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Mar 30 06:00:05 <sb35> anyone else get scammed out of a PocketChip?
Mar 30 08:02:05 <steve-marinos> interesting device if it had a keyboard https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/ockel-sirius-a-the-world-s-most-versatile-mini-pc-mobile-design--2/x/17998964#/
Mar 30 08:03:05 <steve-marinos> but the price tag is too much and with no keyboard
Mar 30 08:04:28 <LoneTech> I guess pair it with a textblade, which is totally unavailable
Mar 30 08:06:17 <steve-marinos> to be honest and my opinion a GPD2 would make a better purchase
Mar 30 08:06:44 <LoneTech> same base specs as a GPD Pocket, just about. that has a larger screen and a keyboard, but no ethernet port.
Mar 30 08:07:55 <LoneTech> also doesn't fit in as many pockets, I'd guess
Mar 30 08:09:02 <steve-marinos> and then the price is not that appealing
Mar 30 08:09:14 <steve-marinos> I did find it expensive
Mar 30 08:09:51 <steve-marinos> now what would be good is the intel cpu if one decided to port install linux on it
Mar 30 08:10:41 <LoneTech> though the pocket has official linux support
Mar 30 08:12:32 <steve-marinos> the GPD you mean?
Mar 30 08:12:51 <LoneTech> yes. their laptop style model is named pocket
Mar 30 08:13:56 <LoneTech> main reason I don't have one is I already got the win. backed the win 2, though. many people are hoping they make a pocket 2 too
Mar 30 08:14:36 <LoneTech> not a huge choice of manufacturers for pocketable computers to work with
Mar 30 08:20:35 <steve-marinos> I guess with the ockel mini PC would be good for presentations and meetings, but again with this price range one would go for a light notebook that have a keyboard that enable the fast productivity on the go when needed, the idea is appealing but for a small niche and gadgets enthusiast
Mar 30 08:23:17 <steve-marinos> would've been awesome if they made a slide keyboard to go with it but offcourse it would have been thicker
Mar 30 08:27:57 <LoneTech> size difference is smaller than I thought. gpd pocket 160x106x18mm, ockel sirius 160x86x22mm.
Mar 30 08:28:23 <LoneTech> oops, 19mm. anyway, pocket is surprisingly thin.
Mar 30 08:28:38 <LoneTech> ack, mixed them up. trying again:
Mar 30 08:28:59 <LoneTech> gpd pocket 180x106x19. ockel sirius 160x86x22.
Mar 30 08:31:13 <LoneTech> ockel has passive cooling, camera and ethernet jack. pocket has active cooling, keyboard, pointing nub and larger screen.
Mar 30 08:32:23 <LoneTech> I look forward to getting the gemini
Mar 30 08:54:23 <steve-marinos> well meanwhile am looking around on the indiegogo for cool stuff
Mar 30 08:54:36 <steve-marinos> I found a mobile AC unit that was interesting
Mar 30 09:03:26 <LoneTech> gtg
Mar 30 09:14:52 <steve-marinos> tc mate
Mar 30 11:46:25 <a-steve> TheKit, and others what is this exactly ? http://www.noodlepi.com/store
Mar 30 11:47:39 <TheKit> case for Raspberry Pi Zero to build mini-PC
Mar 30 11:53:55 <a-steve> thanks mate
Mar 30 13:05:00 <steve-marinos> looks like someone is already running lineage os on the gemini
Mar 30 13:05:10 <steve-marinos> https://www.facebook.com/groups/1774620199505688/permalink/1814107902223584/
Mar 30 14:50:52 <devyl[m]> nice and when Call/SMS,... works it is a alternative for the stock rom :) *hoping
Mar 30 14:58:53 <steve-marinos> the librem 5 looks very interesting
Mar 30 16:06:50 <Captain_Harlock[> Has there been any word on whether calling/texting will work on Debian?
Mar 30 16:08:15 <TheKit> not there yet, but there is a way with components Plasma Mobile
Mar 30 16:08:24 <TheKit> *Plasma Mobile components
Mar 30 16:08:31 <steve-marinos> not yet but TheKit might have updates to where it stand so far ... and he is here :D
Mar 30 16:09:40 <steve-marinos> TheKit, that librem 5 is something to look for, minus android support
Mar 30 16:09:55 <Captain_Harlock[> Okay, cool. My intention is to not use android.
Mar 30 16:10:46 <steve-marinos> Captain_Harlock[, I am hoping an SFOS/Debian dual boot
Mar 30 16:10:54 <TheKit> yeah, Librem 5 is cool
Mar 30 16:10:57 <adam_b_> Captain_Harlock[: I've been focusing on keyboard stuff just now, think I've just got keyboard shortcuts to be settable (working around lxqt keyboard assumptions)
Mar 30 16:11:24 <adam_b_> (also been working on the keyboard layouts)
Mar 30 16:11:31 <steve-marinos> adam_b_, never had the chance to thank you and TheKit for your efforts
Mar 30 16:12:30 <adam_b_> no worries, I'm mostly doing things I want to have working
Mar 30 16:12:50 <steve-marinos> but what about PC announcement for the 4.4 kernel update will that change or effect your work?
Mar 30 16:13:23 <adam_b_> should just slot in underneath my stuff, probably require changes for stuff TheKit's been working on
Mar 30 16:14:22 <steve-marinos> adam_b_, did you work yet on the arabic layout?
Mar 30 16:14:37 <steve-marinos> arabic keyboard layout that is
Mar 30 16:14:45 <adam_b_> yep I did that yesterday
Mar 30 16:15:16 <steve-marinos> adam_b_, cool as i did ask for the arabic keyboard layout :D
Mar 30 16:16:07 <adam_b_> probably a few niggles, not like I can read or speak any arabic
Mar 30 16:16:29 <steve-marinos> I can :D
Mar 30 16:16:35 <adam_b_> I popped the persian numbers on fn+shift numbers too
Mar 30 16:17:03 <steve-marinos> do you want me to take a picture of my laptop keyboard?
Mar 30 16:17:07 <adam_b_> have to dual shift tap to back to english for the f1-10
Mar 30 16:17:25 <adam_b_> nope, want someone to try it on a gemini
Mar 30 16:17:50 <steve-marinos> ah I am not receiving mine till may it seems
Mar 30 16:18:10 <adam_b_> no problem with it being broken till then I guess
Mar 30 16:18:25 <steve-marinos> not sure if any backer with same layout will have it in the next run although I did read someone who backed 2 with arabic layouts
Mar 30 16:18:57 <steve-marinos> gotta find him and see if he is having it in the next run
Mar 30 16:19:07 <adam_b_> its easy to fix any niggles, the idea is just to get something in that is at least usable
Mar 30 16:19:35 <steve-marinos> yeah plus not that I type arabic all day
Mar 30 16:19:58 <adam_b_> couldn't figure out three of the keys on the japanese keyboard, anyone speak that around here?
Mar 30 16:20:12 <steve-marinos> I only use arabic letters very occasionally
Mar 30 16:21:55 <a-steve> sorry got DC
Mar 30 16:22:06 <a-steve> I can ask someone on the facebook page
Mar 30 16:22:14 <a-steve> or indiegogo comment section
Mar 30 16:23:16 <adam_b_> I put a comment on the developer.pc... on the linux keyboard threads with the keys in question
Mar 30 16:23:42 <steve-marinos> adam_b_, I can ask someone on facebook might have faster replies there
Mar 30 16:24:28 <steve-marinos> or if you are on the FB page ask there
Mar 30 16:24:43 <adam_b_> I refuse to post on facebook, not inclined towards feeding that that data store
Mar 30 16:25:22 <steve-marinos> I can do it for you if you want
Mar 30 16:26:27 <steve-marinos> just tell me what you need and or i will ask them to join here and get in touch with you by PM or in the main channel
Mar 30 16:26:48 <adam_b_> nah its still feeding it even if its remote
Mar 30 16:29:57 <steve-marinos> adam_b_, I just posted a question regarding this, when I get a reply I will PM you or tell him to contact you here
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Mar 30 20:15:35 <steve-marinos> adam_b_, seems someone on FB can help
Mar 30 20:15:54 <steve-marinos> https://www.facebook.com/groups/1774620199505688/permalink/1814211782213196/
Mar 30 22:18:36 <cos-> btw got gemini delivery notice in mail. it's handled by matkahuolto in finland, i have to get it from their warehouse.
Mar 30 22:18:59 <cos-> even cheapest china packages come to nearby post office
Mar 30 22:19:49 <cos-> the "delivery" is today 2 weeks late from the "at latest" date..
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