**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed May 11 02:59:58 2011 May 11 13:49:54 hi foneros, do you know if there is a solution to change the Simpl firmware without serial cable? May 11 13:57:48 Hmm, haven't tried that yet... May 11 14:29:14 thanks for the reply, in fact i try to run wake on wan but my box loses the ARP table after 2 minutes, i need to use the Simpl to bypass that problem with ssh for example May 11 14:29:31 Wake on wan runs ok until 2 minutes after a shutdown, but after 2 minutes ARP table is empty and my PC does not wake :-\ May 11 14:31:59 Running SSH on the SIMPL will be a challenge, even if you can get a custom firmware on it May 11 14:32:38 It only has 2MB flash, that's why no SSH access is offered in the official firmwares (it just doesn't fit) May 11 14:33:48 But I don't quite understand what your ARP problem is, though. AFAIK you don't need an ARP table to use WOL (there is no IP stack active when the box is turned off anyway) May 11 14:52:06 it seems the box loses some kind of data after few minutes, some folks are talking in forums about erased ARP tables, but if you think about anything else, let me know ;) May 11 14:52:12 do you know if it's possible to use this Simpl telnet hack to get the wol package in the router? https://sites.google.com/site/hottunalabs/home/fonera-simpl-hacking May 11 15:04:49 Mumblefoot: How are you trying to WOL right now? May 11 15:05:15 If the powered-off box stops responding to WOL packets, I don't see how sending them from the SIMPL would help May 11 15:06:03 AFAIK a WOL packet is just the MAC address of the powered-off concatenated 6 times anywhere in any packet, so I don't think there's any ARP involved May 11 15:06:40 I do know that for some network cards, you'll have to turn on WOL both in the BIOS as well as in the Windows device settings (to prevent Windows from putting the device to sleep at shutdown or something) May 11 15:49:27 wow is working via just my box and port forwarding during 2 minutes after the shutdown, so magic packet is well received via the network card (bios and network card seems ok during these 2mns), but past 2 minutes wow does not work anymore and I must manually turn on my PC May 11 15:49:32 the light on network card is always on but it does not react when i send the magic packet May 11 15:51:47 it seems someone is bypassing that 2mn pb of his box with his router: http://www.christophesperandio.fr/archives/386 May 11 15:56:55 Mumblefoot: Ah, now I see May 11 15:57:21 Usually, you use WOL by sending a broadcast packet on the local network May 11 15:57:35 but since you're not on the local network, you're using porforwarding to send a unicast packet May 11 15:58:17 and indeed, that means the the SIMPL will use its ARP table to lookup the MAC address of the powered-off box so it can send the packet May 11 15:59:07 and indeed, having SSH or a wol module on the SIMPL would solve that problem, since then the SIMPL can just send a broadcast packet over the LAN May 11 15:59:40 But I'm not sure if the article you linked manages to get a new firmware on the SIMPL without soldering the serial pins May 11 15:59:52 Also, I'm not sure if the new firmware contains an SSH server May 11 16:08:43 your interpretation seem coherent, you seem to understand what's going on with my network ;) May 11 16:08:48 i have tried to enter the broadcast adress 192.168.10.255 in the fonera port forward, but the router don't recognized it and display an error like: Not a normal IP May 11 16:09:01 I have tried to enter the broadcast on the box only without the Simpl, box accepts the broadcast but the magic packet now does not reach the PC, wake doesn not occur May 11 16:09:59 I think the article refers to Fonera or Fonera+, sadly not the Simpl :( i wonder if it will work with a firmware of the fonera+ on the Simpl? May 11 16:10:08 I tried to connect SSH and Telnet on 192.168.10.1 but that does not seem to work (connection refused) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu May 12 02:59:58 2011