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Apr 09 07:08:40 <barbon> yo
Apr 09 07:14:25 <blathijs> iurgi: It seems the upstream rt2x00 driver can work with the 2.0n, or at least partially supports it. Some of the upstream devs posted some debug output he made on a 2.0n :-)
Apr 09 07:14:54 <barbon> oi blath ^^
Apr 09 07:15:00 <barbon> can i ask you an question?
Apr 09 07:15:20 <barbon> is normal when i use bridge mode on fon, the application page is offline?
Apr 09 07:16:01 <blathijs> Dunno, I'll check after breakfast
Apr 09 07:16:31 <barbon> ok
Apr 09 07:33:07 <blathijs> barbon: It works for me in bridge mode
Apr 09 07:33:17 <barbon> mmm
Apr 09 07:33:20 <blathijs> barbon: Did you fill out the DNS server and Gateway addresses correctly?
Apr 09 07:33:25 <barbon> yes
Apr 09 07:33:27 <blathijs> In the bridge settings
Apr 09 07:33:39 <barbon> primary dns right?
Apr 09 07:33:51 <blathijs> yeah, that should work
Apr 09 07:33:54 <barbon> and gaterway = router ip
Apr 09 07:34:09 <barbon> that is 192.168.1.254
Apr 09 07:34:16 <blathijs> That seems ok
Apr 09 07:34:42 <barbon> it appaer check internet connection
Apr 09 07:34:48 <barbon> dunno why
Apr 09 07:38:18 <blathijs> barbon: I take it you're seeing the message "You are currently offline and cannot install new applications." ?
Apr 09 07:38:33 <blathijs> I just tried screwing up my DNS server settings, and now I get that as well :-)
Apr 09 07:38:57 <blathijs> barbon: You should probably double check your settings (compare them with whatever ipconfig /all on your PC is telling you) and then reboot
Apr 09 07:39:26 <blathijs> I've found that after changing the internet settings in bridge mode, stuff breaks (mostly the wireless connection, though)
Apr 09 07:42:44 <barbon> i have to test
Apr 09 07:43:35 <blathijs> With reboot, I mean reboot the Fonera, btw, not your PC
Apr 09 07:46:39 <barbon> i have rebooted yesterday
Apr 09 07:46:48 <barbon> same situation
Apr 09 07:46:59 <barbon> ( i have read the blog :P)
Apr 09 07:58:05 <blathijs> Then I don't have any ready suggestions, sorry :-)
Apr 09 09:37:34 <iurgi> hi
Apr 09 09:38:18 <blathijs> hey iurgi
Apr 09 09:49:55 <barbon> oi iurgi
Apr 09 11:31:45 <Andy80> hi all
Apr 09 11:32:18 <blathijs> Hi Andy80
Apr 09 11:32:43 <blathijs> Andy80: AFAIU, there should be an upgrade thingy for 2.3.5. Did you get it working yet?
Apr 09 11:32:46 <Andy80> I've just upgraded my f2n to 2.3.6.0 fw. Finally, after a reboot, the upgrade was visible in Applications. Now there is a problem: the fonera reply to my ping (it's ip is 192.168.0.105) but I'm not able to connect to the webif :\
Apr 09 11:34:07 <blathijs> Andy80: I take it that is from WAN, not from LAN ?
Apr 09 11:34:42 <Andy80> my pc is connected to Netgear main router and F2n is connected to Netgear
Apr 09 11:36:03 <blathijs> So that's from WAN side, as far as the Fonera is concerned
Apr 09 11:36:22 <blathijs> There have been some issues with this in the past, but I think they might have been resolved
Apr 09 11:36:28 <Andy80> are you saying me that all my settings are lost after the upgrade?
Apr 09 11:36:31 <blathijs> Hmm, wait, I didn't upgrade with a tarball
Apr 09 11:36:57 <blathijs> Andy80: There was an issue that the "the password is secure" flag got lost on an upgrade, not other settings
Apr 09 11:37:12 <Andy80> -.-
Apr 09 11:37:14 <blathijs> Not sure if that issue is still present, though.
Apr 09 11:37:33 <Andy80> I'm not able to connect to it neither via wifi
Apr 09 11:37:43 <Andy80> wtf!
Apr 09 11:37:59 <blathijs> Hmm, that is weird. Is the SSID still what you configured?
Apr 09 11:38:28 <Andy80> I see "FonAndrea", wps protected, but I cannot see the public SSID
Apr 09 11:38:31 <Andy80> for example...
Apr 09 11:39:46 <blathijs> Andy80: Did you try rebooting? I've seen some issues with the WiFi after switching on bridge mode, that were resolved by a reboot
Apr 09 11:40:03 <Andy80>  I'll try to reboot...
Apr 09 11:40:41 <Andy80> the upgrade was fixed with a reboot, the wifi signal should fixed with a reboot... a real Linux device :D
Apr 09 11:41:50 <blathijs> hehe :-)
Apr 09 11:41:53 <Andy80> nothing fixed!
Apr 09 11:41:55 <Andy80> ufff
Apr 09 11:42:03 <Andy80> I'll try with my notebook
Apr 09 11:42:18 <blathijs> Andy80: I've looked at the upgrade script in the tarball, it seems the password flag issue is still there
Apr 09 11:42:41 <blathijs> Andy80: So that would explain why you can't reach the webgui from the WAN side, since that is only enabled with a strong password
Apr 09 11:42:49 <blathijs> Andy80: I don't know why your wifi isn't working
Apr 09 11:43:02 <blathijs> iurgi: Seems like the pass_good issue on upgrades hasn't been resolved yet
Apr 09 11:46:25 <Andy80> thr wpa is resetted after an upgrade?
Apr 09 11:47:05 <blathijs> Andy80: I don't think so, the pass_good flag shouldn't affect WPA (it's a different password, AFAIK it only affects SSH and WebGUI from WAN)
Apr 09 11:48:46 <Andy80> uhmm...
Apr 09 11:48:55 <Andy80> btw the old WPA password doesn't work anymore
Apr 09 11:49:07 <Andy80> is there at least a way to completely reset all the configuration?
Apr 09 11:51:42 <Andy80> I'll try using the fucking ethernet
Apr 09 11:52:14 <Andy80> omg
Apr 09 11:52:22 <blathijs> I think you can hold the reset button for a few seconds (10 or so?) to reset all config, but using ethernet might be easier
Apr 09 11:52:25 <Andy80> it neither cannot get an IP from the eth too -.-
Apr 09 11:52:27 <blathijs> Also more informative
Apr 09 11:52:45 <Andy80> this is a piece of shit
Apr 09 11:52:47 <Andy80> not a router
Apr 09 11:52:49 <Andy80> belive me
Apr 09 11:53:54 <blathijs> Did you have bridge mode configured? (Was that even possible in 2.3.5?)
Apr 09 11:55:16 <Andy80> no I don't think so
Apr 09 11:55:28 <iurgi> and	...~.
Apr 09 11:55:33 <Andy80> I'll reset settings....
Apr 09 11:55:41 <iurgi> Andy80: please, calm down
Apr 09 11:55:47 <iurgi> you are the only one having these issues
Apr 09 11:56:03 <iurgi> I think it's better to wait until you know the problem, before saying it's a piece of shit
Apr 09 11:56:32 <iurgi> so far, nobody reported anything similar, so let's see what's going on with you
Apr 09 11:56:38 <iurgi> how do you know the upgrade succeeded?
Apr 09 11:57:25 <Andy80> I don't know
Apr 09 11:57:34 <Andy80> I just used the Application upgrade
Apr 09 11:57:39 <barbon> that is happened me using the application
Apr 09 11:57:56 <barbon> you have final fw or dev fw?
Apr 09 11:58:04 <Andy80> I suppose dev
Apr 09 11:58:07 <Andy80> since I had dev
Apr 09 11:58:11 <Andy80> and I simply upgraded
Apr 09 11:58:16 <barbon> that happened to me when i trying to upgrade from final to dev
Apr 09 11:58:21 <barbon> or viceversa
Apr 09 11:58:21 <Andy80> using the webif
Apr 09 11:58:22 <iurgi> andy, you had 2.3.5.0, right?
Apr 09 11:58:28 <Andy80> yes
Apr 09 11:58:31 <iurgi> ok
Apr 09 11:58:51 <iurgi> since you upgraded, you haven't been able to connect to the web interface?
Apr 09 11:58:53 <iurgi> not a single time?
Apr 09 11:59:33 <Andy80> brbr 5 minutes
Apr 09 11:59:41 <Andy80> right
Apr 09 12:00:22 <blathijs> iurgi: That he cannot connect from the WAN side after an upgrade is a known issue, because the upgrade script doesn't preserve the pass_good variable, so the firewall won't open the WAN side.
Apr 09 12:00:22 <iurgi> ok
Apr 09 12:00:33 <iurgi> blathijs: yes
Apr 09 12:00:41 <iurgi> but the weird thing is he says wifi is not working either
Apr 09 12:00:42 <iurgi> :o
Apr 09 12:00:43 <blathijs> iurgi: Though I don't think this actually ended up on the trac (or do you have it registered on your internal tracker?)
Apr 09 12:01:02 <Andy80> I think I've just resetted my settings
Apr 09 12:01:03 <iurgi> blathijs: nope, that's probably why it hasn't been fixed :(
Apr 09 12:01:08 <Andy80> and f2n has done a reboot
Apr 09 12:01:14 <Andy80> now let's see if I can connect
Apr 09 12:01:34 <blathijs> iurgi: I'll create a report then, since it is a nasty issue for people without easy physical access
Apr 09 12:02:51 <iurgi> brbr
Apr 09 12:02:52 <iurgi> thanks
Apr 09 12:02:54 <iurgi> brb
Apr 09 12:05:40 <blathijs> Hmm, though it seems the webgui service doesn't even use the pass_good variable?
Apr 09 12:08:55 <blathijs> And according to the svn log, it never did (or at least the "protect" variable was never on in /etc/config/services)
Apr 09 12:16:52 <Andy80> finally
Apr 09 12:16:59 <Andy80> after the reset I had tor econfigure all
Apr 09 12:17:08 <Andy80> but at least now it's working
Apr 09 12:30:20 <alexsc> hi @ all thx for the new fw for the fonera 2.0n
Apr 09 12:41:02 <blathijs> iurgi: I've reported it in #633
Apr 09 12:57:10 <Andy80> blathijs: I'll let you know if it's stable this time :P
Apr 09 13:01:00 <giuseppeg88> hi!
Apr 09 13:01:21 <giuseppeg88> in te new fw the WPS has been removed?
Apr 09 13:01:29 <giuseppeg88> *in the
Apr 09 13:16:01 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Dunno, my wpa_supplication does say WPS AP found, so I guess not?
Apr 09 13:37:47 <giuseppeg88> strange, before it worked... now when I connect a new device I'm forced to manually enter the password (and I can not press the WPS button behind the Fonera to avoid doing this)...
Apr 09 13:42:19 <blathijs> I've never used WPS, so can't help you there :-)
Apr 09 13:44:33 <iurgi> giuseppeg88: there was never WPS in the fonera 2.0n
Apr 09 13:45:54 <blathijs> iurgi: Then why is there a button labeled WPS?
Apr 09 13:46:20 <iurgi> for when we enabled i
Apr 09 13:46:21 <iurgi> t
Apr 09 13:46:21 <giuseppeg88> I used many times the WPS in 2.3.5.0
Apr 09 13:46:24 <iurgi> ah
Apr 09 13:46:25 <iurgi> 2.3.5.0
Apr 09 13:46:33 <iurgi> that was never an official release, but an RC
Apr 09 13:46:38 <giuseppeg88> ah ok
Apr 09 13:46:42 <iurgi> we will add WPS in the future
Apr 09 13:46:48 <giuseppeg88> thanks
Apr 09 13:47:42 <giuseppeg88> this feature is very useful
Apr 09 13:47:58 <blathijs> iurgi: It does seem that WPS is advertised by the 2.0n (my wpa_supplicant says "WPS-AP-AVAILABLE")
Apr 09 13:48:17 <iurgi> blathijs: probably, but the full logic is not implemented, I think
Apr 09 13:48:27 <blathijs> k :-)
Apr 09 13:48:30 <iurgi> we did have it, but we reverted many of the changes on the 2.3.5.0
Apr 09 13:48:43 <iurgi> so, probably the driver starts in WPS advertising mode
Apr 09 13:48:47 <iurgi> but there's no way to trigger it
Apr 09 13:48:54 <iurgi> but I will make sure
Apr 09 13:49:05 <iurgi> it works very well on the SIMPL
Apr 09 13:49:14 <iurgi> so it will be no problem to add it to the 2.0n
Apr 09 13:50:21 <blathijs> :-)
Apr 09 13:50:22 <giuseppeg88> the fonera Simple will have the same fw of fonera 2.0n?
Apr 09 13:51:42 <giuseppeg88> *Simpl
Apr 09 13:56:30 <iurgi> no
Apr 09 13:56:33 <iurgi> it's a new firmware
Apr 09 13:56:42 <iurgi> we will eventually merge them, maybe
Apr 09 14:00:10 <giuseppeg88> uao
Apr 09 14:30:54 <barbon> iurgi i can give back the fon 2.0n to the fon for a free simpl?
Apr 09 14:30:56 <barbon> :P
Apr 09 14:32:15 <giuseppeg88> lol
Apr 09 14:32:27 <iurgi> :)
Apr 09 14:34:00 <barbon> i dont need 5 port wan xD
Apr 09 14:35:25 <giuseppeg88> curiosity: do you know if the Simple will be sold before or after the summer?
Apr 09 14:41:20 <iurgi> giuseppeg88: not decided yet
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