonera Jul 15 11:19:41 yes it is good enough Jul 15 11:20:00 obviously internet connections get in the way Jul 15 11:20:24 if the fonera can upload using even half of my internet upload speed it is good enough Jul 15 11:20:48 do you think it can handle something along the lines of a 5 megabits/sec upload? Jul 15 11:22:38 gnome is giving me about 560KiB/s of download Jul 15 11:22:54 min 500KiB, max 680KiB Jul 15 11:23:00 sorry, max 580KiB Jul 15 11:23:16 using the private network Jul 15 11:23:45 the pendrive is formatted in vfat (fat32) Jul 15 11:23:55 using ext2 or ext3 you should get similar speed rates Jul 15 11:23:58 using ntfs should be slower Jul 15 11:26:24 580 Kbytes/s on a fat32? Jul 15 11:26:24 seams good Jul 15 11:26:54 at least for what i want to do Jul 15 11:28:46 thanks Jul 15 11:30:09 580 KiB actually Jul 15 11:30:29 that's 566KB+ Jul 15 11:31:47 hi Jul 15 11:32:22 does anyone translated the fonera2.0 firmware to portuguese? Jul 15 11:34:44 I've updated to rc5 but the samba password is still "admin", not my password Jul 15 11:35:17 it got me some time to figure it out Jul 15 11:35:22 to translate the firmware to portuguese al i need is the files on fonosfera website? one of the links (with strings) dont work Jul 15 11:38:20 david__: yes, you "just" need to translate all the *.en.lua files Jul 15 11:39:47 I have browser.pt, cbi.pt, default.pt no longer lack anything Jul 15 11:41:38 Hello. All services work ok from WAN for me Jul 15 11:41:48 with DynDNS Jul 15 11:42:48 In Dashboard >> Settings>> Wireless >> Advanced Wireless Settings>> Bitrate>> n only IS true or error Jul 15 11:43:20 but in webcam, I only can see the big format view Jul 15 13:08:52 the new rc5 dont likes me :( Jul 15 13:09:07 what's the problem? Jul 15 13:11:29 i use a static ip for the f2. after flashing the dashboard shows: IP Adress: N/A; Gateway: N/A; DNS: N/A and orange light Jul 15 13:13:00 after switch to dhcp its the same problem, all N/A and orange light Jul 15 13:13:16 oops, weird Jul 15 13:14:14 now i have done a factory reset and dhcp works Jul 15 13:19:07 I think Transmission is started automatically at every reboot once it it installed. Is this right or is it only me? Jul 15 13:19:58 Actually, it is performing quite well... 3 torrents downloading simulteneusly and still able to acces its GUI from the internet Jul 15 13:21:14 the f2 gui or the transmission gui? Jul 15 13:21:15 How can I open the transmission inxoming por wich is by default 51413 ? Jul 15 13:21:23 The transmission gui Jul 15 13:22:35 hi all! :) Jul 15 13:22:44 hi Danicasti Jul 15 13:22:59 heya :) Jul 15 13:23:10 All ok???? Jul 15 13:23:22 so far so good Jul 15 13:23:26 at least for me Jul 15 13:23:51 I have to test the Youtube, Flickr, etcetera, things... Jul 15 13:24:05 37 °C :/ Jul 15 13:25:43 the 1.6 webcam plugin don't work... Jul 15 13:26:01 I can only see the big format image Jul 15 13:26:23 26°C and rain Jul 15 13:27:19 I use the 1.5, however, I can see the images with VLC Jul 15 13:51:04 transmission asks for username and password, what are they? Jul 15 13:53:46 fonero, and your password Jul 15 13:53:50 admin by default Jul 15 13:54:54 whats the purpose of the username and password on the transmission client Jul 15 13:55:06 Jmares: root and gui password Jul 15 13:55:31 I guess is to avoid people from the internet to see your downloads in case you have enabled WAN access Jul 15 13:56:51 afaik the instructions that come with the fonera only come with a password, admin, but not a username- correct? Jul 15 13:57:25 I didn't read the instructions, I must confess :-p Jul 15 13:57:29 also, i would expect the user to forget all that after a couple of days Jul 15 13:58:01 Decodecoding: exactly, most users dont. i actually did and wouldn-t have rememberd that if it was there. i don't think it is, though, is it? Jul 15 14:04:26 I think it's ok Jul 15 14:05:31 For me, the most important thing is that it works fine (after all we suffered wih torrents). Now, I only miss features such as queuing and other minor stuff Jul 15 14:06:11 nas Jul 15 14:06:16 yep i agree, it works beautifully :) Jul 15 14:06:22 alguien operativo? Jul 15 14:06:22 xD Jul 15 14:06:26 im just testing everything Jul 15 14:06:35 for bugs , usability, etc Jul 15 14:06:48 i need downgrade my fonera 2202, but... no access to redboot :(? Jul 15 14:06:57 one soluction? Jul 15 14:06:59 please :) Jul 15 14:07:08 Xonito, why downgrade? Jul 15 14:07:25 Xonito: use ssh + mtd Jul 15 14:07:30 there is a howto in the wiki Jul 15 14:07:34 i need change the flipper for openwrt Jul 15 14:07:35 :) Jul 15 14:07:41 no go Jul 15 14:07:42 Decodecoding: the USB drive connected to the Fonera doesn't show up on windows, is there a way to do that? Jul 15 14:07:56 blogic Jul 15 14:07:58 Wich OS are you using jmares? Jul 15 14:08:08 ssh ok + mtd :S what? Jul 15 14:08:10 what OS Jul 15 14:08:24 Decodecoding: win xp and mac os x leopard Jul 15 14:08:29 but we can focus on win xp Jul 15 14:08:39 have you enable UPnP? Jul 15 14:08:52 no, is that on fonera settings? Jul 15 14:09:04 yeah, in the firewall section Jul 15 14:09:13 got it Jul 15 14:10:16 como puedo hacer el donwgrade de la fonera? Jul 15 14:10:18 :S Jul 15 14:12:09 Decodecoding do i have to do anything else apart from activating UPnP Jul 15 14:12:37 I don't think so. Maybe a PC and fonera reboot will help Jul 15 14:12:44 ok Jul 15 14:13:24 Decodecoding is it the same thing for Mac OS X Jul 15 14:13:50 definitely, rc5 dont likes me Jul 15 14:13:58 I can't tell you anything about Mac. It's an unknown world for me Jul 15 14:14:02 ok Jul 15 14:17:23 i do not access to redboot :S alternative metod for change the firmware? :S Jul 15 14:17:54 why not just upload the firmware to the fonera the usual way Jul 15 14:17:57 Xonito: why you want to change the firmware to openprt? Jul 15 14:18:07 openwrt Jul 15 14:18:41 for change the options Jul 15 14:46:53 olà Jul 15 14:46:59 heya Jul 15 14:47:31 i have just installed RC5 today Jul 15 14:47:35 samba dont work Jul 15 14:47:48 i have to hack the regedit again? Jul 15 14:47:56 set password again Jul 15 14:48:02 in forner WEBGUI Jul 15 14:48:13 fonera Webgui Jul 15 14:48:27 ok Jul 15 14:49:01 done Jul 15 14:49:17 My two cents for today :-d Jul 15 14:49:49 it say an connected device on system is not working Jul 15 14:49:52 lol Jul 15 14:50:24 reboot everything, fonera and PC. That allways helps... Jul 15 14:50:55 y Jul 15 14:54:43 same error Jul 15 14:54:45 o.o Jul 15 14:55:13 That worked for me... Jul 15 14:55:15 is an usb problem Jul 15 14:55:16 i think Jul 15 14:55:26 the usb led continue to flash Jul 15 14:55:40 flash slow Jul 15 14:55:41 Give it some time Jul 15 14:58:26 Barbon: you can check your usb stick with http://www.heise.de/ct/Redaktion/bo/downloads/h2testw_1.4.zip Jul 15 15:01:20 again same Jul 15 15:01:28 ho much time take? Jul 15 15:01:39 Don't you have another disk or stick to test? Jul 15 15:02:14 Barbon: you can check your usb stick with http://www.heise.de/ct/Redaktion/bo/downloads/h2testw_1.4.zip (only windows supported file systems) Jul 15 15:02:34 Don't remove 3.84 GB (21%) Jul 15 15:02:57 sec Jul 15 15:03:07 it was trasmission Jul 15 15:03:09 i think Jul 15 15:03:36 Maybe it has started and it verifying incomplete downloads Jul 15 15:03:47 i have stutdown it Jul 15 15:03:51 that makes fonera think slower Jul 15 15:03:54 mmm Jul 15 15:04:15 yeah, but I suspect transmission starts automatically. I asked for a confirmation Jul 15 15:04:21 ye Jul 15 15:04:25 i reboot Jul 15 15:05:18 Decodecoding: yes it starts automaticlly, even after a factory reset (i think because of the stored settings on the hdd) Jul 15 15:05:48 right kazwo Jul 15 15:06:39 and it automaticlly resume unfinished downloads Jul 15 15:06:47 *torrents Jul 15 15:07:03 yes, it verifies them Jul 15 15:07:16 and that can take some time Jul 15 15:08:09 ye Jul 15 15:08:29 Torrent Transmission start in automatily Jul 15 15:08:35 when i plug usb pen Jul 15 15:08:45 yes Jul 15 15:08:58 is an bug -.- Jul 15 15:09:21 i try to delete Jul 15 15:09:28 the torrent Jul 15 15:10:11 folder Jul 15 15:10:58 i think its not a bug, it was a requested feature. (the autostart of transmission) Jul 15 15:11:15 k Jul 15 15:11:19 yeah, I created a ticket Jul 15 15:11:29 maybe put an option Jul 15 15:11:31 can be good Jul 15 15:11:50 Hoever, I hope it will be an option in the future Jul 15 15:12:29 jah k Jul 15 15:12:30 k Jul 15 15:12:37 ? Jul 15 15:14:58 http://blog.fonosfera.org/ Jul 15 15:15:33 inouk: nice! i test it later :) Jul 15 15:16:48 so many releases! Jul 15 15:17:52 Decodecoding: unlimited testing :P Jul 15 15:20:03 muaahaaaahahahaa Jul 15 15:22:48 cool Jul 15 15:24:49 Nice, it work from WAN and Firefox 3.5. I'm seeing my downloads Jul 15 15:24:56 Good work guys Jul 15 15:25:06 i quote Deco! Jul 15 15:25:07 GG Jul 15 15:27:02 the only thing is it will ask for user/pass everytime I start Firefox Jul 15 15:30:24 yes :( Jul 15 15:30:43 lol Jul 15 15:31:02 the plugin should automaticlly answer on the .htaccess request if someone connects from wan Jul 15 15:31:40 fortunately, the plugin is easy to update Jul 15 15:33:21 service pack for windows vista is come o-o Jul 15 15:33:24 sp2 Jul 15 15:34:29 I have more than a month ago Jul 15 15:35:32 i still have sp1 Jul 15 15:37:34 kazwo: can you try this workaround: in the fonera address add your authentication details, like this: user:password@fonera-address:port Jul 15 15:37:41 and see if it works Jul 15 15:38:02 one moment Jul 15 15:38:22 the problem is that when you access that page from outside the lan, there's http authentication and that's firefox, not the proper plugin that triggers the auth dialog Jul 15 15:38:36 the same thing happened when adding the transmission support Jul 15 15:38:43 yes Jul 15 15:38:48 aha Jul 15 15:38:56 so I pass the auth credentials in the proper url Jul 15 15:39:02 so no questions are asked :D Jul 15 15:39:15 i am currently testing the umts mode. cant check the plugin at the moment. Jul 15 15:39:25 if that works we should probably add that to the wiki Jul 15 15:41:33 Yes. Seems to work Jul 15 15:43:05 good Jul 15 15:43:15 we need to add that information to the wiki Jul 15 15:43:27 I can't now Jul 15 15:43:41 no problem Jul 15 15:44:24 hi there Jul 15 15:44:53 does anybody knows when the C-motech D-50 from Ice.net will be supported? Jul 15 15:45:19 because the configuration at this moment are wrong Jul 15 15:49:07 prolife: dont know sorry Jul 15 15:53:05 thx Jul 15 15:59:02 javiermon: i can confirm Decodecoding's test. no question at startup and all stats showing correctly Jul 15 15:59:16 thanks Jul 15 15:59:24 we will try to add a wiki page Jul 15 15:59:28 explaining the issue Jul 15 15:59:31 and the workaroung Jul 15 15:59:36 workaround Jul 15 15:59:41 thanks guys Jul 15 15:59:53 no problem :) Jul 15 16:04:42 blogic: is it hard to add a http uploader for youtube, flickr, picasa ... ? Jul 15 16:21:18 kazwo: depends Jul 15 16:21:23 what do you wanna upload to ? Jul 15 16:23:04 blogic: Currently pictures or videos can only transfer with samba, ftp or usb stick to the La Fonera 2.0. I would welcome an additional option to upload pictures or videos via http from WAN. This may also combined with the firefox plugin. Jul 15 16:23:22 ah ok Jul 15 16:23:25 hmmm Jul 15 16:23:31 should be easy to add i guess Jul 15 16:23:36 but i do not see the use Jul 15 16:23:49 if you can uplaod them 1 by 1 you are faster to use the youtube gui directly Jul 15 16:23:50 imho Jul 15 16:27:27 yes, but you have to remember your youtube login, picasa login, facebook login etc.. if you send it to the f2 you have only remember your f2 login Jul 15 16:36:18 Example: I'am somewhere in the World and i'am on a public internet terminal which only allows port 80 access and i want to upload my pictures to flickr, picasa and facebook at once. Jul 15 16:36:18 Then I send my pictures to the La Fonera 2.0 one time and the Fonera distribute my Pictures to flickr, picasa and facebootk. I dont have to remember all my Logins / Passwords and I do not need to worry about the distribution. Jul 15 17:24:53 See you later! Jul 15 17:38:32 someone with problems in rapidshare download's? Jul 15 17:39:23 status of my download is pending Jul 15 17:40:34 and when I connection, with speeds not exceeding 100 kb Jul 15 17:57:00 hmmm Jul 15 17:57:11 PTbig: that is strange Jul 15 17:58:18 which may be the problem Jul 15 18:00:44 hmmm Jul 15 18:00:49 I can't think of anything Jul 15 18:00:55 have yuo tried the same files on your pc? Jul 15 18:01:28 yes with rapidmanger all ok Jul 15 18:01:58 *rapidshare manager Jul 15 18:06:45 hmm Jul 15 18:06:52 with rapidshare manager download speed 800 kb Jul 15 18:06:52 what filesystem do you use on the disk? Jul 15 18:06:54 NTFS? Jul 15 18:06:57 yes Jul 15 18:07:05 :S Jul 15 18:07:05 wel,l the fonera won't ever get to 800KB/s hehe Jul 15 18:07:14 but you can get around 300KB/s Jul 15 18:07:16 hmm Jul 15 18:07:23 NTFS makes the fonera be slower Jul 15 18:07:28 but 100KB/s is too slow Jul 15 18:07:32 what fonera versino do you have? Jul 15 18:07:39 end user Jul 15 18:08:18 2.2.5 rc5 Jul 15 18:08:58 weird Jul 15 18:09:00 really weird Jul 15 18:09:05 I can't think of anything Jul 15 18:09:05 hmmm Jul 15 18:09:19 why don't you come by till you find a guys named CyrusFF? Jul 15 18:09:26 he did the plugni and knows a lot about it Jul 15 18:10:36 ok I hope :D Jul 15 18:10:41 tnk Jul 15 18:11:00 _o_ Jul 15 18:11:15 PTbig: did it work on other versions? Jul 15 18:11:42 no Jul 15 18:11:45 never Jul 15 18:12:48 always had this problem pesquisar Jul 15 18:22:43 hmmm Jul 15 18:22:57 well, I suggest you find someone with the same problem or you talk to cyrusFF Jul 15 18:23:18 ok Jul 15 18:23:38 thanks Jul 15 19:47:53 hmm the webinterface is crashed :( Jul 15 19:54:36 hey Jul 15 19:54:41 hi Jul 15 19:54:51 samba dont work tried on xp and vista Jul 15 19:55:29 error "It's impossible to connect the unit connected to network because is dont working Jul 15 19:55:46 \\192.168.10.1\Media is correct right? Jul 15 19:55:56 user fonero Jul 15 19:55:59 pass: mypass Jul 15 19:57:54 the link is not correct Jul 15 19:58:18 since rc5 the "Media" folder is removed Jul 15 19:58:58 for example: \\192.168.1.250\Disc-A1 Jul 15 20:01:42 exactly Jul 15 20:01:51 we need to change that to something more usable... Jul 15 20:01:53 we'll see Jul 15 20:06:47 tanks very much now a can connect my usb disc in win vista Jul 15 20:07:11 PTbig: good :) Jul 15 20:07:20 ok everybody Jul 15 20:07:29 I'm going to downtown san francisco!!! Jul 15 20:07:31 yahooo Jul 15 20:07:32 :) Jul 15 20:07:35 gonna get some food Jul 15 20:08:20 bye Jul 15 20:08:35 hi guys, how can i access the fonera's usb drive on windows as i would any other drive. or in finder using mac os x Jul 15 20:08:38 see you :) Jul 15 20:08:41 lucky you iurgi :) Jul 15 20:08:51 lucky iurgi Jul 15 20:09:12 jmares: what type of windows do you use? Jul 15 20:09:18 win xp Jul 15 20:09:21 i activated UPnP Jul 15 20:09:37 restarted both fonera and pc. don-t know what else to do Jul 15 20:23:41 jmares: explorer > extra > map network drive Jul 15 20:34:57 what is the use of the fonera_pictures and fonera_videos folder? Jul 15 20:44:11 ok i try Jul 15 20:44:13 sec Jul 15 20:46:43 where i can see the disk name? Jul 15 20:48:17 so what i have to write? 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