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Aug 25 06:34:45 <Josemi> Good morning
Aug 25 08:09:14 <arcsky> moin
Aug 25 08:12:12 <blathijs> Morning
Aug 25 08:15:11 <batiatto> morning all
Aug 25 08:15:27 <batiatto> blathijs, are you available for a query?
Aug 25 08:16:21 <blathijs> yeah, just ask
Aug 25 08:16:33 <batiatto> not sure if you recall we were discussin my issue with the new fonera 2.0n, where the public SSID goes up and down, when a client is connected to it. So I installed the DEV firmware and still have the same issue but I got the logread file
Aug 25 08:16:45 <batiatto> where can I send it to you? email?
Aug 25 08:17:27 <batiatto> FOn_FREE_INTERNET ssid is stable and on till I have a client connecting to it, then the wifi goes down (after around 15- 20 seconds
Aug 25 08:18:11 <blathijs> batiatto: Put the logread on pastebin.com, that's the easiest
Aug 25 08:21:04 <batiatto> done. what do you need now?
Aug 25 08:21:25 <blathijs> The link to the pastebin :-)
Aug 25 08:21:39 <batiatto> http://pastebin.com/vtre4baL
Aug 25 08:22:14 <batiatto> let me know if it's ok. I go for a coffee now
Aug 25 08:31:05 <blathijs> batiatto: It seems you're suffering from http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/ticket/874
Aug 25 08:31:26 <blathijs> We've been working to debug this issue during the last few weeks, and it's likely that we've found the cause for it
Aug 25 08:32:55 <arcsky> blathijs: which is the "best" hotspots sputnik,hotspotsystem,wifidog,chillispot ?
Aug 25 08:35:09 <blathijs> arcsky: Dunno, I only know chillispot from the Fonera
Aug 25 08:36:10 <arcsky> ok
Aug 25 08:39:00 <arcsky> 2006-09-24 ChilliSpot 1.1 released
Aug 25 08:39:04 <arcsky> dead project?
Aug 25 08:44:20 <batiatto> so blathijs, what do I do with it? return the unit? wait?
Aug 25 08:45:15 <blathijs> arcsky: There's coova-chillispot which continued (and which Fonera uses)
Aug 25 08:45:41 <blathijs> batiatto: Wait a bit. It's most likely not caused by the unit, but something in your internet connection.
Aug 25 08:46:05 <blathijs> batiatto: If our current theory proves right, we can probably fix this problem very soon
Aug 25 08:46:12 <batiatto> I tried at home, anda t work this morning
Aug 25 08:46:50 <batiatto> at home I have 10Mb dwn/ 1Mb up, same at work
Aug 25 08:47:06 <batiatto> complete different DSL areas
Aug 25 08:47:30 <batiatto> so if that is a dsl problem, then it happens in both @ home & @ work
Aug 25 08:47:41 <blathijs> We suspect that this is related to the maximum packet size of a connection
Aug 25 08:48:02 <blathijs> It seems that packets larger than 1400-something bytes don't get through
Aug 25 08:48:14 <arcsky> mtu problem?
Aug 25 08:48:28 <blathijs> arcsky: yeah, that's the most plausible guess now
Aug 25 08:59:50 <batiatto> what are the plans to get this fixed?, timelines?
Aug 25 09:00:11 <batiatto> just concerned that if this is not fixed soon i won't be able to return the unit.
Aug 25 09:00:33 <batiatto> so are we talking about day, weeks, months?
Aug 25 09:02:00 <blathijs> days to weeks
Aug 25 09:05:21 <arcsky> blathijs: what do you work with right now ?
Aug 25 09:05:32 <blathijs> arcsky: How do you mean exactly?
Aug 25 09:05:41 <arcsky> yes any project or something?
Aug 25 09:05:43 <arcsky> coding ?
Aug 25 09:06:01 <arcsky> new firmware ?
Aug 25 09:06:19 <blathijs> I'm mostly working on bugfixes right now
Aug 25 09:06:24 <arcsky> oki
Aug 25 09:06:48 <blathijs> And I've been exploring and improving the firmware release process for 2.3.6.1
Aug 25 09:07:20 <arcsky> ;)
Aug 25 10:16:46 <Tas> hi
Aug 25 10:16:53 <blathijs> Morning, Tas
Aug 25 10:19:47 <Josemi> Hi Tas
Aug 25 10:19:57 <_OldMan_> blathijs, do you think you can release the new version today?
Aug 25 10:19:57 <_OldMan_> I leave for Spain tomorrow, today is my last chance to install this version.
Aug 25 10:21:01 <blogic> _OldMan_: poor you
Aug 25 10:21:19 <_OldMan_> No, not at all.
Aug 25 10:21:44 <blogic> ok, i find spain a pita
Aug 25 10:22:03 <_OldMan_> It is lovely in the winter.
Aug 25 10:22:16 <blogic> its lovely when the spaniards are away :D
Aug 25 10:22:25 <blathijs> _OldMan_: I'll probably just put them online on a different site for this week, then when people are back in the office next week, we'll upload to the official download.fonosfera.org
Aug 25 10:22:38 <blogic> lol
Aug 25 10:22:54 <blogic> ah, its the fonosfera channel, thought it was #mipslinux
Aug 25 10:22:55 <blogic> bummer
Aug 25 10:22:58 <blogic> oh well
Aug 25 10:23:06 <Josemi> blathijs: Do you mean Rapidshare, Megaupload...?
Aug 25 10:23:30 <blathijs> Josemi: Just HTTP on my own server
Aug 25 10:23:47 <Josemi> Better :)
Aug 25 10:23:59 <_OldMan_> There are (almost) no Spanish people in Benidorm :-D :-X
Aug 25 10:24:13 <_OldMan_> That will be nice, very nice.
Aug 25 10:24:27 <Josemi> When will be that? Today?
Aug 25 11:00:38 <blathijs> Release! http://blog.fonosfera.org/gari-jr-bringing-small-but-important-fixes/
Aug 25 11:18:05 <giuseppeg88> great!
Aug 25 11:20:35 <blathijs> Now let's hope it doesn't blow up in our faces :-)
Aug 25 11:23:15 <_OldMan_> Okay, lets go. Hope to be back in a couple of minutes. After the upgrade.  =-O
Aug 25 11:34:55 <_OldMan_> Well I ´m on air and it looks good. Be away to test and install motion4fon.
Aug 25 11:35:08 <_OldMan_> cu all
Aug 25 11:52:20 <Josemi> Hi all
Aug 25 11:52:40 <arcsky> hello
Aug 25 11:53:00 <Josemi> blathijs: You have to close the 2.3.6.1 milestone on trac http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/milestone/Firmware%202.3.6.1
Aug 25 11:53:14 <Josemi> tagging it at released
Aug 25 11:53:24 <blathijs> Josemi: Ah, good point. Thanks :)
Aug 25 11:53:38 <Josemi> You are welcome
Aug 25 11:53:56 <Josemi> BTW, Whay will happen with FON-Backup?
Aug 25 11:54:03 <Josemi> Will be any new version?
Aug 25 11:54:21 <Josemi> Or it is depracated?
Aug 25 11:55:07 <Josemi> deprecated*
Aug 25 11:56:36 <blathijs> Dunno, I should still ask about that :-)
Aug 25 11:57:11 <Josemi> Ok, keep us updated when you know ;-)
Aug 25 11:57:15 <Josemi> please
Aug 25 12:06:07 <Josemi> Hi Tas
Aug 25 12:06:26 <Tas> hi Josemi
Aug 25 14:07:18 <Josemi> blathijs: Just a question, Is true that you are working on Fon-ng2?
Aug 25 14:07:27 <Josemi> I have just read it on the forums
Aug 25 14:07:41 <Josemi> Hi giuseppeg88
Aug 25 14:07:46 <giuseppeg88> hi
Aug 25 14:08:00 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: perhaps there is a problem in the wizard of the new fw...
Aug 25 14:08:14 <blathijs> Josemi: Huh, what and where?
Aug 25 14:08:19 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Joy :-)
Aug 25 14:08:22 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: What about it?
Aug 25 14:08:32 <giuseppeg88> I do the factory reset
Aug 25 14:08:47 <giuseppeg88> and I receive an error in the step 3
Aug 25 14:09:25 <Josemi> blathijs: http://forum.fon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=104#p347
Aug 25 14:10:49 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: I upload the snapshot?
Aug 25 14:10:56 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Let me guess, that's the rapidshare page?
Aug 25 14:10:58 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Yes, please
Aug 25 14:11:14 <giuseppeg88> ok. a minute, please
Aug 25 14:13:19 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8867/step3t.jpg
Aug 25 14:17:58 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: What step is that?
Aug 25 14:18:42 <giuseppeg88> I d'
Aug 25 14:19:11 <blathijs> uh?
Aug 25 14:19:14 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: I don't know. It's after the password setting
Aug 25 14:19:36 <giuseppeg88> (that is the second step)
Aug 25 14:30:02 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: I found small inconsistencies (no bugs) in the the step1 and in the step2: I report them here, or directly, I create the tickets in trac?
Aug 25 14:40:39 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Please create a ticket, then I won't forget :-)
Aug 25 14:40:51 <giuseppeg88> ok!
Aug 25 14:41:20 <Josemi> blathijs: Can you please answer my previous question?
Aug 25 14:41:29 <Josemi> Are you qorking on fon.ng2?
Aug 25 14:41:38 <Josemi> working*
Aug 25 14:42:00 <blathijs> Josemi: Nope, I'm busy enough with fon-ng right now :-)
Aug 25 14:42:04 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: also for the step3?
Aug 25 14:42:18 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: No, let me try to reproduce that first
Aug 25 14:42:33 <blathijs> Josemi: I think fon-ng2 is the SIMPL firmware, which is still private right now
Aug 25 14:42:36 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: ok
Aug 25 14:42:45 <Josemi> Ok, thanks for answering
Aug 25 14:47:42 <blathijs> Though I've still not seen any actual code or anything, so I'm nog 100% sure :-)
Aug 25 14:49:15 <Josemi> BTW, When will the fonera SIMPL going to be released?
Aug 25 14:49:23 <Josemi> It was sheduled for July, I think
Aug 25 14:49:57 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Heh, I noticed the bridge mode in the wizard before, but I had indeed forgotten about it :-)
Aug 25 14:50:23 <giuseppeg88> lol
Aug 25 14:50:24 <blathijs> Josemi: I have no clue. I think the waiting is on perfecting the firmware...
Aug 25 14:54:12 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Which Fonera did you factory reset, btw? The one with the pppoe bug?
Aug 25 14:54:18 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: If so, did the bug go away?
Aug 25 14:56:39 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: this is another Fonera (which I use in bridge);
Aug 25 14:56:41 <giuseppeg88> if you want, I can see if the pppoe works
Aug 25 14:57:05 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: You have a lot of Fonera's ;-)
Aug 25 14:57:11 <giuseppeg88> lol
Aug 25 14:57:29 <blathijs> See http://trac.fonosfera.org/fon-ng/ticket/886, Calvin is having the same issue in DHCP mode
Aug 25 14:57:30 <giuseppeg88> 2 fonera 2.0n and a fonera 2.0g
Aug 25 14:57:49 <giuseppeg88> mmm
Aug 25 14:58:42 <giuseppeg88> Upload in this ticket my old image (about pppoe)?
Aug 25 15:03:07 <blathijs> yeah, good plan
Aug 25 15:11:56 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: I'm now in dhcp and the ip is shown
Aug 25 15:13:16 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: now I reboot the Fonera so I see if it continues to show it
Aug 25 15:18:14 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: I just reboot the fonera and the ip continues to show (in the dhcp mode)
Aug 25 15:30:14 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: I set the pppoe mode; I reboot 2 times and the ip is appeared both times
Aug 25 15:32:01 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Is this after a factory reset, or just a mode change?
Aug 25 15:32:51 <giuseppeg88> I changed it (from dhcp to pppoe)
Aug 25 15:35:03 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Ah, right
Aug 25 15:35:15 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: This is the different Fonero?
Aug 25 15:35:30 <giuseppeg88> Fonero?
Aug 25 15:35:37 <blathijs> Uh, Fonera :-)
Aug 25 15:35:47 <giuseppeg88> ah ok ;-)
Aug 25 15:36:03 <giuseppeg88> today I used only a fonera
Aug 25 15:38:09 <giuseppeg88> this isn't the fonera that I used some days ago for the tests about pppoe
Aug 25 15:44:05 <blathijs> ok
Aug 25 16:00:32 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Bah, the wizard bug occurs for me as well :-S
Aug 25 16:06:43 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: step3 regards the plugin rapidshare / megaupload?
Aug 25 16:08:34 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Yup. It seems that this happens only when you're not connected to the internet when starting the wizard
Aug 25 16:08:35 <giuseppeg88> if yes, this error may be due to recent changes in rapidshare plugin?
Aug 25 16:09:04 <blathijs> (Though I'm not sure why the FOnera thinks I'm not connected, perhaps I started the wizard too soon)
Aug 25 16:09:27 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: I suspected that, but now I've looked at the code, I don't think so
Aug 25 16:09:50 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: But I don't understand what the problem is yet...
Aug 25 16:11:16 <giuseppeg88> I think the percentage that the Fonera is properly connected to the Internet is really low when you do the wizard...
Aug 25 16:12:17 <blathijs> Dunno, most people just have DHCP nowadays, I guess
Aug 25 16:12:19 <blathijs> at least in .nl
Aug 25 16:15:52 <giuseppeg88> is the wiki down?
Aug 25 16:25:35 <blathijs> It appears so
Aug 25 16:25:36 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: you need that I do others testing (or info) on my Fonera?
Aug 25 16:26:16 <blathijs> I've poked inouk about the wiki, but of course everyone has gone home already...
Aug 25 16:26:23 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Regarding the wizard issue, you mean?
Aug 25 16:27:06 <blathijs> I guess I'll continue debugging the wizard issue tomorrow, now it's time for dinner :-)
Aug 25 16:27:29 <giuseppeg88> ok :-)
Aug 25 16:27:35 <giuseppeg88> good dinner!
Aug 25 16:28:57 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: a last thing: what version of transmission is installed?
Aug 25 16:31:20 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Uh, 1.something. It's mentioned in the "Upgrade transmission" ticket
Aug 25 16:31:30 <blathijs> 1.72 I think
Aug 25 16:31:53 <giuseppeg88> ok thanks
Aug 25 16:33:43 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: once, the version was written in the transmission options (if I remember correctly), but now there is no written
Aug 25 17:28:56 <arcsky> urgano2 on vacation?
Aug 25 18:06:15 <blathijs> arcsky: Dunno, haven't seen him a while
Aug 26 00:10:19 <Tas> hi
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