**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Oct 23 02:59:57 2009 Oct 23 06:54:39 Buongiorno! Oggi è venerdi! :) Oct 23 07:52:49 What's the throughput WAN to LAN on the new Fonera 2.0N? Oct 23 08:48:52 oi Oct 23 08:50:40 i have issue with wireless name Oct 23 08:50:43 of fon 2.0n Oct 23 08:51:01 the name is never correct Oct 23 08:51:10 also pc with xp cant connect on it Oct 23 08:51:16 Barbon_: Did you report that before? With the pound signs in it? Oct 23 08:51:26 ye i tryed Oct 23 08:51:54 if i do a wireless name without the pass Oct 23 08:52:05 the name for the pc with vista,appaer correct Oct 23 08:52:18 with xp this dont appaer Oct 23 08:52:20 o.o Oct 23 08:52:27 funky Oct 23 08:52:41 if i do the wireless name with pass, the name is messed Oct 23 08:53:02 and with xp i see the wireless network, but i cant join Oct 23 08:53:18 i tryed to reset more times the fonera Oct 23 08:53:20 same problem Oct 23 08:53:22 Barbon_: I'd nearly think there is something funny with your XP machine Oct 23 08:53:30 nope Oct 23 08:53:37 also for vista i see the name messed Oct 23 08:53:40 but i can connect Oct 23 08:53:54 so is an fon problem Oct 23 08:54:35 I don't have time to help you debug right now, though (And I don't have a 2.0n to reproduce either :-p) Oct 23 08:57:19 hi Oct 23 08:57:20 T_T Oct 23 08:57:36 you are deveplover and you dont have fon 2.0n xD Oct 23 08:58:09 Barbon_: I'm not an official developer, I just have a spare time interest in the Fonera :-) Oct 23 08:58:29 Barbon_: And I've ordered my 2.0n this week, so I should have it on monday anyway :-p Oct 23 08:58:57 oh... Oct 23 08:59:12 cool Oct 23 08:59:36 i ha vet he fonera 2n and it's great!! Oct 23 08:59:41 o_o Oct 23 08:59:43 it's really fast!! Oct 23 08:59:44 (And I've had my fair share of development on other projects, so I know how to debug problems :-p) Oct 23 08:59:50 i know that is fast Oct 23 08:59:53 but firmware suck Oct 23 08:59:55 XD Oct 23 09:00:09 no isn't true i just can't figure out why Oct 23 09:00:14 try to create an wireless network with 2 worlds Oct 23 09:00:18 someone have disable init.d Oct 23 09:00:21 :D Oct 23 09:00:36 Barbon_: "2 worlds" ? Oct 23 09:00:48 yes like "Rete Casa" Oct 23 09:01:17 mettici l'underscore :D Oct 23 09:01:21 cioè? Oct 23 09:01:28 Rete_Casa Oct 23 09:01:58 Barbon_: Ah, 2 _words_ :-) Oct 23 09:02:12 i know my english suck Oct 23 09:02:13 T_T Oct 23 09:02:18 lol Oct 23 09:03:21 iosonoio you have tryed to do it? Oct 23 09:03:25 Barbon_: But you're problem occured without spaces as well, right? Oct 23 09:03:30 s/you're/your/ Oct 23 09:03:40 what? the underscore? Oct 23 09:15:31 bathijs => if i do this network name with "Rete Casa" on vista i see only "Rete" and i can connect, on i xp i see "Rete" with strange charaters, and i cant connect, this problem appaer also if i use 1 words Oct 23 09:19:02 is an strange problem :S Oct 23 09:41:02 is a strange italian_developer :D Oct 23 09:41:18 eheh!!!! Oct 23 09:43:00 barbon_ : You have tryed a bridge function??? Oct 23 09:43:16 i dont know how to use it XD Oct 23 09:44:30 :S Oct 23 09:48:56 how to put the script on fonera 2? Oct 23 09:49:31 I have tryed, but i have a ath0.1 error Oct 23 10:25:25 iurgi when log in chat? Oct 23 14:06:28 Hi Iurgi, any news on the Ralink - Broadcom issue? Oct 23 14:07:13 I have updraded my broadcom drivers, switched of my FON_FREE_INTERNET but can't hold a stable connection Oct 23 14:07:54 My other pc (no braodcom, wifi-N) is connected without any problems Oct 23 14:17:38 voorstad: hmmmm Oct 23 14:17:42 I'm checking that now Oct 23 14:17:50 but I cannot reproduce Oct 23 14:17:56 with iphone and ipod Oct 23 14:18:01 I will try mac mini now Oct 23 14:18:54 well, in about 1h30 Oct 23 14:38:46 oi Oct 23 14:38:56 fonera 2.0n work with xp in wireless? Oct 23 14:39:02 http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Image:Connecting_to_FON_public_signal_(XP).png => seem no Oct 23 14:46:26 @Barbon: I have an XP machine with wifi-N adapter connected to the 2.0n without any problems. Oct 23 14:46:55 Using the XP wireless zero (no card specific software) Oct 23 16:35:13 Hi guys, I have a problem with date/time on my fonera and OpenVPN Oct 23 16:36:35 when I cold reboot the device, time is reset and OpenVPN says that certificates are not active Oct 23 16:37:35 can you explain me hot to set up (if possible) ntp? Oct 23 16:37:42 *how Oct 23 16:39:20 I see that ntpclient is present Oct 23 16:52:16 I have just solved with cron configured to launch ntpclient every hour Oct 23 16:54:45 hi Oct 23 16:54:50 sorry, I am too busy Oct 23 16:54:53 so that solves it? Oct 23 16:55:04 we are going to fix the ntp issue on next release, sorry Oct 23 16:57:22 ok, thanks! yes it solves Oct 23 16:57:36 I have found this on italian thread: Oct 23 16:57:50 http://boards.fon.com/viewtopic.php?f=23&p=42255 Oct 23 17:00:54 thanks Oct 23 17:37:20 hi all ! Oct 23 17:37:22 :-) Oct 23 17:39:18 I got a nice fonera 1 but as it might be updating I (stupily) unplugged the power Oct 23 17:39:40 now I only get an error Oct 23 17:40:00 what error? where do you get it? Oct 23 17:41:24 just restarting it to take the string returned as error message Oct 23 17:41:35 where? Oct 23 17:41:44 where is that error? Oct 23 17:42:01 web? ping? redboot? ssh? Oct 23 17:42:01 ;) Oct 23 17:42:16 on a web page :-) Oct 23 17:42:24 ah Oct 23 17:42:26 ok Oct 23 17:42:27 :) Oct 23 17:49:08 the console web page is said to be on 192.168.1.1, isn't it ? Oct 23 17:49:22 (on private network only) Oct 23 17:49:27 no Oct 23 17:49:31 on 192.168.10.1 Oct 23 17:49:36 if you see if on 192.168.1.1 Oct 23 17:49:40 then you DID break the fonera Oct 23 17:49:44 and need to fix it Oct 23 17:49:44 ;) Oct 23 17:49:48 allright :-) Oct 23 17:50:06 on .10.1 I got the following : "Bus error" Oct 23 17:50:12 bus error? Oct 23 17:50:13 wtf Oct 23 17:50:17 never seen that Oct 23 17:50:21 arg ! Oct 23 17:50:22 :-) Oct 23 17:50:28 bus error can mean anything Oct 23 17:50:41 faulty hardware or wrongly compiled binaries Oct 23 17:51:01 uclibc mismatch etc. Oct 23 17:51:03 but I didn't change the firmware manualy Oct 23 17:51:24 well Oct 23 17:51:30 just plugged that (stu[CENSOR]pid) box !! :-) Oct 23 17:51:31 if you broke the upgrade Oct 23 17:51:42 maybe the libraries are not completely upgraded Oct 23 17:51:47 try to turn it on Oct 23 17:51:52 for a while Oct 23 17:52:02 and then press the reset button for more than 10 secs Oct 23 17:52:20 for a while, that's more than a few hours ? Oct 23 17:52:36 no, more than 2min Oct 23 17:52:44 so everything is up Oct 23 17:53:02 ok, and the reset button, I push it while turned on ? Oct 23 17:53:55 yes Oct 23 17:53:58 for more than 10 secs Oct 23 17:54:06 that should reset to factory defaults Oct 23 17:54:09 including the libraries etc Oct 23 17:54:26 it will delete any non-permanent changes Oct 23 17:54:39 thanks ! I trying that :-) Oct 23 17:54:43 after that, it will take up to 30min to completely boot and upgrade Oct 23 17:54:51 I suggest Oct 23 17:54:57 that you try it without internet conenction Oct 23 17:55:00 to make sure it worked Oct 23 17:56:01 okay, will try that Oct 23 17:56:08 thanks a lot iurgi :-) Oct 23 17:56:25 welcome Oct 23 17:56:26 :) Oct 23 17:57:20 do you use another firmware as the standard one ? Oct 23 17:57:30 me? Oct 23 17:57:33 yep Oct 23 17:57:35 haha Oct 23 17:57:36 no Oct 23 17:57:44 I work at fon ;)ç Oct 23 17:57:50 :) Oct 23 17:57:57 but there are nice tweaks out there Oct 23 17:58:01 woow cool ! :-) Oct 23 17:58:01 depends on what you want Oct 23 17:58:07 the fon firmware is basic Oct 23 17:58:16 wifi, basic networking and fon membership Oct 23 17:58:26 if you want to do any other fancy things... Oct 23 17:58:38 try francofon for FON+few things Oct 23 17:58:49 freewlan for fon+a few more things Oct 23 17:59:16 no, Fon is enough, it's just to share internet connection here Oct 23 17:59:18 or dd-wrt for fancy 'user-friendly' things (alghough not very good, imo) Oct 23 17:59:25 and opewnrt ifyou want a real firmware Oct 23 17:59:26 ;) Oct 23 17:59:33 I got other device running openwrt Oct 23 17:59:40 ok Oct 23 17:59:56 thank for your help ! Oct 23 18:00:06 welcome Oct 23 18:00:10 :-) Oct 23 18:03:35 19:52:22 < iurgi> for more than 10 secs <-- doesn't that boot into safe mode as well? Or is that just on powerup? Oct 23 18:04:13 blathijs: hmmm Oct 23 18:04:33 well, ifyou keep it for 10secs+the time it takes to reboot and get into redboot, yes Oct 23 18:04:48 but in the worst case you powercycle and that's it Oct 23 18:04:52 true Oct 23 18:05:03 blathijs: less than 20 secs or so should be fine imo Oct 23 18:05:09 10-17 or so Oct 23 18:06:38 iurgi: what's that mean? Oct 23 18:06:39 Oct 23 18:06:14 Fonera user.warn lucid[2644]: TLS handshake failed: 192.168.1.14 Oct 23 18:06:40 ? Oct 23 18:07:03 well, you have a problem with the certificate Oct 23 18:07:12 connecting via web over wan? Oct 23 18:07:32 yes Oct 23 18:07:40 it's a problem with the date of the fonera Oct 23 18:07:40 ahhhh ok so it's the Oct 23 18:07:40 :( Oct 23 18:07:43 ssl Oct 23 18:07:43 certificatE? Oct 23 18:07:45 yes Oct 23 18:07:49 oh ok :D Oct 23 18:07:51 allright :D Oct 23 18:08:15 where i can change the ntpclient Oct 23 18:08:20 option? Oct 23 18:08:22 hmmm Oct 23 18:08:28 cause my foner is two hours Oct 23 18:08:30 there's somehitng about it in the italian boards Oct 23 18:08:31 ;) Oct 23 18:08:31 before :D Oct 23 18:08:40 on the blog? Oct 23 18:08:44 boards Oct 23 18:08:45 forums Oct 23 18:08:47 ah ok Oct 23 18:08:51 got it Oct 23 18:08:53 hi guys, Oct 23 18:08:57 hi capiscuas Oct 23 18:09:03 from catalonia? Oct 23 18:09:18 hehe, from valencia, good eye! Oct 23 18:09:22 ah Oct 23 18:09:23 ;) Oct 23 18:09:34 that was close Oct 23 18:09:49 i've got my fonera 20g-dev getting internet via-wifi Oct 23 18:09:56 ok Oct 23 18:10:14 the problem is that when the laptop tries to connect to it, cannot Oct 23 18:10:24 only when i restart the fonera, it will be able to connect 1 time or 2 Oct 23 18:10:25 via private wifi? Oct 23 18:10:30 yes Oct 23 18:10:38 the wifi-wan mode is not very stable Oct 23 18:10:40 :( Oct 23 18:10:43 hmm, is a wifi without WEP but with MAC restriction Oct 23 18:10:52 so public wifi Oct 23 18:10:52 first of all, it needs a reboot after configuring it Oct 23 18:11:12 i want to connect to my fonera trough WEP, cause fonera doesn't have MAC filter, right? Oct 23 18:11:13 I mean, your pc cannot conenct to the private signal of the fonera Oct 23 18:11:21 yeah, exactly Oct 23 18:11:39 ok Oct 23 18:11:42 it's a known bug Oct 23 18:11:49 that's why it's still on development mode :( Oct 23 18:11:54 can't find why it's unstable Oct 23 18:12:33 before u guys found the solution(thks in advance), can u tell me how to restart the private wifi dhcp so i can make an script to restart few times an hour? Oct 23 18:12:44 like a trick solution for me Oct 23 18:12:45 the dhcp? Oct 23 18:12:49 I don't think that is the problem Oct 23 18:12:55 what is then? Oct 23 18:13:10 well, the private signal is not always broadcasted Oct 23 18:13:17 dunno why Oct 23 18:13:19 :o Oct 23 18:13:29 but the signal appears on my wifi list... Oct 23 18:13:34 oh Oct 23 18:13:34 ok Oct 23 18:13:41 it's just that i cannot connect Oct 23 18:13:41 then it's a different proble Oct 23 18:13:44 m Oct 23 18:13:53 have you tried with a stati IP on your pc? Oct 23 18:14:03 hmm, nop, i haven't... Oct 23 18:14:14 try that Oct 23 18:14:17 gateway = 192.168.10.1 and dns too? Oct 23 18:14:25 if the problem is the dhcp, that should fix it Oct 23 18:14:26 yes Oct 23 18:14:38 you use windows? Oct 23 18:14:41 hello Oct 23 18:14:41 can u tell me how to restart the dhcp internally? Oct 23 18:14:44 nop, ubuntu Oct 23 18:14:48 can anyone help with a webcam problem? Oct 23 18:15:13 right now i'm connected to fonera via cable Oct 23 18:15:44 capiscuas: the dhcp server is the same for the cable or the wifi access... Oct 23 18:15:49 wdj: hmmm Oct 23 18:15:50 maybe Oct 23 18:15:57 but I dont' know much about how it works Oct 23 18:16:00 what is your problem? Oct 23 18:16:32 hmm, that's right, in that case should be some problem with the private wifi interface... Oct 23 18:16:34 I've connected a webcam, and dmesg says 'uvcvideo: Found UVC 1.00 device USB 2.0 Camera (0c45:62f1)' Oct 23 18:17:17 capiscuas: yes... :( Oct 23 18:17:48 wdj: and? Oct 23 18:17:48 And the webcam icon in the dashboard takes me to the viewer. But the view says: Failed to connect to server (denied?)' Oct 23 18:17:49 This is in the applet. Oct 23 18:17:54 iurgi, i'll try the static IP trick first Oct 23 18:18:29 iurgi: the fact it's UVC cam suggests it *should* work to me. Oct 23 18:19:05 what is the program on the fonera that streams the pictures? I can't see it running in 'ps -aux' Oct 23 18:19:31 wdj, dunno Oct 23 18:19:36 but what version do you have? Oct 23 18:20:01 newest release: 2.2.5.0 RC5 Oct 23 18:20:21 hmm Oct 23 18:20:35 try 2.3.0.0RC1 Oct 23 18:20:41 developer mode Oct 23 18:20:48 and install the latest webcam driver Oct 23 18:20:56 oooo... new version!!! I will try that. Oct 23 18:21:30 :) Oct 23 18:21:31 by webcam driver do you mean the application in the dashboard? Or a SSH command line to install some binaries? Oct 23 18:23:03 thre is no official plugins yet for 2.3.0.0 Oct 23 18:23:08 because it's an RC1 Oct 23 18:23:14 and didn't havethe time Oct 23 18:23:16 i can only find 2.2.5.0 on the download site? 2.3.0 seems to be for the fonera 2.0n, I have a 2.0g Oct 23 18:23:20 but you can install older ones Oct 23 18:23:28 the last one seems to work for other users Oct 23 18:23:31 it's in the RC folders Oct 23 18:23:33 ;) Oct 23 18:24:11 ahh - just found! Oct 23 18:24:40 thanks, will try it - will also try from windows PC, in case it's a web browser or MACOSX problem. Oct 23 18:26:43 ah Oct 23 18:26:46 it needs java Oct 23 18:26:47 :) Oct 23 18:26:50 I think Oct 23 18:26:54 can't remember now Oct 23 18:29:27 yeh - the applet loads, so I guess java is working. Oct 23 18:29:39 ok Oct 23 18:30:01 On a related question - now that the 2.0n is out - are we now going to see no more developments for 2.0g and hence should I upgrade to a fonera 2.0n? Oct 23 18:30:38 the firmware is the same Oct 23 18:30:44 we will try to keep both up to sync Oct 23 18:31:02 but there might besome funcitnoality that the fonera 2.0g can't run becauseof hw limitation Oct 23 18:31:05 s Oct 23 18:31:10 sure. Oct 23 18:31:28 cool. Oct 23 18:32:54 Finally - I guess I need to test this in the newest RC, but I still can't use a Three UK UMTS dongle with the fonera as I can't over ride the DNS other than by ssh and editing the resolve.conf file each time. Oct 23 18:33:40 hmm Oct 23 18:33:51 there are 2 options for the dns on the 4g dongles Oct 23 18:34:04 I opened a ticket for this a while ago, and it sort of got fixed, in that an option appeared in the dashboard to 'over ride the DNS' but there was no obvious place to enter the static DNS info. Oct 23 18:34:12 to use the ones in the default predefined conf file (taken from the ubuntu one) or use the one provided by the network Oct 23 18:34:20 one of the 2 should work Oct 23 18:34:42 override means use the one frmo the file Oct 23 18:35:02 giving manual option is not very helpful, most people don't konw the dns of their 3g network Oct 23 18:35:06 but we can think of it Oct 23 18:35:11 I understand. Oct 23 18:35:23 So what file do I need to edit? Is it resolv.conf? Oct 23 18:35:23 maybe we provide the field and fill it with our guess from the file Oct 23 18:35:48 Problem is that the change doesn't seem to stick, or if it does, then when you switch back to ethernet, the DNS is then wrong. Oct 23 18:36:20 Sorry - I'm not explaining very well - am GMT+8 jetlagged from returning from HK to UK. Oct 23 18:36:37 I understoof Oct 23 18:36:42 I don't know where the file is Oct 23 18:36:49 but it shouldn't be dificult to find Oct 23 18:37:21 run: find /etc/ |xargs grep -i simyo Oct 23 18:37:36 or find /usr/ |xargs grep -i simyo Oct 23 18:37:39 or similar Oct 23 18:37:48 I have 1 min now Oct 23 18:37:52 I can check it Oct 23 18:38:04 found it I think. Oct 23 18:38:34 but it's binary file. Oct 23 18:38:53 hmmm Oct 23 18:38:58 you ucan probably replace it Oct 23 18:39:01 if it's a lua file Oct 23 18:39:06 with the text version Oct 23 18:39:09 and edit it Oct 23 18:39:11 3gsp.db.lua Oct 23 18:39:13 what is the file? Oct 23 18:39:14 ok Oct 23 18:39:22 then you can probably use the text version of it from the svn Oct 23 18:40:56 ok - so ubuntu maintain this database of 3G settings? So I need to get them to add the correct DNS for Three UK to it, if they've not already, then take this new file from them and over write the current one on my fonera? Oct 23 18:40:57 http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/browser/trunk/luci/modules/admin-fon/root/etc/3gsp.db.lua Oct 23 18:41:13 not ubuntu but the gnome project, IIRC Oct 23 18:41:22 blathijs: you see? I did it right this time Oct 23 18:42:36 nice file huh? ;) Oct 23 18:45:56 iurgi: :-D Oct 23 19:10:27 beep Oct 23 19:10:59 iurgi: if you remember me, the adapter will arrive in ~8 days... Oct 23 19:14:35 Adapter? Oct 23 19:15:53 the usb to rs232 board Oct 23 19:19:57 MVXA: Ah, you've still not fixed or 2.0g? Oct 23 19:20:06 nope Oct 23 19:20:37 MVXA: Is that something fon-specific, or just a standard USB to serial convertor for your PC? Oct 23 19:20:52 nothing fon specific Oct 23 19:21:08 but it's not a common serial port adapter Oct 23 19:21:56 Yeah, I didn't really mean Fon-specific :-) Oct 23 19:25:37 i bought it only for the fon, it wasn't that expensive like a new fon router <.<... Oct 23 20:10:09 MVXA: What does it do? Can you connect it to the FON board to get at its serial port? Oct 23 20:10:46 yep Oct 23 20:12:53 hi iurgi. I've updated my fonera. webcam still not working, but installed motion (http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/F2_motion) and it works fine, I know the webcam works ok. Oct 23 20:13:15 tried another PC & browser and still get error in the webcam view applet in the dashboard. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Oct 24 02:59:56 2009