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Dec 23 09:38:14 <giuseppeg88> Problems and proposals about the fonera Simpl: http://forum.fon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=695
Dec 23 10:00:17 <blathijs> blogic: ^^
Dec 23 10:08:59 <giuseppeg88> lol
Dec 23 10:18:30 <barbon> ciao giuseppeg88
Dec 23 10:21:51 <giuseppeg88> hi!
Dec 23 13:50:17 <voorstad> Hi giuseppeg88
Dec 23 13:50:54 <voorstad> What happenned with JazzyJ yesterday on the forum?
Dec 23 13:55:11 <voorstad> As a protest, I have switched off my fonspots today....
Dec 23 13:56:26 <voorstad> "a temporary ban to allow FON to “cool down”
Dec 23 13:57:23 <blathijs> voorstad: What topic was this?
Dec 23 13:57:42 <voorstad> http://forum.fon.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=693
Dec 23 13:59:25 <blathijs> thanks
Dec 23 13:59:27 <blathijs> ging up a dhcp iface, utilize service_kill() in dhcp shutdown.
Dec 23 13:59:35 <blathijs> woops
Dec 23 14:21:08 <voorstad> He Blathijs, how many active fonspots would you guess to online in the Netherlands?
Dec 23 14:21:44 <blathijs> voorstad: Really no clue, actually
Dec 23 14:21:52 <blathijs> I've got three online? :-)
Dec 23 14:22:39 <voorstad> 125 (minus three FONspots I just turned of)
Dec 23 14:52:26 <giuseppeg88> hi voorstad
Dec 23 14:54:25 <voorstad> hi giuseppeg88
Dec 23 14:57:49 <giuseppeg88> voorstad: did you read my post in the forum about fonera simpl?
Dec 23 14:57:57 <voorstad> yes
Dec 23 15:09:55 <voorstad> What about it?
Dec 23 15:35:11 <giuseppeg88> I asked you because if you have other suggestions/problems about Simpl you can write them in this discussion
Dec 23 15:36:55 <voorstad> Ah well, My Simpl is back in it's carton box. Without bridging and wifi-wan connection, it is of no use for me.
Dec 23 15:39:53 <giuseppeg88> idem for me!
Dec 23 15:43:28 <blathijs> Heh, I have two in the drawer right now, but that's just because I haven't had any time to actually play with them yet :-)
Dec 23 15:50:59 <blathijs> Busy with testing wifi-wan on the 2.0g, initial tests seem to be succesful
Dec 23 15:51:53 <voorstad> And does this mean that automatically bridges?
Dec 23 15:52:27 <voorstad> In a secure way?
Dec 23 15:57:21 <blathijs> voorstad: It can't combine wifi-wan and bridge mode, if that's what you're asking
Dec 23 15:57:35 <blathijs> voorstad: And what do you mean with "automatically" and "secure" exactly?
Dec 23 16:05:16 <voorstad> Well, I believe JazzyJ mentioned that bridging the 2.0N caused some security riscs
Dec 23 16:07:44 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: (about wifi-wan) if you want I can help you test this feature...
Dec 23 16:08:40 <voorstad> What is the purpose of a "repeater" (wifi-wan) if you are not bridiging?
Dec 23 16:09:07 <voorstad> It gives you internet, but you cannot use a shared HD, printer, etc.
Dec 23 16:09:18 <voorstad> Or do I understand you incorrectly?
Dec 23 16:09:22 <blathijs> voorstad: Ah, the security issues with bridging haven't been resolved yet. I want to push out my queued changes first before looking at that.
Dec 23 16:09:47 <blathijs> voorstad: And when thinking about it today I also realized that wifi-wan mode would work best when combined with bridging
Dec 23 16:10:07 <blathijs> voorstad: But that's really not implemented right now, so I'm going to leave that for the moment
Dec 23 16:10:59 <voorstad> It is a request from the community for years now... And I think it is one of the reasons why fonero's get disappointed
Dec 23 16:11:50 <voorstad> People were/are willing to install a second wifi spot, even share it with other fonero's
Dec 23 16:11:51 <blathijs> Yeah, I can see its value. But right now, I want to test the stuff I have and push that out, before starting on new features.
Dec 23 16:12:19 <voorstad> But what is the use when you cannot print or get a samba shae on this second access point?
Dec 23 16:22:14 <blathijs> There's still plenty of other stuff that can be useful (using the internet, for example...)
Dec 23 16:22:30 <blathijs> And not all printing or samba usages needs broadcasts, I think
Dec 23 16:26:27 <blathijs> Don't get me wrong: I agree that wifi-wan mode is the most useful when combined with bridge mode. However, I don't agree that it's useless without it.
Dec 23 16:29:09 <voorstad> it is useful if you want a second AP or HotSpot
Dec 23 16:35:20 <giuseppeg88> blathijs: this is true, I agree with you... but I think it's fair to think that this is "perhaps" the last fw for fonera 2.0g  and we have afraid that (after this)  will not be released any firmwares with other new features
Dec 23 16:37:21 <giuseppeg88> (obviously this is my thought/fear)
Dec 23 16:46:47 <blathijs> giuseppeg88: I don't expect that to be the case, since I'm trying hard to unify the 2.0g and 2.0n firmwares again
Dec 23 16:47:19 <blathijs> I can't promise anything, but I do intend to keep releasing firmwares for both 2.0g and 2.0n (and perhaps we'll merge in the SIMPL firmware as well)
Dec 23 16:49:52 <giuseppeg88> this is a good news. I hope you can in this...
Dec 23 16:52:19 <blathijs> "in this" ?
Dec 23 16:54:09 <giuseppeg88> mmm sorry my bad english: this = the hard work of unify the 2.0g and 2.0n
Dec 23 16:55:17 <blathijs> But I don't understand your use of the word "in" :-)
Dec 23 16:56:11 <giuseppeg88> The correct sentence is: I hope you can do it
Dec 23 16:56:40 <blathijs> :-)
Dec 23 16:56:43 <blathijs> Me too :-)
Dec 23 16:56:46 <blathijs> But first: dinner!
Dec 23 16:58:21 <giuseppeg88> good dinner!
Dec 24 01:17:32 <JazzyJ> OK, So i went a tad mental :) ... but still..
Dec 24 01:19:49 <JazzyJ> I can't give examples cause all it get is "You have been permanently banned from this board."
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Dec 24 02:07:14 <JazzyJ> I keep getting banned :)
Dec 24 02:08:05 <JazzyJ> Banning my ip address,.. Really? You know the thing you offering :)
Dec 24 02:10:24 <JazzyJ> You have some fircking geniuses working there!
Dec 24 02:13:05 <JazzyJ> !inspirational! If I had a gun and a boat id shoot you!
Dec 24 02:25:16 <JazzyJ_> Just wanted to say !"I don't have a gun or a boat
Dec 24 02:25:20 <JazzyJ_> "!
Dec 24 02:26:13 <JazzyJ_> And I wouldn;t :)
Dec 24 02:29:31 <JazzyJ_> "family guy reference" kinda worrying if you take it literally.. sorry.
Dec 24 02:29:56 <JazzyJ_> :)
Dec 24 02:50:53 <JazzyJ> where are you topics on no security!? Seriously... You guys could get so fucked with that.......... You have no security!
Dec 24 02:52:11 <JazzyJ> Yeah it's a serious issue....You are selling as product hackers could.. they have an easy out..
Dec 24 02:52:27 <JazzyJ> wake up
Dec 24 02:53:28 <JazzyJ> fonera = "pathetic"
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