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Jun 25 14:10:25 <panicking> hi all
Jun 25 14:10:26 <panicking> :)
Jun 25 14:30:42 <solarw> panicking, hi!
Jun 25 14:31:41 <panicking> Hi put new commints in my repository, but I have a work with the freerunner and I must use
Jun 25 14:31:51 <panicking> another interface not android
Jun 25 14:36:39 <solarw> panicking, can i build image from your repo&
Jun 25 14:36:42 <solarw> ?
Jun 25 14:37:13 <panicking> repo init -u git://git.moko.serdar-dere.net/cupcake/manifest.git -b cupcake
Jun 25 14:37:25 <panicking> You create a cupcake version
Jun 25 14:37:52 <solarw> panicking, i tried to build cupcake from koolu repo
Jun 25 14:37:55 <solarw> and it's fails
Jun 25 14:39:07 <solarw> i'll try your  repo
Jun 25 14:50:08 <panicking> It use the koolu installer
Jun 25 14:50:10 <panicking> now
Jun 25 15:38:44 <serdar> hi
Jun 25 17:21:59 <panicking> serdar, I do some updates on the repositoty
Jun 25 17:22:06 <panicking> fix x86_64 compilation
Jun 25 17:22:15 <panicking> and some minor stuff
Jun 25 17:22:19 <serdar> hi
Jun 25 17:22:32 <serdar> nice
Jun 25 17:23:13 <serdar> panicking, do I need to research the sources to understand android core programming, or is there some documentation?
Jun 25 17:23:25 <serdar> I want to help, but I don't know how
Jun 25 17:23:31 <panicking> serdar, I use the source
Jun 25 17:23:38 <panicking> but you can help me
Jun 25 17:23:51 <serdar> how?
Jun 25 17:25:31 <panicking> Ok,
Jun 25 17:25:55 <panicking> first of all, testing and reporting can be a good start of point, and how to reproduce
Jun 25 17:26:01 <panicking> and we can start to fix
Jun 25 17:26:03 <panicking> wifi
Jun 25 17:26:08 <panicking> the first problem
Jun 25 17:26:32 <panicking> and for example I don't know how to use the koolu installer
Jun 25 17:26:37 <panicking> I prefer my old method
Jun 25 17:28:40 <panicking> I think that we must help koolu people too
Jun 25 17:28:52 <panicking> to use our code when possible
Jun 25 17:29:27 <serdar> testing and report is not the problem, but reporting whom?
Jun 25 17:29:35 <serdar> you are not here
Jun 25 17:29:51 <serdar> and when you came back I guess we forget everything
Jun 25 17:30:07 <serdar> brb!
Jun 25 17:34:08 <serdar_> sorry
Jun 25 17:34:10 <serdar_> re
Jun 25 17:41:42 <panicking> :)
Jun 25 17:42:04 <panicking> I'm here. The best thing is an email to my account and I'll check. Yes I need time
Jun 25 17:42:39 <panicking> I looking in a lot of code and i'm very busy, but I can help to debug the code
Jun 25 17:42:44 <panicking> and find some solution
Jun 25 17:43:02 <panicking> The problem here is that we need a little comunity of 5 programmers that helo
Jun 25 17:43:08 <panicking> help the project
Jun 25 17:44:30 <solarw> panicking, what about are you talking?
Jun 25 17:45:02 <panicking> Ok, I think that to have a stable version
Jun 25 17:45:10 <panicking> in 3-4 weeks cupcake
Jun 25 17:45:20 <panicking> we need 4-5 programmers
Jun 25 17:45:27 <panicking> :)
Jun 25 17:45:42 <panicking> The big things are:
Jun 25 17:45:45 <panicking> - wifi
Jun 25 17:45:49 <panicking> - varius crash
Jun 25 17:45:58 <panicking> - bluetooth I don't test
Jun 25 17:46:07 <panicking> - gprs and problem releated
Jun 25 17:46:22 <panicking> - sensors rotation
Jun 25 17:46:26 <panicking> very slowly
Jun 25 17:46:54 <solarw> panicking, and what need to do?
Jun 25 17:47:22 <panicking> wifi basically do some test using the wpa_supplicant
Jun 25 17:47:23 <solarw> testing?
Jun 25 17:47:30 <solarw> ok
Jun 25 17:47:35 <solarw> i have wifi at home
Jun 25 17:47:36 <panicking> and try some command line
Jun 25 17:47:49 <panicking> command
Jun 25 17:48:20 <panicking> The problem is that now I have a work with the freerunnner and I can't flash android
Jun 25 17:48:24 <panicking> for 7 days
Jun 25 17:48:49 <panicking> serdar_, do you have the possibility to create
Jun 25 17:49:01 <panicking> a little mailing list to talk about the version on your repository
Jun 25 17:49:13 <panicking> So I can answer to that build
Jun 25 17:49:27 <panicking> because when people ask somenthing I don't know the version
Jun 25 17:49:29 <panicking> the filesystme
Jun 25 17:49:34 <panicking> and other things
Jun 25 17:49:46 <panicking> I can't create
Jun 25 17:49:51 <solarw> o
Jun 25 17:49:57 <panicking> because my server is a little ixp425
Jun 25 17:50:02 <solarw> panicking, have you any idea about home button&
Jun 25 17:50:03 <solarw> ?
Jun 25 17:50:14 <solarw> i tested android images
Jun 25 17:50:34 <panicking> The home is up and left black botton
Jun 25 17:50:48 <solarw> but this button is back button&
Jun 25 17:50:50 <solarw> ?
Jun 25 17:51:11 <panicking> It can be configured
Jun 25 17:51:16 <panicking> using graphics interface
Jun 25 17:51:21 <panicking> I thing
Jun 25 17:51:23 <solarw> i suppose that it need to be back and home button
Jun 25 17:51:24 <panicking> the beahvior
Jun 25 17:51:40 <solarw> it's need to show desktop
Jun 25 17:51:49 <solarw> and navigate back  in applications
Jun 25 17:51:51 <panicking> ok
Jun 25 17:51:56 <panicking> and what is the problem
Jun 25 17:51:57 <panicking> ?
Jun 25 17:52:10 <solarw> neo has power and aux buttons
Jun 25 17:52:26 <solarw> power is used for menu, suspend and poweroff
Jun 25 17:52:31 <panicking> ok
Jun 25 17:52:32 <panicking> I know
Jun 25 17:52:37 <panicking> and aux is usend for back
Jun 25 17:52:39 <solarw> aux as i suppose is used for back
Jun 25 17:52:40 <panicking> and go home
Jun 25 17:52:46 <solarw> go home is timed&
Jun 25 17:52:47 <solarw> ?
Jun 25 17:53:06 <solarw> because i used it only for back navigation
Jun 25 17:53:22 <solarw> and may be just don't know about full functionality of this button
Jun 25 17:54:05 <panicking> Ok, I don't have an android flashed version but I can go to the code,
Jun 25 17:54:18 <panicking> I prefer to have a little mailing list so we can discuss
Jun 25 17:54:26 <panicking> about problem
Jun 25 17:54:38 <panicking> of the version
Jun 25 17:54:43 <panicking> serdar_, is it possible>
Jun 25 17:54:44 <panicking> ?
Jun 25 17:55:16 <panicking> I can help if you want
Jun 25 17:55:24 <serdar_> okay we sorry, I was afk
Jun 25 17:55:45 <serdar_> a mailing list?
Jun 25 17:56:12 <panicking> http://en.gentoo-wiki.com/wiki/Sympa_Mailing_List_Server
Jun 25 17:57:14 <serdar_> hmm that's bad
Jun 25 17:57:28 <serdar_> I don't have mysql
Jun 25 17:57:41 <serdar_> because mysql is a monster
Jun 25 17:57:55 <panicking> ok
Jun 25 17:58:00 <panicking> The majordomo
Jun 25 17:58:02 <panicking> system
Jun 25 17:58:04 <serdar_> I am useing postgresql
Jun 25 17:58:08 <panicking> I don't find documentation
Jun 25 17:58:31 <serdar_> we can use everything which is supporting postgres
Jun 25 17:59:56 <panicking> I think that majordomo don't used anything
Jun 25 17:59:58 <panicking> just mail
Jun 25 18:00:48 <panicking> http://www.linux.org/docs/ldp/howto/Majordomo-MajorCool-HOWTO/x253.html
Jun 25 18:00:55 <solarw> panicking, what abput trac?
Jun 25 18:01:05 <solarw> about
Jun 25 18:01:21 <panicking> trac is good but I don't know how to configure it
Jun 25 18:01:27 <serdar_> what's that MAjordomo is from 2000
Jun 25 18:01:29 <panicking> and we need a mailing list too for me
Jun 25 18:01:34 <serdar_> and the dev is prealpha
Jun 25 18:02:09 <panicking> solarw, do you know how to configure majordomo and trac
Jun 25 18:02:10 <panicking> ?
Jun 25 18:02:36 <serdar_> error: external/qemu/: platform/external/qemu checkout 25a454b91a44be193abda6de27404603a5763f9a
Jun 25 18:02:37 <solarw> about majordomo i know nothing)
Jun 25 18:02:40 <serdar_> can't sync
Jun 25 18:07:12 <panicking> I change the manifest
Jun 25 18:07:16 <panicking> I sync right now
Jun 25 18:07:29 <serdar_> error: You have local changes to 'Makefile.android'; cannot switch branches.
Jun 25 18:07:35 <serdar_> hm
Jun 25 18:07:40 <panicking> Is ok
Jun 25 18:07:48 <panicking> I apply your change
Jun 25 18:07:54 <panicking> checkout the original file
Jun 25 18:07:56 <panicking> and repo sync
Jun 25 18:07:58 <panicking> again
Jun 25 18:08:07 <panicking> cd external/qemu
Jun 25 18:08:18 <panicking> git checkout Makefile.android
Jun 25 18:08:24 <panicking> and then repo sync again
Jun 25 18:09:53 <serdar_> done
Jun 25 18:12:52 <panicking> We can talk again tomorrow about mailing list, I'll take a look to ecartis
Jun 25 18:12:54 <panicking> too
Jun 25 18:12:58 <panicking> see you tomorrow
Jun 25 18:14:30 <serdar_> see you panicking
Jun 25 18:31:13 <sanvy> hi all
Jun 25 18:32:06 <sanvy> I'm trying to compile an ibrid version of android :P
Jun 25 18:32:37 <sanvy> but i've some problem with git...
Jun 25 18:33:09 <sanvy> could anyone help me?
Jun 25 18:33:12 <sanvy> plz
Jun 25 18:56:58 <sanvy> :D
Jun 25 19:01:16 <serdar_> what version?
Jun 25 19:02:58 <sanvy> koolu b7 and android -i think it's the same of  git- firmware 1.5
Jun 25 19:03:10 <sanvy> -do you confirm that git are 1.5?-
Jun 25 19:19:07 <sanvy> sorry, i have to go
Jun 25 19:19:10 <sanvy> :D thanks lot
Jun 25 19:19:12 <sanvy> bye
Jun 25 19:29:21 <Gnutoo> hi, is there a 100% free(as in freedom) android 1.5 image for testing on my freeruner ? are 1.5 image stable now?
Jun 25 19:29:34 <Gnutoo> I don't want skype or similar thing in the rootfs...
Jun 25 19:51:51 <serdar_> we are working on it
Jun 25 19:52:33 <serdar_> repo init -u git://git.moko.serdar-dere.net/cupcake/manifest.git -b cupcake
Jun 25 21:03:10 <Gnutoo> serdar_, ok thanks...you mean for cupcake or for the freedom when you say that you are working on it?
Jun 25 22:00:28 <Gnutoo> hi, I've a build problem: http://www.pastebin.ca/1474749
Jun 25 22:44:19 <serdar__> Gnutoo, there? did you get what O wrote 3h ago?
Jun 25 22:44:33 <Gnutoo> yes
Jun 25 22:44:50 <Gnutoo> I'll clone your git
Jun 25 22:45:05 <Gnutoo> but I wanted to see how the SDK looked like
Jun 25 22:45:21 <Gnutoo> so before comming here I tried compiling the SDK
Jun 25 22:45:26 <Gnutoo> and my error comes from there
Jun 25 22:47:01 <Gnutoo> cloned but is there a howto to switch to your repo now that it's cloned
Jun 25 22:47:01 <Gnutoo> ?
Jun 25 22:55:25 <serdar__> you cloned my repo or something else?
Jun 25 22:55:36 <serdar__> and it's panickings repo
Jun 25 22:55:46 <serdar__> I am only hosting it
Jun 25 22:56:14 <Gnutoo> ok
Jun 25 22:56:25 <Gnutoo> before comming here I cloned the official repo
Jun 25 22:56:34 <Gnutoo> then I had the build error
Jun 25 22:56:37 <serdar__> I see
Jun 25 22:56:41 <serdar__> yes
Jun 25 22:56:45 <Gnutoo> then I just cloned your repo
Jun 25 22:56:51 <Gnutoo> but maybe in the wrong dir
Jun 25 22:56:54 <serdar__> you want to build that for freerunner right?
Jun 25 22:56:57 <Gnutoo> yes
Jun 25 22:57:24 <serdar__> you can't build 1.5 without the koolu build system for fr
Jun 25 22:57:32 <Gnutoo> ok
Jun 25 22:57:59 <serdar__> after cloneing my repo via repo you should switch in it
Jun 25 22:58:14 <serdar__> and use make TARGET_PRODUCTS="Freerunner"
Jun 25 22:58:22 <Gnutoo> ok thanks
Jun 25 22:58:43 <Gnutoo> how do I switch in it...is there a howto so I don't bother you asking stupid questions?
Jun 25 22:58:57 <serdar__> cd
Jun 25 22:59:10 <serdar__> cd myand for example
Jun 25 22:59:41 <serdar__> http://trac.koolu.org/
Jun 25 22:59:44 <serdar__> the same way
Jun 25 22:59:56 <serdar__> maybe I should try a trac too
Jun 25 23:00:09 <Gnutoo> ok
Jun 25 23:00:47 <serdar__> if you got problems, you may ask here
Jun 25 23:03:54 <Gnutoo> ok thanks a lot
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