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Oct 20 06:56:33 <Danicasti> Buongiorno!
Oct 20 07:10:11 <alexsc> Buongiorno Danicasti
Oct 20 07:11:05 <Danicasti> ;)
Oct 20 08:53:43 <hendry> i have an odd problem with my 2.0n, asking to reconfigure the device every so often
Oct 20 08:53:57 <hendry> i think it doesn't notice that my cable modem has reset and changed its IP
Oct 20 11:52:07 <iurgi> hendry: it's possible
Oct 20 11:52:15 <iurgi> we will add it as a bug
Oct 20 11:52:24 <iurgi> sorry for the inconvenience
Oct 20 11:52:34 <iurgi> this is on dhcp, right?
Oct 20 11:53:31 <hendry> iurgi: yes
Oct 20 11:53:49 <iurgi> hendry: ok, thanks
Oct 20 11:53:58 <hendry> iurgi: i'm a techy, so i would like to know what lists i should be on and how to track this bug. because it's very painful.
Oct 20 11:54:14 <hendry> my family are locked out the Internet if I am not at home to fix it!
Oct 20 11:54:39 <iurgi> hendry: hmmm
Oct 20 11:54:51 <iurgi> www.fonosfera.org
Oct 20 11:54:55 <iurgi> there's a mailing list there
Oct 20 11:55:03 <iurgi> and the best place to get help is here
Oct 20 11:55:10 <iurgi> also the forums help
Oct 20 11:55:17 <iurgi> can you explain a bit better what IP changes?
Oct 20 11:55:31 <iurgi> I am not sure to understand the problem precisely
Oct 20 12:06:35 <hendry> iurgi: I _think_, i am not sure, the VM cable modem reconnects from time to time
Oct 20 12:06:47 <hendry> hence the fonera loses internet connection
Oct 20 12:06:59 <hendry> hence it asks for a password to re-configure the device
Oct 20 12:07:28 <hendry> it should just do some sort of dhcp refresh every 5 mins or something.
Oct 20 12:07:32 <hendry> this is my hunch.
Oct 20 12:07:45 <hendry> the other netgear router i have, which is crap
Oct 20 12:07:56 <hendry> seems to do this...
Oct 20 12:41:11 <hendry> iurgi: did I make sense?
Oct 20 12:42:02 <blathijs> hendry: What IP ranges are we talking about?
Oct 20 12:42:26 <blathijs> I assume that your cable modem does not do any NAT, but just gives out its single, external IP over DHCP?
Oct 20 12:43:26 <hendry> blathijs: yes
Oct 20 12:43:38 <iurgi> hendry: sorry, couldn't read it consciously yet
Oct 20 12:43:46 <hendry> http://walton.dabase.com/ is 82.8.191.47
Oct 20 12:43:47 <iurgi> I'm in the middle of a few big things now :(
Oct 20 12:43:50 <iurgi> I will read later on
Oct 20 12:44:06 <blathijs> Any clue if this problem also occurs without the Fonera in between? Does a normal PC connected to the cable modem directly do something different? Perhaps the cable modem disconnects the ethernet link for a while, which causes Windows to retry the entire DHCP ting?
Oct 20 12:44:59 <blathijs> hendry: I think that would be the only way the cable modem could notify the other end of the connection (e.g., the Fonera or the PC) that the address changed
Oct 20 12:45:33 <blathijs> hendry: Alternatively, it could give out DHCP leases with a low DHCP lease time, but then there would still be some outage if the address changes halfway the lease time
Oct 20 12:47:24 <hendry> the cable modem is very crap piece of hardware
Oct 20 12:47:41 <hendry> i just want the fonera+ to do dhcp requests once losing a connection
Oct 20 12:47:57 <hendry> or perhaps it loses the connection
Oct 20 12:48:03 <hendry> expecting a dhcp renew
Oct 20 12:48:06 <hendry> and it does not get one
Oct 20 12:48:19 <hendry> the cable box is very very bad
Oct 20 12:48:31 <blathijs> hendry: I'm not so sure how and when the Fonera detects that the connection is lost
Oct 20 12:48:31 <hendry> i recall now, that when connected straight to my PC
Oct 20 12:48:51 <hendry> it would not give a new IP unless it was cold rebooted.
Oct 20 12:48:57 <blathijs> hendry: It might even be that it only checks the connection when you try to login to the dashboard
Oct 20 12:49:13 <hendry> the lease might have expired and the fonera+ asks for a renewal though does not get it
Oct 20 12:49:31 <blathijs> (BTW, does this concern a Fonera+, or Fonera 2.0n?)
Oct 20 12:49:39 <hendry> Fonera 2.0n sorry
Oct 20 12:49:48 <blathijs> ok
Oct 20 12:50:24 <hendry> well there is something wrong with this logic, it would be good to know how this worked to solve the problem
Oct 20 12:50:49 <blathijs> hendry: I guess it would help to know what happens exactly. I'm not sure if the DHCP client in the Fonera logs anything, but you could try putting your Fonera in development mode, use SSH to log in and use the "logread" command to view the log
Oct 20 12:51:03 <blathijs> Perhaps that offers some insight into what is wrong exactly
Oct 20 13:11:18 <caino> hi, i have some problem with my fonera 2.0n
Oct 20 13:11:37 <blathijs> caino: Do explain
Oct 20 13:11:52 <caino> i keep losing connection randomly
Oct 20 13:12:23 <caino> i've open a ticket like ten days ago, no answer arrived yet
Oct 20 13:12:50 <caino> i tryed 2.3.0.0 and now i'm using 2.3.0.0 dev firmware
Oct 20 13:13:39 <caino> via ssh i can't read a significant log
Oct 20 13:14:12 <caino> 5 minutes ago i try logread -f but when i lost connection... i lost the ssh connection too
Oct 20 13:14:42 <caino> i think it's similar or identical to this issue : http://boards.fon.com/viewtopic.php?f=34&t=6134
Oct 20 13:14:51 <blathijs> caino: You're losing the WLAN connection?
Oct 20 13:15:00 <caino> both
Oct 20 13:15:11 <caino> can't ping the fonera or google
Oct 20 13:15:36 <iurgi> any other info you can provide?
Oct 20 13:15:38 <caino> after 10/30 seconds everything is ok
Oct 20 13:15:39 <iurgi> what is the fonera doing?
Oct 20 13:15:46 <iurgi> how often is that happening?
Oct 20 13:15:47 <iurgi> etc
Oct 20 13:16:12 <caino> the leds of wifi and wlan go off
Oct 20 13:16:33 <caino> can't ping anything
Oct 20 13:17:32 <blathijs> caino: Does it actually reboot, as that forum topic suggests?
Oct 20 13:17:32 <caino> after 10/30 seconds my browser tell me i ve a wrong configuration
Oct 20 13:18:17 <caino> it seems to reboot. i've noticed that when the fonera reboot some leds remain on
Oct 20 13:18:42 <caino> so i can imagine that it reboot, it's not a question of losgin connection... maybe
Oct 20 13:19:12 <blathijs> caino: You might want to check the uptime
Oct 20 13:19:27 <blathijs> iurgi: Does the "uptime" command work as expected on a Fonera?
Oct 20 13:19:55 <caino> the uptime resets everytime
Oct 20 13:19:59 <caino> this happens
Oct 20 13:20:19 <caino> i've this issue a dozen times per day
Oct 20 13:20:41 <blathijs> That would suggest it does actually reboot...
Oct 20 13:21:10 <blathijs> caino: The forum post suggests that it only happens when torrent traffic is active (according to my quick read)
Oct 20 13:21:26 <blathijs> caino: Can you perhaps pinpoint the traffic pattern that triggers it?
Oct 20 13:21:43 <blathijs> Perhaps disconnect the device entirely and see if it happens then
Oct 20 13:22:38 <caino> how can i pinpoint the traffica pattern?
Oct 20 13:23:26 <blathijs> caino: Start with nothing (e.g., disconnect it entirely) and build up, I think
Oct 20 13:23:35 <caino> and ... if i disconnect the device .... what should i do? i can't understand, sorry
Oct 20 13:23:56 <blathijs> caino: Leave it running for a few hours, connect it and check the uptime
Oct 20 13:24:09 <blathijs> See if it has rebooted
Oct 20 13:24:24 <caino> it's absolutely random... one day the uptime was about 19 hours
Oct 20 13:24:34 <caino> today in 2 hours i get 3 reboot
Oct 20 13:24:42 <caino> and i've changed nothing
Oct 20 13:24:51 <caino> ad i really mean nothing.
Oct 20 13:25:03 <blathijs> Perhaps you're heavily torrenting or generating other traffic now?
Oct 20 13:28:02 <caino> i'm using emule and torrent
Oct 20 13:29:31 <caino> is this problem about n# of connections?
Oct 20 13:30:55 <blathijs> Possibly, I don't know
Oct 20 13:31:04 <blathijs> But that's what you could perhaps find out
Oct 20 13:31:39 <blathijs> Try things like a single FTP connection that draws a lot of bandwidth, or a large number of connections with only a little bandwidth, etc.
Oct 20 13:32:01 <blathijs> See if there is anything specific that could be the cause
Oct 20 13:32:05 <caino> ok
Oct 20 13:32:44 <caino> anyway... is this the first you heard this kinda problem?
Oct 20 13:32:45 <blathijs> I guess the devs could try to reproduce the problem, but the more specific you can pinpoint the problem, the better the chances of reproducing and fixing are
Oct 20 13:33:15 <blathijs> For me, yes, but I'm no official Fonera dev :-)
Oct 20 13:33:25 <caino> ah ok
Oct 20 13:33:36 <caino> do u have a 2.0n?
Oct 20 13:33:41 <blathijs> I've only just ordered my 2.0n :-)
Oct 20 13:33:51 <blathijs> I got a 2.0g a few months back
Oct 20 17:25:58 <barbon> oi
Oct 20 17:26:08 <barbon> somesone has problems with name issue with fon 2.0n?
Oct 20 17:26:28 <barbon> i have created an wireless name with "Home Network"
Oct 20 17:26:35 <barbon> and appaer only "Home"
Oct 20 17:26:46 <barbon> also my other pc can't connect on it
Oct 20 17:52:33 <caino> any developer here?
Oct 20 18:12:41 * blathijs points to xMff and iurgi 
Oct 20 18:12:51 <blathijs> oh and inouk
Oct 20 18:39:18 <ivangarcia> hi guys, I installed 2.3.0.1 RC1-DEV for 2.0g
Oct 20 18:39:58 <ivangarcia> how can I get back to an older firmware?
Oct 20 18:40:43 <ivangarcia> i try to install the 2.2.6 .tar.gz trough the web firmware replacing but it doesn't replace anything
Oct 20 18:44:26 <blathijs> I think the .tar.gz's don't allow downgrading
Oct 20 18:44:42 <blathijs> not util 2.3.0, so you can't downgrade to 2.2.6 throught the webinterface
Oct 20 18:44:59 <blathijs> ivangarcia: You can use the SSH interface, with the image file instead of the .tar.gz
Oct 20 18:45:16 <blathijs> ivangarcia: I think there's decent instructions on the Firmware_Updating page (IIRC) on the wiki
Oct 20 18:45:36 <ivangarcia> yeah, thks blathijs, i was reading it too
Oct 20 19:05:49 <dasjoe> Hello. The 2.0n doesn't accept my WPA2-Passphrase, I'm quite sure it's allowed - my old router and all PCs accepted it :)
Oct 20 19:06:34 <blathijs> dasjoe: Does it make any particular complaint?
Oct 20 19:07:42 <dasjoe> Nope, the form field turns red and that's it. I'll check again in 5 minutes
Oct 20 19:08:21 <blathijs> Is this on the dashboard, or on fon.com?
Oct 20 19:08:47 <dasjoe> On the Dashboard, I haven't connected it to the internet yet
Oct 20 19:11:15 <blathijs> I'm not exactly sure what the requirements are, perhaps they changed
Oct 20 19:11:30 <blathijs> dasjoe: Perhaps you can pinpoint a specific character in your passphrase that causes the problem?
Oct 20 19:13:00 <dasjoe> I'll do that when I'm done moving some cables and stuff around
Oct 20 19:48:12 <mxcarron> hi
Oct 20 19:48:44 <mxcarron> i try to make dropbear listen on port 443
Oct 20 19:49:01 <mxcarron> i modified /etc/config/services
Oct 20 19:49:20 <mxcarron> but i still can't connect to the fonera on this port
Oct 20 19:49:34 <mxcarron> i guess a FW stops my requests
Oct 20 19:49:43 <mxcarron> but i can't find its config file
Oct 20 19:49:53 <mxcarron> someone can help?
Oct 20 19:51:33 <blathijs> mxcarron: It might be that dropbear has a seperate config file or needs a commandline option to listen on a differnt port
Oct 20 19:51:48 <blathijs> mxcarron: Perhaps the services config file is only used to configure the firewall
Oct 20 19:52:25 <blathijs> mxcarron: Doest netstat -lnp show what port dropbear is listening on?
Oct 20 19:53:42 <mxcarron> yep i should have done this first
Oct 20 19:53:58 <mxcarron> it seems that no one listen on 443
Oct 20 19:57:23 <MVXA> beep
Oct 20 19:58:18 <mxcarron> blathijs, do you know how to make dropbear listen on port 443
Oct 20 20:03:28 <blathijs> mxcarron: I guess its a commandline option
Oct 20 20:03:54 <blathijs> mxcarron: But I'm not sure what script starts dropbear, possibly something in /etc/fonstated
Oct 20 20:11:57 <mxcarron> there is a lua scritp named RestartSSH
Oct 20 20:12:40 <mxcarron> but i can't understand it, it's full of "@" "\" and stuff
Oct 20 20:13:24 <mxcarron> it might have been precompiled (i don't know if it's possible with lua)
Oct 20 20:13:42 <blathijs> Ah, yes it probably is
Oct 20 20:14:12 <mxcarron> i think i'm done for tonight
Oct 20 20:14:32 <mxcarron> i'll probably install a straight openwrt release
Oct 20 20:14:40 <blathijs> http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/browser/tags/2.3.0.0/fon/dropbear/files/etc/fonstated/RestartSSH
Oct 20 20:14:46 <mxcarron> it might be easier to configure
Oct 20 20:14:52 <mxcarron> oh!
Oct 20 20:14:53 <blathijs> Seems the port is hardcoded there
Oct 20 20:15:12 <blathijs> You could take that file, change the port and put it on your device
Oct 20 20:15:30 <blathijs> (You can replace a precompiled lua file with a non-compiled version)
Oct 20 20:15:43 <blathijs> I gues you do need to make it executable
Oct 20 20:16:03 <mxcarron> mmmm i'm gonna try this
Oct 20 20:16:03 <mxcarron> thanx
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Oct 20 22:41:45 <capiscuas> hi guys
Oct 20 22:42:58 <capiscuas> i have fon-ng 2.2.5.0 RC5 - USER version and I cannot update the firmware to
Oct 20 22:42:59 <capiscuas> 20090421_FON2202_2.2.5.0_Flipper_DEVELOPER.tar.gz
Oct 20 22:43:12 <capiscuas> cause the web upgrade doesn't work
Oct 20 22:43:17 <capiscuas> and I cannot access trought ssh
Oct 20 22:50:45 <blathijs> capiscuas: You could try enabling the dev mode throught the dashboard
Oct 20 22:51:16 <blathijs> capiscuas: Alternatively, the failsafe mode could help here (see the wiki page on it)
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