**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Sep 22 02:59:57 2009 Sep 22 06:44:51 Buongiorno! Sep 22 07:29:36 xMff: I precompiled it Sep 22 07:29:47 Using the luac that was compiled with -O1 Sep 22 07:35:25 Presumably even with -O1 luac is miscompiled, and in turn miscompiles the lua code Sep 22 07:35:44 Or something else went wrong, I'm not entirely sure Sep 22 07:41:45 But if luac was faulty, that would probably also explain why SSH didn't come up (since that is handled by some lua script as well, right?) Sep 22 07:43:41 Or actually, from the development wiki page I learn that selecting developer mode in menuconfig doesn't work? That I have to uncomment some option in some config file (config/registered) as well? Why is that? Sep 22 07:43:54 Also, I don't have that config file :-) Sep 22 07:58:45 But that would explain why SSH didn't work Sep 22 07:59:04 Still doesn't explain why my failsafe image won't work, unless the stock fonera's don't have a valid failsafe image? Sep 22 08:00:09 Is there any particular reason content is split between the fon wiki and the fon trac wiki? I'm seeing some duplicate content and content that would be better placed elsewhere, but this fragmentation doesn't seem to serve any purpose... Sep 22 08:15:16 blathijs: yes, you need to uncomment a line in the buildroot to enable the developer mode Sep 22 08:15:41 iurgi: Why? Sep 22 08:24:41 blathijs: hmmm Sep 22 08:24:45 it works like that Sep 22 08:24:46 hehe Sep 22 08:24:57 well, it's basically because it's a configuration option Sep 22 08:25:06 that file exists on both normal and developer mode Sep 22 08:25:23 and it doesn't make much sense to add a rule to the Makefile specifically for that Sep 22 08:25:38 it's a small change that anyone able to compile the buildroot should be able to do Sep 22 08:33:23 iurgi: Yeah, but I'm not so sure if it's documented in the right place Sep 22 08:33:51 iurgi: Also, if the enduser / developer option in menuconfig doesn't work, why is it there? I'd remove it to prevent confusion Sep 22 08:40:15 yes, I didn't know it was there Sep 22 08:40:26 but indeed, if it doesn't work it should be removed Sep 22 08:40:41 (I'm talking about flipper, btw, haven't looked at trunk) Sep 22 08:41:26 iurgi: Any suggestions on regaining access to my fonera? I'd try the network TFTP/telnet redboot crap, but the development page suggests that that does not work on a 2202 Sep 22 08:41:38 Or is it just the "flash tool" that doesn't work on a (non-beta) 2202? Sep 22 08:47:12 blathijs: redboot is not working on certain FON2202 units Sep 22 08:47:21 because of a misunderstanding with the manufacturer :( Sep 22 08:47:27 I am not sure if yours is one of those Sep 22 08:47:37 if it doesn't work, the best is to enable it Sep 22 08:47:48 It's included, but disabled by accident? Sep 22 08:47:55 How to enable it? Serial port? Sep 22 08:48:07 there is an explanation (in italian, but not difficult to understand) on how to do it Sep 22 08:48:11 no need for serial Sep 22 08:48:16 Where is it? Sep 22 08:48:19 I haven't tried it myself Sep 22 08:48:24 you could brick your fonera Sep 22 08:48:29 Yoy :-) Sep 22 08:48:31 so it's at your own risk Sep 22 08:48:38 if you want to be safe... get a serial Sep 22 08:48:42 let me find it for you Sep 22 08:49:16 The development wiki page says that redboot doesn't work with units sold after jan 2009, which would include my fonera Sep 22 08:49:25 or is redboot enabled again on newer units? Sep 22 08:51:38 iurgi: Is there any reason the failsafe image won't work for me? Are 2202's also shipped with a missing or broken failsafe image? Sep 22 08:53:43 hmmm Sep 22 08:53:44 no Sep 22 08:53:49 failsafe should work fine Sep 22 08:54:19 Failsafe is just a normal image with some extra software removed, I'd expect? Sep 22 08:54:25 E.g., it should have a normal dashboard? Sep 22 08:54:31 no Sep 22 08:54:38 failsafe has not even luci Sep 22 08:54:52 But it has ssh? Sep 22 08:54:54 it's just a kernel + busybox + http + upgrade_system Sep 22 08:54:55 no Sep 22 08:54:56 no ssh Sep 22 08:55:04 only http Sep 22 08:55:05 imo Sep 22 08:55:14 maybe telnet, I can't remember, but I don't think so Sep 22 08:55:18 I (think I) booted the failsafe image yesterday Sep 22 08:55:21 on failsafe you need to connect to 192.168.1.1 Sep 22 08:55:26 how did you do it? Sep 22 08:55:43 press the reset button, plug in power, hold it for 20s Sep 22 08:56:26 THis resulted in the LAN port going in bridge mode with the WAN port, and it got me an unconfigured (e.g., serial number as PSK again) MyPlace WLAN network (and no FON_ network) Sep 22 08:56:57 On MyPlace I got a normal 192.168.10.x address, but I don't think it had any actual internet connectivitiy Sep 22 08:57:23 But from your comments, it seems that I might not have booted the failsafe image, then Sep 22 08:57:32 that's incorrect Sep 22 08:57:42 failsafe has no myplace signal Sep 22 08:57:48 Right Sep 22 08:57:59 Does pressing the reset button normall just erase configuration? Sep 22 08:58:03 it has an open but without connectivity signal that says: FON_ATTENTION_PLEASE_CONNECT Sep 22 08:58:06 or something like that Sep 22 08:58:07 yes Sep 22 08:58:15 That would explain why I got MyPlace instead of my own SSID Sep 22 08:58:18 it only resets the configuration Sep 22 08:58:34 to go to failsafe you need to turn on the unit while pressing the reset button Sep 22 08:58:39 It doesn't explain why the LAN port got into bridge mode, since that wasn't the case before IIRC Sep 22 08:58:53 iurgi: That's exactly what I did Sep 22 08:58:57 But I'll try that again, then Sep 22 08:59:05 well Sep 22 08:59:11 maybe 20secs was too long Sep 22 08:59:12 ;) Sep 22 08:59:15 try with 5secs Sep 22 08:59:24 The wiki said 15, so I rounded up :-) Sep 22 08:59:28 maybe failsafe booted and you rebooted Sep 22 08:59:29 hehe Sep 22 08:59:35 15 is too much but might be safe Sep 22 09:02:02 Ah, that seems to have worked Sep 22 09:11:29 good Sep 22 09:11:30 :) Sep 22 09:12:30 What's the login for the failsafe image? Sep 22 09:12:47 admin/admin doesn't seem to work on the ATTENTION_* network Sep 22 09:13:15 I'd try the network port, but my crosslink cable seems to have gone missing since yesterday evening... Sep 22 09:14:49 I suspect my cats of hiding it, but they won't tell me where :-) Sep 22 09:14:56 the login is root Sep 22 09:15:00 password is the serial Sep 22 09:15:13 the ATTENTION network shuold have no IP Sep 22 09:15:19 you need to use cable, imo Sep 22 09:16:15 The ATTENTION network got me a DHCP lease Sep 22 09:17:07 Is the network port autosensing? Or should I really get a crosslink cable? Sep 22 09:17:31 Hm, I could probably plug it into my normal network, since that's the same range (and .1 is not taken) Sep 22 09:17:44 it's autosensing imo Sep 22 09:18:44 Ah, plugging it into my normal network worked as well, with the advantage of having internet and a fon connection at the same time :-) Sep 22 09:19:03 fon connection? Sep 22 09:19:07 failsafe has no fon connection Sep 22 09:19:08 XD Sep 22 09:19:11 connection to the fonera, I mean Sep 22 09:19:42 So I can tell you that I get a nice simple HTML page with a firmware upload interface now :-) Sep 22 09:20:17 And I can download the official firmware now without having to switch network plugs Sep 22 09:20:29 ok Sep 22 09:20:35 :) Sep 22 09:20:56 want to test a new firmware Sep 22 09:21:00 ? Sep 22 09:21:54 I'm looking to build pulseaudio packages Sep 22 09:22:15 what for? Sep 22 09:22:24 To stream audio to my fonera Sep 22 09:22:26 we already have an audio daemon Sep 22 09:22:33 audiocli? Sep 22 09:22:38 have yuo tried our audio application Sep 22 09:22:54 yes, although I'm not sure it's named like that anymore Sep 22 09:23:28 I'd like to play stuff on my laptop, and get the output on my fonera. It is way more flexible that way Sep 22 09:24:15 Hm, the failsafe page says the login is admin, not root Sep 22 09:24:30 I guess both work? Sep 22 09:24:39 hmmm Sep 22 09:24:41 maybe admin Sep 22 09:24:43 not sure Sep 22 09:24:45 root worked for me Sep 22 09:24:49 I think the username is ignored Sep 22 09:24:50 lol Sep 22 09:25:06 Heh, that might just be the case Sep 22 09:25:19 I'll check that the next time I screw up :-) Sep 22 09:26:00 The failsafe page recommends reflashing over the wireless interface Sep 22 09:26:12 hehe Sep 22 09:26:19 ?!! Sep 22 09:26:23 does it????????? Sep 22 09:26:28 wtf! Sep 22 09:26:30 it shouldn't Sep 22 09:26:35 I mean, there's no difference Sep 22 09:26:53 but that doesn't mean it should *recommend* doing it over wifi... Sep 22 09:27:04 Connect to the WiFi signal FON_ATTENTION_PLEASE_CONNECT (make sure that you are not connect by cable at the same time). Sep 22 09:27:08 I'll change it around Sep 22 09:27:21 Hmm, I can't edit the page, it seems Sep 22 09:27:31 Is there access control on the fon wiki? Sep 22 09:27:52 no, I don't think so Sep 22 09:28:00 maybe you need to create an account, yes Sep 22 09:28:06 but it's open to do it Sep 22 09:28:47 I just registered and I'm logged in Sep 22 09:29:28 But only a "view source" button, no edit page Sep 22 09:30:13 Ah, I need to confirm my email Sep 22 09:30:25 When clicking "view source", I see The action you have requested is limited to users in the group emailconfirmed. Sep 22 09:30:38 Thoug I can still view the source, that sentence refers to editing I guess Sep 22 09:31:38 Yup, that worked Sep 22 09:31:58 ok Sep 22 09:32:07 if you need help with the wiki, inouk is the guy Sep 22 09:32:08 :) Sep 22 09:35:06 inouk: Would it make sense to add a note to the wiki registration page, saying that you need to confirm your email address before you can edit pages? Or is the note there and did I totally miss it? Sep 22 09:37:46 hi there :) Sep 22 09:38:12 blathijs, hmm i think there should be one Sep 22 09:39:27 Hi :-) Sep 22 09:39:33 blathijs, well actually you are right there is none :( Sep 22 09:39:42 hehe Sep 22 09:39:47 a flaw of mediawiki Sep 22 09:40:11 hopefully updating it will correct it Sep 22 09:40:55 i'm considering an update sometime soon Sep 22 09:44:44 We'll see then :-) Sep 22 09:53:03 inouk: You said that redboot didn't work on some of the 2202's. I guess that goes for Redboot in general, not just the Redboot Flash Tool? Sep 22 09:53:15 inouk: Since the wiki sort of suggests the latter Sep 22 09:54:56 blathijs, redboot in general Sep 22 09:55:13 Right, then I'll move that note up a line Sep 22 09:55:13 consequently the flash tool as well Sep 22 09:55:21 it is using redboot Sep 22 09:55:56 Hmm, the message "Hold on, please..." from the failsafe image, probably means it's rebooted already Sep 22 09:56:08 But the page is still "loading.." Sep 22 09:56:22 (The previous message was Verified OK) Sep 22 09:56:36 Looking at the leds, it's no longer in failsafe mode Sep 22 09:57:03 how long did you wait? Sep 22 09:57:13 i think that you have a popup when flash is completed Sep 22 09:57:18 inouk: no Sep 22 09:57:27 on failsafe no Sep 22 09:57:50 It's been flashing for over 35 minutes now ;-) Sep 22 09:58:43 Yup, it no longer ping replies, so it has rebooted Sep 22 09:59:11 ah ok maybe not in failsafe Sep 22 09:59:20 blathijs, check the LEDs Sep 22 09:59:30 what do you have ON? Sep 22 09:59:48 inouk: It's rebooted, I'm already sure Sep 22 10:00:38 hihi perfect then Sep 22 10:02:47 Hmm, is there still a help page on syntax of the wiki? Sep 22 10:03:11 When I click "Editing help", I get redirected to Help:Contents, which only talks about how to contribute Sep 22 10:04:54 Hmm, the Join_FON_Wiki_Team links to the mediawiki help pages Sep 22 10:06:30 Let's add that link to Help:Contents as well Sep 22 10:11:23 inouk: Did you find that reboot-enabling page? Sep 22 10:12:21 uh, that was aimed at iurgi Sep 22 10:12:27 All those i's :-) Sep 22 10:13:44 w00t, I have a dashboard again :-) Sep 22 10:14:39 blathijs, you have redboot disable? Sep 22 10:14:55 when did you bought your fonera? Sep 22 10:14:59 http://www.pcexpert-blog.com/2009/08/abilitare-laccesso-telnet-al-redboot-della-fonera-2-0-per-installare-firmware-diversi-dalloriginale.html Sep 22 10:15:10 inouk: Dunno, haven't tried redboot yet Sep 22 10:15:10 i did not test it yet Sep 22 10:15:17 inouk: I bought it juli 2009 Sep 22 10:15:26 So according to the wiki, that would mean it's disabled Sep 22 10:15:59 But I thought of linking the Fon wiki on Redboot to that article, or would you rather not have it so exposed? Sep 22 10:16:58 hmm received in july the IP address of redboot is indeed 0.0.0.0 Sep 22 10:17:15 but i don't know for august ones Sep 22 10:17:44 But its fixed in more recent units then? Sep 22 10:19:11 Hmm, looking at that article, why is this custom firmware required? Does it contain extra tools needed to change the redboot config? Or is changing the redboot config normally not allowed to prevent accidental bricking? Sep 22 10:21:12 no problem to add the link but not the instructions themselves as it isn't tested Sep 22 10:21:38 Yeah, I'd add a fat disclaimer :-) Sep 22 10:22:19 blathijs, i guess the custom image this guy made ship a kernel module that allow to write on redboot sectors Sep 22 10:23:25 so redboot config can be modified from shell Sep 22 10:24:06 blathijs, about redboot on august fonera i don't know, iurgi might know? Sep 22 10:26:11 it's easy to test Sep 22 10:26:34 if you have linux, configure your lan interface connected to the fonera with the 192.168.1.2 for instance Sep 22 10:26:41 ping 192.168.1.1 Sep 22 10:26:45 turn off and on the fonera Sep 22 10:27:07 if you get any replies (usually 2-3 replies a few seconds after power) then you have Redboot Sep 22 10:27:10 :) Sep 22 10:28:00 Yeah, I was going to do that next (I have a local 192.168.1.x network, so that's easy) Sep 22 10:28:23 Though right now I'm wondering why the wireless connection won't get setup Sep 22 10:28:37 according to wpa_cli, the MyPlace network advertises itself as WEP, not WPA... Sep 22 10:29:04 I've seen that before, and a reboot usually fixes it, but I'm wondering what's wrong Sep 22 10:29:17 If it's the fonera, or my slightly doggy network card :-) Sep 22 10:29:43 Let's see if I can get a connection on the computer wired port Sep 22 10:30:44 ok Sep 22 10:30:47 Ah, that worked, now I have ssh (I didn't enable ssh on the WAN port yet) Sep 22 10:30:55 Any suggestions how to find out what's wrong? Sep 22 10:33:24 what is the problem? Sep 22 10:33:50 iurgi: The MyPlace network is set to WEP instead of WPA Sep 22 10:34:14 And when I get the WEP key from iwconfig output on the fonera, I can actually connect (thoug DHCP doesn't seem to work) Sep 22 10:35:49 cat /etc/config/fon Sep 22 10:36:31 That does say wpa Sep 22 10:36:38 and hostapd seems to be running Sep 22 10:38:02 Though /var/run/hostapd doesn't exist, which should contain config files I think? Sep 22 10:38:41 wtf Sep 22 10:38:51 it says WPA and your iwconfig on the fonera shows WEP? Sep 22 10:38:56 yup Sep 22 10:38:57 that makes no sense at all Sep 22 10:38:59 nope :-) Sep 22 10:39:24 from hostapd --help, I understand that /var/run/hostapd should contain its config file(s) Sep 22 10:39:28 right after a reflash? Sep 22 10:39:51 It worked at the first boot, this is the second boot Sep 22 10:40:20 And I expect it will work again when I reboot now (I've observed this behaviour before, though never checked through SSH) Sep 22 10:43:20 that is really really really weird Sep 22 10:43:25 never seen it before Sep 22 10:46:06 iurgi: I assume hostapd is responsible for setting up the WPA mode on the wireless device Sep 22 10:47:11 iurgi: Any clue what piece of code is responsible for writing hostapd's config? Sep 22 10:47:53 Ah, probably fonstated Sep 22 10:49:47 Hmm, but that lua code is compiled. How to find ConfigWifi in my source dir... Sep 22 10:50:22 Ah, found it Sep 22 10:50:56 ok Sep 22 10:55:09 Hmm, /etc/config/wireless also contains some wireless settings Sep 22 10:55:25 that is not used imo Sep 22 10:55:32 which doesn't reference wpa, but does have a setting for psk/tkip Sep 22 10:55:36 or overridden by /etc/config/fon Sep 22 10:55:48 /sbin/wifi uses it AFAICS Sep 22 10:56:13 Though I don't completely understand how Sep 22 10:56:40 Hmm, that's not really true. /sbin/wifi talks about wifi-device and wifi-iface, and /etc/config/wireless contains that stuff Sep 22 10:56:56 But I can't really see how config_get TYPE "$CONFIG_SECTION" TYPE Sep 22 10:57:03 refers to /etc/config/wireless Sep 22 10:57:14 Oh wait, I see Sep 22 10:57:21 config_load "${cfgfile:-wireless}" Sep 22 10:57:24 There Sep 22 11:03:16 Ah, hostapd is run with a config file after all Sep 22 11:03:36 It's just that "ps" cropped its output, so I thought it was referring to a non-existent dir Sep 22 11:04:17 And the hostapd config file does list wpa=1 Sep 22 11:05:45 hmmm Sep 22 11:05:50 definitely abnormal Sep 22 11:06:00 are you sure you have WEP? Sep 22 11:06:01 lol Sep 22 11:08:04 Dunno, connecting with WEP doesn't give me an IP address (but since it is OPEN authentication, that might just mean the key is wrong I think) Sep 22 11:08:39 ahhhhh Sep 22 11:08:41 no Sep 22 11:08:49 I think it's not really wep then Sep 22 11:08:58 can you paste the iwconfig? Sep 22 11:09:07 of the private signal only Sep 22 11:10:39 ath1 IEEE 802.11g ESSID:"MyPlace" Nickname:"" Mode:Master Frequency:2.412 GHz Access Point: 00:18:84:D0:42:EE Sep 22 11:10:47 Encryption key:E7BE-B50A-4A26-D83A-774D-A332-0E3E-8C50 [2] Security mode:open Sep 22 11:11:02 I removed some irrelevant lines (and the first newline got eaten somewhere) Sep 22 11:11:28 well, it does sound like wep Sep 22 11:11:29 hehe Sep 22 11:11:31 but... Sep 22 11:11:39 the length of the key is incorrect, right? Sep 22 11:11:42 32? Sep 22 11:11:46 shuold be 26 Sep 22 11:11:50 there's something fucked up Sep 22 11:11:58 is that a fon official firmware? Sep 22 11:12:17 Yup, this is Flipper Sep 22 11:12:58 Hmm, the key does seem to long yes Sep 22 11:13:37 Can I tell /bin/sh to echo commands executed? Sep 22 11:13:58 or rather, tell busybox to do that? Sep 22 11:16:10 iurgi: Do you have a working Fonera at hand? If so, could you pastebind your /etc/config/wireless somewhere? Sep 22 11:16:28 (It does seem that all the scripts use that, I haven't seen a single reference to /etc/fonfig/fon yet) Sep 22 11:16:35 s/bind/bin/ Sep 22 11:20:39 I don't think fon.ng uses that Sep 22 11:20:44 but let me check my config Sep 22 11:21:05 config 'wifi-iface' 'private' option 'device' 'wifi0' option 'ifname' 'ath1' option 'network' 'lan' option 'mode' 'ap' Sep 22 11:21:08 What's fon.ng? Sep 22 11:21:10 option ssid' 'MyPlace' Sep 22 11:21:12 crappy pasting Sep 22 11:21:15 option 'hidden' '0' option 'encryption' 'psk/tkip' option 'key' '8201000027' Sep 22 11:21:19 uops Sep 22 11:21:22 fon-ng is hte firmware Sep 22 11:21:34 http://pastebin.com/m15314894 Sep 22 11:21:40 From reading the code, I'm pretty sure it does Sep 22 11:21:44 ok Sep 22 11:21:47 maybe Sep 22 11:21:53 Unless fon-ng is something newer than flipper Sep 22 11:22:25 Or the start of my trace (/etc/fonstated/ConfigWifi) is never used Sep 22 11:23:06 Your config is identical to mine, so that's not it... Sep 22 11:23:20 Running hostapd with -dd doesn't really give me anything useful either Sep 22 11:25:23 iurgi: How about your /var/run/hostapd-something file? Sep 22 11:25:48 hostapd does say: madwifi_configure_wpa: enable WPA=0x1 Sep 22 11:26:03 Woah, wait Sep 22 11:26:07 what? Sep 22 11:26:11 Now it works Sep 22 11:26:18 Apparently just restarting hostapd was enough :-S Sep 22 11:26:38 I didn't notice because I had changed the client settings to WEP instead of WPA Sep 22 11:29:46 Yup, it completely works again now... Sep 22 11:29:57 Hmm, but iwconfig output hasn't changed Sep 22 11:30:15 so apparently WPA looks like WEP in iwconfig Sep 22 11:34:30 weird Sep 22 11:34:34 my iwconfig is different Sep 22 11:34:42 ah no Sep 22 11:34:45 haha Sep 22 11:34:47 it's the same Sep 22 11:34:48 lol Sep 22 11:34:57 that's why the 'key' was longer than 26hex Sep 22 11:35:02 because it was not a wep key Sep 22 11:35:08 you never had wep Sep 22 11:35:43 Well, my wpa_cli did made me think so (on the client) Sep 22 11:35:56 It said: 00:18:84:d0:42:ee 2417 226 [WEP] MyPlace Sep 22 11:36:12 (And refused to connect) Sep 22 11:36:14 Whereas it now says: 00:18:84:d0:42:ee 2412 211 [WPA-PSK-TKIP] MyPlace Sep 22 11:36:34 So there was something fishy about the beacons being sent, I think Sep 22 11:37:34 Hmm, I had another question a while back, which is probably one for inouk Sep 22 11:38:21 09:59:30 < blathijs> Is there any particular reason content is split between the fon wiki and the fon trac wiki? I'm seeing some duplicate content and content that would be better placed elsewhere, but this fragmentation doesn't seem to serve any purpose... Sep 22 11:39:29 well, no particular reason Sep 22 11:39:36 fon wiki intends to be help for normal users Sep 22 11:39:49 fonosfera wiki intends to be to more skilled/developer users Sep 22 11:40:25 It is sometimes unclear when to split things on user/developer, and when to collect things about the same subject together Sep 22 11:41:02 I would say it makes sense to have a single wiki, which makes moving content, linking and preventing duplication easier Sep 22 11:43:48 In particular, I saw a note about enabling developer mode by uncommenting something on the Fon wiki, which I would have liked on the trac wiki, since then I would have been able to use my SSH connection to debug my broken dashboard, instead of having to use the failsafe image :-) Sep 22 11:44:01 Anyway, time for lunch Sep 22 11:44:10 Thanks for all the pointers so far :-) Sep 22 11:54:34 yeah, you are probably right Sep 22 11:57:32 Hmm, I still can't logon through HTTP on the WAN port Sep 22 11:58:02 https Sep 22 11:58:18 is there not a sign in the firewall saying thaT? Sep 22 11:59:13 iurgi: I enabled it in the firewall, so I can connect to the HTTP port just fine (no HTTPS, though) Sep 22 11:59:22 But it won't eat my login Sep 22 11:59:44 (I don't get the normal dashboard either, but a HTTP auth prompt with username password) Sep 22 12:01:01 brb, lunch for real Sep 22 12:02:03 it's https Sep 22 12:02:04 not http Sep 22 12:02:12 what firmware version did you install? Sep 22 12:02:13 ah Sep 22 12:02:18 you have an older version Sep 22 12:02:18 ok Sep 22 12:02:20 tlak later Sep 22 12:09:04 Yeah, it's flipper Sep 22 12:09:38 blathijs, one is for dev (written by fon staff) Sep 22 12:10:00 the other for enduser (written by fon staff and community) Sep 22 12:11:33 Hmm, so I can't even write on the trac wiki then Sep 22 12:12:02 though on FON wiki users can add things indented for dev Sep 22 12:12:27 but we are not able to check everything intended for dev added to FON wiki Sep 22 12:15:15 How would I go about changing the trac wiki? Bug you guys about it? Sep 22 12:16:47 blathijs, yes we are totally opened to suggestion :) Sep 22 12:19:29 In that case, I'd like to see the note about having to modify a config file to enable developer mode moved to the dev wiki Sep 22 12:21:45 ? Sep 22 12:22:02 if you can change this file you are already in dev mode Sep 22 12:22:21 It is now at http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Fonera_Development and I'd like to see it at http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/wiki/build Sep 22 12:22:50 inouk: When building the image, I can select "development" in menuconfig, but it doesn't work. Instead, you need to edit some config file Sep 22 12:22:57 ha you mean when building from source Sep 22 12:23:34 Also, I don't have that config file (registered) in my build, so the note should probably be changed to say you should create it if not present Sep 22 12:24:11 well i wasn't aware that selecting profile dev did not work any more Sep 22 12:24:26 is it true with the last check out? Sep 22 12:24:36 Dunno, I've only checked flipper so far Sep 22 12:25:07 And I'm not 100% sure that it didn't work, but I didn't get ssh Sep 22 12:25:21 ah ok let me try with the last check out then Sep 22 12:25:22 (on my own build) Sep 22 12:25:31 But I also thrashed my dashboard, so I couldn't tell why SSH wasn't working :-) Sep 22 12:26:00 with flipper you have to reboot twice so ssh key get generated Sep 22 12:26:49 Yeah, didn't help Sep 22 12:27:31 I've rebooted a few more times, with considerable delays in between Sep 22 12:27:40 hi there, could someone please pastebin /etc/config/network and /etc/config/wireless from a running fonera? Sep 22 12:28:44 or4n9e: fonera 1 ? Sep 22 12:29:02 what do you want to know? Sep 22 12:29:56 xMff: FYI, I managed to reflash my Fonera2 using failsafe mode :-) Sep 22 12:30:18 xMff: I need a working config with public and private AP VAPs Sep 22 12:30:33 need to adjust something like this for piranha 3.0 Sep 22 12:30:55 ah, hm no such config around here but I can help you to make one Sep 22 12:30:55 and I have troubles with ath0 vs ath1, client vs ap and so on Sep 22 12:31:29 if you have troubles with ath0 vs. ath1 you did it wrong most likely. I assume the "troubles" are with option ifname in /e/c/network ? Sep 22 12:32:07 xMff: I read at madwifi.org that one need to create an AP VAP first and then the client Sep 22 12:32:22 that would mean .... client interface needs to be ath1 Sep 22 12:32:25 BUT Sep 22 12:32:46 the openwrt scripts take care of doing it in the right order iirc Sep 22 12:32:51 if I configure openwrt as a bridge + routed client, the client interface is ath0 Sep 22 12:33:25 use "option network logical_ifname" in /e/c/wireless and do *not* reference athX in /e/c/network directly Sep 22 12:33:36 other possibility then a bridge eth0-ath0/1 would be to have eth0 for wired, ath0/1 for client mode and ath0/1 for isolated AP Sep 22 12:34:22