**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 06 02:59:57 2009 Nov 06 08:09:54 Buongiorno! Nov 06 09:48:56 iurgi: is normal that the fonera 2.0G has max bandwidth of 2.0 Mbyte/s ? Nov 06 10:11:37 iosonoio : yes...the NAT/iptables on WAN/LAN is soo huge for a fonera+/fonera2.0g ...they put a 2mbyte/s qos throttle on the WAN Nov 06 10:11:58 so everybody with broadband and sharing their internet...is also loosing at least 50% of their internet speed Nov 06 10:12:14 (most people have 4mbit adsl).... people with cable have even more loss of speed Nov 06 10:12:24 Best is not to put your fonera directly behind your internet modem Nov 06 10:12:57 or try to find out how to disable routing/iptables on wan/lan ? I made a lemma on the wiki bundling all info found on this irc : http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Bridge Nov 06 10:14:21 SkyNETbbs: I think you're mixing up MByte and Mbit there, 4MBit/s ~ 400KByte/s Nov 06 10:14:46 http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/F2_MgtConsole_tweaks#QOS Nov 06 10:15:31 Blathijs : is this a kbit or a kbyte setting in your /etc/config/qos :option 'download' '1024' Nov 06 10:15:39 SkyNETbbs: nice Bridge page, btw, good to collect info (though perhaps a warning should be added that the script leaves a lot of issues unsolved) Nov 06 10:15:46 SkyNETbbs: Dunno Nov 06 10:15:50 mmm but i didn0t enabled qis Nov 06 10:15:52 qos Nov 06 10:16:08 or it's enabled by default? Nov 06 10:16:27 And I don't think that the WAN interface is throttled by default, really Nov 06 10:16:39 The FON_FREE_INTERNET signal probably is, though Nov 06 10:16:59 the wiki is still at status of a fonera+ and fonera2.0g (2.1.... somewhere) ... since 2.3 you can "edit" it in the gui Nov 06 10:17:17 please check your own /etc/config/qos .... Nov 06 10:17:31 option 'enabled' '0', option 'enable' '1' .... hmmm Nov 06 10:18:00 option 'enabled' '0' Nov 06 10:18:11 config 'interface' 'hotspot' : option 'enabled' '0'.... upload 512, download 128 ... hmm Nov 06 10:18:12 in my /etc/config/qos Nov 06 10:18:41 iosonoio : is this a f2g or f2n you are looking at? which firmware? Nov 06 10:18:52 it's a f2g Nov 06 10:18:57 with latest firmware Nov 06 10:18:58 2.3 Nov 06 10:19:23 do you also see that "enable" between it's options? Nov 06 10:19:43 on the webpage? Nov 06 10:19:56 in the section qos is set up on disable Nov 06 10:20:58 http://192.168.10.1/luci/fon_admin/qos -> is set to "enabled" here :-) ..although they seemed to made a mistake...they added "enable=1" instead of change "enabled=1" :-) Nov 06 10:21:04 I'll have to make a ticket :-) Nov 06 10:22:31 Created Ticket #454 (new bug) Nov 06 10:22:32 in that page i have it set up to disable? Nov 06 10:22:41 so Nov 06 10:22:49 it's qos set up to disable or not? Nov 06 10:22:50 put it on enabled and fill in realistic speeds...those of your internet connection Nov 06 10:22:55 then check /etc/config/qos Nov 06 10:22:55 :D Nov 06 10:23:04 I guess in 2.3 not the case Nov 06 10:23:07 it was in the past... Nov 06 10:23:58 ok Nov 06 10:26:41 it doesn't solve the problem Nov 06 10:26:47 1,59 Mbyte/sec Nov 06 10:26:53 is the maximum speed :( Nov 06 10:27:21 the fonera is connected on my own internal 100 mbit lan Nov 06 10:27:27 and i'm trying to donwnload Nov 06 10:27:34 a file from a computer Nov 06 10:27:38 on my internal lan Nov 06 10:27:41 and you have a ftp server connected on the wan, and a file on your computer? Nov 06 10:27:47 yes Nov 06 10:27:49 right Nov 06 10:27:59 A<---->fonera <-->B : ftp transfer test .... Nov 06 10:28:07 yes Nov 06 10:28:12 SkyNETbbs: (From the fon blog, about the 2.0n discount) "Opgelet deze actie is slechts geldig tot 30November 2009." <-- My email said 25 oktober? Nov 06 10:28:13 the server is on tha wan Nov 06 10:28:20 the computer is on the lan of the fonera Nov 06 10:28:36 try again but first do : /etc/init.d/qos stop Nov 06 10:28:57 so wan->lan traffic.. Nov 06 10:29:02 ok Nov 06 10:29:39 most emails said XX november... but in the conditions they mention 30 november... Nov 06 10:29:46 with /etc/init.d/qos stop Nov 06 10:29:54 it would be strange the emails were send on the 25th of october...that would mean you had to react very fast Nov 06 10:29:56 2 Mbyte/sec Nov 06 10:31:22 2MB/s is normal Nov 06 10:31:28 the fonera can't NAT faster Nov 06 10:31:30 do iptables --list perhaps they have moved this to iptables throttling? Nov 06 10:31:42 SkyNETbbs: Funny, mine was sent on oct 5 and really said oct 25. Oh well :-) Nov 06 10:32:30 blathijs : you are reffering to the mailing send to people who bought a fonera 2.0g or fonera 2.0n at full price and were offered the upgrade to fonera 2.0n .... Nov 06 10:32:57 Blathijs : now that they are upgraded they offered thesame deal at the end of october untill the end of november to all "active" sharing fonero classic people Nov 06 10:33:05 i got 14 such emails :-) Nov 06 10:34:20 SkyNETbbs: Ah, right. Nov 06 10:34:36 SkyNETbbs: Hmm, but I also have a classic, but didn't get the second email :-p Nov 06 10:37:14 Blathijs : and it was still running end of october with original fon firmware? they probably did a "who'se alive-heartbeat"-check to create that mailing :-) Nov 06 10:37:39 they probably didn't check their logistics database "who has ever ordered a classic at full price" :-) Nov 06 10:38:18 SkyNETbbs: Yeah, I have it running at my parents' place Nov 06 10:38:29 Perhaps my parents plugged it out :-p Nov 06 10:39:55 check maps.fon.com :-) Nov 06 10:41:50 anyone needs a discount? Nov 06 10:41:52 I have 1 Nov 06 10:43:16 Hehe Nov 06 10:43:27 I already have my 2.0n, just one will do for now :-) Nov 06 10:52:39 iurgi: i need discount :) Nov 06 10:52:51 iosonoio: give me your mail address Nov 06 10:53:50 i sent you on pm Nov 06 10:55:12 yup Nov 06 10:58:41 iurgi: have you got it? Nov 06 10:58:46 yes Nov 06 10:58:48 just found it Nov 06 10:58:53 pm Nov 06 11:20:39 hi iurgi, any news on when the new firmware with Ralink-Broadcom fix will be available? I have my new fon 2.0n unpowered, collecting dust :-( Nov 06 11:21:11 yes Nov 06 11:21:15 soon Nov 06 11:22:05 minuts? hours? Nov 06 11:22:06 :-) Nov 06 11:24:21 days Nov 06 11:24:55 Ok ,great! I'm happy tot test! Nov 06 11:25:11 yes, we will release an rc Nov 06 11:25:27 that fixes wifi and some more things Nov 06 11:27:40 And will my 2.0g and 2.0n ever be able to work together and be on the same IP range (192.168.10.xxx)? I read a lot about bridging. I really would like them to have them working together. Will this be possible? Nov 06 11:28:51 voorstad: With briding, I think the 192.168.10.x range will disappear alltogether Nov 06 11:30:15 As long as I can reach my printer on 2.0g when connected to my 2.0n, I don't care..... :-) Nov 06 11:30:19 blathijs : you can put upto 4 foneras (classic, + , 2.0g) behind a fonera2.0n thanks to it's 4 lan ports Nov 06 11:30:59 but at the moment I have to put them in the 192.168.11.0 range (the gui allows it)... but again ... 192.168.1.0/24 on my adsl modem (4ports), 192.168.10.0/24 on the fonera 2.0n and then 192.168.11.0/24 on the end-foneras Nov 06 11:31:28 SkyNETbbs: In that setup, you'll be doing triple NAT... Nov 06 11:31:28 I don't think Voorstad is talking about the n2n feature that Blogic was also working on... Nov 06 11:32:06 Yes that would be "tripple"... and if you use fonera+/fonera2.0g in serie you could even go quad/and more :-) Nov 06 11:33:04 I just want to plugin my 2.0g an d my 2.0n in my ADSL modem and be able to access both.... Independent of being connected to 2.0g or 2.0n Nov 06 11:33:21 in the past blogic talked about incorporating a script that noticed if the wan side was using "private adresses"... and if dhcp was active... give the possibility to allow "dhcp forwarding"... (1 ip for this fonera... forward lan to wan for other ip's)... but it seems this idea was lost in the todo-list :-) Nov 06 11:34:13 voorstad : allow wan access on both... remember ipadresses of both... eg 192.168.1.65 gives then wan-gui of fonera 2.0g, 192.168.1.66 gives then wan-gui of fonera 2.0n .... Nov 06 11:34:22 SkyNETbbs: That's exactly what the bridge mode would be, I think Nov 06 11:34:48 SkyNETbbs: I think voorstad means to connect to devices connected to both g and n Nov 06 11:34:59 You just want to have one big private network Nov 06 11:35:05 and then they could turn of nat/iptables ...or only let it run on the "hotspot" network...and thus increase throughput of the fonera Nov 06 11:35:18 SkyNETbbs: Yup, that sounds like a fine idea Nov 06 11:35:22 yep, printer on 2.0g, HD on 2.0n and still be able to access both Nov 06 11:36:08 I think he wants to be able to move from myplaceG to myplaceN keeping his ip & connections.... this was possible with "freewlan" classic foneras...because the foneras could be changed into "managed switches" instead of "routers" Nov 06 11:36:26 have 2.0n in front of the house, 2.0g at the back and increase Hotspot Nov 06 11:36:43 voorstad : you can do that allready... just enable all WAN services and configure these ip's... Nov 06 11:37:09 if you correctly forward the correct ports to the correct wan ip's... you could even just use your "dyndns". adres... 1 adres to rule'em all Nov 06 11:37:22 no problems with DHCP? Nov 06 11:37:38 voorstad: NAT should take care of that Nov 06 11:37:54 I'm lost, sorry Nov 06 11:38:26 is in in the wiki somewhere? Nov 06 11:38:36 voorstad: But that only works for connecting to the Foneras themselves (and devices directly attached, like USB printers). You can't connect to hosts on the other Fonera's wifi Nov 06 11:38:39 Don't think so Nov 06 11:39:01 Or actually, I don't know :-) Nov 06 11:39:33 voorstad: But the trick is to access your Fonera's through their "WAN" ip, instead of 192.168.10.1 Nov 06 11:39:45 voorstad: You should try it, it should just work :-) Nov 06 11:39:49 Blathijs : he only wants to connect to usb printer and samba services from both foneras...he's not talking about connecting to clients BEHIND the routers Nov 06 11:40:10 SkyNETbbs: I thought he was at first, but I see it now. No bridge mode required :-) Nov 06 11:40:50 I'll explain: I have an ADSL router (192.168.1.1), with two fonera's: 2.0n an d 2.0g Nov 06 11:40:51 connecting to the foneras is possible ...just enable all wan ports and check your internet modem if you can "fix" their ip's ... then if you know that eg the printer plugin uses port 9001 .. and samba uses 445/135/139/... then you know which ports to forward where on your internet modem Nov 06 11:41:17 if you use dyndns -> public ip -> internet router -> First nat -> internet router dhcp/portforward table is used Nov 06 11:41:45 eg for what he asks...there is no need for the "bridge" functionality... both foneras will still be a member of the 192.168.1.x range Nov 06 11:41:49 Skynetbbs, are you talking to me or to Blathijs? Nov 06 11:42:12 voorstad: To you :-) Nov 06 11:42:33 and he might be in 192.168.10.1 of the foneraN or the 192.168.10.1 of the foneraG... that's not a problem.... it becomes a problem when a client from FoneraG wants to talk to a client behind foneraN ...then he should change the myplace/lan into 192.168.11.1 i believe Nov 06 11:42:38 both :-) Nov 06 11:43:44 iurgi: if i download the fon-ng trunk now have i the fix for iphone/macbook issue? Nov 06 11:45:08 iurgi: Changelog says you won't Nov 06 11:45:16 http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/log/trunk Nov 06 11:46:06 right :) Nov 06 11:52:58 blathijs: correct Nov 06 11:53:03 it's not there yet Nov 06 13:45:55 oi Nov 06 13:48:15 bahjis you here? Nov 06 13:48:16 XD Nov 06 13:50:03 Woah, that's a fair amount of typos in one word :-) Nov 06 13:50:11 (Assuming you were referring to me, of course) Nov 06 13:50:38 Did you know most IRC clients support tab completion? Try typing bl :-) Nov 06 13:50:46 yes sorry i typed wrong xD Nov 06 13:50:55 blathijs: Nov 06 13:50:58 lul Nov 06 13:51:08 Hmm, it's not getting better Nov 06 13:51:10 cool Nov 06 13:51:22 (lul is Dutch for dick... :-p) Nov 06 13:51:22 blathijs: Nov 06 13:51:24 blathijs: Nov 06 13:51:34 is not lol? Nov 06 13:51:35 XD Nov 06 13:52:18 blathijs, yesterday i tryed to execute the script Nov 06 13:52:32 when i execute it it say a lot of thing Nov 06 13:52:47 and say eh0 is already part of bridge, bla bla bla Nov 06 13:53:31 I read it, but haven't thought about it yet :-) Nov 06 13:54:45 so is a et0 error? Nov 06 13:55:00 Perhaps you need to specify a different interface Nov 06 13:55:18 Did you see http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Bridge ? Nov 06 13:55:52 nope Nov 06 13:56:31 mmm Nov 06 13:56:46 the code of fonera 2.0g e 2.0n is not different Nov 06 13:56:49 right? Nov 06 13:58:00 * Nov 06 13:58:02 o for the Fonera 2.0n you need to find/replace the following in the script: Nov 06 13:58:03 replace on the script every "eth0.1" with "eth0.2" Nov 06 13:58:05 oh Nov 06 13:59:02 Yes, that part in particular :-) Nov 06 13:59:19 i dont have do that Nov 06 13:59:39 why you dont have linked that site yesterday? Nov 06 14:00:03 Because SkyNETbbs only pasted it this morning :-) Nov 06 14:00:17 oh Nov 06 14:00:19 nice :) Nov 06 14:00:26 And from the history, he only created it yesterday Nov 06 14:00:55 Partly from the stuff said on IRC :-) Nov 06 14:00:57 how to replace on the script every "eth0.1" with "eth0.2" ? Nov 06 14:01:13 I guess you don't know how to use vim? :-) Nov 06 14:01:16 i have to re-upload the modifyed script? Nov 06 14:01:21 i am a noob XD Nov 06 14:01:49 I think vim is the only editor on the system, perhaps you could lookup a short tutorial to get to know its basics Nov 06 14:02:03 It's probably easier on the long term than reuploading stuff Nov 06 14:03:29 i prefer to rep-upload the script :P Nov 06 14:10:32 http://www.sanitariacamporomano.com/bridge2n Nov 06 14:10:33 :P Nov 06 15:43:22 Barbon: the script that you've posted works or not? Nov 06 15:47:20 Hello Nov 06 15:53:04 i tried this script: http://www.lorenzobraghetto.com/wp-content/uploads/bridge Nov 06 15:53:23 but internet connection is not continuos :) Nov 06 15:53:31 i mean sometimes work sometimes not :D Nov 06 15:54:17 I'm trying the Fon connector for Android. It simply rocks!!! Nov 06 15:54:26 lol Nov 06 16:03:36 I'm trying to access http://acdrtux.es/junk/luci-rsdownloader_0.3.6.tgz from http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Fon-ng:_Get_Involved. Do you know where I can get it? Nov 06 16:15:37 guys what about the first fonera? Nov 06 16:15:42 isn't in the shop anymore? Nov 06 16:17:35 no Nov 06 16:20:58 iosonoio: Did you also configure a static IP on your WAN interface? Nov 06 16:21:08 iosonoio: That script doesn't work well with DHCP on WAN Nov 06 16:21:26 yes static Nov 06 16:22:02 riecomi gente Nov 06 16:22:13 bella! Nov 06 16:22:20 iosonoio i have to try Nov 06 16:22:23 stasera lo provo Nov 06 16:22:35 pl Nov 06 16:22:37 ok Nov 06 16:23:08 ieri avevo provato ma nn sapevo che con la fon 2.0n Nov 06 16:23:15 bisognasse cambiare l'ethernet Nov 06 16:24:23 ah ok Nov 06 16:24:33 yes you have to change it ;) Nov 06 16:31:50 http://www.sanitariacamporomano.com/bridge fon 2.0n :P Nov 06 17:50:37 ciao Nov 06 18:02:26 oi Nov 06 18:02:29 how to unistall Nov 06 18:02:35 the old bridge script? Nov 06 18:05:56 barbon: Probably run /etc/init.d/bridge disable (if you ran enable) Nov 06 18:06:06 barbon: And then just remove it (rm /etc/init.d/bridge) Nov 06 18:06:27 barbon: If you replace it with a script with the same name, you can just leave it enabled and replace it Nov 06 18:08:25 ok i try now Nov 06 18:09:23 unistalled Nov 06 18:11:06 bridge 100% |*******************************| 466 --:--:-- ETA root@Fonera:~# /etc/init.d/bridge start /bin/sh: can't open /etc/rc.common Nov 06 18:11:37 i have this error: can't open /etc/rc.common Nov 06 18:12:46 mmm Nov 06 18:13:24 wget -O /etc/init.d/bridge http://www.sanitariacamporomano.com/bridge && chmod +x /etc/init.d/bridge is correct? Nov 06 18:21:10 somesone can help? Nov 06 18:21:20 appaer this error when i try to launch Nov 06 18:21:37 root@Fonera:~# /etc/init.d/bridge start /bin/sh: can't open /etc/rc.common Nov 06 18:21:39 barbon: Is this a completely different script, or did you just replace the eth thingie? Nov 06 18:22:03 i just take the script from the wiki Nov 06 18:22:43 http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Bridge Nov 06 18:23:31 http://www.sanitariacamporomano.com/bridge => is the script for fon 2.0n Nov 06 18:24:51 is the same right? Nov 06 18:25:13 or try to find another place to host the script Nov 06 18:27:07 you can host it for me? Nov 06 18:27:09 pls xD Nov 06 18:28:20 barbon: You should reall try to use vim :-) Nov 06 18:28:22 Try this: Nov 06 18:28:39 rm /etc/init.d/bridge (to remove the current script) Nov 06 18:28:49 ok Nov 06 18:28:57 now? Nov 06 18:29:12 vim /etc/init.d/bridge (This opens up vim for the file) Nov 06 18:29:45 it have open an editor Nov 06 18:29:53 Then :set paste (including the :, that tells vim to execute a command. This prevents vim from doing autoindenting and messing up your tabs) Nov 06 18:30:13 Then press i (This will enter insert mode, allowing you to type things) Nov 06 18:30:25 Now copy paste the script into your terminal Nov 06 18:30:34 i write :set paste first? Nov 06 18:30:37 or i press i? Nov 06 18:30:54 I'm giving instructions in a particular order, am I not? :-) Nov 06 18:31:01 Then press ESC (this leaves insert mode) Nov 06 18:31:15 Then :wq (This writes the file and quits) Nov 06 18:31:34 done Nov 06 18:31:35 now? Nov 06 18:31:58 Then you've succesfully used vim to save the script :-) Nov 06 18:32:14 lol Nov 06 18:32:16 Now do the chmod Nov 06 18:32:19 i try to execute it? Nov 06 18:32:20 And then try to start Nov 06 18:32:36 (The chmod tells linux that it is an executable script) Nov 06 18:32:41 /etc/init.d/bridge start Nov 06 18:32:42 ? Nov 06 18:36:37 back Nov 06 18:36:44 it have worked? Nov 06 18:39:58 dont work Nov 06 18:39:59 -.- Nov 06 18:45:15 how i know if the script running? Nov 06 18:54:30 barbon: The script runs only once, it doesn't keep running Nov 06 18:55:05 barbon: I think you can check by running "ifconfig", see if the "br-lan" interface has your WAN IP Nov 06 18:56:50 ok i check Nov 06 19:30:27 mmm Nov 06 19:30:31 is working Nov 06 19:30:38 but i cant access on my fonera page Nov 06 19:30:40 :/ Nov 06 19:30:51 i forgot to se nat XD Nov 06 19:32:06 what i have to do for fix that problem? Nov 06 19:33:11 barbon ci sei? Nov 06 19:34:13 sì Nov 06 19:34:16 il bridge funziona Nov 06 19:34:23 però la fonera nn ha + ip Nov 06 19:34:39 l'ho provato anch'io Nov 06 19:34:47 nella mia fonera 2.0n Nov 06 19:34:53 idem Nov 06 19:34:57 barbon: Forgot to set what? Nov 06 19:35:04 the static ip of fon Nov 06 19:35:14 I set a static ip Nov 06 19:35:16 i cant reach on it Nov 06 19:35:22 xD Nov 06 19:35:54 i dont have put the script into autorun Nov 06 19:35:59 fortunaly Nov 06 19:36:09 i reboot now Nov 06 19:36:11 barbon: Then just reboot it, I guess Nov 06 19:36:30 I saw that clients do not always take the ip automatically Nov 06 19:36:57 i reboot Nov 06 19:37:57 in the script I replaced START=40 with START=99 Nov 06 19:38:43 so it works on every boot Nov 06 19:39:04 with 40 I had problems Nov 06 19:41:39 i have to put static ip on clients or fon? Nov 06 19:42:56 secure in the fonera, in the client when they encounter problems Nov 06 19:43:29 in my fonera, with this script, the fon-spot does not work Nov 06 19:43:43 i go away Nov 06 19:43:46 see later Nov 06 19:46:27 how i can see the chat log? Nov 06 19:47:21 mmm Nov 06 19:47:28 how to set static ip on fon? Nov 06 19:51:35 wiki.openwrt.org is back Nov 06 19:51:43 oops. wrong chan :) Nov 06 19:53:50 blathijs: I think theres a setting for WAN IP in the WebGUI Nov 06 20:07:43 hey guys i have to disable dhcp and i can keep the ip 192.168.10.1? Nov 06 20:08:52 barbon: I think the lan IP settings will be overridden by the WAN settings Nov 06 20:09:32 so how i can do it? Nov 06 20:10:02 network setting? Nov 06 20:10:37 Let me check Nov 06 20:10:58 ok :) Nov 06 20:11:21 Settings -> Internet -> set to Static IP Nov 06 20:11:25 That's your WAN settings Nov 06 20:12:09 so what i have to write? Nov 06 20:12:23 the data of my provider? Nov 06 20:12:27 or only a ip? Nov 06 20:13:02 ip 192.168.1.253 Nov 06 20:13:06 Just some IP on you internal network Nov 06 20:13:16 Preferably one that you're sure your modem won't give out through DHCP Nov 06 20:13:39 i try :) Nov 06 20:13:45 gaterway: ip of my modem? Nov 06 20:13:58 Yup, DNS as well Nov 06 20:15:24 ok done Nov 06 20:15:30 i save and let me check Nov 06 20:15:31 :) Nov 06 20:17:17 ok Nov 06 20:17:19 internet work Nov 06 20:17:20 :) Nov 06 20:17:42 now i have to re-put the script Nov 06 20:17:44 right? Nov 06 20:19:15 reboot Nov 06 20:22:03 blathjis i am ready for the script now Nov 06 20:22:13 can you tell me again the manual procedure? Nov 06 20:22:21 (paste it on whisper) Nov 06 20:25:15 some gentleman can paste the conversation when bathijs told me how to manualy insert an script? Nov 06 20:30:51 barbon: You should set up logging for your IRC client :L-) Nov 06 20:30:55 s/L// Nov 06 20:33:35 i love you Blath xD Nov 06 20:34:16 barbon: I'll have to disappoint you, I'v already got a girlfriend :-P Nov 06 20:34:39 lol Nov 06 20:43:25 Bah, it seems my pulseaudio problems are caused by the dynamic linker not doing its job properly, or something... Nov 06 20:44:09 I finally managed to properly set up a complete gdb debugging environment, turns out that the lack of a backtrace was caused by stack corruption after all :-p Nov 06 20:52:45 done :) Nov 06 20:53:04 i can reach into fon config page :) Nov 06 20:55:19 phew is perfect! Nov 06 20:55:25 ( i dont use AP) Nov 06 21:13:29 ^^ Nov 06 21:58:18 oi deco Nov 06 21:58:40 Blathjis thank you for assisting me, it work all Nov 07 00:21:17 hi Nov 07 00:21:45 where can i buy a fonera 2.0 beta ? Nov 07 00:21:58 shop.fon.com Nov 07 00:22:02 this one http://wiki.fon.com/wiki/Fonera_2.0g Nov 07 00:22:23 or ebay :) Nov 07 00:22:52 i can not found it into the fon shop Nov 07 00:23:47 hm I see Nov 07 00:25:05 (not better into ebay ) Nov 07 00:26:14 maybe it is sold out? Nov 07 00:26:20 perhaps Nov 07 00:26:36 I think you can ask iurgi tomorrow, he's probalby not around right now Nov 07 00:27:08 i'm building a bot with a fonera 1 and somme recup motors, but i should be happy to add a webcam ... perhaps an over time Nov 07 00:27:18 ok Nov 07 00:28:51 so you need the usb port I assume Nov 07 00:29:11 too bad the fonera+ has none Nov 07 00:29:27 and the 2.0n would be too big for you bot I think Nov 07 00:30:12 yes, you'r right ^^ Nov 07 01:13:19 coool o: Nov 07 01:13:41 I thought about how cool it would be to use the fonera router as an embed device to control a robot o: Nov 07 01:13:48 could you take some pictures pleease **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 07 02:59:57 2009