**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Sep 20 02:59:57 2009 Sep 20 09:32:59 hi larlin Sep 20 09:33:09 nick Serdar Sep 20 09:33:17 Serdar, hello Sep 20 09:34:05 larlin, please unpack the zip on your desktop Sep 20 09:34:34 I mean on your harddisk Sep 20 09:36:23 done Sep 20 09:36:45 file system.bin Sep 20 09:37:35 yeah? that is the system part that I can flash with dfu-utils? Sep 20 09:37:55 is it yaffs2 or jffs2? Sep 20 09:38:24 Serdar: have you compiled another version? Sep 20 09:38:31 larlin@hermes:~/Projects/openmoko/android-on-freerunner-cupcake$ file system.img Sep 20 09:38:31 system.img: Linux jffs2 filesystem data little endian Sep 20 09:38:34 pbaxter, no Sep 20 09:38:47 what are you talking about so? Sep 20 09:38:53 larlin, okay than your kernel must know jffs2 Sep 20 09:39:03 http://android-on-freerunner.googlecode.com/files/android-on-freerunner-cupcake-0.1.zip Sep 20 09:39:27 larlin, the best way is, you take kernel.img if you unsure Sep 20 09:39:54 what is this Serdar ? Sep 20 09:40:19 pbaxter, the new website for android on freerunner Sep 20 09:40:25 really? Sep 20 09:40:30 ok now i see it thanks a lot Sep 20 09:40:31 pbaxter, a new release in a new effort to get a new community working on android-freerunner Sep 20 09:40:39 thanks Sep 20 09:40:44 i'm now going into it Sep 20 09:40:44 created by jancona Sep 20 09:42:07 Serdar, but you thing flashing system.img and kernel.img is the most likely way? Sep 20 09:42:33 larlin: when has been compiled this version? Sep 20 09:42:39 I don't see why it shouldn't work Sep 20 09:42:45 it was released tonight Sep 20 09:43:00 ah ok Sep 20 09:43:03 Serdar, will test and be back with at report soon but first something to eat! Sep 20 09:43:05 larlin, youare from sweden? Sep 20 09:43:09 but compiled from koolu or somewhere else? Sep 20 09:43:16 yepp Sep 20 09:43:31 okk Sep 20 09:43:50 pbaxter, micheals git and jancona's additions Sep 20 09:44:03 I should breakfast now. see ya Sep 20 09:46:49 nothing to eat :( Sep 20 09:47:53 bye and thanks Sep 20 09:49:50 Serdar, doh! Sep 20 09:57:04 are you from Norra Svealand? Sep 20 09:57:35 Nope Östergötland Sep 20 09:57:43 larlin, can you explain me, how your soccer league system works? Sep 20 09:58:21 well I could try but I'm not that much into soccer Sep 20 09:58:53 I am interested in swedish soccer since I saw Dalkurd FF Sep 20 09:59:02 I mena the results of their games Sep 20 09:59:11 that's gorgious Sep 20 09:59:50 "I mean" Sep 20 10:00:11 ahh I'm reading abit about them on the swedish wikipedia right now Sep 20 10:00:56 they won the Division 2, Norra Svealand Sep 20 10:01:04 and never lost. Sep 20 10:01:23 today is the next game and they don't need to win it. Sep 20 10:01:36 it's a kurdish team :) Sep 20 10:01:38 ahh I think that means they should be moving up too Division 1 norra Sep 20 10:01:54 yes but is that league 3? Sep 20 10:02:08 Allsvenskan = league 1? Sep 20 10:02:18 Superettan = league 2? Sep 20 10:02:24 that's what I thought Sep 20 10:02:40 yeah exatly Sep 20 10:03:05 I see, so if they could get up to Allsvenskan they can compete in the champions league? Sep 20 10:03:07 superettan is the first national league where you don't have districts any more Sep 20 10:03:20 yeah exatly Sep 20 10:03:25 great great Sep 20 10:03:36 the naming system is quite odd I must say =) Sep 20 10:03:42 I hope they make it. Sep 20 10:04:20 yeah would be cool Sep 20 10:06:08 now flashing the last thing soon we will se if it works! Sep 20 10:07:54 okay Sep 20 10:08:15 ohh early splash screen works =) Sep 20 10:11:08 humm which ofcourse has the drawback that it is hard to see if there is any progress Sep 20 10:19:03 yay now it got to the android load screen! Sep 20 10:23:23 it booted and it seems to work Sep 20 10:25:58 okay :) Sep 20 10:27:31 the headset seems to work now, didn't work any good with last version! Sep 20 10:28:17 I would love to use donut Sep 20 10:29:32 the WPA2 Enterprise encryption that if I understod correctly should be in donut, would be really nice Sep 20 10:30:27 but for most other things this verson seems to be good Sep 20 10:30:48 I think graphics acceleration would be really nice also Sep 20 10:36:33 michael is working on it Sep 20 10:38:58 humm sound in calls seems to be worse for me Sep 20 10:40:25 which revision do you have? Sep 20 10:41:10 not sure wich one this release is based on Sep 20 10:41:35 when did you bought it? Sep 20 10:41:48 ahh phone =) Sep 20 10:42:14 checking one sec Sep 20 10:42:33 http://panicking.kicks-ass.org/blog/index.php Sep 20 10:43:04 it's built 20080723 Sep 20 10:44:45 it could be V6 Sep 20 10:48:31 yepp v6 Sep 20 10:49:32 it's not enought to change any sound config I need a compleatly new ril right? Sep 20 10:49:49 yes Sep 20 10:51:03 do you know what version the ril panicking has on his dl area is for? Sep 20 10:51:37 he is trying to get it for every rev. Sep 20 10:54:41 larlin: I managed to set up wpa2 enterprise (eduroam) through wpa_supplicant on panicking's v15 Sep 20 10:54:53 could send you the config if you want.. Sep 20 10:55:14 cool! that would be nice, eduroam is exatly what I want it for! =) Sep 20 10:55:20 :) Sep 20 10:55:32 what school do you study at? Sep 20 10:55:41 audunb, there is a new version from jancona Sep 20 10:55:46 NTNU, norway Sep 20 10:55:57 Serdar: yeah, i'm about to flash it :) Sep 20 10:56:06 cool!, I think nuccc was there a few years ago right? Sep 20 10:56:17 nuccc? Sep 20 10:57:03 nordic university computer club conference =) Sep 20 10:57:12 ah, might be Sep 20 10:57:27 never heard of it before :p Sep 20 10:57:32 http://www.nuccc.org/ Sep 20 10:57:58 I think you computer club is PVV Sep 20 10:58:08 yeah, that's right Sep 20 10:58:16 I'm not a member though Sep 20 10:58:30 involved in enough organizations already.. Sep 20 10:58:42 hehe just what poped into my head when I heard the name =)... haha aren't we all? Sep 20 10:59:06 where do you study? Sep 20 10:59:08 if you test the conf with the new version you can send it to me if it still works? Sep 20 10:59:15 Linköping University Sep 20 10:59:22 :) Sep 20 10:59:25 will do Sep 20 10:59:26 email? Sep 20 10:59:33 larlin@lysator.liu.se Sep 20 10:59:46 (lysator liu:s pvv =)) Sep 20 11:02:23 there you go Sep 20 11:03:35 larlin: did you flash through dfu-util? Sep 20 11:03:44 yeah Sep 20 11:03:59 only system.img, or bootloader/kernel too? Sep 20 11:04:19 i unzipped the files and flashed: kernel.img system.img and qi.img Sep 20 11:04:44 I would guess that kernel and system is absolutly needed not sure about qi Sep 20 11:04:52 hm. I tried that, I only see the green android, nothing more happens.. Sep 20 11:05:02 I'll try one more time Sep 20 11:05:35 it takes quite a while on first boot Sep 20 11:07:52 how long is quite a while? Think I left it on for 10 minutes before my flatmate tried pushing and holding the buttons :p Sep 20 11:08:32 well I think I restarted the thing 3 times before I was able to let it wait long enought so yes a long time =) Sep 20 11:09:45 I think it is generating the ssh keys and that takes time Sep 20 11:13:07 audunb, I gues the cert didn't exist on the phone? =) Sep 20 11:13:11 *guess Sep 20 11:13:33 yeah, I didn't really look into it, but just skipping it worked finr ;) Sep 20 11:13:35 fine* Sep 20 11:14:17 I guess you won't get the same security or something, but I'm not too worried.. Sep 20 11:14:27 yeah but someone can spoof the ap and get your password I think! =) (paranoia mode activated!) Sep 20 11:17:20 might be. Let me know if you find a solution! :) Sep 20 11:17:49 maybe we can just copy the cert to the phone and define the path? Sep 20 11:17:58 I think that should work Sep 20 11:18:04 probably.. Sep 20 11:18:28 but need to go to campus to try it all don't think I will do that today =) Sep 20 11:18:48 :) Sep 20 11:19:34 but anyway a nice interface in donut would be nice also =) Sep 20 11:19:49 indeed Sep 20 11:20:44 everybody wants a gui these days. When I was young... ;) Sep 20 11:22:25 when my mother was young and learned programming she did it on punch cards! =) Sep 20 11:23:44 shouldn't I be able to get a shell with adb during boot? adb devices doesn't find my phone Sep 20 11:24:10 I want to know what's going on. Don't like static splash screens.. Sep 20 11:24:33 humm I think you should not directly maybe but after a while Sep 20 11:25:28 on the other hand I think the static boot screen is kernel boot and I think the adb bridge runs in userspace so I would guess it would come when the "android" animation comes Sep 20 11:25:52 I've had the static screen for 5 minutes now Sep 20 11:26:47 humm seems long I would say. I restarted a couple of times and tried to get it into debug mode and after a couple off times it booted as it should Sep 20 11:27:06 debug mode? Sep 20 11:27:48 adb? Sep 20 11:28:02 I have no idea why or how, after first boot I was able to restart it normally. I earlier versions you could get more debug text during boot by pressing the power button one time more after the phone started (iirc) Sep 20 11:29:16 ok.. Sep 20 11:30:39 how is your sdcard formatted? I have an ext3 and a fat32 partition Sep 20 11:30:39 so I did that a couple of time didn't get any debugtext but maybe it helped get it running Sep 20 11:30:45 do you think it matters? Sep 20 11:31:04 one sec will check Sep 20 11:31:04 *pressing power button at random during boot* Sep 20 11:32:45 I think I have the same formation as you, with posible differnce in size, I got a 4 or 8 gig card (don't remember exatly now) Sep 20 11:33:19 8 gig with ~250mb ext3 data partition here Sep 20 11:34:46 I think I got a smaller data partion but 250 mb shoulden't be big enought to cause problems I think Sep 20 11:35:39 ok Sep 20 11:35:40 as a last test I would just leave it for 30 min or something and see if it is that it takes crazy long time Sep 20 11:36:25 yeah.. It might have been on that long the first time Sep 20 11:37:08 I had the same problem when I tried to flash koolu beta 7. I think I left it on for an hour then, still not working.. Sep 20 11:38:33 five to one Sep 20 11:38:33 audunb: Serdar: yeah, i'm about to flash it Sep 20 11:38:33 one o'clock Sep 20 11:38:33 you can't have have it booting for that long =) Sep 20 11:39:21 that was the second flashing attempt ;) Sep 20 11:39:32 ahh me bad =) Sep 20 11:39:34 I thought the first had failed in some way Sep 20 11:39:57 but the one-hour boot was with koolu image some weeks ago Sep 20 11:41:00 sounds strange what rev of the freerunner do you got? Sep 20 11:41:14 v6 Sep 20 11:41:24 same as here then Sep 20 11:42:00 * larlin wounders what magic trich he did to get it to boot Sep 20 11:42:04 *trick Sep 20 11:42:23 or what I'm doing wrong.. Sep 20 11:44:05 This is the commands I used: Sep 20 11:44:05 dfu-util -a kernel -R -D kernel.img Sep 20 11:44:05 dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D system.img Sep 20 11:44:05 dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi.img Sep 20 11:46:15 I'm trying the sdcard-installation now Sep 20 11:50:54 is there a possibility I have some old files creating problems? Shouldn't be anything left after flashing bootloader, kernel and rootfs? Sep 20 11:56:43 larlin: oi think you'r wrong Sep 20 11:56:49 you just need to create 2 partitions Sep 20 11:56:51 one fat Sep 20 11:56:54 and one ext3 Sep 20 11:57:05 then put the files you find into the zip archive onto the fat partition Sep 20 11:57:12 then you just need to go into nor menu Sep 20 11:57:30 and make the phone start from SD (vfat + ext2) and it will start Sep 20 11:57:35 and make you all you need Sep 20 11:58:04 I've tried both installation methods, still doesn't seem to boot Sep 20 12:16:01 audunb: the one with dfu-util doesn't work Sep 20 12:16:17 these files are made to be a automatic installer for the FR Sep 20 12:16:24 well, it works for larlin Sep 20 12:16:42 audunb: follow this to partition SD Sep 20 12:16:42 they seem to work equally badly for me Sep 20 12:16:43 http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_on_Freerunner#Preparing_the_SD_Card Sep 20 12:16:49 yeah, done that Sep 20 12:16:57 then put the unzipped files into fat partition Sep 20 12:17:02 then press AUX + power Sep 20 12:17:09 (first aux and keep it pressed, then power Sep 20 12:17:31 then go to "boot from microsd (vfat + ext2)" Sep 20 12:17:38 and it should work from this Sep 20 12:17:39 yeah, yeah, I know the procedure. The installation seems to run just fine, bu I can't boot it after installing Sep 20 12:17:50 have you got qi as boot loader? Sep 20 12:17:55 yes i think if the installation work Sep 20 12:17:59 mmm it's strange Sep 20 12:18:02 maybe retry Sep 20 12:18:13 according to the installation "qi installed successfully" Sep 20 12:18:19 where do you partition sd: on pc or on FR? Sep 20 12:18:23 on pc Sep 20 12:18:35 mmm which OS you have? Sep 20 12:18:51 I'm trying with the supplied 512 mb sd with empty partitions now Sep 20 12:18:59 kubuntu Sep 20 12:19:02 using gparted Sep 20 12:19:19 mmm Sep 20 12:19:22 and fdisk, for that matter Sep 20 12:19:46 mmm Sep 20 12:19:49 i never used pc Sep 20 12:19:53 always using OS Sep 20 12:20:20 always using FR Sep 20 12:20:36 just flash a os for FR such as qtmoko Sep 20 12:20:45 audunb: have something like msn or skype? Sep 20 12:20:48 i pass you an old qtmoko Sep 20 12:20:58 email? Sep 20 12:21:00 and you use it to format SD Sep 20 12:21:05 msn transfers are so slow.. Sep 20 12:21:05 it's a big file Sep 20 12:21:09 so skype? Sep 20 12:21:19 how big? Sep 20 12:21:23 a sec Sep 20 12:21:56 it's 100 mb Sep 20 12:22:01 just download the new version Sep 20 12:22:04 v11 Sep 20 12:22:32 audunb: just do this Sep 20 12:22:43 wget http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/qtmoko-debian-v11.jffs2 http://activationrecord.net/radekp/qtmoko/download/uImage-v11.bin Sep 20 12:22:47 then flash both of them Sep 20 12:22:58 sudo dfu-util -a kernel -R -D uImage-v11.bin Sep 20 12:23:03 will try :) Sep 20 12:23:17 sudo dfu-util -a kernel -R -D qtmoko-debian-v11.jffs2 Sep 20 12:23:28 then use the instructions here (a sec for the link) Sep 20 12:24:04 audunb: http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Android_on_Freerunner#On_FreeRunner_.282008.x.29 Sep 20 12:24:16 then just put the files onto fat partition Sep 20 12:24:17 can't really see why it would make a difference to format on the FR, but I'll try anyways.. Sep 20 12:24:30 and then AUX + Power Sep 20 12:24:41 and then "boot from microSD (vfat + ext2) Sep 20 12:24:42 ok? Sep 20 12:24:49 yeah Sep 20 12:25:32 letta me know ok? Sep 20 12:26:30 sure, but really, fdisk and mkfs on the freerunner is exactly the same as fdisk and mkfs on my computer.. Sep 20 12:27:01 I'm not overly optimistic about your method ;) Sep 20 12:27:09 me neither Sep 20 12:27:12 but you can try Sep 20 12:27:16 if you want ^^ Sep 20 12:27:17 yeah, will Sep 20 12:36:25 audunb: are you trying? Sep 20 12:36:29 what are you flashing? Sep 20 12:36:31 yeah Sep 20 12:36:48 flashing rootfs takes a long time Sep 20 12:37:20 flashing qtmoko Sep 20 12:40:18 pbaxter, I know that it's supposed to work that way, BUT I hate doing it that way, it takes more time requires me to put the sdcard into my computer and so on I think putting a usb cable into the phone and pc run 3 commands is much easier Sep 20 12:40:45 larlin: which way you prefer? Sep 20 12:40:53 format from pc or from FR? Sep 20 12:41:05 flashing from pc with dfu-util Sep 20 12:41:29 mmm Sep 20 12:41:33 and it works atleast for me but it is easier to make misstakes Sep 20 12:41:48 but larlin can you tell me what you flash? Sep 20 12:41:52 which files you flash? Sep 20 12:42:07 audunb, one thing to try is to emtpy the data partion if there is something it doesen't like there Sep 20 12:42:12 pbaxter, sure one sek Sep 20 12:42:53 larlin: to know Sep 20 12:43:08 because i thought you could use those files only to start the automatic installer Sep 20 12:43:23 larlin: yeah, tried that. Now I'm using the original 512 mb card with the fat partition as the first partition (trying to change all variables) Sep 20 12:43:36 If you unzipp the files then there is the followin files Sep 20 12:43:36 This is the commands I used: Sep 20 12:43:36 dfu-util -a kernel -R -D kernel.img Sep 20 12:43:36 dfu-util -a rootfs -R -D system.img Sep 20 12:43:36 dfu-util -a u-boot -R -D qi.img Sep 20 12:43:51 the only thing the installer does is flashing does files into flash Sep 20 12:43:58 it's not magic =) Sep 20 12:44:08 or rather it shoulden't be magic =) Sep 20 12:45:08 but as audunb has showned there seems to be some magic involved Sep 20 12:45:20 I made the right dance when booting audunb didn't =) Sep 20 12:46:23 larlin: FR is this way Sep 20 12:46:31 for some people it works, for other it doesn't Sep 20 12:46:40 we need to find that magic power button rythm for the boot to work ;) Sep 20 12:47:38 pbaxter, I'm well aware of that but to this date in the end most things have been possible to explain, but it's so manny variables that it is hard beforehand to be sure what the problem is Sep 20 12:48:22 audunb, or we get the devs to implemnt the debug override so it posts messages instead of a nice picture Sep 20 12:48:31 lol larlin Sep 20 12:48:37 but to me worked the automatic installer Sep 20 12:48:38 yeah, that would be great Sep 20 12:48:40 just booting from SD Sep 20 12:48:53 I don't want pretty pictures when stuff isn't working :p Sep 20 12:49:14 audunb, one more thing to try, keep holding the power button in until the aux lamp turns red for a while that I think is the only thing showing that it went into debug mode Sep 20 12:49:24 (this is at boot) Sep 20 12:50:07 after the normal boot press, or do you hold the button when you first switch it on? Sep 20 12:51:10 keep holding it in utnil aux turn red Sep 20 12:53:36 interesting error when trying to boot qtmoko: Sep 20 12:53:37 Argh. No free space left for GC. nr_erasing_blocks is 0. nr_free_blocks is Sep 20 12:53:37 0. (erasableempty: yes, erasingempty: yes, erasependingempty: yes) Sep 20 12:54:40 do you have qi? Sep 20 12:54:51 audunb: i usually make qtmoko start from nor Sep 20 12:55:08 pbaxter: yeah Sep 20 12:55:24 does it start? Sep 20 12:56:02 booting from NOR works :) Sep 20 12:56:21 audunb, that's odd Sep 20 12:56:37 larlin: qtmoko that is. have to try it with android later.. Sep 20 12:56:43 ahh Sep 20 12:58:32 audunb: this is 'cause qi of android is different Sep 20 12:58:37 or you use the qi from andy Sep 20 12:58:40 or you use nor Sep 20 12:58:41 or u-boot Sep 20 12:58:47 so try different methods Sep 20 12:58:50 sometimes on FR work Sep 20 12:58:58 just going somking a cigarette Sep 20 13:04:21 bah reboot of the jabber server Sep 20 13:09:23 how manny here reads the email list? Sep 20 13:12:58 hello jancona Sep 20 13:13:24 can you add the google emailist and maybe the koolu list to the google code project? Sep 20 13:13:53 I don't know how exatly but I have seen projects having them in the list to the right on the page Sep 20 13:15:13 does anyone have navit working on android? With me it installs fine, but refuses to start... Sep 20 13:30:16 Hi larlin! If you send me a Google user name, I'll add you to the project and you can do it yourself Sep 20 13:32:42 larlin289@gmail.com Sep 20 13:42:28 jancona, or you could add my email above and I can edit the faq myself =) Sep 20 13:46:38 larlin: You're all set. Go for it! Sep 20 13:47:03 jancona, thanks! now I need to figure out how I edit these things =) Sep 20 13:55:46 jancona, humm I think you will have to add the emal list to the front page yourself as google thinks only project owners should be able to do that: Sep 20 13:55:46 "You can use the functionality under the Administer tab to customize your project. This tab is visible only to project owners. The following subtabs are useful when creating new projects: " Sep 20 13:55:46 but I will update the FAQ atleast Sep 20 14:09:39 jancona, also could you add a version label to atleast the download part so we can lable downloads that are the same release togther? Sep 20 14:10:34 larlin: Added the group to the home page Sep 20 14:10:54 great! Sep 20 14:12:43 larlin: For the version label, wre you tinking of "cupcake", "cupcake-0.1" or something else? Sep 20 14:13:00 cupcake-0.1 primary I think Sep 20 14:13:08 maybe 2 seperrate? Sep 20 14:13:20 one cupcake and one 0.1? Sep 20 14:13:53 "Android version" and "Freerunner Version" ? Sep 20 14:13:54 not sure only that I will upload a tar.gz now and I would like a tag that shows that those are the "same" Sep 20 14:14:09 branch version and release version? Sep 20 14:14:47 freerunner version I would argu can be missinterpit to relating to the hardware version Sep 20 14:14:53 How about AndroidVersion and BuildVersion Sep 20 14:15:01 yeah sounds good Sep 20 14:18:00 Done. I couldn't figure out how to add the new tags on the existing download Sep 20 14:18:50 did you add som values to it? Sep 20 14:19:01 (like 0.1 and cupcake?= Sep 20 14:20:08 I think tags includes both tag name and some pre defined values (you are also free to add any tag you want but I think predefined will help us keep a common style) Sep 20 14:20:34 I don't see a way to do that either. I've got to run right now. I'll check back a little later. Sep 20 14:20:51 k I will addid as uncommon tags in the mean time! Sep 20 14:20:56 have a good day1 Sep 20 14:20:57 *! Sep 20 14:43:49 audunb, did you get anywhere with your problems? Sep 20 14:44:27 no Sep 20 14:44:53 I've been cleaning the entire flat now, rebooting the FR every half our or so Sep 20 14:45:11 never gets past the boot screen Sep 20 14:49:52 bah that's no fun... Sep 20 14:51:12 no :( Sep 20 14:51:27 a last straw if you want is in what order did you flash your phone? Sep 20 14:51:29 the green droid is nice, but not that nice :P Sep 20 14:51:51 I think I did qi - kernel - rootfs Sep 20 14:52:16 but the symptoms are exactly the same wether I flash manually or use the installer Sep 20 14:53:40 humm that makes it stranger still, I haven't tried the installer myself but there seems to be several reports from people doing that and getting it to work Sep 20 14:53:57 yeah, I don't get it Sep 20 14:59:08 I guess if we could get debugging we would get som debug message Sep 20 14:59:37 yeah, that would be a great help Sep 20 15:02:00 well we can start by starting a issue on our new issue tracking saying that we can't get the kernel debugg Sep 20 15:02:03 one thing! Sep 20 15:02:22 have you checked if the aux button starts flashing? Sep 20 15:02:27 it does Sep 20 15:02:31 doh Sep 20 15:02:34 kernel panick Sep 20 15:02:34 at boot Sep 20 15:02:40 not later Sep 20 15:02:45 ahh Sep 20 15:02:53 then no kernel panic =) Sep 20 15:03:43 but then can you add a issue, about not being able to get boot messages instead of picture? Sep 20 15:03:52 yeah, will do Sep 20 15:15:11 http://www.mail-archive.com/android-freerunner@android.koolu.org/msg00860.html Sep 20 15:15:25 the flashing that kernel gives me some interesting messages Sep 20 15:15:42 seems to be missing a dir and several bins Sep 20 15:16:12 unable to open persistent property directory /data/propery errno: 2 Sep 20 15:17:09 missing /system/bin/ ifconfig, servicemanger, mountd, debuggerd, rild, app_process, mediaserver, dbus-daemon, installd + a few more Sep 20 15:17:18 seems like pretty important apps? Sep 20 15:19:51 humm' Sep 20 15:20:03 have you verified that you got the whole file? Sep 20 15:21:17 not really Sep 20 15:21:40 humm maybe as simple as you the file gor corrupted? (it happends sometimes) Sep 20 15:21:50 i will try to make a checksum Sep 20 15:22:03 nice :) Sep 20 15:22:32 cabf4475954daaa285a9a50cb45fb0a1 android-on-freerunner-cupcake-0.1.zip Sep 20 15:22:39 can you verfiy against that? Sep 20 15:23:12 it's the same Sep 20 15:23:20 what about system.img? Sep 20 15:23:50 will do Sep 20 15:24:12