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Jan 20 04:56:03 <kyhwana[m]> hmm, still no android security patch update
Jan 20 08:05:34 <TauPand> kyhwana[m]: what do you mean? Gemini or Cosmo? Do you mean the android security patch level or the backdoor in the cosmo firmware?
Jan 20 08:45:01 <kyhwana[m]> oop, for cosmo.
Jan 20 08:45:10 <kyhwana[m]> the android security patch level
Jan 20 08:45:29 <kyhwana[m]> (Not the backdoor/vulns in the OTA updater)
Jan 20 08:45:52 <TauPand> Did the last OTA update (from yesterday) not increase the patch level?
Jan 20 08:46:18 <kyhwana[m]> nope, still on july 2015
Jan 20 08:46:24 <kyhwana[m]> *2019
Jan 20 08:47:37 <TauPand> hmkay... maybe they had too much on their plate... anything particularly worrying regarding open CVEs?
Jan 20 08:48:07 <TauPand> (My Cosmo is still on vacation in London..., so I can't check myself.)
Jan 20 08:49:19 <kyhwana[m]> Yeah, loads of RCEs in the media framework as usual
Jan 20 08:51:03 <TauPand> Did you check with e.g. SnoopSnitch (root needed) if those are actually detectable? Sometimes things are patched without the patch level increasing. e.g. LineageOS does that quite often.
Jan 20 08:56:16 <kyhwana[m]> I haven't rooted it yet, so no
Jan 20 08:57:19 <TauPand> Anyways, July 2019 is ancient. :-\
Jan 20 09:01:26 <TauPand> Hm, Gemini has December 2018.
Jan 20 15:28:21 <marex-cloud> TauPand: https://googleprojectzero.blogspot.com/2019/11/bad-binder-android-in-wild-exploit.html?m=1 is quite bad
Jan 20 15:37:33 <TauPand> So this might be present on Gemini, but not on Cosmo.
Jan 20 15:38:59 <TauPand> "Devices showing a security patch level on or after Oct 6, 2019 should be patched against CVE-2019-2215."
Jan 20 15:39:21 <TauPand> Oh, wait, sorry ;)
Jan 20 15:39:23 <TauPand> My mistake.
Jan 20 15:54:35 <TauPand> So, does PC know about this?
Jan 20 15:56:50 <devyl> I dont think it matters for them... They want to sell the cosmo...
Jan 20 16:17:00 <TauPand> Hm, SnoopSnitch (on Gemini) only tests until 2019-09 for me, but claims all CVEs are either fixed (even after the certified Patch Level) or inconclusive.
Jan 20 16:23:02 <Marex> TauPand: considering the way planetcom handled gemini software updates and then dropped it altogether, I would never buy anything from them, ever, again
Jan 20 16:23:38 <Marex> besides, linux support -- was promissed, what was delivered was half-baked crappy vendorkernel with ~3MLoC patch and with semi-functional userland
Jan 20 16:24:26 <Marex> and then there is the thing where planetcom is investigating, why gemini stopped working on NTT network in japan altogether after android 8 update, which never resulted in a fix, so a communicator which cannot communicate is useless to me
Jan 20 18:40:50 <TallTim> Connect to wifi, check for updates -- nothing lol
Jan 20 18:41:07 <TallTim> Thanks Cosmo! I'll just leave it connected for a while to see if it magically decides to update.
Jan 20 18:42:53 <TallTim> It did detect the cover display update though, so 1 for 2
Jan 20 22:53:45 <TallTim> to repeat
Jan 20 22:53:47 <TallTim> Several hours later -- cover display processor flashed fine -- still no update detected for the main OS... which is impossible since I haven't upgraded since I got the Cosmo
Jan 20 22:53:52 <TallTim> So that's fun.
Jan 20 22:54:03 <TallTim> Get it together, planet computers.
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