**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 13 03:00:03 2018 Apr 13 09:03:20 i sent mail to planet to check my guide & asked about debugging the non-booting android Apr 13 11:08:58 mid April is looking unlikely Apr 13 11:09:51 why so? Apr 13 11:10:15 my 22xx is still order placed at indiegogo Apr 13 11:10:20 it's mid-april ;) Apr 13 11:10:38 hehe Apr 13 11:24:39 hehe Apr 13 11:25:02 i thought if somebody had scraped the planet order checking tool and now someone has done it Apr 13 11:25:16 https://www.facebook.com/groups/1774620199505688/permalink/1819165681717806/ Apr 13 11:25:55 order stats per country: https://scontent-arn2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30688465_1803074510001919_494177189026070528_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=fe140d21e5f39d7b6d1a2781020f235f&oe=5B285B02 Apr 13 11:26:50 i saw that Apr 13 11:26:54 interesting Apr 13 11:27:15 sad that more info comes from non-planet people generally though Apr 13 11:29:25 I wonder why Korea is the only country with a double-quote at the start e.g. "Korea Apr 13 11:36:57 most probably a typo Apr 13 11:37:27 * canny[m] takes paranoia hat off ; ) Apr 13 11:37:41 it was some editable workbook Apr 13 11:38:15 either that, or there's a country called exactly like that and which is unrelated to Korea :) Apr 13 11:38:41 https://beta.observablehq.com/@johnsonyue/gemini-order-stats Apr 13 11:39:43 fakefur: I'm not sure Planet is happy that all that data has been publicly released, even if it has been obtained from a freely accessible database, I wouldn't be surprised if they'd be asked to remove it because of EU privacy laws or similar Apr 13 11:40:06 I assume that must be South Korea... considering that there's only 1024 IP addresses allocated to it for 25 million people! Apr 13 11:40:21 allocated to North Korea, I mean Apr 13 11:40:26 varti[m]: it's anonymised, i think it's probably ok... but yeah, ianal :) Apr 13 11:41:06 canny[m]: where did you get that 1024 value? Apr 13 11:41:22 ah yes, Korea in this case = South Korea Apr 13 11:42:08 I'm kinda curious how they scraped this data... a small Perl script looping through all order values on the form? Apr 13 11:42:08 akik Googled: how many IP addresses does North Korea have? ;) dunno how accurate this is but I heard their IP allocation is....low. Apr 13 11:42:32 btw order #4's country in "n/a"... that one might be destined to North Korea :) Apr 13 11:43:16 varti: lol! Order email: kim@gov.kp Apr 13 11:43:19 "status: Perk/Order number not found"... that's suspicious Apr 13 11:45:19 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_in_North_Korea - some interesting details... Apr 13 11:45:24 just discovered that 1523 IDs out of 7500 are "Perk/Order number not found", so the list is not complete Apr 13 11:46:02 varti[m]: those are presumably people who started to buy and then didn't complete but still got far enough to be allocated an igg number Apr 13 11:48:48 varti[m] it is fairly anonymous though Apr 13 11:49:17 adam_b: you're probably right Apr 13 11:49:32 canny[m]: found this for n korea: https://bgp.he.net/AS131279 Apr 13 11:50:12 fakefur: yes, it indeed does not reveal much info anyway Apr 13 11:50:38 as i said, it's a pity that planet aren't keeping us more informed Apr 13 11:50:46 akik: Oops, I shouldn't have clicked that link on my work laptop - I'll get a call from the network police! Apr 13 11:51:10 i'm beginning to get suspiciously pessimistic about ever seeing a device Apr 13 11:51:14 canny[m]: you're joking, i get it Apr 13 11:51:25 when companies go quiet it is rarely because they have great news Apr 13 13:45:57 no reply from planet, i think i'll reflash the whole phone and update the docs later Apr 13 15:16:22 updated my linux setup script with instructions how to do everything over ssh, no need for using ui on gemini Apr 13 15:31:41 ok, after setting up linux with the script android boots.. so it must have been something else i did Apr 13 15:32:01 i mounted couple of android filesystems, maybe there is some tamper protection for them.. Apr 13 15:33:53 cos-, there is on /system Apr 13 15:36:07 so i probably should add "don't try to mount system partition" to the post.. Apr 13 15:36:39 do you know if the partition with android Download or other place accessible with TWRP is accessible from linux? Apr 13 15:36:44 cos-: did you mount them rw or ro? Apr 13 15:37:54 i guess rw by default Apr 13 15:42:23 not that you want to have to go through the install again but ro might be safer Apr 13 15:43:37 android /system is ro by default, right? Apr 13 15:45:43 on a rooted android phone, if i've needed to make changes there, i'd needed to remount,rw it Apr 13 15:47:13 it is official Apr 13 15:47:48 after a few years with dedication to apple I finally made a switch back to android with the Nokia 7 plus Apr 13 16:06:51 congrats Apr 13 16:07:12 hopefully you some day join the sailfish boat :-) Apr 13 16:08:30 should the android storage be available via USB / MTP? Apr 13 16:08:57 at least on ubuntu it mounts a empty directory, but you can't copy anything to it Apr 13 16:14:56 i bet there are smarter ways to copy files to gemini than install f-droid, install kde connect, and send files with it from pc.. Apr 13 16:20:43 MTP - should work on the left hand USB socket Apr 13 16:21:17 might need to swipe down and slect the connection option in notifications to change mode Apr 13 16:23:32 cos-: AndroidFTP - SFTP or SMB on the Gemini itself Apr 13 16:26:22 ktabic_: yes, thanks.. there was a notification where i could choose the USB method. now it works. Apr 13 16:50:08 https://youtu.be/7zh1XXJvAYw Apr 13 16:51:15 ok, now i have again working triple boot system. hopefully no reflashing needed in near future.. Apr 13 16:51:51 cos-: could you put the gpt somewhere for others to see? Apr 13 16:52:33 gpt? Apr 13 16:54:40 partition t ble Apr 13 16:54:46 partition table Apr 13 16:55:26 somebody (thekit?) said it uses gpt Apr 13 16:56:18 i don't know how's that relevant.. i did it like in my blog posting. sailfish is on linux partition. Apr 13 16:58:02 cos-, I was tired waiting on Gemini, and my IP6s is becoming useless for daily use Apr 13 16:58:08 and thank you Apr 13 16:58:20 np.. away to weekend now -> Apr 13 16:59:03 yeah tomorrow will go up the mountains and hunt begins :D Apr 13 16:59:20 if there is something that I love more than tech it would be hunting Apr 13 17:00:38 amazfit bip smart watch battery should last for 4 months if you don't use the gps Apr 13 17:35:19 akik: Caso F94W battery lasts... ummm.... 10 years so far... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Apr 14 03:00:00 2018