**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sun Mar 18 03:00:04 2018 Mar 18 17:08:33 Ollo everybody Mar 18 17:15:45 Everybody isn’t here! ?😊🤣 Mar 18 17:45:53 steve-marinos (IRC): almost everybody, anyway. Mar 18 17:46:44 depscribe[m]: hey mate, yeah it is sunday also Mar 18 17:47:41 we may have run out of things to say until we all have our gadgets. Mar 18 17:48:47 That too but i like to keep things active from time to time, Mar 18 17:49:44 And yeap last week been kinda less exciting since no updates by pc and nothing new Mar 18 17:50:24 Same old stories about QC issues backers are experiencing Mar 18 17:51:04 Meanwhile i seen someone stripped his keyboard Mar 18 17:51:09 On FB Mar 18 17:51:32 i could go on about my project of flashing ubuntu on a 6-year-old tablet with a gig of ram, but it would mostly be moaning and cursing, because the 13.04 repos are all gone and that's the last version that will work on the tablet. can't even get a compiler to roll my own. so i can boot it but that's about it. Mar 18 17:52:20 still, it's not android! Mar 18 17:52:22 Which tablet you have ! Mar 18 17:53:34 2012 nexus 7. was given it for a project that's now over, so i thought i would look at linux on arm. Mar 18 17:53:40 Lately was looking for many things to boot linux on the go Mar 18 17:54:01 Try and flash nethunter on android Mar 18 17:54:13 Guess you will need cm Mar 18 17:54:39 Nexus devices are supported on nethunter Mar 18 17:55:00 Not a full DE but it get things done Mar 18 17:55:22 i have grown disgusted with apple and ios, which was very nice about two years ago but has gone to crap sine then. Mar 18 17:55:38 They did Mar 18 17:55:44 sine = since Mar 18 17:55:48 The new ios is all bugs Mar 18 17:56:24 Gotta say android did mature while ios is a step behind now Mar 18 17:56:38 it sure is. why do people feel the need to fix things that aren't broken? Mar 18 17:57:10 android is spyware city though. Mar 18 17:57:19 * androvex[m] sent a long message: androvex[m]_2018-03-18_17:57:18.txt Mar 18 17:57:20 Am guessing ios might have come to its limit with the extra features HW Mar 18 17:58:10 I guess androvex[m] gave you repos Mar 18 17:58:41 androvex: they're all dead. i tried 'em. i think the arm ports, if they still exist, are someplace else. likewise debian. Mar 18 17:59:00 You need to try Raring Mar 18 17:59:44 depscribe[m]: did you try nethunter! Mar 18 18:00:05 http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/raring/ Mar 18 18:00:33 that's what i tried. a fellow named wookey is the lone souce, but his archives have moved. Mar 18 18:00:34 steve-marinos (IRC) i didn't yet but will. Mar 18 18:00:59 I dunno what you are pointing at cause I can see the packages now in my web browser Mar 18 18:01:30 Anyways i did fail also to make my note 4 with drive droid to make a persistent boot even when gparted seen it as sdb Mar 18 18:01:34 i'm off to look at all this and shall report back if i survive! Mar 18 18:02:46 depscribe[m]: good luck Mar 18 18:04:24 androvex[m]: i could see the packages too on browser Mar 18 18:17:43 Hello All. Mar 18 18:18:37 I'm starting to look around to purchase a Gemini. I'm interested on Linux side. Mar 18 18:19:03 I'm seeing that Linux is advertised as supported but I also see some working on the porting (Debian). Mar 18 18:19:08 What is the real status? Mar 18 18:19:41 soron_12f, hello. Check http://developer.planetcom.co.uk/showthread.php?tid=5&pid=6#pid6 Mar 18 18:19:43 3.something kernel with libhybris to utilize android stuff to talk to most(?)/all(?) hardware Mar 18 18:21:14 Thanks. Mar 18 18:52:39 i'm hopefully getting my gemini tomorrow. delivery was supposed to be yesterday.. Mar 18 19:17:07 chris pitchford writes on igg that his order number is less than 700 and still order placed Mar 18 19:35:29 4g model? Mar 18 19:35:59 yes Mar 18 19:36:25 weird.. maybe some weird keyboard layout then? Mar 18 19:37:05 uk probably Mar 18 19:37:51 that doesn't sound right then Mar 18 19:40:13 They said they had a problem with the number if UK layouts that came out.. So that will put it back a bit Mar 18 23:02:11 Hello! Mar 18 23:02:54 hi kee-wham Mar 18 23:03:04 Hi - I’m in! Mar 18 23:03:26 Hi Mar 18 23:03:53 How busy is this network? Mar 18 23:04:08 Kee-Wham, not at all at this stage Mar 18 23:04:10 varies.. Mar 18 23:04:34 I expect it will pick up the more people receive their Geminis Mar 18 23:04:51 Is the communication here mainly social or technical? Mar 18 23:04:57 otherwise all we doing is speculating over nothing Mar 18 23:05:08 Either I think.. Mar 18 23:05:22 Though if you want comprehensive tech support better used the forums. Mar 18 23:05:44 Kee-Wham, guess it will get technical when more receive their Gemini's and then there is always me who go off topics Mar 18 23:06:15 https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showforum=192 Mar 18 23:06:56 Have you received yours? Mar 18 23:07:43 And there is always the slowing growing Telegram groupd https://t.me/GeminiPDA Mar 18 23:09:07 Kee-Wham, not yet for me, how about you androvex[m] ? Mar 18 23:09:26 Nope.. not till May I expect.. Mar 18 23:12:17 i guess am gonna jump to april Mar 18 23:12:37 may i mean Mar 18 23:12:54 Alll depends on your backer number.. Mar 18 23:13:16 If you are sub 1000 you should get it sooner.. Mar 18 23:13:40 if you are betwen 1000 1500 prolly late April/May Mar 18 23:13:42 well I was told by the end of april but now i have my doubts I think it will go further Mar 18 23:13:49 if you asked for a UK keyboard maybe even longer than that. Mar 18 23:14:02 androvex: hey! finally got hooked up with the ubuntu13.04 repo and tons of packages are now installing on my pitiful old nexus -- thanks! Mar 18 23:14:13 androvex[m], I might take a bit longer arabic keyboard for me Mar 18 23:14:30 depscribe[m], congrats Mar 18 23:14:50 depscribe: Welcome Mar 18 23:14:52 probably the only device with arabiclayout Mar 18 23:15:50 steve-marinos: i d/l'ed the kali thing for the tablet, and it says it wants android. but i ripped android off the tablet, picked it up with tongs, took it outside and chopped off its head and threw it all on the fire. i thought kali was linux? Mar 18 23:15:51 I don;t thin the other keyboards have been affected only the UK ones seemed to have a problem of ieither under production or QC failures.. not sure. which Mar 18 23:16:23 Kali is linux.. Based on Debian these days. Mar 18 23:16:42 But it might need the Android driver blobs to work properly. Mar 18 23:16:58 yeah but you need to flash it over android and it won't take android away Mar 18 23:17:30 and you probably need CM rom to fully function Mar 18 23:17:57 Sailfish used libhybris to achieve that sort of thing.. Mar 18 23:18:02 in other words you flash it on top of android, but android stays as main OS Mar 18 23:18:06 I hope the keyboard is OK Mar 18 23:18:29 steve-marinos: i'm still figuring out the whole flashing stuff, and i think android plus nethunter is a little beyond me at the moment. though now with mc installed, i am invincible! Mar 18 23:19:17 Will you be flashing in public? Mar 18 23:19:28 https://www.kali.org/kali-linux-nethunter/ ... deps Mar 18 23:19:31 depscribe[m], Mar 18 23:19:46 wait I will link you with the other link too Mar 18 23:20:18 Kee-Wham: nah -- that was for my undergraduate days. Mar 18 23:20:36 https://www.offensive-security.com/kali-linux-nethunter-download/ Mar 18 23:20:54 and I believe there is also a GitHub site Mar 18 23:21:28 https://github.com/offensive-security/kali-nethunter/wiki Mar 18 23:21:39 steve-marinos: thanks -- off to break things again! Mar 18 23:21:42 you will need cm 13 rom flashed for your device Mar 18 23:22:13 flash CM 13 first but this will mean you will have to let go of ubuntu Mar 18 23:22:34 i'll attempt a backup . . . Mar 18 23:23:03 That is what TWRP is there for ;) Mar 18 23:23:08 are you using TWRP? Mar 18 23:23:21 androvex: yeppers. Mar 18 23:23:52 cool, I was looking for a nexus locally sadly did not find one Mar 18 23:24:19 seems for some reason their best device to use net hunter with is oneplus 1 Mar 18 23:24:33 steve-marinos: this is the 2012 edition, really bare bones. the 2013 version is much better. Mar 18 23:24:50 depscribe[m], what kernel are you using? Mar 18 23:24:58 did flash ubuntu on the stock kernel? Mar 18 23:25:06 you* Mar 18 23:25:07 3.10.11 Mar 18 23:25:53 with net hunter you will be able to use OTG cable to use an external wifi adapter :D Mar 18 23:26:30 not sure about ubuntu if it is also possible Mar 18 23:26:46 in theory it should be Mar 18 23:26:57 unless you need a custom kernel Mar 18 23:28:30 ubuntu is running great on this thing -- as well, anyway, as the release allows -- and at the moment i'm trying to remember how to blow off gnome/unity and replace it with lxde, there being no lxqt for it. i started with kde the day it came out 20 years ago this summer and have been kde/tde ever since, so i forgot how to make other stuff go away . . . Mar 18 23:29:11 depscribe[m], i never liked KDE Mar 18 23:29:42 usually it is gnome and sometimes I use XFCE Mar 18 23:30:55 I wish Note 4 was supported even the m8 partially worked I could not get the OTG to see the external wifi adapter and some functions with net hunter was not working Mar 18 23:31:15 i wrote a book about it for que a long time ago. i haven't liked kde since they went sideways after kde-3.5.x, so i switched to the fork, which is trinity desktop environment or TDE. https://www.trinitydesktop.org/ Mar 18 23:31:54 depscribe[m], never tried this one since Gnome for me was enough Mar 18 23:32:12 steve-marinos: i should use xfce on the tablet, but thought lxde would help me gat familiar with lxqt, on gemini. Mar 18 23:32:29 gat=get Mar 18 23:32:32 I see your point Mar 18 23:35:56 well myself I failed to make the linux boot with drive droid persistent, gparted was seeing it as sdb but i could not partition the unallocated space even when deleting the boot partition Mar 18 23:37:00 when i tried to install as a normal cd install also could not see the unallocated space, max it read 18** MB Mar 18 23:37:03 ish Mar 18 23:37:42 and this was nearly the exact linux.img default space Mar 18 23:37:53 linux.iso Mar 18 23:37:58 * Mar 18 23:38:29 guess I might get me a 64 USB 3.0 drive Mar 18 23:38:37 or just wait for the Gemini Mar 18 23:39:06 hopefully by then things would get more mature on the linux side Mar 18 23:39:32 steve-marinos: we're doing all sorts of unusual projects while awating our geminis, aren't we. Mar 18 23:40:47 depscribe[m], I was thinking about that a while ago but I did not have the right device, even with Note4 I had to install a custom kernel so the PC would see it as a USB drive and not a CD: usb drive Mar 18 23:41:05 but yeah it has been a very long time i haven't use linux Mar 18 23:41:20 i remember your mentioning it a few days ago. Mar 18 23:41:38 there's much fun in making things do what they're not designed to do. Mar 18 23:43:25 i remember trying to make a riding lawnmower into a go-kart. still have the scars. Mar 18 23:43:34 yeah, I remember in the days of Nokia, cannot remember which device I was using, symbian for sure, there was no wireless connection as off yet, we were still using ethernet, but there was bluetooth and I think it was a new thing, anyway, I had connection to my device using bluetooth Mar 18 23:44:24 took me 2 months to make it happen but it did and it worked Mar 18 23:45:17 used my PC as a hotspot on bluetooth Mar 18 23:45:46 about a year ago i found and got nor next-to-nothing a late-model palm pilot. never could get it connected to my wireless, though. wireless was different 20 years ago. Mar 18 23:49:18 am gonna try and see if my post is still somewhere in the symbian forums if they exists still Mar 19 00:13:34 it was the N73 :D found one of my earlier posts before it worked :D Mar 19 00:15:45 was back in 2007 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Mon Mar 19 03:00:01 2018