**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Sep 16 02:59:57 2010
Sep 16 08:19:01 <Barbon> hey
Sep 16 08:19:04 <Barbon> balthijs
Sep 16 08:19:06 <Barbon> you are here?
Sep 16 08:22:14 <blathijs> ey Barbon
Sep 16 08:22:55 <Barbon> hey
Sep 16 08:27:00 <Barbon> i have tryed the bisco soluction
Sep 16 08:27:13 <Barbon> the port forward dont work
Sep 16 08:27:14 <Barbon> :(
Sep 16 08:27:38 <Barbon> i have enabled dmz on my main router to ip 192.168.1.254 (the fonera one)
Sep 16 08:27:50 <Barbon> sorry 192.168.1.253
Sep 16 08:28:02 <Barbon> i tryed to open port to my pc
Sep 16 08:29:15 <Barbon> bisco has tried to verificate
Sep 16 08:29:25 <Barbon> if the ports are realy opened
Sep 16 08:29:32 <Barbon> from my router to fonera
Sep 16 08:29:42 <Barbon> and there are not open
Sep 16 08:29:44 <Barbon> :|
Sep 16 08:32:01 <Barbon> dunno if a firewall problem of my router
Sep 16 08:32:07 <Barbon> DMZ MUST open
Sep 16 08:32:23 <Barbon> the fonera port forward work?
Sep 16 08:32:27 <Barbon> blathijs
Sep 16 08:42:07 <blathijs> Barbon: Can you connect to the WebGUI (https) from the internet?
Sep 16 08:44:54 <Barbon> now no, why?
Sep 16 08:46:03 <Barbon> in the network is setted to 192.168.10.1
Sep 16 08:46:11 <Barbon> (the fonera)
Sep 16 08:46:19 <Barbon> and my pc on 192.168.10.2
Sep 16 08:48:06 <blathijs> Barbon: Hmm, did you enable the WebGUI in Settings -> Firewall -> Applications?
Sep 16 08:48:36 <blathijs> (Trying the webgui is a good way to test of the DMZ is broken or the Fonera port forwarding)
Sep 16 08:49:08 <Barbon> still not, i have to try
Sep 16 08:49:47 <blathijs> Barbon: If you give your ip address / hostname, I can do a portscan from here
Sep 16 08:50:12 <Barbon> i still dont have enabled it, and my fon is off now
Sep 16 08:50:59 <blathijs> ok
Sep 16 08:51:10 <blathijs> But you should try that, to see if the DMZ is working
Sep 16 08:56:13 <Barbon> bisco  has tried with telnet
Sep 16 08:56:20 <Barbon> and is blocked it say
Sep 16 08:57:53 <blathijs> What port did he try? THe one forward to your own PC?
Sep 16 09:07:08 <Barbon> the 80 port
Sep 16 09:08:37 <blathijs> Which is forwared to your PC, right?
Sep 16 09:19:31 <Barbon> y
Sep 16 09:23:06 <blathijs> Then you're testing two things at the same time: The DMZ and the port forward on the Fonera
Sep 16 09:23:40 <voorstad> @ blathijs: <blathijs> voorstad_: Something to try: If you get a prompt, run "killall fonstated": Need to be very fast then. I try
Sep 16 09:23:43 <blathijs> So you should open up the WebGUI port on the Fonera (and preferably test that by plugging in your PC directly into your modem instead of the the Fonera)
Sep 16 09:24:02 <blathijs> Barbon: Then you can test just the DMZ by connecting to the WebGUI port from the internet
Sep 16 09:24:14 <blathijs> voorstad: Ok :-)
Sep 16 09:24:21 <voorstad> Did you re-create my scenario already?
Sep 16 09:24:25 <blathijs> Nope, not yet
Sep 16 09:24:31 <voorstad> ok, np
Sep 16 09:24:53 <voorstad> Just curious if it is only me....
Sep 16 09:26:01 <voorstad> There must be more bridged fonera's, given the numerous negative remarks in the past when bridging was not available.....
Sep 16 11:45:17 <voorstad_> Hi Blathijs, I managed to do a "killall fonstated"
Sep 16 11:45:39 <voorstad_> But after 20 secs or so, same issue again.
Sep 16 11:45:55 <voorstad_> Before, I was able to brosw the GUI and to SSH
Sep 16 12:00:30 <blathijs> ok, so it's not a fonstated issue
Sep 16 12:00:46 <blathijs> Or rather, it is not triggered by a fonstated script
Sep 16 12:05:08 <blathijs> voorstad_: But normal web browsing still works?
Sep 16 12:05:39 <voorstad_> yes
Sep 16 12:05:46 <voorstad_> as we speak.....
Sep 16 12:05:55 <blathijs> ok
Sep 16 12:18:59 <blogic> blathijs: have you tried to reproduce the exact same steps ?
Sep 16 12:21:46 <blathijs> blogic: Not yet
Sep 16 12:22:03 <blathijs> I was reading up on OAUth for the twitter app a bit, that's complicated crap
Sep 16 12:23:39 <blogic> hehe
Sep 16 12:23:42 <blogic> it is indeed
Sep 16 12:23:48 <blogic> if you need help let me know
Sep 16 12:23:58 <blogic> i briefly looked at it aswell
Sep 16 12:24:11 <blathijs> The idea is simple, but the devil is in the details :-)
Sep 16 12:24:54 <blathijs> And I have enough security experience to properly understand it eventually :-)
Sep 16 12:25:19 <blathijs> I even found a lua implementation that we might be able to partially reuse
Sep 16 12:25:43 <blathijs> (Asked for permission to use it just now)
Sep 16 12:27:38 <blathijs> So, lets do this TFTP thing, then
Sep 16 12:28:07 <voorstad_> Ok, great. Let me know if you need any help :-)
Sep 16 12:28:32 <blogic> blathijs: sounds good
Sep 16 12:29:09 <blathijs> Hmm, let's get some lunch first :-)
Sep 16 12:29:42 <blogic> sounds even better
Sep 16 13:05:23 <blathijs> voorstad_: Hmm, I've recreated your setup, and it doesn't seem to break for me here
Sep 16 13:05:41 <voorstad_> mmmm, what exactly did you do?
Sep 16 13:06:21 <blathijs> I flashed the recovery firmware through TFTP, upgraded to 2.3.6.1 DEV, switched to bridge mode (IP 192.168.10.2/24, gateway / dns 192.168.10.1)
Sep 16 13:06:38 <blathijs> then I plugged over my 2.0n from my ADSL modem to the LAN port of the 2.0g
Sep 16 13:06:46 <blathijs> haven't rebooted the 2.0n yet, though
Sep 16 13:06:51 <voorstad_> yup, sounds similar
Sep 16 13:07:02 <voorstad_> which leds are on?
Sep 16 13:07:29 <blathijs> power, wan, one LAN port
Sep 16 13:07:35 <blathijs> no wifi, though
Sep 16 13:07:51 <blathijs> nor USB, though I have a hub plugged in
Sep 16 13:08:15 <voorstad_> It failed with my USB osund card plugged in
Sep 16 13:08:23 <voorstad_> but with Internet
Sep 16 13:08:30 <blathijs> I have an USB soundcard pluggedi n the hub as well
Sep 16 13:08:32 <voorstad_> with = without
Sep 16 13:08:36 <voorstad_> so NO USB
Sep 16 13:08:55 <blathijs> Ah, plugging in an USB stick makes the USB led blink, I guess that's intentional
Sep 16 13:09:16 <voorstad_> My USB doesn;t blink at all anymore
Sep 16 13:09:34 <voorstad_> It used to work....
Sep 16 13:10:23 <voorstad_> power & WAN are green, wifi stays orange. No other leds
Sep 16 13:10:27 <blathijs> Seems MyPlace is not available, but I think that's a known bug (myplace fails after switching to bridge mode, needing a reboot)
Sep 16 13:10:53 <blathijs> Hmm, isn't wifi being orange the normal state?
Sep 16 13:10:54 <voorstad_> I changed it to another name and rebooted several times already
Sep 16 13:11:00 <voorstad_> yes
Sep 16 13:11:14 <voorstad_> well, I don't know
Sep 16 13:11:23 <blathijs> Let's try a reboot
Sep 16 13:11:34 <voorstad_> I haven't got multiple 2.0N's to check
Sep 16 13:12:50 <voorstad_> It's more like a fon museum here: a white orignal, a 2.0g (beta one) and a 2.0n
Sep 16 13:13:02 <blathijs> hehe
Sep 16 13:14:15 <voorstad_> But I guess it would be good to hook the ADSL modem on the internet
Sep 16 13:14:28 <blathijs> e.g., remove the 2.0g you mean?
Sep 16 13:14:46 <blathijs> s/e.g./i.e./
Sep 16 13:14:55 <voorstad_> no, but have internet connection
Sep 16 13:17:04 <blathijs> Then I don't understand :-)
Sep 16 13:19:30 <voorstad_> ok. I have an ADSL modem that gives me internet. On a LAN port, I have hooked a 2.0g.
Sep 16 13:19:53 <voorstad_> on the 2.0g, I have a hub. My 2.0N wan is connected to this hub
Sep 16 13:20:20 <voorstad_> so my browsing goes from 2.0N to 2.0g to ADSL roter
Sep 16 13:21:59 <voorstad_> And my pc is hooked to the 2.0N over wifi
Sep 16 13:22:32 <voorstad_> did you switch on wifi (hardware button on the back to "on")?
Sep 16 13:23:43 <blathijs> No, I didn't switch off wifi
Sep 16 13:23:48 <blathijs> Why would I?
Sep 16 13:23:59 <blathijs> (Also, switching "off" by setting it to "on"? Huh?)
Sep 16 13:24:27 <voorstad_> Because it is said in the instructions for tftp
Sep 16 13:25:00 <blathijs> 15:14:10 < voorstad_> But I guess it would be good to hook the ADSL modem on the internet <-- But with this, you meant connecting the 2.0n to the ADSL modem directly? That's what I meant with "removing the 2.0g", since you remove it from the chain that way.
Sep 16 13:25:30 <blathijs> The tftp instructions say to disable the wireless interface on your own computer, not on the Fonera AFAICS
Sep 16 13:26:30 <blogic> blathijs: indeed
Sep 16 13:32:48 <voorstad> But can you browse the internet over the 2.0n via wifi?
Sep 16 14:15:23 <Tas> hi
Sep 16 14:19:15 <voorstad> He Blathijs, I had an Internet outage
Sep 16 14:19:42 <voorstad> and 2.0N is up for 30 minutes already....!
Sep 16 14:19:47 <voorstad> I just got back online
Sep 16 14:19:53 <voorstad> so let;s see what happens
Sep 16 14:21:53 <voorstad> Blathijs, I guess I know what is causing it
Sep 16 14:22:02 <voorstad> my vpn connection....
Sep 16 14:22:31 <voorstad> as soon as I establish a vpn connection with my pc, I get the error
Sep 16 14:22:44 <voorstad> let's see what happens if I drop the vpn
Sep 16 14:23:03 <voorstad> Yes, that's it!
Sep 16 14:23:28 <blathijs> voorstad: Funky
Sep 16 14:23:37 <blathijs> voorstad: From where to where is this VPN connection made?
Sep 16 14:23:45 <voorstad> When dropping vpn, I can connect again
Sep 16 14:24:03 <voorstad> from my laptop to an external server
Sep 16 14:24:11 <voorstad> so no opnevpn or something in  etween
Sep 16 14:24:32 <blathijs> Is it openvpn or PPTP, or?
Sep 16 14:25:05 <voorstad> IpSec over UDP
Sep 16 14:26:05 <voorstad> Sorry to have taken up your time
Sep 16 14:26:11 <blathijs> What's the IP range of this VPN?
Sep 16 14:27:58 <voorstad> eeehhh
Sep 16 14:28:37 <voorstad> just an external ip
Sep 16 14:28:52 <voorstad> (dont want the world to know)
Sep 16 14:29:01 <blathijs> ok
Sep 16 14:29:14 <blathijs> Do you have a second PC for testing?
Sep 16 14:29:22 <voorstad> yup
Sep 16 14:29:42 <blathijs> if you have this VPN connection on your laptop, does the webgui also break on another system?
Sep 16 14:29:59 <voorstad> I'll have a look
Sep 16 14:34:45 <voorstad> From the other pc, I can still access the GUI....
Sep 16 14:35:01 <voorstad> I should have checked, grmmmbl
Sep 16 14:40:36 <voorstad_> One other issue: my USB soundcard is not recognized anymore
Sep 16 14:40:48 <voorstad_> USB led does not go on,
Sep 16 14:41:04 <voorstad_> Music Plugin says I have no soundcard attached
Sep 16 14:41:56 <voorstad_> Any suggestion/
Sep 16 14:42:37 <blathijs> voorstad_: Could you send a logread after plugging in the sound card?
Sep 16 14:44:06 <voorstad_> http://pastebin.com/0xR8E50B
Sep 16 14:45:35 <blathijs> voorstad_: Hmm, did you _just_ plug it in?
Sep 16 14:45:42 <blathijs> I don't see any reference to new usb devices, really
Sep 16 14:47:43 <voorstad_> ok, I did a logread -f and plugged it in again
Sep 16 14:48:01 <voorstad_> if you refresh the pastbin and look from the logread -f
Sep 16 14:52:28 <voorstad_> found it?
Sep 16 14:52:48 <blathijs> Hmm, doesn't look like the pastebin changed
Sep 16 14:54:00 <voorstad_> (at the bottem)
Sep 16 14:54:31 <voorstad_> ah, i see, when changing pastebin, it changes also the url: http://pastebin.com/wJDsxvSX
Sep 16 14:56:32 <blathijs> sneaky :-)
Sep 16 14:58:53 <blathijs> voorstad_: Any chance you mixed the 2.0n and 2.0g versions of the plugin?
Sep 16 14:59:44 <blathijs> and/or could you check if /lib/modules/2.6.21/snd-usb-audio.ko exists?
Sep 16 15:00:59 <voorstad_> I am reinstalling music_1.6_fonera20n_2.3.0.0_fon.tar.gz to be 100% sure
Sep 16 15:02:09 <voorstad_> yup, that's it
Sep 16 15:02:20 <voorstad_> must have installed a wrong version
Sep 16 15:02:59 <voorstad_> USB led is still off by the way
Sep 16 15:04:18 <voorstad_> By the way, I can only access mp3's connected to a HD on 2.0N? Not the HD on the bridged 2.0g?
Sep 16 15:04:38 <blathijs> Seems the USB led is really the USB storage LED ;-)
Sep 16 15:04:54 <voorstad_> Music plugin says: \\fonera\ , but well, which one huh? :-)
Sep 16 15:05:47 <blathijs> Music plugin only plays local files
Sep 16 15:05:56 <blathijs> the \\fonera is just to remind people where they should upload
Sep 16 15:06:08 <Tas> I'm compiling fon-ng on a virtual machine...Which is the default support jffs or squashfs?
Sep 16 15:06:15 <blathijs> (though with two Fonera's, this samba sharing is a bit flakey)
Sep 16 15:06:41 <blathijs> Tas: Default root filesystem is squashfs (but with a jffs overlay)
Sep 16 15:06:51 <blathijs> Tas: The map problem has been reported to the web team, btw
Sep 16 15:07:01 <Tas> ok thank you :-D
Sep 16 15:09:05 <Tas> so I should compile with squasfs?
Sep 16 15:09:40 <voorstad_> Ok, Blathijs thanks for all the help
Sep 16 15:09:52 <voorstad_> back to 2.3.7.0 and then to MPD ;-)
Sep 16 15:13:07 <voorstad_> Handy Music plugin link for the dutch fonero's: http://content1b.omroep.nl/ab33430a9bba3d397a82cb9f35ff65ad/4c9232cb/portal/OmroepNLdownload/npo-streams.pdf
Sep 16 15:19:33 <blathijs> Tas: Yeah, but that's default, right?
Sep 16 15:21:05 <Tas> yep
Sep 16 15:21:52 <Tas> but I saw jffs on my fonera, so I thought that was wrong
Sep 16 15:22:46 <blathijs> ok :-)
Sep 16 18:11:46 <giuseppeg88> ciao!
Sep 16 18:21:19 <blathijs> ey giuseppeg88
Sep 16 18:23:12 <giuseppeg88> hi blathijs! I saw that these days you have done a lot of changes... Great!
Sep 16 18:24:51 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: I read you're working to build a firmware easier and faster...
Sep 16 18:26:22 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: This will mean that in future there could be more firmware updates?
Sep 16 18:30:11 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: Perhaps, but I'm hoping to get automatic firmware builds from SVN as well, for easy testing
Sep 16 18:36:18 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: this would make more immediate the construction of firmware also from us users?
Sep 16 18:36:28 <giuseppeg88> right?
Sep 16 18:38:46 <blathijs> Uh, how do you mean that?
Sep 16 18:39:24 <blathijs> I mean that we're considering to make builds from trunk svn revisions available on download.fonosfera.org
Sep 16 18:40:45 <giuseppeg88> ahhh. now I understand you
Sep 16 18:59:37 <blogic> blathijs: we can setup a buildbot on veriton i guess
Sep 16 18:59:54 <blathijs> blogic: Yeah, Edu is already working on that
Sep 16 18:59:58 <blogic> oki
Sep 16 19:00:35 <blathijs> blogic: I modified the build system a bit to build the plugins as a part of the normal "make" process to make that work a bit nicer for Veriton as well
Sep 16 19:00:49 <blathijs> blogic: It figures out which packages to put into a plugin automatically now :-)
Sep 16 19:01:53 <blogic> awesome
Sep 16 19:02:30 <blathijs> Something to port to ng2, perhaps? :-)
Sep 16 19:02:39 <blogic> what is ng2 ?
Sep 16 19:02:42 <blogic> never heard of it
Sep 16 19:03:51 <blogic> lol
Sep 16 19:03:52 <blogic> :D
Sep 16 21:12:30 <barbon> blathijs
Sep 16 21:12:34 <barbon> ...
Sep 16 21:12:41 <barbon> i does a noob thing
Sep 16 21:12:43 <barbon> :|
Sep 16 21:12:49 <barbon> i installed firmware upgrade plugin
Sep 16 21:12:51 <barbon> and audioclip
Sep 16 21:12:58 <barbon> executed firmware upgrade
Sep 16 21:13:04 <barbon> and now my fon is briken
Sep 16 21:13:06 <barbon> briked
Sep 16 21:13:08 <barbon> no more wifi
Sep 16 21:13:10 <barbon> :|
Sep 16 21:14:54 <barbon> how to restore fw?
Sep 16 21:18:32 <barbon> blogic?
Sep 16 21:18:34 <barbon> iurgi?
Sep 16 21:18:48 <barbon> for restore fw
Sep 16 21:18:53 <barbon> is the same procedure?
Sep 16 21:22:43 <barbon> wiki fon down
Sep 16 21:22:45 <barbon> ç_ç
Sep 16 21:24:32 <barbon> i need urgent helppp
Sep 16 21:28:57 <barbon> iurgiii
Sep 16 21:29:02 <barbon> blathijs
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