**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jul 29 02:59:57 2009
Jul 29 05:31:49 <iurgi> moooooooooooooooooooooourning
Jul 29 05:39:27 <xMff> morning
Jul 29 05:41:16 <iurgi> wow, pretty early :)
Jul 29 05:42:59 <xMff> ;)
Jul 29 06:35:14 <Danicasti> Buongiorno!
Jul 29 06:35:28 <iurgi> buongiorno
Jul 29 08:11:10 <Danicasti> Today I did not want to work ...
Jul 29 08:11:24 <Danicasti> :P
Jul 29 08:11:40 <iurgi> :)
Jul 29 08:11:49 <Danicasti> -15 for vacations! :)
Jul 29 08:12:43 <Danicasti> home lacks power ... f2 where are you?
Jul 29 08:13:58 <iurgi> is the fonera2.0 so stable that nobody complains?
Jul 29 08:19:32 <blogic> indeed
Jul 29 08:19:55 <Decodecoding> we're waiting for final release (H)
Jul 29 08:20:03 <blogic> hehe
Jul 29 08:20:05 <iurgi> :)
Jul 29 08:20:07 <blogic> 2.2.6.0 ? :)
Jul 29 08:20:14 <Decodecoding> yeah
Jul 29 08:21:47 <iurgi> soon my friend
Jul 29 08:21:47 <iurgi> :)
Jul 29 08:21:55 <Decodecoding> The only problem I found is samba, but I think that is already reported
Jul 29 08:22:09 <iurgi> which one is it, again?
Jul 29 08:22:32 <Decodecoding> In RC5 I don't see the fonera in the network
Jul 29 08:22:42 <Decodecoding> RC4 worked fine
Jul 29 08:22:59 <Decodecoding> someone can confirm this?
Jul 29 08:23:28 <iurgi> Decodecoding: ?
Jul 29 08:23:30 <iurgi> weird
Jul 29 08:25:54 <blogic> Decodecoding: windows network ?
Jul 29 08:26:03 <Decodecoding> yes, windows
Jul 29 08:26:59 <Decodecoding> I see an icon called "OpenWRT router" but the icon "LAFONERA2.0" does not appear anymore
Jul 29 08:27:11 <iurgi> hmm
Jul 29 08:27:13 <iurgi> does it work?
Jul 29 08:27:17 <iurgi> the openwrt router?
Jul 29 08:27:27 <Decodecoding> no, that icon doesn respond
Jul 29 08:27:57 <Decodecoding> It was the LAFONERA2.0 one the one that gave access to the network shares
Jul 29 08:28:40 <Decodecoding> BTW, I'm running Vista Home Premium. With RC4 all was fine.
Jul 29 08:29:04 <blogic> OpenWRT router ?
Jul 29 08:29:05 <blogic> lol
Jul 29 08:29:37 <Decodecoding> yes
Jul 29 08:30:57 <iurgi> blogic: yes, I noticed that on linux too
Jul 29 08:31:26 <blogic> i am grepping
Jul 29 08:31:53 <iurgi> I did it, but from very up in the tree level so it was taking ages
Jul 29 08:31:54 <iurgi> :)
Jul 29 09:41:56 <albert> hi
Jul 29 09:43:00 <albert> i was wondering if it's mandatory using lua to program for the fonera
Jul 29 09:43:05 <albert> or i can use C/C++
Jul 29 09:45:50 <blogic> it is linux
Jul 29 09:45:53 <blogic> :)
Jul 29 09:45:58 <blogic> basically this is how it works
Jul 29 09:46:06 <blogic> the webui we use is written in lua
Jul 29 09:46:15 <blogic> therefre we moved some base services to lua aswell
Jul 29 09:46:22 <blogic> like init and service management
Jul 29 09:46:29 <blogic> we have an event mechanism aswell
Jul 29 09:46:32 <albert> ok, so i can use anything compiled with gcc for it
Jul 29 09:46:43 <blogic> the system however can call c,bash,lua,.... events
Jul 29 09:46:44 <albert> given it fits into ram/disk
Jul 29 09:46:50 <blogic> yes
Jul 29 09:46:52 <blogic> well
Jul 29 09:46:58 <blogic> we have a thing called fmg
Jul 29 09:47:03 <blogic> fmg is a file format
Jul 29 09:47:09 <albert> reading http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/La_Fonera_2.0 i understand it has only 8 mb of disk?
Jul 29 09:47:12 <blogic> it allows you to install apps that are big on HDD
Jul 29 09:47:20 <blogic> we have USB :)
Jul 29 09:47:23 <blogic> so, add a disc
Jul 29 09:47:41 <blogic> store the fmg file (which is a fs loop device) on the hdd and then mount it at runtime
Jul 29 09:47:52 <blogic> a fmg can even request swap
Jul 29 09:48:02 <blogic> this is how we run torrent
Jul 29 09:48:06 <albert> perfect
Jul 29 09:48:13 <blogic> most of our base services are gcc compiled
Jul 29 09:48:19 <blogic> samba, pureftpd,
Jul 29 09:48:24 <albert> another more complicated question
Jul 29 09:48:25 <blogic> even our own control stuff
Jul 29 09:48:27 <blogic> yes
Jul 29 09:48:41 <albert> i see AR2315 can have virtual access points and that you are using two already
Jul 29 09:48:49 <blogic> ?
Jul 29 09:48:52 <blogic> ah ok
Jul 29 09:48:58 <albert> is it possible to create one more, and this one in ad-hoc mode?
Jul 29 09:49:01 <blogic> there is an announcemnt for the next generation fonera
Jul 29 09:49:05 <blogic> fonera20N
Jul 29 09:49:17 <blogic> it uses a different wisoc, a ralink 3052
Jul 29 09:49:27 <albert> oh
Jul 29 09:49:29 <albert> didn't see that
Jul 29 09:49:31 <blogic> the 3052 does up to 8 AP or 7AP + 1 STA
Jul 29 09:49:56 <blogic> the fonera20N has 384Mhz, 64mb ram, 802.11N
Jul 29 09:50:06 <albert> can one of these 8 be adhoc?
Jul 29 09:50:07 <blogic> the fonera20 has 180Mhz, 32mb ram, 802.11G
Jul 29 09:50:11 <blogic> phew
Jul 29 09:50:15 <blogic> i am not sure
Jul 29 09:50:21 <blogic> you wanna mesh ?
Jul 29 09:50:33 <xMff> albert: AP + Ad-Hoc does not work so well with madwifi#
Jul 29 09:50:37 <blogic> ideally you would add a usb wifi dongle for meshing
Jul 29 09:50:43 <blogic> xMff: this is ralink
Jul 29 09:50:49 <blogic> albert: on 20 it wont work
Jul 29 09:50:52 <albert> blogic: not really meshing, just pure adhoc
Jul 29 09:50:52 <xMff> blogic: not the 2.0!n ;)
Jul 29 09:50:53 <blogic> on 20N i will check
Jul 29 09:51:06 <blogic> hehe
Jul 29 09:51:29 <blogic> albert: i will read the docs, ask me again in a few days, then i can tell you
Jul 29 09:51:30 <xMff> albert: you can, however, try to use ap + ahdemo
Jul 29 09:51:34 <blogic> i never used the adhoc yet
Jul 29 09:51:52 <albert> blogic: thanks
Jul 29 09:52:06 <albert> xMff: on the 2.0 you mean? what's the difference between adhoc and ahdemo?
Jul 29 09:52:25 <xMff> albert: ahdemo is basically ad-hoc w/o beacons
Jul 29 09:52:36 <albert> oh
Jul 29 09:52:39 <albert> no, i need beacons
Jul 29 09:52:49 <xMff> ok
Jul 29 09:57:00 <albert> ok guys, thanks a lot, blogic i'll be back in a few days to ask that question
Jul 29 09:57:02 <albert> thanks again
Jul 29 09:57:04 <albert> bye!
Jul 29 11:42:51 <Decodecoding> Has anybody tested the samba issue we were discussing earlier today?
Jul 29 17:41:50 <Gabs86> hola
Jul 29 17:42:00 <blogic> hi
Jul 29 21:19:29 <Danicasti> Ciao Barbon!
Jul 29 21:19:42 <Barbon> heilà :D
Jul 29 21:19:56 <Barbon> porti notizie buone spero!
Jul 29 21:19:58 <Barbon> xD
Jul 29 21:20:26 <Danicasti> ...insomma.... mi avevi chiesto come fare per riportare la F1 in originale?
Jul 29 21:20:45 <Barbon> nn mi interessa + scusa ^^
Jul 29 21:21:00 <Barbon> xchè me serve per il bridge
Jul 29 21:21:02 <Barbon> xD
Jul 29 21:21:49 <Danicasti> Ah ok... mi ero allontanato un attimo...
Jul 29 21:22:18 <Barbon> asd
Jul 29 21:22:25 <Barbon> hai mai giocato a phoenix per ds?
Jul 29 21:22:56 <Danicasti>  no... i videogiochi non sono il mio forte...
Jul 29 21:23:17 <Barbon> OBBIEZIONE!|
Jul 29 21:23:52 <Barbon> http://objection.mrdictionary.net/go.php?n=3175152
Jul 29 21:23:55 <Barbon> guarda :P
Jul 29 21:24:40 <Danicasti> eheh! :D
Jul 29 21:25:36 <Danicasti> sto combinando un casino...
Jul 29 21:25:40 <Barbon> cioè
Jul 29 21:25:51 <Barbon> non dirmi che stai usando la fon per comunicare con gli alieni
Jul 29 21:25:53 <Barbon> O.o
Jul 29 21:26:15 <Danicasti> sto cercando di catturare dei dati dalla usb, connessa a un datalogger... un casino...ù
Jul 29 21:26:33 <Barbon> ah pensavo peggio xD
Jul 29 21:26:42 <Barbon> alla fine combinato qualcosa?
Jul 29 21:26:48 <Danicasti> uff... il tempo è tiranno...
Jul 29 21:27:25 <Danicasti> diciamo qualcosa... guarda quante volte ha crashato Danicasti_F2 ;(
Jul 29 21:27:34 <Barbon> asd
Jul 29 21:27:44 <Barbon> crashato il router?
Jul 29 21:27:54 <Danicasti> si...
Jul 29 21:28:35 <Barbon> O.o
Jul 29 21:28:49 <Barbon> a me al max crasha il router della tele2
Jul 29 21:28:51 <Barbon> xD
Jul 29 21:28:54 <Barbon> e dà problemi
Jul 29 21:28:58 <Barbon> tra poco passo a vodafone
Jul 29 21:29:00 <Barbon> 29 euro
Jul 29 21:29:18 <Danicasti> :)
Jul 29 21:29:59 <Barbon> te che conessione hai?
Jul 29 21:30:36 <Danicasti> alice... tramite bridge... :)
Jul 29 21:31:32 <Barbon> asd
Jul 29 21:31:42 <Barbon> appena arriva il router vodafone
Jul 29 21:31:47 <Barbon> butto fuori la fonera dalla finestra
Jul 29 21:31:49 <Barbon> xD
Jul 29 21:31:50 <Barbon> scherz
Jul 29 21:31:55 <Barbon> lo userò per scaricare e basta
Jul 29 21:32:17 <Danicasti> :D
Jul 29 21:36:47 <Danicasti> speriamo di essere più fortunati con la 20n...
Jul 29 21:41:40 <Barbon> lol
Jul 29 21:41:41 <Barbon> 20n?
Jul 29 21:41:54 <Barbon> la sorella della befana?
Jul 29 21:41:56 <Barbon> xD
Jul 29 21:42:54 <Danicasti> eheh!
Jul 29 21:43:27 <Danicasti> A me andrebbe bene anche così... avesse un server PHP e MySQL...
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