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Aug 13 06:42:07 <blathijs> Morning
Aug 13 07:17:28 <arcsky> moin
Aug 13 09:50:51 <akey> hi
Aug 13 09:51:16 <akey> I have one doubt about fonera 2.0
Aug 13 09:51:56 <akey> does it have an active process to update date and hour?
Aug 13 09:53:45 <blathijs> I think so, yes
Aug 13 09:55:07 <akey> thx blathijs
Aug 13 09:57:42 <blathijs> Are you having issues with the time?
Aug 13 09:59:50 <akey> no, we are developing an application that depends on the fonera's hour
Aug 13 10:00:59 <akey> ups
Aug 13 10:01:02 <akey> yes
Aug 13 10:01:07 <akey> we have an issue
Aug 13 10:01:22 <akey> our fonera has 2 hour delay
Aug 13 10:02:01 <_OldMan_> It uses UTC
Aug 13 10:03:05 <blathijs> what _OldMan_ says :-)
Aug 13 10:04:32 <_OldMan_> look at: http://forum.fon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=170 for a solution.
Aug 13 10:10:57 <akey> ok, I have checked out the topic, it has been useful, thx oldman!
Aug 13 10:15:11 <akey> do you know if La Fonera has a daemon to update the hour?
Aug 13 10:15:46 <blathijs> You mean the classic? I think it runs Ntp as well, though I'm not sure
Aug 13 10:16:15 <akey> i have checked it using ps -A
Aug 13 10:16:39 <blathijs> and?
Aug 13 10:16:48 <akey> and it doesn run any process with somecing similar to ntp
Aug 13 10:16:49 <blathijs> it should be called ntpclient or ntpsomething
Aug 13 10:17:08 <blathijs> It might have updates scheduled, though
Aug 13 10:17:11 <akey> none of them
Aug 13 10:17:20 <blathijs> is there a /usr/bin/ntpclient?
Aug 13 10:17:31 <blathijs> or /usr/sbin or /bin or /sbin :-)
Aug 13 10:18:13 <akey> nope
Aug 13 10:18:35 <blathijs> weird
Aug 13 10:18:37 <blathijs> is the time correct?
Aug 13 10:18:44 <akey> yes
Aug 13 10:18:53 <blathijs> then I guess it has something :-)
Aug 13 10:18:58 <akey> its the right utc hour
Aug 13 10:19:10 <akey> i think so
Aug 13 10:55:59 <inouk> ak the scrit for ntp should be in /etc/fonstated
Aug 13 10:56:12 <inouk> ah crap he left...
Aug 13 10:56:40 <blathijs> inouk: Is that for the classic, or 2.0?
Aug 13 10:56:51 <inouk> 2.0
Aug 13 10:57:32 <blathijs> Yeah, I found that one
Aug 13 10:57:34 <inouk> i didn't get he looking for fonera 1.0
Aug 13 10:57:50 <blathijs> He was asking for both, I think :-)
Aug 13 10:58:00 <inouk> anyway is off
Aug 13 10:58:04 <inouk> and me too
Aug 13 10:58:06 <inouk> see ya
Aug 13 10:58:10 <blathijs> bye :-)
Aug 13 10:58:31 <blathijs> (I was going to say I haven't seen you on IRC much lately, but you're gone again already :-)
Aug 13 10:59:48 <blathijs> ey derflooh
Aug 13 11:00:02 <blathijs> derflooh: Any progress? Complained with your netadmins perhaps?
Aug 13 11:02:16 <derflooh> hey blathijs, no, the dns blocking is their policy
Aug 13 11:02:22 <derflooh> they wont change it
Aug 13 11:02:53 <derflooh> but i'm moving in september, and then i will have a normal internet connection
Aug 13 11:03:49 <blathijs> hm, stupid...
Aug 13 11:04:49 <blathijs> I don't think there's much we can do to fix that, then...
Aug 13 11:05:23 <blathijs> You could try setting up an openvpn connection to an openvpn server and route just connections to cthulhu through there, but not sure it that will work
Aug 13 11:07:13 <derflooh> yeah, maybe i'll try that
Aug 13 11:08:17 <blathijs> The 2.0n has openvpn by default, shouldn't be too hard to set it up as a client
Aug 13 11:08:26 <blathijs> though you'd have to fiddle around with the firewall a bit
Aug 13 15:49:09 <Appleonkel> blathijs: still the same, the link to register is empty
Aug 13 16:32:28 <Appleonkel> can it be a problem in luci/themes/fon/luasrc/view/themes/fon/systray.htm in line 21, the id is in the <li> tag not in <a>
Aug 13 16:57:59 <blathijs> Appleonkel: Can you pastebin the HTML source somewhere?
Aug 13 17:00:21 <blathijs> Appleonkel: I get a normal a tag (thoug it seems there is an extra newline between the h= and m= arguments, perhaps that throws off some browsers. Haven't noticed that before...)
Aug 13 17:02:12 <blathijs> Appleonkel: (I'm assuming you've installed RC1, btw?)
Aug 13 18:03:19 <Appleonkel> http://svn.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/trunk/luci/themes/fon/luasrc/view/themes/fon/systray.htm in line 21
Aug 13 18:03:43 <Appleonkel> yes i installed RC1
Aug 13 18:12:41 <Appleonkel> So it came up in Firefox/Konqueror http://pastebin.com/bSWaGwJ6
Aug 13 18:13:09 <Appleonkel> should be browser independent ;)
Aug 13 18:21:24 <blathijs> Appleonkel: Weird. This is how it should be: http://pastebin.com/5znAeagw
Aug 13 18:21:40 <blathijs> Appleonkel: (And note the extra newlines, I can imagine some browsers screwing up that
Aug 13 18:23:38 <blathijs> Appleonkel: I don't think the id tag is relevant in systray.htm, it looks ok
Aug 13 18:25:42 <Appleonkel> i thought because, the three others are in the <a> tag, and i can imagine, that javascript has problems with that
Aug 13 18:29:54 <blathijs> Appleonkel: Hmm, it is inconsistent, but I don't think javascript should be related here
Aug 13 18:31:05 <Appleonkel> btw. the same in all three versions I installed
Aug 13 18:31:23 <blathijs> three versions of what?
Aug 13 18:31:56 <blathijs> three versions of what?
Aug 13 18:31:59 <blathijs> Appleonkel: Do you have SSH access? If so, could you pastebin your /etc/chilli.conf file and the output of the "logread" command?
Aug 13 18:32:36 <Appleonkel> all three version of the firmware
Aug 13 18:32:39 <Appleonkel> one mom
Aug 13 18:36:41 <Appleonkel> http://pastebin.com/Ci1krrR5
Aug 13 18:38:42 <blathijs> It seems your Fonera can't reach the radius server
Aug 13 18:38:53 <blathijs> we've seen this happen more often lately
Aug 13 18:39:14 <blathijs> and since it has never reached the radius server yet, it hasn't got a hash to identify itself with
Aug 13 18:40:04 <Appleonkel> it is behind, another router, so i have somthing to forward?
Aug 13 18:40:14 <blathijs> Usually, that happens automatically
Aug 13 18:40:43 <blathijs> (The Fonera sends an UDP packet to the radius server, which sends a packet back to the same port, so routers will usually forward that
Aug 13 18:40:46 <blathijs> )
Aug 13 18:41:01 <blathijs> It might be a Fonera firewall issue, we're not quite sure
Aug 13 18:43:25 <blathijs> Appleonkel: Do you have a Linux machine behind the Fonera (or in parallel with it) with dig installed?
Aug 13 18:43:32 <blathijs> If so, could you try the command "dig @213.134.45.88 test TXT" ?
Aug 13 18:47:16 <Appleonkel> Ok that solves, that the LaFonera behind the 2.0n can also not connect
Aug 13 18:47:32 <Appleonkel> which did the job before
Aug 13 18:49:36 <blathijs> Did it work behind the router behind which the Fonera now is? :-)
Aug 13 18:49:54 <blathijs> e.g., do you think the 2.0n is breaking it, or your primary router?
Aug 13 18:52:44 <Appleonkel> i think the 2.0n is breaking it, i can test it, if it helps
Aug 13 18:56:21 <Appleonkel> so yes, no i am online on fon.com (LaFonera behinds primary Router)
Aug 13 18:57:42 <blathijs> That's weird..
Aug 13 18:58:10 <blathijs> Appleonkel: I've got to go now, do you think you'll be around next monday?
Aug 13 18:58:46 <blathijs> Appleonkel: I'd like to get to the bottom of this, it seems this problem is affecting more people lately
Aug 13 18:58:50 <Appleonkel> i am not sure about monday, but one day next week i will be here
Aug 13 18:59:16 <blathijs> that would be great. I should be here most of the week
Aug 13 18:59:54 * blathijs is off
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