**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Aug 18 02:59:56 2009
Aug 18 06:38:21 <Comet_> good day
Aug 18 06:39:05 <Comet_> anyone here?
Aug 18 07:26:09 <Comet_> hell?
Aug 18 08:07:01 <pablo_bz_> be sure i'll find three hours in my holidays to write your example. be sure there is already enough code to understand it in the lua bindgins for audiod and on audiod itself, they use libchillout.so
Aug 18 08:07:56 <pablo_bz_> oh, great wrong channel, great shitty connection
Aug 18 08:09:04 <Decodecoding> Good morning. Anyone from Fon in the room?
Aug 18 08:11:00 <pablo_bz_> nick pablo_bz is stuck, great
Aug 18 08:11:42 <pablo_bz_>  
Aug 18 08:11:54 <Decodecoding> Pablo, can you tell to who is in charge of the web that m.fon.com does not respond?
Aug 18 08:12:26 <Decodecoding> That's makes login from a mobile evice impossible.
Aug 18 08:13:01 <Decodecoding> Error 404
Aug 18 08:13:01 <Decodecoding> mobile_page_not_found
Aug 18 08:13:13 <Decodecoding> :-(
Aug 18 08:15:51 <Comet_> anyone using samba?
Aug 18 08:15:59 <Comet_> in the fonera around here
Aug 18 08:16:16 <Decodecoding> It isn't working for me now in RC5
Aug 18 08:16:29 <Comet_> what happens to you?
Aug 18 08:16:41 <Comet_> do you get a user/pass screen?
Aug 18 08:16:46 <Decodecoding> no
Aug 18 08:17:04 <Decodecoding> And I don't see fonera in the network neighborhood (Windows Vista)
Aug 18 08:17:40 <Decodecoding> This is already reported to the team so I guess it'll be solved in next release
Aug 18 08:18:03 <Comet_> do you have a direct cable from the fonera to the pc?
Aug 18 08:18:07 <Decodecoding> yes
Aug 18 08:18:19 <Decodecoding> to the Lan interface
Aug 18 08:18:38 <Decodecoding> Do you get a different result?
Aug 18 08:18:42 <Comet_> have you tried \\fonera or \\192.168.1.10
Aug 18 08:18:53 <Decodecoding> Yes, but no success...
Aug 18 08:19:25 <Comet_> well my setup is a bit different
Aug 18 08:19:41 <Comet_> i did have it connected directly as you and didn't have any problems
Aug 18 08:19:56 <Decodecoding> What OS do you use?
Aug 18 08:20:29 <Comet_> right now i have all lan cables hooked to the isp router..don't use the fonera lan port to hook my pc
Aug 18 08:20:33 <Comet_> vista
Aug 18 08:20:49 <Comet_> oh by the way
Aug 18 08:20:58 <Comet_> i remember something
Aug 18 08:21:11 <Comet_> if you have both wireless and lan connected it conflicts
Aug 18 08:21:33 <Decodecoding> no, I have wifi turned off
Aug 18 08:21:43 <Decodecoding> anyway, let me do some more testing
Aug 18 08:21:45 <Comet_> then yeah it should
Aug 18 08:21:57 <Comet_> another thing
Aug 18 08:21:57 <Comet_> have you run secopl?
Aug 18 08:22:02 <Decodecoding> then i'll report again
Aug 18 08:22:08 <Decodecoding> What is that?
Aug 18 08:22:18 <Comet_> what vista you're running
Aug 18 08:22:18 <Comet_> ?
Aug 18 08:22:21 <Comet_> vista home?
Aug 18 08:22:28 <Decodecoding> Home premium
Aug 18 08:22:31 <Decodecoding> ah
Aug 18 08:22:37 <Decodecoding> you mean secpol.msc
Aug 18 08:22:48 <Decodecoding> I don't have it. Had to tweak the registry
Aug 18 08:23:15 <Decodecoding> In RC4 samba was running perfect
Aug 18 08:23:24 <Comet_> ok its a bug for sure
Aug 18 08:23:31 <Comet_> in my case over here
Aug 18 08:23:44 <Decodecoding> I guess it's an easy thing to fix. Nothing to worry about
Aug 18 08:24:06 <Comet_> the issue is that i can't pass network share login
Aug 18 08:24:13 <Comet_> i use the user:fonero
Aug 18 08:24:20 <Comet_> and the pass i defined
Aug 18 08:24:22 <Comet_> nothing
Aug 18 08:24:42 <Decodecoding> did you change something with secpol.msc
Aug 18 08:24:44 <Comet_> i'm accessing from the internet with dyndns
Aug 18 08:25:31 <Comet_> in my windows vista ultimate yes
Aug 18 08:26:04 <Comet_> in my case the problem may be port related
Aug 18 08:26:23 <Comet_> i think i have all samba related ports being forwarded correctly to the fonera
Aug 18 08:26:33 <Comet_> and in my office pc i do get a login screen
Aug 18 08:26:39 <Comet_> but can't pass that
Aug 18 08:39:37 <Decodecoding> bbl
Aug 18 09:28:07 <Comet_> anyone around?
Aug 18 10:24:06 <Danicasti> Buongiorno!
Aug 18 12:13:11 <[DrAg]> I have a quick question, i'm running RC5 at the moment. I have trouble connecting SSH over WAN.
Aug 18 12:14:26 <xMff> have you set a strong password?
Aug 18 12:14:31 <[DrAg]> After opening settings -> firewall -> applications i cant connect to ssh, by adding port 22 to portforwarding i am only 15 minutes able to connect, afterwards the port gets closed.
Aug 18 12:14:54 <[DrAg]> No not that strong at the moment.
Aug 18 12:16:36 <xMff> it needs to be longer than 8 chars and contains digits iirc, otherwise the firmware will refuse to open ssh on wan
Aug 18 12:17:59 <[DrAg]> Oké thanks i'll give it a try.
Aug 18 12:30:00 <iurgi> :)
Aug 18 12:30:11 <iurgi> thanks xMff
Aug 18 12:30:38 <xMff> iurgi: ypu should really add a notification for that somewhere :)
Aug 18 12:30:54 <iurgi> yes...
Aug 18 12:30:57 <iurgi> there actually is
Aug 18 12:31:04 <iurgi> but seems not to be the right place
Aug 18 12:31:19 <iurgi> it's on the password selection screen on the wizard
Aug 18 12:31:27 <iurgi> but seems like people dosn't read that
Aug 18 12:31:28 <iurgi> XD
Aug 18 12:32:00 <xMff> well, once I set a password I tend to never look there again
Aug 18 12:32:38 <Decodecoding> after a successful flash process, there's too much excitement to read a boring warning banner :-d
Aug 18 12:33:28 <iurgi> yeah
Aug 18 12:33:28 <iurgi> haha
Aug 18 12:35:11 <xMff> iurgi: maybe add the same next to the open ssh on wan checkbox
Aug 18 12:35:57 <iurgi> xMff: yes, sounds like the place
Aug 18 12:36:23 <[DrAg]> Or maybe at the box where you set your password for the router... (settings -> password)
Aug 18 13:07:12 <Decodecoding> Can anybody access http://m.fon.com  ?
Aug 18 13:12:26 <iurgi> no
Aug 18 13:12:32 <iurgi> well, yes
Aug 18 13:12:40 <iurgi> but that is a captive portal
Aug 18 13:12:46 <iurgi> you need to be redirected there
Aug 18 13:12:50 <iurgi> when using android or similar
Aug 18 13:13:04 <Decodecoding> Let me try from andriod...
Aug 18 13:15:04 <iurgi> but it needs to be connected to FON_FREE_INTERNET
Aug 18 13:15:11 <Decodecoding> ok, is working now. Sorry
Aug 18 13:15:12 <iurgi> not directly browsing to m.fon.com
Aug 18 13:15:17 <iurgi> :)
Aug 18 13:15:50 <Decodecoding> The thing is yesterday I got an error from android but It must have been a temporary problem and didn't check again fron the phoe
Aug 18 13:16:56 <Decodecoding> I'm loving andriod and how it deals with fon spots. It is good the browser remembers your fon credentials so no typing needed everytime you connect to a fon spot
Aug 18 13:19:30 <Decodecoding> I'm looking forward to the android donut update
Aug 18 13:21:12 <iurgi> me too
Aug 18 13:27:12 <Decodecoding> And the transmision app rocks!
Aug 18 13:28:27 <iurgi> yes!!!
Aug 18 13:28:31 <iurgi> it's la hostia
Aug 18 13:28:32 <iurgi> hahaha
Aug 18 13:28:43 <Decodecoding> he he
Aug 18 13:28:43 <iurgi> you can sent torrents to your fonera from anywhere in the world!!!
Aug 18 13:28:49 <iurgi> and have them downloaded when you're home
Aug 18 13:28:49 <iurgi> :)
Aug 18 13:29:08 <Decodecoding> sure, I did that last weekend
Aug 18 13:29:21 <iurgi> :)
Aug 18 13:29:24 <iurgi> did it work?
Aug 18 13:29:53 <Decodecoding> Yes, i was in BCN addind some .iso torrent
Aug 18 13:31:37 <Decodecoding> and don't miss the ssh console app
Aug 18 13:33:22 <iurgi> is it good?
Aug 18 13:34:16 <Decodecoding> It works. Only thing is HTC Magic is not  designed for typing... at least accurate typing
Aug 18 13:36:11 <iurgi> yeah
Aug 18 14:58:02 <Comet_> hi everyone
Aug 18 14:58:21 <Comet_> guys got a quick question if anyone can help...
Aug 18 14:58:32 <Decodecoding> shoot
Aug 18 14:58:53 <Comet_> i just switched to dev in fonera ..i'm in remote terminal to a computer local to the fonera..
Aug 18 14:59:11 <Decodecoding> aha
Aug 18 14:59:13 <Comet_> ive got dyndns configure to get to the fonera
Aug 18 14:59:48 <Comet_> i can get to the fonera hard drive
Aug 18 14:59:55 <Comet_> \\192.168.0.11\
Aug 18 14:59:57 <Comet_> no problem
Aug 18 15:00:28 <Comet_> what im trying to do now is getting to the hard drive remotely by using my dyndns
Aug 18 15:00:34 <Comet_> that is possible right?
Aug 18 15:00:39 <iurgi> you cant
Aug 18 15:00:52 <iurgi> samba will not work on internet, imo
Aug 18 15:00:54 <Comet_> i need to be in a virtual lan right?
Aug 18 15:01:01 <iurgi> it's always firewalled by ISPs
Aug 18 15:01:02 <Comet_> tunneling
Aug 18 15:01:07 <iurgi> yes, tunneling
Aug 18 15:01:12 <iurgi> that will come in the future
Aug 18 15:01:13 <iurgi> ;)
Aug 18 15:01:14 <Decodecoding> I guess that's why vpn is being developed, right?
Aug 18 15:01:16 <Comet_> ok so i setup putty correct?
Aug 18 15:01:40 <iurgi> no, not even that way, I don't thin the fonera supports scp
Aug 18 15:01:47 <iurgi> but maybe... give it a try
Aug 18 15:01:50 <iurgi> but you can use ftp
Aug 18 15:02:10 <Comet_> i saw an article on how to connect to fonera with putty
Aug 18 15:02:30 <Decodecoding> Can you share link?
Aug 18 15:03:04 <Comet_> yes just a second
Aug 18 15:03:49 <xMff> iurgi: the openwrt package "openssh-sftp-server" is just a few kilobytes and provides sftp support
Aug 18 15:04:20 <xMff> scp works always
Aug 18 15:05:46 <iurgi> well, if scp works, no need for sftp
Aug 18 15:05:53 <iurgi> or is there a big performance difference?
Aug 18 15:05:59 <iurgi> hmmm
Aug 18 15:06:10 <iurgi> I don't think it will be important on the f2 and from wan
Aug 18 15:06:44 <xMff> iurgi: sftp is useful if one uses Linux or OSX because you can mount the fonera's file system then
Aug 18 15:06:56 <iurgi> ah
Aug 18 15:07:07 <xMff> with sshfs
Aug 18 15:07:09 <iurgi> well, i do that over samab
Aug 18 15:07:13 <iurgi> hmmm
Aug 18 15:07:19 <iurgi> can't you do that with scp too?
Aug 18 15:07:22 <xMff> nope
Aug 18 15:07:32 <iurgi> ok
Aug 18 15:13:04 <Comet_> sorry for taking so long
Aug 18 15:13:11 <Comet_> here is the article i was refering to
Aug 18 15:13:12 <Comet_> http://translate.google.com/translate?prev=hp&hl=en&js=y&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwiki.fon.com%2Fwiki%2FVPN%2Fde&sl=de&tl=en&history_state0=
Aug 18 15:13:22 <Comet_> it was on the fon wiki german site
Aug 18 15:14:26 <Comet_> my fonera firmware is the RC6
Aug 18 15:14:47 <Decodecoding> RC6!! I want that too!
Aug 18 15:15:03 <iurgi> Decodecoding: svn
Aug 18 15:15:24 <Decodecoding> Grrr, I wish I knew how to....
Aug 18 15:15:42 <iurgi> make
Aug 18 15:15:44 <iurgi> XD
Aug 18 15:15:49 <iurgi> do you have a linux machine?
Aug 18 15:15:53 <Decodecoding> :-d
Aug 18 15:16:06 <Decodecoding> Not now
Aug 18 15:16:18 <Decodecoding> just a server with no screen , muhahahaha
Aug 18 15:16:19 <iurgi> ok, then you can't
Aug 18 15:16:23 <iurgi> good
Aug 18 15:16:24 <iurgi> enough
Aug 18 15:16:27 <iurgi> just connect using ssh
Aug 18 15:16:36 <Decodecoding> yeah, ill try
Aug 18 15:16:42 <iurgi> svn co http://svn.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/trunk
Aug 18 15:16:48 <iurgi> ./install.sh
Aug 18 15:16:52 <iurgi> cd openwrt
Aug 18 15:16:53 <iurgi> make
Aug 18 15:16:54 <iurgi> haha
Aug 18 15:16:55 <iurgi> easy
Aug 18 15:17:09 <Decodecoding> Debian is ok for this purposes?
Aug 18 15:17:59 <Comet_> lorl sorry
Aug 18 15:18:03 <Comet_> RC5
Aug 18 15:19:03 <Comet_> any way to make a tunnel using fons RC5 ?
Aug 18 15:20:59 <Decodecoding> Iurgi, do I need any specific package to do so?
Aug 18 15:21:35 <Decodecoding> My debian machine only has samba and ftp functions
Aug 18 15:22:36 <xMff> Decodecoding: apt-get install zlib1g-dev build-essential gawk bison
Aug 18 15:22:47 <Decodecoding> allright
Aug 18 15:23:50 <Decodecoding> Shit, I'll have to change my rediris repositories for another more reliable ones...
Aug 18 15:24:16 <Decodecoding> They always stall
Aug 18 15:28:20 <Decodecoding> ftp.rediris.es
Aug 18 15:28:23 <Decodecoding> what a crap
Aug 18 15:38:00 <Comet_> so you guys no any software plugin whatever that can make me have a windows network share of the fonera hard drive remotely
Aug 18 15:38:00 <Comet_> ?
Aug 18 15:38:20 <Decodecoding> Must wait for the vpn plugin
Aug 18 15:38:20 <xMff> Comet_: there is an openvpn plugin now
Aug 18 15:38:29 <xMff> *in preparation
Aug 18 15:38:44 <Decodecoding> I'm looking forward to it too
Aug 18 15:39:04 <Comet_> openvpn...works with the fonera firmware ? no need to flash with other firmwares to access putty or whatever?
Aug 18 15:39:44 <Decodecoding> When it's ready I'll work on fon firmware, just like all the other stuff, I guess
Aug 18 15:40:33 <Comet_> i just saw a link about neorouter
Aug 18 15:40:38 <Comet_> you guys know this ?
Aug 18 15:41:40 <xMff> yes, they doing a lot of spam^H advertising
Aug 18 15:42:17 <Comet_> does it work ?
Aug 18 15:42:20 <xMff> personally I don't trust closed source vpn solutions, but on the other hand they make sure their stuff works well, so it's propably easier to use
Aug 18 15:42:26 <Comet_> with the fonera latest firmware
Aug 18 15:42:45 <xMff> think so
Aug 18 16:15:29 <Decodecoding> I'm building and imege
Aug 18 16:15:41 <Decodecoding> Revision 1223 I think
Aug 18 16:18:52 <Decodecoding> Make V=99  ¿How long can this take?
Aug 18 16:20:30 <xMff> Decodecoding: depending on the machine speed,1-2hours typically
Aug 18 16:20:41 <Decodecoding> shit!!!
Aug 18 16:21:15 <Decodecoding> I'm glad I'm doing it on a server I can access remotely...
Aug 18 16:21:25 <xMff> do it inside a screen session
Aug 18 16:21:36 <xMff> otherwise the build stops once you disconnect
Aug 18 16:21:40 <Decodecoding> crap
Aug 18 16:21:56 <xMff> no worries, you can just interrupt it with ctrl-c
Aug 18 16:21:59 <Decodecoding> no problem anyway
Aug 18 16:22:05 <xMff> it will pick the stuff already compiled on the next run
Aug 18 16:22:52 <Decodecoding> Now I start to appreciate developer's work ..  :-d A lot of patience is required...
Aug 18 16:23:14 <xMff> ;)
Aug 18 16:23:36 <xMff> http://xkcd.com/303/
Aug 18 16:24:04 <Decodecoding> muahahahaha
Aug 18 16:24:12 <Decodecoding> It nails it
Aug 18 16:25:51 <Decodecoding> What file or wahtever should I expect to get when the process is finished?
Aug 18 16:26:10 <Decodecoding> Dummie questions...
Aug 18 16:26:16 <xMff> there's a subdirectory "bin"
Aug 18 16:26:25 <xMff> it should contain various image files
Aug 18 16:26:35 <xMff> once the build is complete
Aug 18 16:29:43 <Comet__> looks like ill have to wait for that vpn support ... what do you guys use to access the fonera hard drive anywhere?
Aug 18 16:30:01 <Decodecoding> FTP
Aug 18 16:30:03 <Comet__> as if you were phsically there
Aug 18 16:30:05 <Comet__> ftp
Aug 18 16:30:05 <Comet__> ok
Aug 18 16:30:12 <Decodecoding> and ssh for other stuff
Aug 18 16:30:38 <Comet__> thing is one of the limitations is that if you try to send a file to the facebook folder using ftp
Aug 18 16:30:42 <Comet__> it doesnt get uploaded
Aug 18 16:30:56 <Comet__> only if you sned the file with windows share
Aug 18 16:31:00 <Decodecoding> I didn't test thar
Aug 18 16:31:22 <Comet__> the fonera doesnt detect a new file if you send it with ftp
Aug 18 16:31:37 <Decodecoding> Interesting
Aug 18 16:32:09 <Comet__> what im trying to do is somekind of compromise now.
Aug 18 16:32:29 <Comet__> im installing hamachi in both pcs
Aug 18 16:32:57 <Comet__> if they are connected i could hook to the pc in the fonera network
Aug 18 16:33:24 <Comet__> but still i can't access the fonera hard drive cause it is a network share
Aug 18 16:33:36 <Comet__> i can't double share a network share
Aug 18 17:51:11 <Cometer> anyone ever tested the wake on lan plugin?
Aug 18 19:19:11 <yanu> i am having problems with debian unstable and ltsp, pxe-boot works fine, but than it waits ... i think after de nfs ....
Aug 18 19:19:41 <yanu> i also see this in the logs : NFSD: starting 90-second grace period
Aug 18 19:20:04 <xMff> -EWIN ?
Aug 18 19:20:20 <yanu> sory, wrong channel ;)
Aug 18 19:20:25 <xMff> :)
Aug 18 19:21:01 <yanu> but , if you know an answer, .... hehe
Aug 18 20:10:01 <xMff> hna glaub ich
Aug 18 21:29:24 <Decodecoding> my oh my, now samba works...
Aug 18 21:30:04 <xMff> with self compiled firmware?
Aug 18 21:30:13 <Decodecoding> no, still RC5
Aug 18 21:30:39 <Decodecoding> I left my office computer and server compiling. Tomorrow I'll check what happened
Aug 18 21:31:15 <Decodecoding> I testted accessing samba from \\192.168.10.1 and now I see USB drives connected
Aug 18 21:31:41 <Decodecoding> previously It had not worked, maybe due to my lack of patience
Aug 18 21:33:41 <Decodecoding> I guess the fact of having torrent working full speed must have some negative effects on overall performance
Aug 18 21:33:58 <xMff> hehe
Aug 18 21:34:05 <Decodecoding> just a matter of hardware capacity
Aug 18 21:36:42 <Decodecoding> tomorrow I'll have to guess how to flash my fonera with the file I get from compiling. Any guideline?
Aug 18 21:37:37 <xMff> hmm I suppose the fon wiki explains how to flash the image with redboot
Aug 18 21:38:21 <Decodecoding> I know the redboot process. It's my favourite one. So, I'll get an image ready to flash via redboot?
Aug 18 21:39:30 <Decodecoding> Since the fonera 2.0 I'll use for this test is part of the shipment with redboot disabled, I guess I'll have to use the serial cable
Aug 18 21:41:14 <xMff> ah
Aug 18 21:41:16 <xMff> yes
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