**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Dec 05 02:59:58 2010
Dec 05 15:25:11 <blathijs> nesit-user: You can probably add that to /etc/firewall.fon (IIRC)
Dec 05 18:43:57 <fonuser> hola , hello
Dec 05 18:44:18 <blathijs> ey fonuser
Dec 05 18:44:48 <fonuser> i have a fon 2.0n but this not work good. ( funcion of router wan to lan )
Dec 05 18:44:57 <fonuser> too many dc paket losst
Dec 05 18:45:09 <fonuser> i update but same problem
Dec 05 18:45:30 <blathijs> brb
Dec 05 18:45:54 <fonuser> XD
Dec 05 18:48:33 <blathijs> What's "dc" exactly?
Dec 05 18:49:24 <blathijs> I'm only here for a few moments, though, I'm off again soon.
Dec 05 18:49:57 <blathijs> I can help you debug a bit more tomorrow (in 14 hours or so), when I'm actually working :-)
Dec 05 18:58:31 <fonuser> for example. put my router on wan port ( pc on lan's ports ) configure web for dhcp or static ip. in my pc dhcp. look websites. skype. online games. work. but random lost pakets cancel skype talk. put on onlinegames pakets lost in console
Dec 05 18:59:07 <fonuser> but 0 problem if me use my isp router
Dec 05 19:19:05 <blathijs> fonuser: What makes you say there are lost packets? Did you actually see packets getting lost, or do you assume there are lost packets because you see connections failing?
Dec 05 19:23:20 <fonuser> for example in counter strike source app ( in console ) and game. he freeze and console log say ipofserver, 44-400 lost. but 1-3 sec internet work again. on skype break 100% my calls in web browser i need restart google  crome
Dec 05 19:25:26 <fonuser> ping www.google show 93% good 7% lost.
Dec 05 19:29:06 <blathijs> fonuser: To get at the standard question: Did you try a factory reset?
Dec 05 19:29:42 <fonuser> yea. i put tftp image end user and dev user and same problem. i think is posible my fonera hardware is damage?
Dec 05 19:30:48 <fonuser> strange too. if me rm -r jffs/* try wizard but fail.
Dec 05 19:31:05 <fonuser> skip wizard and normal work
Dec 05 19:32:00 <blathijs> There is a bug in the wizard in 2.3.6.1 I think, perhaps you're seeing that
Dec 05 19:32:02 <fonuser> i think my fonera have a bad flashmemory is posible check mtd in ssh
Dec 05 19:33:08 <blathijs> fonuser: Why do you suspect the flash memory?
Dec 05 19:33:53 <fonuser> realy not have idea. but put fimware and wizard not work and Router "iptables " no work good
Dec 05 19:33:57 <blathijs> fonuser: That ping with lost packets, is that normal ping or flood ping?
Dec 05 19:34:10 <fonuser> normal ping
Dec 05 19:34:33 <blathijs> any chance something is overloading your connection?
Dec 05 19:34:42 <blathijs> e.g., heavy downloading or something?
Dec 05 19:34:46 <fonuser> i read a one fonera have bug whitch 10mb lan's but my isp router is 100
Dec 05 19:35:02 <blathijs> I don't know about that bug, but could be
Dec 05 19:35:09 <fonuser> realy not i'm play games online chat and lite traffic
Dec 05 19:35:27 <fonuser> downloads 20/40min day.
Dec 05 19:35:28 <blathijs> fonuser: Could you try pinging your ISP's modem instead of www.google.com, see if packets get lost then as well?
Dec 05 19:35:54 <blathijs> and perhaps pinging the WAN ip of the Fonera as well?
Dec 05 19:36:34 <fonuser> pings wan ip of fonera is good.
Dec 05 19:37:07 <fonuser> now my fonera is a client of my isp router
Dec 05 19:37:19 <fonuser> my actual lan is isp router XD
Dec 05 19:37:33 <fonuser> for play and use internet whitch no lost pakets
Dec 05 19:37:52 <blathijs> Ah, so you're pinging the fonera WAN ip from the WAN side of the Fonera now
Dec 05 19:38:14 <blathijs> Perhaps you could try moving 1 pc to the LAN side of the Fonera and do some ping tests there
Dec 05 19:38:26 <fonuser> ok
Dec 05 19:38:46 <blathijs> (I'm trying to see if the Fonera is actually dropping these packets, or if they are perhaps dropped somewhere else due to some bad interplay between the Fonera and your ISP's modem or something)
Dec 05 19:41:24 <blathijs> If that still breaks, perhaps you could do a minimal test: Put a PC with a static IP at the WAN port of the Fonera (directly, so without any switch or your ISP modem), give the Fonera static iP as well, and put a second PC at a LAN port of the Fonera
Dec 05 19:41:31 <fonuser> now my laptop is on fonera 2.0n lan and he ping my windows pc and router and fonera.lan
Dec 05 19:41:31 <blathijs> then try to ping the first PC from the second
Dec 05 19:41:57 <blathijs> ok, does that lose packets?
Dec 05 19:42:47 <fonuser> ping laptop to fonera.lan work <1ms
Dec 05 19:43:36 <fonuser> pings laptop to ipof desktop other network <1 - 30ms (omg... )
Dec 05 19:44:05 <fonuser> and router same. <1 - 25-30ms
Dec 05 19:44:15 <fonuser> but now not lost.
Dec 05 19:44:34 <fonuser> is posible fail on low latency apps?
Dec 05 19:45:21 <fonuser> impresive.
Dec 05 19:45:50 <fonuser> y try call skype on my laptop and look what happend
Dec 05 19:46:12 <blathijs> Perhaps, though that doesn't explain why the pings also fail
Dec 05 19:46:34 <fonuser> ok.....
Dec 05 19:46:38 <fonuser> now show lost pakets
Dec 05 19:47:09 <fonuser> i think big traffick of lite pakets is the problem
Dec 05 19:47:14 <fonuser> omg.....
Dec 05 19:47:22 <blathijs> ah, the ping shows packet loss now?
Dec 05 19:47:26 <fonuser> yep
Dec 05 19:47:31 <fonuser> when skype on. on call
Dec 05 19:48:08 <blathijs> is that video call, or just audio?
Dec 05 19:48:15 <fonuser> audio
Dec 05 19:48:53 <fonuser> in counter strike source same problem he move 14K down 9 k upload traffic.....
Dec 05 19:49:04 <blathijs> hm, that really shouldn't bee too much traffic for the Fonera to handle
Dec 05 19:49:10 <fonuser> i have 1mb download
Dec 05 19:50:03 <blathijs> In my testing, the 2.0n should be able to handle 94Mbit and have a latency of around 1ms in your configuration
Dec 05 19:50:05 <fonuser> nah.
Dec 05 19:50:42 <fonuser> fonera 2.0n is ok. in wan interface ( samba work )
Dec 05 19:51:11 <fonuser> can't use wifi and lan ports but work np
Dec 05 19:51:18 <fonuser> he download for me xD
Dec 05 19:51:44 <blathijs> which firmware version are you running? 2.3.6.1?
Dec 05 19:51:48 <fonuser> thx for your time
Dec 05 19:52:38 <blathijs> fonuser: You could also try putting the Fonera in bridge mode, which probably a good idea anyway in your configuration
Dec 05 19:53:19 <blathijs> fonuser: Then it won't be a router, but more like a switch (same IP addresses on WAN and LAN side)
Dec 05 19:53:47 <fonuser> is good idea but who ip put? when bridge
Dec 05 19:54:06 <fonuser> system.fon.firmware=2.3.6
Dec 05 19:54:31 <blathijs> You should pick an IP address that is in the same network as your router, but outside of the DHCP range of your router
Dec 05 19:54:41 <fonuser> Fonera 20n Firmware (v2.3.6.1)
Dec 05 19:54:47 <blathijs> ok, that's the latest
Dec 05 19:55:03 <fonuser> dev mode
Dec 05 19:55:31 <fonuser> is posible use fonera 2.0n as wifi client?
Dec 05 19:55:58 <blathijs> not yet, it should be possible in the next firmware
Dec 05 19:56:09 <fonuser> i read documentation from oepnwrt but i'm lite noob
Dec 05 19:56:47 <fonuser> too many uci commands XD but too many rm -r /jffs XD
Dec 05 19:56:56 <blathijs> OpenWRT docs don't apply completely either
Dec 05 19:57:33 <blathijs> so you won't get wifi client working on your own, you'll have to wait for that I'm afraid
Dec 05 20:00:25 <fonuser> i read dmegs and driver of wifi card is on master compiled i think this is a problem for set fonera in wifi client
Dec 05 20:00:27 <fonuser> but np
Dec 05 20:00:35 <fonuser> is good idea bridged mode
Dec 05 20:02:46 <fonuser> thx for your time. i think good test skype call and all pings on
Dec 05 20:03:11 <fonuser> show my problem whitch info
Dec 05 20:03:17 <blathijs> fonuser: You mean switching to bridge mode helped?
Dec 05 20:03:44 <fonuser> i try
Dec 05 20:04:06 <fonuser> but need d/c lan wan now xD
Dec 05 20:04:20 <blathijs> d/c?
Dec 05 20:12:10 <fonuser> hi again
Dec 05 20:12:18 <fonuser> now me are on bridged mode
Dec 05 20:13:48 <fonuser> fonera have internet good
Dec 05 20:14:12 <fonuser> and me are connected in lan of fonera let's try
Dec 05 20:17:54 <fonuser> omg fuck 93.93.64.205:24000:Dropped 1 packets at 10292 A
Dec 05 20:19:05 <fonuser> . 93.93.64.205:24000:Dropped 46 packets at 15311
Dec 05 20:21:42 <fonuser> 93.93.64.205:24000:Dropped 1 packets at 26519 93.93.64.205:24000:Dropped 1 packets at 26793
Dec 05 20:33:54 <blathijs> still packet loss?
Dec 05 20:36:14 <blathijs> If your problems do persist, you might also want to contact support@fon.com
Dec 05 20:37:00 <blathijs> They might have additional debugging suggestions, or can perhaps send you a new unit if they think it's a hardware failure
Dec 05 20:37:09 <blathijs> (I can't do the latter)
Dec 05 20:37:41 * blathijs is offline again
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