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Jul 28 09:27:43 <panicking> Hi all
Jul 28 09:37:18 <panicking> soul9,
Jul 28 09:37:19 <panicking> hi
Jul 28 09:37:24 <panicking> do you have any new
Jul 28 09:37:25 <panicking> s
Jul 28 09:37:32 <panicking> I have a pretty good version now
Jul 28 11:21:18 <Meomer> now i'm torn, i'd love to help with android, but it's somehow easier to get into the linux distro's to help
Jul 28 11:21:33 <Meomer> since the fields being worked on at the moment seem to be rather low-level
Jul 28 12:32:52 <panicking> ok
Jul 28 12:32:55 <panicking> thats great
Jul 28 12:33:02 <panicking> do you have a bluetooth
Jul 28 12:33:02 <panicking> handset
Jul 28 12:33:03 <panicking> ?
Jul 28 13:05:04 <stongo> hello
Jul 28 13:08:11 <stongo> has anyone figured out how to get rid of the "sdcard has been removed" error in panicking's cupcake snapshots?
Jul 28 13:41:54 <drac> Hi community
Jul 28 13:42:16 <drac> need some help to get video player working
Jul 28 13:43:30 <drac> I have all audio working
Jul 28 13:43:37 <drac> properly on the sdcard
Jul 28 13:43:47 <drac> while if I try apidemos
Jul 28 13:44:01 <drac> for a 3gp file
Jul 28 13:44:21 <drac> java complains about setDataSource
Jul 28 13:44:28 <drac> with io exception
Jul 28 13:45:04 <drac> i really specified the path (hardcoded) in the java class
Jul 28 13:45:11 <drac> before compiling
Jul 28 13:45:48 <drac> Please help :( :(
Jul 28 15:22:22 <panicking> soul9, do you see the email
Jul 28 15:22:25 <panicking> on the mailing list
Jul 28 15:22:28 <panicking> about the fix
Jul 28 15:31:02 <soul9> panicking: thanks
Jul 28 15:33:56 <soul9> er, i'm not sure which one it is..
Jul 28 15:35:31 <panicking> There is an entry in the blog
Jul 28 15:40:05 <soul9> i'm not really finding what blog you are talking about. i'm not sure i understand, this is a fix for what?
Jul 28 15:42:15 <panicking> http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/comments.php?y=09&m=07&entry=entry090728-161100
Jul 28 15:43:30 <soul9> ahh, this is for creating the sdcard right?
Jul 28 15:43:53 <soul9> so you need to mount rootfs rw, and then android will create /sdcard automatically?
Jul 28 16:05:00 <panicking> and other directory
Jul 28 16:05:02 <panicking> in the middle
Jul 28 16:07:01 <soul9> so..Jonathan Ernst wrote down the main problems with this image. any resoltions to that?
Jul 28 16:08:18 <panicking> so that go standby during the call
Jul 28 16:08:19 <panicking> ?
Jul 28 16:09:11 <soul9> hmm, you want me to test if the phone goes into standby during a call?
Jul 28 16:09:18 * soul9 calls his voicemail ;)
Jul 28 16:09:34 <panicking> No, I know the problem
Jul 28 16:09:43 <panicking> It's the correct behavior
Jul 28 16:09:44 <soul9> oh
Jul 28 16:09:49 <soul9> it is?!
Jul 28 16:09:52 <soul9> why?
Jul 28 16:10:08 <panicking> the problem is the audio
Jul 28 16:10:16 <panicking> it must remain on
Jul 28 16:10:39 <soul9> ah, so the phone can go and suspend itself while the audio+gsm is still on?
Jul 28 16:10:47 <soul9> ok, gotcha, that's pretty damn nice imo :)
Jul 28 16:10:55 <soul9> but then, how do you hang up?
Jul 28 16:11:02 <soul9> you need to resume to hang up :(
Jul 28 16:11:07 <soul9> that seems kind of a pita
Jul 28 16:12:06 <serdar_> hi
Jul 28 16:12:41 <panicking> yes
Jul 28 16:12:48 <panicking> this can be a problem
Jul 28 16:12:58 <panicking> but think about an hour of conversation
Jul 28 16:13:04 <soul9> hehe
Jul 28 16:13:08 <soul9> yeah, definitely
Jul 28 16:13:22 <serdar_> my moko is finished and back to home
Jul 28 16:13:29 <soul9> nice
Jul 28 16:14:08 <serdar_> panicking, did you tried the repository?
Jul 28 16:14:32 <serdar_> btw. is it possible to clean the code, I mean to get rid of things which we don't need
Jul 28 16:16:39 <panicking> No yet now, I'm working for a demo using freerunner
Jul 28 16:16:44 <panicking> The last thing to do
Jul 28 16:16:50 <panicking> is call problem
Jul 28 16:16:53 <panicking> suspend during call
Jul 28 16:17:09 <serdar_> huh
Jul 28 16:17:12 <serdar_> that's really bad
Jul 28 16:17:35 <serdar_> btw did you see this video? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yr821OgnvYc
Jul 28 16:17:42 <soul9> ¬ it's not, imagine, this way you can't have a long conversation since the freerunner's battery is so small
Jul 28 16:20:14 <serdar_> hmm
Jul 28 16:20:30 <serdar_> if it's posible to make call while suspending, than it's okay
Jul 28 16:20:36 <serdar_> I mean speaking
Jul 28 16:20:51 <soul9> yeah, that's what panicking is saying
Jul 28 16:24:52 <serdar_> hmm
Jul 28 16:26:35 <soul9> panicking: at least the speaker (voicemail, so i didn't test the microphone) seems to work while suspended
Jul 28 16:27:29 <panicking> for now I change the framwork
Jul 28 16:27:36 <panicking> to switch off only the display
Jul 28 16:27:44 <panicking> but better thing is to suspend the mobile
Jul 28 16:27:46 <soul9> o
Jul 28 16:27:49 <panicking> I'm uplodading a video
Jul 28 16:27:52 <panicking> on youtube
Jul 28 16:27:56 <soul9> ☺
Jul 28 16:27:58 <panicking> with the latest cupcake
Jul 28 16:28:06 <serdar_> did you see the video what I sent?
Jul 28 16:28:12 <serdar_> with gentoo?
Jul 28 16:28:48 <panicking> yes
Jul 28 16:28:49 <panicking> nice
Jul 28 16:28:56 <panicking> but only the rotation
Jul 28 16:28:57 <panicking> because
Jul 28 16:28:59 <panicking> use the Xorg
Jul 28 16:29:01 <panicking> feature
Jul 28 16:29:09 <panicking> I'm hope in glamo driver
Jul 28 16:29:10 <soul9> it's really fast tho
Jul 28 16:29:17 <panicking> that use glamo to do the rotation
Jul 28 16:29:26 <soul9> much faster than in current shr or anything
Jul 28 16:29:26 <panicking> I  have a video
Jul 28 16:29:30 <panicking> yes
Jul 28 16:29:31 <panicking> I see
Jul 28 16:29:52 <panicking> But that is an shr
Jul 28 16:29:56 <panicking> distribuition
Jul 28 16:30:01 <panicking> maybe has some prelinking
Jul 28 16:30:04 <panicking> on shared object
Jul 28 16:30:06 <soul9> what is? no it's not.
Jul 28 16:30:15 <soul9> it's qtextended on the freerunner
Jul 28 16:30:20 <serdar_> gentoo can use shr framework
Jul 28 16:30:23 <soul9> and so i'm not sure they do use xorg
Jul 28 16:30:26 <soul9> it can
Jul 28 16:30:38 <soul9> it can use any of the many frameworks, because gentoo rocks ;)
Jul 28 16:30:40 <serdar_> qtextended is useing frambuffer
Jul 28 16:30:50 <soul9> that's what i'm saying
Jul 28 16:31:26 * soul9 off to do some shopping, bbl
Jul 28 16:31:26 <panicking> ah
Jul 28 16:31:27 <panicking> nice
Jul 28 16:44:36 <panicking> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=od9QHev8kp4
Jul 28 16:56:48 <soul9> man, share those builds ;)
Jul 28 16:56:54 <soul9> i see you have wifi working too
Jul 28 16:59:55 <panicking> uImage-v22.bin
Jul 28 17:00:02 <panicking> and frerunner-v12.jffs2
Jul 28 17:00:12 <soul9> heh, how did you connect to the wifi?
Jul 28 17:00:23 <panicking> using graphic
Jul 28 17:00:25 <panicking> application
Jul 28 17:00:37 <soul9> oh, but not settings → wireless?
Jul 28 17:03:58 <panicking> yes
Jul 28 17:04:02 <panicking> I use that on my net
Jul 28 17:04:41 <soul9> weird
Jul 28 17:05:03 <soul9> so why is this not working for me and others, and working for you? :-(
Jul 28 17:06:30 <panicking> But It crash
Jul 28 17:06:32 <panicking> ?
Jul 28 17:06:38 <panicking> or you can't see the wifi connection
Jul 28 17:06:58 <soul9> it crash
Jul 28 17:07:06 <soul9> "has stopped unexpectedly"
Jul 28 17:07:09 <soul9> Caused by: java.lang.RuntimeException: Bluetooth A2DP service not available!
Jul 28 17:07:17 <panicking> You have the same problem
Jul 28 17:07:20 <panicking> of that boy
Jul 28 17:07:21 <panicking> I think
Jul 28 17:07:28 <panicking> do you change your init.rc
Jul 28 17:07:29 <panicking> file?
Jul 28 17:07:32 <soul9> yes, who commented on you blog
Jul 28 17:07:35 <soul9> hm
Jul 28 17:08:21 <soul9> so, the init.rc file is the one in the blog, or i needto patch it manually according to the first comment?
Jul 28 17:08:31 <panicking> yes
Jul 28 17:08:36 <soul9> (that just changes one line, to make / read-write, no?)
Jul 28 17:08:48 <panicking> yes just beforo
Jul 28 17:08:54 <panicking> the symlink create
Jul 28 17:13:37 <soul9> ∃sting..
Jul 28 17:13:58 <soul9> testing*
Jul 28 17:16:46 <soul9> yep, that did it
Jul 28 17:16:50 <soul9> ok, awesome, thanks
Jul 28 17:17:19 <panicking> Wait for the new Phone.apk
Jul 28 17:18:52 <soul9> okey
Jul 28 17:19:46 <soul9> man!
Jul 28 17:19:56 <soul9> why in the heck is the dns still not working
Jul 28 17:20:01 * soul9 grmbls
Jul 28 17:20:25 <panicking> ADBHOST=192.168.0.202 ./adb shell ifconfig usb0 down
Jul 28 17:20:32 <soul9> oh..
Jul 28 17:20:38 <panicking> Do you have an internet connection
Jul 28 17:20:39 <panicking> ?
Jul 28 17:20:47 <soul9> but then adb doesn't work, right?
Jul 28 17:20:47 <soul9> yeah
Jul 28 17:20:54 <soul9> yeah, i am connected to wifi
Jul 28 17:21:00 <soul9> but seems like dns is not working
Jul 28 17:21:03 <panicking> so switch off
Jul 28 17:21:04 <panicking> the usb
Jul 28 17:21:10 <soul9> can't you just change the default route?
Jul 28 17:21:11 <panicking> the problem is the routing table
Jul 28 17:21:14 <panicking> I try
Jul 28 17:21:16 <panicking> but nothing
Jul 28 17:21:20 <soul9> hmm
Jul 28 17:21:23 <panicking> Do you have the same subnet
Jul 28 17:21:25 <panicking> wifi
Jul 28 17:21:27 <panicking> and usb
Jul 28 17:21:34 <panicking> it redirect all over usb
Jul 28 17:21:35 <soul9> hmmm
Jul 28 17:21:35 <soul9> yes
Jul 28 17:21:40 <panicking> Same problem
Jul 28 17:21:50 <soul9> yeah, it's 192.168.0.0/24
Jul 28 17:21:53 <soul9> hmmm, ok
Jul 28 17:25:33 <panicking> does it work?
Jul 28 17:25:53 <soul9> what is phone.apk?
Jul 28 17:26:01 <panicking> I'm preparing
Jul 28 17:26:04 <panicking> a phone appliction
Jul 28 17:26:08 <panicking> that avoid
Jul 28 17:26:09 <panicking> suspend
Jul 28 17:26:30 <soul9> oh, okay
Jul 28 17:26:34 <soul9> man
Jul 28 17:26:40 <soul9> if only i knew the route application
Jul 28 17:27:10 <soul9> where is the usb networking stuff set up?
Jul 28 17:27:15 <soul9> i might be able to do something?
Jul 28 17:27:33 <panicking> jancona, thanks for the gears part
Jul 28 17:27:36 <panicking> :)
Jul 28 17:28:43 <panicking> If you put down the usb0
Jul 28 17:28:48 <panicking> the net work or not
Jul 28 17:28:59 <soul9> trying right now
Jul 28 17:29:24 <soul9> yeah it works
Jul 28 17:29:27 <soul9> er
Jul 28 17:29:34 <soul9> just a sec..
Jul 28 17:29:41 <soul9> yep
Jul 28 17:29:56 <panicking> So if I give you a new Phone application
Jul 28 17:30:02 <panicking> you can use like a daily phone
Jul 28 17:30:22 <powderluv> soul9: cupcake is the branch that built fine.
Jul 28 17:30:34 <soul9> ok
Jul 28 17:30:34 <soul9> :)
Jul 28 17:30:37 <soul9> thanks!
Jul 28 17:30:54 <soul9> panicking: these images are made from default cupcake branch of koolu sources?
Jul 28 17:33:06 <soul9> panicking: awesome!
Jul 28 17:34:00 <panicking> That's your nice dream
Jul 28 17:34:02 <panicking> :)
Jul 28 17:34:13 <soul9> heehee, yeah!
Jul 28 17:39:53 * soul9 tries to exit the browser... :D
Jul 28 17:41:51 <panicking> chenge the aux button behavior
Jul 28 17:50:19 <soul9> panicking: this is really really awesome! thank you!!!
Jul 28 17:53:54 <soul9> the funny thing is that now wifi works (after restart) without having to dsable usb0
Jul 28 17:55:49 <soul9> btw where is this aux buton behaviour setting
Jul 28 17:56:01 <soul9> i see home buttton behaviour in spare parts
Jul 28 17:56:09 <panicking> ah right
Jul 28 17:56:11 <panicking> no
Jul 28 17:56:16 <panicking> sorry the home button
Jul 28 17:56:17 <panicking> :(
Jul 28 17:56:22 <soul9> ok :)
Jul 28 17:56:46 <soul9> oh, it's not working, it was just using the cache
Jul 28 17:57:08 <panicking> if you want the console
Jul 28 17:57:11 <panicking> using dropbear
Jul 28 17:57:14 <panicking> on wifi connection
Jul 28 17:57:46 <soul9> what would be nice, actually, is if the usb was set automatically when it is connected. is that not possible?
Jul 28 17:57:48 <panicking> or change
Jul 28 17:57:50 <panicking> the subnet
Jul 28 17:57:54 <soul9> yeah
Jul 28 17:57:57 <soul9> hmm, yeah
Jul 28 17:58:14 <soul9> ooops
Jul 28 17:58:16 <soul9> kernel panic
Jul 28 17:58:35 <soul9> ("home" button is blinking red, phone not resuming)
Jul 28 17:59:05 <panicking> I have trouble with the audio
Jul 28 17:59:09 <panicking> can you test
Jul 28 17:59:10 <panicking> the mp3
Jul 28 17:59:12 <panicking> player
Jul 28 17:59:16 <soul9> i have yeah
Jul 28 17:59:20 <soul9> seems to work fine
Jul 28 17:59:24 <soul9> what is the problem?
Jul 28 17:59:30 <soul9> (i have tested with ogg)
Jul 28 17:59:31 <panicking> Maybe I change
Jul 28 17:59:33 <panicking> somenthig
Jul 28 17:59:39 <panicking> and I don't rembenber
Jul 28 17:59:40 <panicking> :D
Jul 28 18:00:13 <soul9> heh
Jul 28 18:03:13 <powderluv> soul9: do you know how to build the qi.img and uImage files.  the regular make target doesnt seem to build them
Jul 28 18:03:34 <soul9> well, that's the installer branch
Jul 28 18:03:48 <soul9> (but i'm unsure as to wether that's cupcake or 1.0)
Jul 28 18:06:37 <panicking> soul9, are you happy now
Jul 28 18:06:42 <panicking> with your new version
Jul 28 18:06:42 <panicking> ?
Jul 28 18:07:02 <soul9> very much so, man, yeah
Jul 28 18:07:12 <soul9> you should make that init.rc the default imo
Jul 28 18:07:27 <soul9> what else did we need to change?
Jul 28 18:08:03 <panicking> I change from kernel
Jul 28 18:08:10 <panicking> to framework
Jul 28 18:08:13 <panicking> a couple of things
Jul 28 18:11:01 <powderluv> soul9: have you built the installer? Clone 	git://git.koolu.org/freerunner/platform/installer.git doesnt seem to provide much
Jul 28 18:11:10 <soul9> no
Jul 28 18:11:14 <soul9> i said installer branch
Jul 28 18:11:24 <soul9> so repo init -u ... -b installer
Jul 28 18:12:38 <powderluv> ohh ok .. cool..
Jul 28 18:13:00 <powderluv> and the make target ?
Jul 28 18:13:08 <soul9> i guess..
Jul 28 18:14:02 <soul9> panicking: how do you start the application switcher?
Jul 28 18:14:15 <panicking> press aux button for a while
Jul 28 18:14:35 <soul9> isn't that suspend/power/menu?
Jul 28 18:14:43 <soul9> or the other one is the aux, the top one?
Jul 28 18:15:02 <panicking> yes
Jul 28 18:15:09 <soul9> hm
Jul 28 18:15:11 <panicking> open three application
Jul 28 18:15:13 <panicking> settings
Jul 28 18:15:16 <panicking> phone
Jul 28 18:15:19 <panicking> brawser
Jul 28 18:15:21 <panicking> and then
Jul 28 18:15:25 <soul9> ok
Jul 28 18:15:25 <panicking> you can use it
Jul 28 18:17:34 <soul9> did you set end button behaviour?
Jul 28 18:17:38 <soul9> if yees to what?
Jul 28 18:19:41 <serdar_> hmm
Jul 28 18:19:46 <panicking> I don't change
Jul 28 18:19:50 <panicking> you can change
Jul 28 18:19:54 <panicking> the home behavior
Jul 28 18:19:57 <panicking> the other one
Jul 28 18:20:10 <panicking> home and sleep
Jul 28 18:20:16 <serdar_> panicking, you got the mails right?
Jul 28 18:20:25 <panicking> the uset
Jul 28 18:20:28 <panicking> about the user
Jul 28 18:20:29 <panicking> ?
Jul 28 18:20:30 <panicking> michael
Jul 28 18:20:32 <panicking> yes I know
Jul 28 18:20:35 <panicking> I must update
Jul 28 18:20:38 <panicking> the reposistory
Jul 28 18:20:40 <panicking> I willl do soon
Jul 28 18:20:51 <panicking> I'm in the middle of a deadline job
Jul 28 18:21:04 <serdar_> you got two accounts
Jul 28 18:21:12 <serdar_> git and michael
Jul 28 18:22:36 <panicking> ok
Jul 28 18:22:37 <panicking> I see
Jul 28 18:22:47 <panicking> no problem I update the repository soon
Jul 28 18:22:51 <panicking> i will update
Jul 28 18:33:16 <serdar_> okay, need to go see ya
Jul 28 20:03:14 <BluesLee> soul9: hey
Jul 28 20:22:06 <soul9> ..
Jul 28 22:31:23 <pbaxter> serdar_ are you on?
Jul 28 22:32:28 <pbaxter> HELLO ALL
Jul 28 22:32:37 <pbaxter> hello all (xcuse me)
Jul 28 22:32:45 <pbaxter> can someone tell me how to make the v12 image works properly?
Jul 28 22:32:55 <pbaxter> (panicking image v12)
Jul 28 22:34:48 <pbaxter> diogenes fletch is someone online?
Jul 29 01:29:54 <ColdFyre> serdar_:  yes
Jul 29 02:34:51 <ColdFyre> soul9
Jul 29 02:41:15 <ColdFyre> do you have that phone.apk?
Jul 29 02:42:24 <soul9> noper
Jul 29 02:42:37 <soul9> panicking didn't gimme that yet..
Jul 29 02:46:25 <ColdFyre> crap
Jul 29 02:46:42 <ColdFyre> so, there is no way to make normal calls in v12?
Jul 29 02:47:33 <ColdFyre> do you remember what the last working cupcake version was..it was from may IIRC..
Jul 29 02:56:14 <soul9> why not?
Jul 29 02:56:24 <soul9> calling works fine here agaik..
Jul 29 02:59:23 <ColdFyre> with v12, my calls keep going into suspend
Jul 29 02:59:37 <ColdFyre> and it's not possible to talk more than 20 seconds
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