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Dec 14 07:51:08 <Danicasti> Buongiorno!
Dec 14 08:09:27 <iurgi> ciao
Dec 14 09:15:21 <blogic> morning
Dec 14 09:15:53 <barbon> oi blogic
Dec 14 09:16:15 <barbon> can i ask you a thing? in next release you can make dhcp available with bridge?
Dec 14 09:16:22 <barbon> i prefer to use fonera dhcp
Dec 14 09:16:33 <barbon> of ip assignement
Dec 14 09:17:39 <barbon> because my main router dhcp ip assignement suck
Dec 14 12:41:23 <barbon> i have resolved all problem :D
Dec 14 12:41:34 <barbon> my security-wifi cam work now
Dec 14 12:41:36 <barbon> :P
Dec 14 12:41:50 <blathijs> Cool :-)
Dec 14 13:24:41 <grothesk> -_-
Dec 14 13:24:55 <grothesk> Thist darn F2.0N is driving me nuts.
Dec 14 13:25:08 <grothesk> I try to set up the Music app.
Dec 14 13:25:24 <grothesk> A working USB Audio device is connected.
Dec 14 13:25:44 <grothesk> I entered some webstreams, all was well.
Dec 14 13:25:55 <grothesk> But suddenly the app was broken.
Dec 14 13:26:31 <grothesk> Now I get: http://nopaste.info/83f50a07f8.html
Dec 14 13:27:09 <grothesk> I already did a factory reset. No luck with that. What might be broken now with that damn router?
Dec 14 13:31:20 <iurgi> grothesk: what firmware are you using?
Dec 14 13:31:29 <iurgi> audio plugin is not supported officially yet
Dec 14 13:32:03 <grothesk> 2.3.5
Dec 14 13:32:22 <iurgi> audiod is not supported at all in this release candidate ((
Dec 14 13:32:23 <iurgi> :(
Dec 14 13:32:42 <grothesk> But it worked...
Dec 14 13:32:48 <grothesk> Some minutes... -_-
Dec 14 13:33:23 <grothesk> Do I need to have a HDD or USB Stick attached for buffering?
Dec 14 13:33:36 <iurgi> hmmm
Dec 14 13:33:40 <iurgi> I don't konw
Dec 14 13:33:45 <iurgi> maybe CyrusFF knows about that
Dec 14 13:33:53 <iurgi> yo udon't want to play files but stream from the internet?
Dec 14 13:34:04 <grothesk> I was trying streams.
Dec 14 13:34:28 <iurgi> I see
Dec 14 13:34:41 <CyrusFF> the nopaste is not working for me
Dec 14 13:35:25 <iurgi> nor me
Dec 14 13:36:45 <grothesk> http://nopaste.info/83f50a07f8.html
Dec 14 13:39:04 <grothesk> http://nopaste.debianforum.de/33244
Dec 14 13:46:00 <CyrusFF> hmm
Dec 14 13:47:05 <grothesk> O.K. When attaching a USB Stick it works again. Seems it needs to be attached for buffering.
Dec 14 13:47:52 <grothesk> This requirement should be implemented in the wiki.
Dec 14 13:50:59 <CyrusFF> it doesn't need a usb memory stick
Dec 14 13:51:43 <grothesk> *shruggs*
Dec 14 13:51:55 <grothesk> It works now with a USB Stick attached.
Dec 14 13:55:54 <grothesk> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Dec 14 13:56:08 <grothesk> Works only some minute or so.
Dec 14 13:57:05 <grothesk> -_-
Dec 14 13:57:26 <grothesk> Only some seconds and then all is quiet.
Dec 14 13:58:28 <grothesk> Everything very shaky. But it does fit to the rest of that routers software... -_-
Dec 14 14:02:30 <grothesk> ROTFL
Dec 14 14:02:50 <grothesk> Now that router resetted itself.
Dec 14 14:03:09 <grothesk> Did nothing but running that Music app.
Dec 14 14:03:49 <grothesk> And now I have http://nopaste.debianforum.de/33250  again
Dec 14 14:16:23 <grothesk> No. I just  doesn't work. Very disappointing.j
Dec 14 14:47:10 <giuseppeg88> ciao a tutti!
Dec 14 15:17:37 <barbon> ciao giuseppe
Dec 14 15:20:23 <iosonoio> Hi everyone!
Dec 14 15:21:34 <iosonoio> someone can tell me what is more fast (for the fonera2): usb pen or a hard-disk mounted
Dec 14 15:22:02 <iosonoio> iurgi__: what do you think?
Dec 14 16:54:07 <iosonoio> iurgi: are you here?
Dec 14 17:30:48 <barbon> iurgi is sleeping like a pig xD
Dec 14 17:43:45 <iosonoio> lol
Dec 14 17:43:50 <iosonoio> iurgiiiii
Dec 14 17:45:47 <seb134> hi, which fonera 2g firmware has bridging available as an option? ie. connecting to internet via wifi
Dec 14 17:52:24 <t00dy> hello
Dec 14 17:52:29 <t00dy> anyone here
Dec 14 17:54:26 <t00dy> well?
Dec 14 17:54:43 <t00dy> i have problem with my Option iCon 225 UMTS modem
Dec 14 17:54:49 <t00dy> who can i talk to?
Dec 14 18:16:09 <iosonoio> anyone from the developer zone?
Dec 14 18:24:40 <t00dy> i'm back
Dec 14 18:25:13 <t00dy> anyone??
Dec 14 18:25:31 <t00dy> i have HUGE problem with my Option iCon 225 UMTS modem
Dec 14 18:25:49 <t00dy> on fon wiki it says it works but for e it doesnt
Dec 14 20:37:25 <russo> hey guys
Dec 14 20:37:31 <russo> i'm having some problems compiling
Dec 14 20:37:49 <russo> http://pastie.org/743117 <- namely...
Dec 14 20:40:07 <russo> hmm the package "options" seem x related, the ones that aren't workng that is
Dec 14 20:43:33 <pablo_bz> x related?
Dec 14 20:44:09 <russo> gtk/x11
Dec 14 20:44:13 <pablo_bz> russo: try 'make clean' after you change any 'make menuconfig' option
Dec 14 20:44:31 <pablo_bz> ah, no, there is not gtk/x11 on the fonosfera fon-ng tree
Dec 14 20:44:49 <russo> i just installed all the luci feeds
Dec 14 20:45:19 <pablo_bz> so you did an install.sh and _re_compiled in openwrt/
Dec 14 20:45:45 <pablo_bz> do 'make clean' before 'make menuconfig' and see if that does it
Dec 14 20:46:46 <russo> hmm i tried that
Dec 14 20:46:57 <russo> i mean the openwrt feeds include x
Dec 14 20:48:04 <pablo_bz> ah
Dec 14 20:49:05 <pablo_bz> so you did svn co http://svn.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/trunk and then...
Dec 14 20:49:23 <russo> yeah
Dec 14 20:49:23 <russo> then ./install_sh
Dec 14 20:49:32 <russo> then make menuconfig in opewnrt
Dec 14 20:49:39 <russo> then ./scripts/feeds update -a
Dec 14 20:49:48 <russo> ./scripts/feeds install -a
Dec 14 20:49:52 <russo> make menuconfig
Dec 14 20:50:00 <russo> and the second one didn't work anymore
Dec 14 20:50:16 <russo> so its something a feed installs
Dec 14 20:50:26 <russo> and consider the x11 libs that were references in the configures, i think i'll just only install the feeds i need ;)
Dec 14 20:51:09 <pablo_bz> ah ah
Dec 14 20:51:20 <pablo_bz> the ./scripts/feeds update -a is not needed to make a fonosfera image
Dec 14 20:51:42 <pablo_bz> that is pumping openwrt stuff into the tree i think
Dec 14 20:51:57 <russo> no you're absolutely right
Dec 14 20:52:02 <russo> well
Dec 14 20:52:12 <russo> update -a just dls the svn scripts to install openwrt
Dec 14 20:52:20 <pablo_bz> the ./install.sh && cd openwrt/ && make menuconfig && make will suffice
Dec 14 20:52:40 <russo> i just want asterisk, luci and igmpproxy from openwrt
Dec 14 20:52:50 <pablo_bz> ah ok
Dec 14 20:53:02 <pablo_bz> hum
Dec 14 20:53:39 <russo> has anyone tested the performance?
Dec 14 20:53:59 <russo> i'm curious if my fonera2.0n will get all of my 50Mbit
Dec 14 20:54:25 <russo> my wrt54gl didn't manage
Dec 14 20:54:29 <russo> it capped at like 26Mbit
Dec 14 20:54:41 <russo> so i run openwrt in a xen vm on my home server :)
Dec 14 20:54:48 <pablo_bz> ok, that's good :)
Dec 14 20:54:52 <russo> that gets 49.5Mbit ;)
Dec 14 20:55:30 <russo> but anyway its expensive to have a pointless server running all day ;) i'm hoping the fonera can replace my giant server as a router ;)
Dec 14 20:55:50 <pablo_bz> aha
Dec 14 20:56:18 <pablo_bz> you can get the packages/asterisk from openwrt, put it in the folder, without having to fiddle with feeds yet
Dec 14 20:56:36 <pablo_bz> and it will appear in the pertinent section of the 'make menuconfig'
Dec 14 21:05:36 <pablo_bz> russo: but why do you want to replace fonera20n luci's?
Dec 14 21:05:57 <russo> i dunno i was just seeing if its possible
Dec 14 21:06:08 <russo> i don't want all the apps though
Dec 14 21:06:11 <pablo_bz> ah, of course it is :)
Dec 14 21:06:13 <russo> or are they lightweight?
Dec 14 21:06:26 <pablo_bz> yes, they do not consume anything unless used
Dec 14 21:06:31 <russo> okay
Dec 14 21:06:38 <russo> they're just html scripts?
Dec 14 21:06:49 <pablo_bz> the thing is that, how much does asterisk weight?
Dec 14 21:06:59 <pablo_bz> perhaps that would make a great installable plugin
Dec 14 21:07:59 <pablo_bz> no, they are not html/lua only scripts, but if they are not used they just cost flash, not ram
Dec 14 21:08:30 <pablo_bz> for bigger executables/libraries there is an .img (loop-file) format on disk
Dec 14 21:09:12 <pablo_bz> for example, the torrent application (Transmission) that would not fit in lafonera20n flash, is installed into an .img in the hard drive attached to the fonerea
Dec 14 21:13:37 <russo> yeah
Dec 14 21:13:39 <russo> asterisk is a couple of megs
Dec 14 21:13:45 <russo> i'm gonna install it later
Dec 14 21:14:02 <russo> worst case i'll run it somewhere else
Dec 14 21:16:48 <pablo_bz> no, you can put the files in a pendrive and run them from there, for a starter
Dec 14 21:17:14 <pablo_bz> but compile should be a non-issue for someone running openwrt in a pc :)
Dec 14 21:17:46 <pablo_bz> i guess that copying the relevant files into fon/asterisk or openwrt/packages/asterisk would do it
Dec 14 21:23:35 <russo> no i just compiled it as a module
Dec 14 21:23:45 <russo> so i have the ipkg
Dec 14 21:24:04 <russo> i just don't want it to be on the fw image
Dec 14 21:24:14 <russo> so now the more interesting question
Dec 14 21:24:21 <russo> whats the easiest way to install?
Dec 14 21:24:35 <russo> developer firmware with ssh? and then flash after scp?
Dec 14 21:27:09 <pablo_bz> yes
Dec 14 21:27:22 <pablo_bz> :) actually there is no other way for an image compiled by you :)
Dec 14 21:33:55 <russo> pablo_bz: where can i get a developer image with ssh?
Dec 14 21:34:37 <russo> pablo_bz: you reckon the realtek stuff will get into openwrt trunk? or is that a fat chance since its all binary?
Dec 14 21:34:45 <russo> s/realtek/ralink
Dec 14 21:35:37 <pablo_bz> russo: you have ssh already on any fonera2.0 image
Dec 14 21:35:52 <russo> nice
Dec 14 21:36:56 <pablo_bz> ralink into trunk? fat chance, if there are any binary blobs in openwrt trunk is because they are also in any regular linux distribution
Dec 14 21:37:18 <russo> hmm
Dec 14 21:37:24 <russo> nmap would beg to differ about ssh ;)
Dec 14 21:37:28 <russo> or is it just not enabled?
Dec 14 21:37:46 <pablo_bz> mmm
Dec 14 21:37:50 <pablo_bz> you have to enable it
Dec 14 21:38:06 <pablo_bz> i do not recall where
Dec 14 21:39:05 <russo> :P
Dec 14 21:39:49 <pablo_bz> :)
Dec 14 21:39:55 <russo> what runs on 8080?
Dec 14 21:40:49 <pablo_bz> 8080? tha processor?
Dec 14 21:41:07 <pablo_bz> never used one. Z80's are better
Dec 14 21:42:28 <Yasuo> i hear theres a new one
Dec 14 21:42:32 <Yasuo> they call it 8086
Dec 14 21:42:38 <Yasuo> future music
Dec 14 21:43:02 <Yasuo> russo: 8080 sounds like proxy
Dec 14 21:43:25 <russo> whats the point?
Dec 14 21:43:52 <russo> anyway i can't find ssh, are you sure its in the normal 2.0n image, pablo_bz
Dec 14 21:43:52 <russo> ?
Dec 14 21:44:12 <pablo_bz> yes, you have to enable it somehow
Dec 14 21:44:20 <pablo_bz> probably in the fon's userzone ;)
Dec 14 21:44:28 <pablo_bz> switch to developer mode or something
Dec 14 21:46:34 <russo> pablo_bz: i think you underestimate the fact, i'm booting this for the first time ;)
Dec 14 21:46:55 <russo> the way its going so far, i'll be installing openwrt's luci ;)
Dec 14 21:50:57 <russo> http://download.fonosfera.org/LATEST/fonera2.0n-FON2300/ <- i reckon that will be enough right?
Dec 14 21:57:18 <russo> is there no swconfig?
Dec 14 21:57:22 <russo> can i compile it in?
Dec 14 21:57:34 <russo> i was hoping to get vlantags :(
Dec 14 21:58:49 <xMff> there is no switch driver yet
Dec 14 22:01:11 <russo> damn it
Dec 14 22:57:07 <molgar> hi there
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