**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Oct 29 02:59:57 2009 Oct 29 08:05:50 Hi Oct 29 08:07:09 Me Fonera 2.0n seems to have several problems : Oct 29 08:09:10 first, the wifi doesn't work the led is always orange and I get no signal (it is in mixed b/g/n mode) Oct 29 08:10:01 and if I change the mode to mixed b/g, it works (I get the two SSIDs), however, the led remains orange. Oct 29 08:11:04 And the second one is that I can't get the dev mode, in applications, I only have the music, webcam and printer plugin. Oct 29 08:12:17 I got the fonera yesterday, and the first (and only) thing I did was to upgrade from 2.2.6.0 to 2.3.0.0 Oct 29 08:13:44 Could someone help me to solve that ? Thanks Oct 29 08:20:24 The dev mode thing is known, I've asked the devs about fixing that already Oct 29 08:21:20 Did the wifi work before the upgrade? Oct 29 08:22:32 I don't know, I upgraded before checking. And I had the Off for wifi button set. Oct 29 08:28:16 olà Oct 29 08:32:17 No idea ? Should I try to reset the Fonera ? Oct 29 08:36:02 what problem wosh? Oct 29 08:37:18 Wosh: Dunno, have you tried different wireless clients? Oct 29 08:37:23 Ey Barbon Oct 29 08:37:31 goodmorning ^^ Oct 29 08:37:36 Barbon: I've tried the 2.0n wifi, it works in XP for me Oct 29 08:37:52 the wireless name is display correct? Oct 29 08:37:53 Barbon: I haven't tried the new firmware yet (2.3.0), did you upgrade it? Oct 29 08:38:13 i have this problem with the original firmware Oct 29 08:38:20 Barbon: If I use "Home", it is correct. If I use "Home Test", I just get "Home", but I can still connect using "Home" Oct 29 08:38:44 maybe is because i have odl wireless PCI Oct 29 08:38:55 there is some problem i think Oct 29 08:39:19 blathijs: I tried on two Win XP computers, and as I said, if I change the mode to mixed b/g only, I get a wifi signal Oct 29 08:40:16 oh... Oct 29 08:40:28 so i have to change it into b/g only Oct 29 08:40:40 Barbon: you have the same pb as me ? Oct 29 08:40:56 pb= ? Oct 29 08:41:00 wifi led orange and no signal on 2.3 FW ? Oct 29 08:41:07 *problem Oct 29 08:41:18 (sorry) Oct 29 08:41:21 Barbon: You could try switching it to B/G, see if that changes anything Oct 29 08:41:39 Wosh: Barbon was seeing garbled SSID's, you're seeing no SSID at all Oct 29 08:41:44 i am at shop now so i cant test Oct 29 08:42:00 i return later :P Oct 29 08:42:04 Wosh: Though that might still be the same problem (but different clients reacting differently) Oct 29 08:42:07 ok i try this thing Oct 29 08:42:26 but the wifi dont work correct so Oct 29 08:43:04 you are in office or at home now? Oct 29 08:43:17 I'm @ home right now Oct 29 08:43:33 oh :( Oct 29 08:43:42 i wanna to be at home too Oct 29 08:45:20 im bored of these bee Oct 29 08:45:24 beta firmware xD Oct 29 08:45:32 you aren't? Oct 29 08:48:06 T Oct 29 08:49:10 O Oct 29 08:56:23 Barbon: There's no beta firmware for the 2.0n AFAIK? Oct 29 08:56:41 what? Oct 29 08:56:54 2.3.0 is not beta Oct 29 08:57:03 2.3.0.1 for 2.0g is Oct 29 08:57:09 or RC rather than beta Oct 29 08:58:11 oh Oct 29 09:54:29 xMff: It seems there isn't even a libltdl on the fonera, and there's no libtool ipk built Oct 29 09:54:48 xMff: I guess libltdl is only statically linked at compile time or something Oct 29 09:55:08 xMff: Anyway, I got libtool 2.2.6 to compile, after fiddling with the patches a lot Oct 29 10:01:22 Hmm, there is an libltdl ipk, missed that one Oct 29 10:02:56 But it contains just libltdl.so.7 and libtldl.so.7.2.0, so I guess that should work just fine together with the existing lib Oct 29 10:03:28 Can't test yet, since Pulseaudio is still too big to fit :-) Oct 29 14:19:19 oi Oct 29 14:55:55 iurgi you here? Oct 29 15:24:08 Yipes, my Fonera just kernel oops'd when moving a file :-S Oct 29 15:24:32 Let's reboot Oct 29 15:28:59 Hmm, it did move the file :-) Oct 29 16:03:07 Bah, I keep getting locked out by iptables after a reboot Oct 29 16:03:26 Every try to see if SSH is already running counts to the 3 connections / 3 minutes limit... Oct 29 16:31:37 Bah, it seems that just one SSH connection already satisfies the limit.. Oct 29 16:36:55 Ah, raising hammer in /etc/config/services helped :-) Oct 29 16:43:29 hey guys... Oct 29 16:43:47 hub_port_status failed (err = -71 ) Oct 29 16:43:55 does anyone know why this happens? Oct 29 16:44:25 Does it happen reproducable? Oct 29 16:44:37 yes Oct 29 16:44:46 I connect a USB Hub 2.0 Oct 29 16:44:55 then I insert my 3G dongle Oct 29 16:45:03 Funny... Oct 29 16:45:04 and appear a lot of this errors Oct 29 16:45:16 on dmesg Oct 29 16:49:20 killercode: try echo -1 > /sys/module/usbcore/parameters/autosuspend Oct 29 16:51:28 Hmm, seems that that file doesn't exist Oct 29 16:51:33 Probably another probleme, then Oct 29 16:51:49 I was looking at https://bugs.launchpad.net/linux/+bug/102659 Oct 29 16:52:51 lol Oct 29 16:52:55 yeap doesn't exist Oct 29 17:02:41 I finally managed to install pulseaudio \o/ Oct 29 17:02:52 But now it segfaults /o\ Oct 29 17:23:57 ok Oct 29 17:24:02 I founf the main problem Oct 29 17:24:41 everyone that is interested in use a Huawei E169G must have a powered USB HUB Oct 29 17:25:16 blathijs: use gdbserver or usb-drive + native gdb together with unstripped binaries Oct 29 17:26:26 xMff: I've been looking for native gdb, but couldn't find it among the fon packages Oct 29 17:27:18 blathijs: svn co svn://svn.openwrt.org/openwrt/trunk/package/gdb ~/fon-trunk/package Oct 29 17:27:25 not sure whether it works but worth a try Oct 29 17:27:42 Ah, nice Oct 29 17:27:43 because the dongle has a minimum energy consumption of 500mA... and this is the maximum a USB device can have... what happens here is that the USB HUB since doesn't have a power suply has it's energy consuption cutted by what he needs Oct 29 17:27:47 Hadn't looked there yet Oct 29 17:28:28 so we can never have that Huawei dongle working with a non powered USB HUB Oct 29 17:28:56 also la fonera 2.0g does not provide 500mA Oct 29 17:28:58 LOL Oct 29 17:28:59 ok Oct 29 17:29:08 I will return this hub to the store Oct 29 17:30:21 xMff: My fon build dir is such a maze of different checkouts now :-) Oct 29 17:30:57 well, the most important thing is the toolchain :) Oct 29 17:31:12 yup Oct 29 17:31:26 Hmm, is there any standard way to get unstripped binaries/libraries? Oct 29 17:31:41 in recent openwrt trunk there is Oct 29 17:31:51 previously I just took the binaries from build_dir Oct 29 17:31:56 they're unstripped Oct 29 17:32:28 Ah, that works Oct 29 17:32:29 it also helps to explictely compile the stuff with debugging info by adding -ggdb to the CFLAGS Oct 29 17:32:54 Is it me, or did openwrt.org just drop dead? Oct 29 17:33:00 but then you absolutely need some external storage because the resulting binaries are huge Oct 29 17:33:23 iirc the server is rebooted Oct 29 17:33:27 Ah Oct 29 17:33:52 xMff: I haven't managed to fit on pulseaudio anyway, still short on a few hundered KB I think Oct 29 17:34:01 ok Oct 29 17:34:21 I've now removed some .so Oct 29 17:34:30 I've now removed some .so's from the ipk and symlinked them on manually Oct 29 17:34:40 tried to compile with -Os ? Oct 29 17:35:01 Yeah, I think it does that by default Oct 29 17:35:05 k Oct 29 17:36:37 I've done the obvious thing of stripping stuff that's not needed (locales, headers, manpages), and there's still 1.7MB of binaries and .so's left... Oct 29 17:38:20 well did you try to actually disable features? Oct 29 17:38:26 in configure or whatever Oct 29 17:39:07 not that your current binary supports five different sound systems in three different versions :) Oct 29 18:10:59 xMff: Yes, most of the stuff is already disabled Oct 29 18:31:19 Hmm, crap, I left out a dependency, that turns out to be a few meg as well... Oct 29 18:32:15 Oh wait, I disabled that Oct 29 18:32:22 I'm mixing up packages now :-) Oct 29 18:38:24 xMff: I needed libreadline from openwrt/trunk as well Oct 29 18:40:00 patch out readline Oct 29 18:40:08 its a waste of resources Oct 29 18:40:44 or do you mean you needed it for gdb? Then its okay Oct 29 18:41:09 Yeah, for gdb Oct 29 18:42:04 xMff: Any easy way to use my flash device as an overlay? I've done some manual symlinking so far, but gdb + readline + ncurses will be a lot of work that way I guess... Oct 29 19:03:10 oi Oct 29 19:03:25 blathijs your fix work :P Oct 29 19:03:44 Balthijs thank you! Oct 29 19:03:55 barbon: The fix being to disable N? Oct 29 19:05:27 yea Oct 29 19:06:02 the name is still incorect but work Oct 29 19:06:33 The name is cut after the space, you mean? Oct 29 19:06:42 Or do you still see the weird pound signs? Oct 29 19:06:52 no only cutter Oct 29 19:06:57 but is not important Oct 29 19:07:29 And I can reproduce that, which helps :-) Oct 29 19:07:52 barbon: What WLAN device do you have on your PC? Do you know the chipset? Oct 29 19:08:05 mmm yes 1 sec Oct 29 19:08:41 dwl-g630 branded Didicom D-link Oct 29 19:11:06 i think this bug must be reported as 3° level Oct 29 19:11:22 Seems to be Atheros Communications, Inc. AR5005G 802.11abg NIC chipset, according to google :-) Oct 29 19:11:32 3 what? Oct 29 19:12:56 mmm... not important bug Oct 29 19:13:02 dont know how work bug report here Oct 29 19:13:03 Oct 29 19:15:03 Ah :-) Oct 29 19:15:47 Hmm, trying to mount a second mini_fo filesystem over the first one seems to have locked my fonera :-) Oct 29 19:15:53 Let's reset it :-) Oct 29 19:18:27 Ah, gdb is just a single huge binary Oct 29 19:18:59 what is that? Oct 29 19:21:01 barbon: GNU DeBugger Oct 29 19:21:14 barbon: I'm trying to run pulseaudio, but it segfaults :-) Oct 29 19:21:32 Hmm, crap, disk full again... Oct 29 19:21:36 or rather, flash full Oct 29 19:25:44 lol Oct 29 19:31:03 Bah, that gives me no useful info... Only an invalid stack... Oct 29 19:33:37 Hi Oct 29 19:34:13 I've tried to reset the Fonera, to see if that may bring me the wifi back, but now Oct 29 19:34:40 I have the power led green, the usb one orange and the Lan port 1 green Oct 29 19:34:54 However the Internet one is off Oct 29 19:35:07 And I can't connect to it Oct 29 19:35:31 Is it normal (should I wait some time) ? Oct 29 19:35:51 (Fonera 2.0n) Oct 29 19:36:37 Wosh: I'm not sure what the leds should do, but on my 2.0g it can take a minute or two for everything to boot Oct 29 19:38:17 Nothing has been happening for 10 mins Oct 29 19:39:05 Wosh: Apart from the leds, can you connect? Oct 29 19:40:19 (And I also own a Fonera 2.0g and I never had such a problem) Oct 29 19:42:11 blathijs: No I can't Oct 29 19:42:24 Wosh: Thet networks don't show up? Oct 29 19:42:40 Wosh: Did you set it to b/g mode, or is it in b/g/n mode? Oct 29 19:42:48 (e.g., is this still the same problem as before?) Oct 29 19:43:36 I reseted the Fonera, so it's not the same problem as before Oct 29 19:44:07 DHCP doesn't work, and I plug the Internet port on a reouter, there's no light signaling that a cable is plug Oct 29 19:44:28 Hm, that's weird Oct 29 19:44:31 *no light neither on the Fonera nor on the router Oct 29 19:44:45 "resetted" <-- factory reset by holding the reset button, or just power cycle?> Oct 29 19:45:27 Holding the reset button 30 seconds at the boot of la Fonera Oct 29 19:46:11 You might need to powercycle it again after that, not sure how the 2.0n reacts to that (it doesn't have a failsafe mode like the 2.0g) Oct 29 19:47:30 Gonna try this Oct 29 19:48:48 You seem to be right Oct 29 19:50:15 You were right. However, it didn't reset anything Oct 29 19:51:15 All the config remains the same as before (same pass etc.) Oct 29 19:51:27 And same problems as before... Oct 29 19:56:22 Hmm Oct 29 19:56:37 Perhaps you should try pressing the rest button for some 10 seconds while it is booted instead of during boot Oct 29 19:56:44 ? Oct 29 20:04:50 reset work Oct 29 20:05:01 y need to keep pressed Oct 29 20:06:42 I did, but it didn't work. I reset la Fonera when it was powered on, and now it is reseted. Oct 29 20:10:24 Well, reseting is useless, it only reconfigures pass and Flckr... accounts Oct 29 20:11:35 Wosh: What didn't it reset, then? Oct 29 20:12:54 I thought it would revert to the original fw (2.2.6.0) or may reinstall it or something like this. Oct 29 20:15:28 Reverting to old firmware is impossible, it's overwritten :-) Oct 29 20:15:37 There's not enough flash memory to store both Oct 29 20:15:51 Other than that, it should revert to a clean 2.3.0 image Oct 29 20:17:18 HI! Are there any news on WAN over WiFi for Fonera 2.0n? I just got mine and only now discovered that this seems to be a 2.0g-only feature. Oct 29 20:17:32 So this may be a bug in the 2.3 image Oct 29 20:17:47 I think it is planned, but there's not any ETA yet Oct 29 20:17:56 Wosh: "this" ? Oct 29 20:18:35 blathijs: Any fundamental reason why it's different/more difficult on the 2.0n? Oct 29 20:18:48 eijk: Different wireless chipset Oct 29 20:19:03 blathijs: The fact that if I use mixed b/g/n mode I don't get wifi signal and I have to use mixed b/g Oct 29 20:19:26 Oeh! Pulseaudio gave me some output! Oct 29 20:19:41 It was an error, but that's a lot better than a segfault :-P Oct 29 20:20:00 blathijs: But in principle it can be done or is the chipset limited to less "virtual interfaces" of which one needs at least three for Wifi-WAN. Oct 29 20:20:10 Wosh: Ah, right. If you want to try downgrading, you can try the redboot method (there's a fancy GUI tool for that) Oct 29 20:20:39 eijk: No, I think it can be done, but I don't know the details Oct 29 20:28:28 blathijs: According to the wiki (http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Firmware_Restore#Fonera_2.0n) I can only restore a 2.3 FW version. So it's useless if it is a bug. Oct 29 20:32:44 Maybe someone with Fonera 2.0n could tell me if he faces the same problem: Oct 29 20:32:49 "if I use mixed b/g/n mode I don't get wifi signal and I have to use mixed b/g" Oct 29 20:32:52 I think you should be able to flash in 2.2.6 as well, though Oct 29 20:33:11 Wosh: barbon was seeing something similar Oct 29 20:33:25 Wosh: Did you try with different clients? Oct 29 20:33:38 (I've got a 2.0n and I don't have that problem) Oct 29 20:35:14 blathijs: Whom do you think, I could contact about the Wifi-WAN issue? Oct 29 20:36:52 eijk: You can probably best ask iurgi, when he shows up Oct 29 20:37:04 Great, thanks. Oct 29 20:37:18 eijk: Though I'm pretty sure the devs are already aware of the issue, bugging them about an ETA won't hurt :-) Oct 29 20:37:49 blathijs: Yes, I'd also be glad to help getting it implemented. I really need that feature. Oct 29 20:39:17 eijk: Help meaning debugging and coding? :-) Oct 29 20:39:22 Or just testing? :-p Oct 29 20:39:40 blathijs: only Windows machines Oct 29 20:40:01 Wosh: With different wireless chips perhaps/ Oct 29 20:40:15 Yes Oct 29 20:40:25 Wosh: I would expect this to be a hardware compatibility issue, not a Windows issue per se :-) Oct 29 20:40:35 Wosh: It worked for me on Windows XP as well Oct 29 20:42:04 crap, forgot to put in an USB hub Oct 29 20:42:26 And now I have to unplug my USB stick to get my USB sound card in :-) Oct 29 20:42:32 blathijs: Yes, of course. I am used to cross-compiling stuff. Oct 29 20:42:52 blathijs: I don't have very much time left, but if I need something ;-) Oct 29 20:43:19 blathijs: And probably, this is just about some scripts updated. Oct 29 20:43:50 blathijs: But I guess, there is a reason, why it's not there already (as it worked in 2.0g) and I first want to find out why. Oct 29 20:44:37 eijk: You might want to ask blogic as well, he's a bit more involved in the actual development Oct 29 20:59:23 woah! Oct 29 20:59:30 Pulse started! It created sinks! Oct 29 20:59:36 It might even actually... work? Oct 29 21:05:18 Hmm, it freezes on loading the OSS sink, it seems Oct 29 21:27:46 Hold your breath! Oct 29 21:28:05 I'm about to replace my uclibc library with one with debug symbols Oct 29 21:28:33 Which will probably screw up my Fonera, but well... Oct 29 21:28:59 hmm, so far so sgood Oct 29 21:29:04 nothing blew yet :-) Oct 29 21:29:30 Oeh, it actually _worked_ :-D Oct 29 21:29:43 Now I can step into dynamically loaded libraries... Oct 29 21:30:58 Or perhaps not... Oct 29 21:31:59 crap Oct 29 21:32:05 root@Fonera:~/run/mountd/sda1/pulse-src# cp /tmp/libuClibc-0.9.29.so /lib/ Oct 29 21:32:05 cp: write error: No space left on device Oct 29 21:32:14 root@Fonera:~/run/mountd/sda1/pulse-src# ls Oct 29 21:32:14 Bus error Oct 29 22:25:50 w00t, I've flashed my custom image with crap like picasa and youtube apps disabled Oct 29 22:25:56 Doubles my available flash :-D Oct 29 22:26:52 Interestingly enough, the icons on the dashboard are still there Oct 29 22:28:29 Seems I missed the download manager and twitter app, though Oct 29 22:56:17 is it possible a fonera not being able to detect a powered USB 2.0 HUB? Oct 29 22:58:42 dunno Oct 29 22:59:14 xMff: I managed to get the install to flash thing working, with some tactful setting of $PATH and $LD_PRELOAD_PATH together with opkg's -d option Oct 29 22:59:45 xMff: There will probably some trouble because of stuff like /etc/ and /usr/share, but perhaps I can symlink that back from my flash to / Oct 29 22:59:53 anyway, time for sleep Oct 29 22:59:55 Good night Oct 29 22:59:56 ! Oct 29 23:00:01 just spent 20€ in a Powered HUB 2.0 and the fonera does not react to it :S this sucks :( Oct 29 23:03:27 killercode: Tried rebooting the Fonera? Oct 29 23:03:37 several times Oct 29 23:05:33 That's pretty weird... Oct 29 23:05:39 Anyway, I was off **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Oct 30 02:59:58 2009