**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Aug 14 02:59:57 2009 Aug 14 06:38:41 Buongiorno! -4 hours to vacations :) Aug 14 09:49:38 [+355 days to vacation :-( ] Aug 14 09:51:42 How the FON 2.0n router should have been: http://www.dlink.com/products/?pid=695 Aug 14 15:58:56 oh man, wie ich die deutsche post hasse ... Aug 14 16:12:03 hola Aug 14 16:12:39 que? Aug 14 16:12:50 hay alguien? Aug 14 16:13:00 hmmmm Aug 14 16:13:23 Buscaba consejo sobre la fonera 2.0 Aug 14 16:13:42 n Aug 14 16:18:00 Muy util el foro Aug 14 20:53:01 ipserpregunta Aug 14 20:53:42 ipser: consejo soe que exactamente Aug 15 00:48:09 hi everyone Aug 15 00:48:26 anyone around here? Aug 15 00:48:58 nope Aug 15 00:49:12 ;) Aug 15 00:49:14 lol Aug 15 00:49:36 perhaps you can help me... Aug 15 00:49:55 i'm setting up my fonera. trying to access it remotely Aug 15 00:50:10 via dyndns Aug 15 00:50:36 seamed simple at first but it is giving me a fight Aug 15 00:51:05 i got a lan capple hooked from my isp router to the fonera 2.0 Aug 15 00:51:12 *cable Aug 15 00:51:41 lan or wan port on the f2 ? Aug 15 00:52:15 i think its the wan port ..the white one Aug 15 00:52:27 i can access the fonera localy Aug 15 00:52:35 192.168.10.1 Aug 15 00:52:37 no issue Aug 15 00:53:36 the fonera is hooked to the web too..since i can see the details on the dasboard Aug 15 00:54:34 the fonera was assigned an ip by dhcp Aug 15 00:54:45 192.168.0.11 for instance Aug 15 00:54:55 ok Aug 15 00:54:57 rings any bell? Aug 15 00:55:03 and ssh refuses connections to this ip? Aug 15 00:55:24 or do you try to access the ui (http) ? Aug 15 00:55:29 the ui Aug 15 00:56:01 I believe you need to open the firewall for that, allow port 80 from wan Aug 15 00:56:24 oh..wait i think i know what you mean Aug 15 00:56:34 firewall settings in the fonera router right? Aug 15 00:57:26 yes Aug 15 00:58:09 so let me see if i get this Aug 15 00:58:23 should i configure dyndns in my isp router or the fonera ? Aug 15 01:00:07 on your isp router Aug 15 01:00:15 the fonera does not know your real internet ip Aug 15 01:00:19 only your isp router does Aug 15 01:00:21 exactly Aug 15 01:00:25 only the local one i see Aug 15 01:00:46 and then i forward incoming requests to the fonera right? Aug 15 01:01:14 i do port forwarding correct? Aug 15 01:01:34 yes, your isp router should forward port 80 to the dhcp assigned ip of your fonera / port 80 Aug 15 01:01:53 great ... Aug 15 01:01:57 also you should make sure that the fonera always gets the same ip assigned Aug 15 01:02:18 look whether you have static dhcp / fixed dhcp or something similar Aug 15 01:04:12 it is dhcp Aug 15 01:04:31 but i'm testing with the correct ip as i see the number assign Aug 15 01:04:37 problem is Aug 15 01:05:07 my fonera assigned ip is 192.168.0.11 Aug 15 01:05:37 i have confirmed it in both the router and the fon ui Aug 15 01:06:21 yep that's okay, static dhcp is just to prevent that it gets another ip someday for some reason Aug 15 01:06:25 but if i try to connect with http://192.168.0.11:80 the fonera ui doesnt come u Aug 15 01:06:29 because then the port forward would break Aug 15 01:06:34 yeah Aug 15 01:07:16 my issue seams to be "knowing" what is the correct path to the foenra ui .using the isp router assigned ip to the fonera Aug 15 01:07:18 from where do you try to connect? Aug 15 01:07:36 a machine hooked up to your isp router? Aug 15 01:07:45 ive got a remote computer and a local hone Aug 15 01:07:49 both tests fail Aug 15 01:08:08 can you even ping the fonera wan ip? Aug 15 01:09:03 yes Aug 15 01:09:04 no issues Aug 15 01:09:19 then it's still a firewall issue on the fonera Aug 15 01:10:27 youre right Aug 15 01:11:11 i set everything to allow on the fonera firewall and when i now try 192.168.0.11 it requests a login Aug 15 01:11:49 there should be even dedicated checkboxes somewhere Aug 15 01:11:58 like open printing, open ssh, open web on wan Aug 15 01:13:10 ok if it requests a login then you should be fine Aug 15 01:14:23 i'm missing something here Aug 15 01:16:37 this is strange .. i got hte login box only once Aug 15 01:19:29 you're sure the ui for the fonera is on port 80? Aug 15 01:20:07 yes Aug 15 01:20:27 what do you get now? Aug 15 01:21:33 ok this is what i have now Aug 15 01:21:48 everything set to allow on the fonera firewall settings Aug 15 01:22:17 dyndns is disabled on the fonera Aug 15 01:24:49 dyndns is enabled on my isp router Aug 15 01:25:52 i have now tested remote accessing my isp router using dyndns Aug 15 01:26:09 router.dyndns.org:8080 shows me the router access Aug 15 01:27:20 so router access is fine Aug 15 01:27:45 problem is accessing the fonera ui with the assigned router ip Aug 15 01:27:59 from the remote machine? Aug 15 01:29:54 yes Aug 15 01:29:58 and local too Aug 15 01:30:10 the fonera has two networks right Aug 15 01:30:11 one wan Aug 15 01:30:13 and one lan Aug 15 01:30:38 the wan has the assigned "local ip" of 192.168.0.11 Aug 15 01:30:55 the lan is the default one that works fine 192.168.1.10 Aug 15 01:31:24 right Aug 15 01:32:35 if you use the remote machine (I assume remote = not your isp connection) you can access 192.168.0.11 via your public wan ip on the isp router with whatever port you've choosen to forward to the fonera Aug 15 01:32:46 the fonera is connected to the isp router by lan and to my pc by wifi ..that is why i can acces ithe 192.168.1.10 Aug 15 01:32:52 yes Aug 15 01:32:59 remote as in a different nation Aug 15 01:33:01 :P Aug 15 01:33:59 so right now your pc's nic is connected to the fonera lan and you access the fonera wan via your wireless, the is router and then caple to the f2 wan port Aug 15 01:34:20 hmpf Aug 15 01:34:38 *sip router, **cable Aug 15 01:34:43 ***isp router Aug 15 01:34:44 :P Aug 15 01:35:21 something like that ..but more like Aug 15 01:35:31 wifi connects pc to fonera Aug 15 01:35:46 if i disconnect wifi ..the 192.168.1.10 doent work Aug 15 01:36:01 lan cable connected from isp router to fonera Aug 15 01:36:13 in the wan port Aug 15 01:36:23 i dont use the lan port from fon to pc Aug 15 01:36:53 right now Aug 15 01:36:59 i just disconnected the wifi Aug 15 01:37:10 just to have it setup locally like this Aug 15 01:37:17 could be less error prone Aug 15 01:37:26 isp router is the primary one Aug 15 01:37:41 i have two lan cables Aug 15 01:37:45 one to the pc Aug 15 01:37:49 and one to the fonera Aug 15 01:37:54 it's not unlikely that the routing on your machine is confused if you are connected to both "sides" of the fonera Aug 15 01:37:57 better this way perhaps Aug 15 01:37:58 at the same time Aug 15 01:38:01 yes Aug 15 01:38:09 i think that is what was happening Aug 15 01:38:33 so now i'me taken the wifi part out of the question Aug 15 01:38:43 the pc doesn't connect straight to the fon now Aug 15 01:38:51 it is connected to the isp router Aug 15 01:39:00 so is fon Aug 15 01:40:23 i got a remote terminal connection open to a computer in another nation Aug 15 01:41:58 i can connect to my router remotely and locally Aug 15 01:42:24 remotely i use my internet ip Aug 15 01:42:44 using port 80 ? Aug 15 01:43:00 for the isp router ui Aug 15 01:43:10 i'm using port 8080 Aug 15 01:43:30 ok Aug 15 01:43:31 it shouldn't conflict right? Aug 15 01:43:58 as long as your redirect a different port to the fonera that 8080 you use to access the isp router, it shouldn't conflict Aug 15 01:43:59 so right now i can't access the fon in anyway Aug 15 01:44:19 supposely i shoud be able to using the assigned ip from the isp router locally Aug 15 01:44:20 right Aug 15 01:44:42 say for instance my local pc has an assigned ip 192.168.0.10 Aug 15 01:44:48 and the fonera 192.168.0.11 Aug 15 01:45:37 if i try to access 192.168.0.11 by opeing windows explorer it shows a login screen Aug 15 01:45:38 I remeber that the fon firmware checks the password strength and only opens ssh on wan if it's longer than 8 chars, has numbers, small and big letters Aug 15 01:45:49 not sure whether the same applies to web ui access via wan Aug 15 01:46:13 as for the login pass Aug 15 01:46:15 what is it? Aug 15 01:46:24 is it the fon sn? Aug 15 01:46:31 like the wep key? Aug 15 01:46:43 no the local password you use to access the dahsboard Aug 15 01:46:47 the admin pwd Aug 15 01:46:54 and user? Aug 15 01:46:58 "fonero" right? Aug 15 01:47:02 or blank Aug 15 01:47:14 fonero I think Aug 15 01:48:55 in windows explorer i can't login with fonero and pass admin but that could be because the fileservr is perhaps disabled Aug 15 01:49:20 anyway in the last run i set the firewall in fon to allow all access Aug 15 01:49:54 yes but the firmware overrides that for ssh at least if the password is too weak Aug 15 01:50:07 i see Aug 15 01:50:17 so I'm unsure whether the same happens for the ui Aug 15 01:50:17 going to change the pass then Aug 15 01:56:47 ok Aug 15 01:56:51 this is getting better Aug 15 01:57:00 i was able to connect by ftp Aug 15 01:57:11 ias you told me i switched my pass Aug 15 01:59:43 the windwos share is the only one that doesnt let me login Aug 15 02:02:18 hmm no idea about the windows share, sorry Aug 15 02:02:24 oh too latwe Aug 15 02:04:30 ok just tested and my issue is clearly tha i can't hook to the fon using the assigned ip from the isp router **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Aug 15 02:59:59 2009