**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Jul 27 02:59:58 2013 Jul 27 10:04:13 hello, long time no see XD Jul 27 10:06:33 so, I've been playing with the torrent client software a bit, but I noticed the router becomes very unstable when downloading big torrents (>1GB). I've looked at the cpu load, but this doesn't seem to cause it. Any idea what could cause this? Jul 27 10:06:44 and how to solve it, if possible? Jul 27 10:07:56 Bitbored: Unstable in what sense? Jul 27 10:10:12 the network connections drop out Jul 27 10:10:39 my gguess is that the NIC of the router can't keep up Jul 27 10:12:13 I first thought the cause to be the routers CPU, but using TOP over ssh, the CPU seems to be able to handle the load Jul 27 10:12:34 I've already tried formatting my USB drive to ext3 Jul 27 10:12:52 CPU load is usually a problem with multiple torrents Jul 27 10:13:02 What did you have before? Jul 27 10:13:16 what do you mean? Jul 27 10:14:42 I meant that usually problems with torrents are CPU related, so it's surprising that your CPU load is not too high. Perhaps there is something else happening then Jul 27 10:15:03 And I was wondering what FS you were using before? NTFS is known to cause problems with CPU load Jul 27 10:15:27 i guess fat32 and ntfs Jul 27 10:15:44 it's a thumb drive, I haven't tried a HDD yet... Jul 27 10:16:02 and I guess that won't be verry succesfull Jul 27 10:16:22 And when you say network connections drop out, do they actually disconnect, or are there delays in the connectoins because packets are dropped? Jul 27 10:17:09 Ah, thumb drives are also not recommended, mostly because torrenting to flash will wear out the flash quickly. I guess the limited speed of Flash drives might also be a problem Jul 27 10:17:36 mhh, not sure.. i'm going to do some more tests Jul 27 10:18:26 I don't really care about the lifespan of my thumbdrive.. they are dirt cheap (and the one I'm using is one I got for free) Jul 27 10:19:02 good brand though, so I'm pretty sure there is no nasty stuff going on in the thumb drive Jul 27 10:19:09 what FS do you reccomend? Jul 27 10:19:16 Yeah, neither of those drawbacks of Flash drives should affect your network connectoins, normally Jul 27 10:20:28 Either ext2 or FAT32. NTFS needs a lot of CPU power and ext3 uses journalling, which makes things even slower on a flash drive Jul 27 10:23:38 gonna try again with fat32, downloading a file of 739M (I want to use a legal torrent, so I can save the screenshots XD) Jul 27 10:34:33 aha, there seem to be multiple processes for transmission Jul 27 10:34:57 one of them using ~40% Jul 27 10:35:12 the others ~18% cpu Jul 27 10:35:28 euh, no, thats memory Jul 27 10:35:47 Bitbored: The downside of fat32 is that files are limited to 2GB IIRC Jul 27 10:38:27 I know. atm. I'm just testing, but on the long run I want to switch to ext3 or ntfs with a HDD Jul 27 10:39:16 but I think the download speed of the torrent might be more of problem than the size Jul 27 10:39:44 now I'm download ing at only 1.6 MB/s, and everything seems to be ok Jul 27 10:54:10 I'd still not recommend NTFS, even on a HDD because of the CPU load Jul 27 10:58:13 It seems like it's indeed caused by the FS. I didn't know ext3 had journalling :s Jul 27 10:58:46 I'm now searching for a torrent that has a verry high bandwidth Jul 27 10:59:03 but I'm afread I'm going to have to download a 'gray' torrent Jul 27 10:59:46 Bitbored: If you find one, please send me the link in a query. I'll see if I can reproduce the problem next week Jul 27 11:01:18 also, sometimes the torrent menu in Lucid doesn't want to load completely Jul 27 11:01:41 so the 'transmission web GUI' button doesn't show Jul 27 11:04:06 I think that happens when Transmission isn't running when it should (i.e. it crashed or failed to start or something) Jul 27 11:06:57 yeah, that could explain why the web GUI doesn't load when I'm trying to acces it directly Jul 27 11:07:27 anyhow, I couldn't reproduce the problem I had last time Jul 27 11:08:00 I'm starting to doubt my previous test results Jul 27 11:08:15 It's working as expected now? Jul 27 11:08:48 I think I just got a torrent with such a high bandwith, that my inernet connection got overloaded, not the router Jul 27 11:08:53 yes, seems so Jul 27 11:09:23 I'm going to look at the cpu load when using ntfs now Jul 27 11:09:29 Perhaps the problem is triggered by something else than bandwidth, something inside the torrent or something Jul 27 11:09:43 ? like what? Jul 27 11:14:40 I plugged in a ntfs formatted HDD, and lucid and the ssh connection went down Jul 27 11:14:46 I think I got the problem XD Jul 27 11:15:53 I confused the symptoms when using a NTFS drive withe the symptons of a overloaded internet connection Jul 27 11:22:00 I'm going to test with a HDD formatted as ext2 later Jul 27 11:22:53 also, do you now if there are any free GPIO ports on the fonera 2.0n? Jul 27 11:38:10 yeah, ntfs-3g is using 53% cpu... Sorry to bother you, I misinterpeted my test results XD **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sun Jul 28 02:59:58 2013