**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon May 14 03:00:02 2018 May 14 07:38:00 hi May 14 07:38:24 cos-: https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?s=&showtopic=34963&view=findpost&p=285786 May 14 08:02:18 VartiWork: hm, i thought i tested it. pull requests welcome if someone could fix it. May 14 08:03:12 oesf says my e-mail is already registered by an user but i can't get recovery e-mail May 14 08:03:43 let me check May 14 08:25:00 replied. maybe installing gdm3 would fix the issue. May 14 08:35:38 hopefully... I wonder what's the package which has the Gnome dependency May 14 09:22:48 task-gnome-desktop? May 14 09:28:49 silly me... I didn't notice there was a Gnome installation request in your script, I though Gnome was installed as a dependency requirement of one of the other installed packages May 14 09:33:26 it would be anyway nice to have more or less working gnome setup for gemini quite early May 14 09:34:07 do we have a way to reinstall linux partition without wiping android side? May 14 10:24:29 cos-, wait, are you using gnome shell without GLES? May 14 10:25:31 yes. it's slow. May 14 10:25:47 that's crazy May 14 10:26:06 you need to rebuild Mutter with proper configure options May 14 10:26:07 well, not using. just tested that it works. May 14 10:26:52 --enable-xlib-egl-winsys --enable-gles2 May 14 10:27:38 we need mutter built with those options in repository May 14 12:23:13 hrm... my pgup/pbdn keys are also not working on android... May 14 12:44:09 i noticed that in firefox and perhaps some other apps that they were not working, but wondered if many apps do not support pgup/pgdown. come to think of it, they might not pass through the remote desktop for android client either May 14 12:44:41 (i figured it may be similar to how they said CTRL+C / CTRL+V for copy paste would not work in all apps) May 14 16:00:39 is there published somewhere a list of the key bindings we use in linux-lxqt? i'm trying today to cobble together a key combination to raise/lower the application and menu panel and i don't want to step on anything. i think that the custom is to use ctrl-esc. May 14 19:07:45 http://efidroid.org/ - this would interesting for multiboot bootloader May 14 19:07:49 *could be May 14 19:34:42 yep May 14 19:55:10 hello friends. glad this exists... May 14 19:56:33 does anyone have any pointers on US carrier info? i got a unit a couple of weeks ago, am discovering that it's unlikely to work on verizon, trying to figure out where i should go... May 14 20:01:14 https://www.frequencycheck.com/compatibility/EaDXIlv/planet-computers-gemini-pda-lte/united-states May 14 20:02:39 thanks echicken. i guess my real question is "what carriers have people actually successfully used". May 14 20:02:55 hi brennen, i am using mine on AT&T in the US. i have made a handful of phone calls, lots of text messages/email, and used for GPS navigation through my data plan with no issues. May 14 20:03:12 i am in a semi-rural area and also traveled to an urban area last weekend May 14 20:03:23 one thing i have noticed is i seem to get 3G (not 4G) data speeds in my area May 14 20:03:32 which for me, is not a deal breaker. but for some it may be May 14 20:04:09 ah, yeah. thanks for the detail. May 14 20:04:37 I'm surprised there isn't a forum thread on this topic (unless I missed it); might be useful. May 14 20:04:42 ~5-6 Mbps downstream, about 0.5 Mbps upstream according to ookla speedtest app May 14 20:05:23 my 802.11ac wifi at home when gemini is connected fully saturates my comcast internet connection, however May 14 20:05:36 yeah echicken - definitely would be. i feel like maybe it's just early days and most people don't have the hardware yet? May 14 20:05:38 echicken, yes it would May 14 20:05:43 or have only just gotten it very recently. May 14 20:09:47 i also use pandora in the car via bluetooth and even enabling higher quality audio over mobile data works. that's about my biggest continuous throughput necessity. have not done video streaming over mobile data, however May 14 20:11:34 i also need to visit the AT&T store because i may need a new microsim. having issues with my voice mail that predate arrival of my gemini May 14 20:14:07 Being in Canada, I did not expect to hear much from other Gemini users here; I had to use that frequencycheck website and hope for the best May 14 20:14:36 I did not mind switching away from my previous provider, though. Thankfully it worked out. May 14 20:15:27 i'd like to use this with a number on verizon that i don't really want to ditch since it's my only point of contact with a bunch of people. May 14 20:15:38 but i'm not feeling especially optimistic at this point. May 14 20:15:40 can't you port numbers from carrier to carrier now? May 14 20:15:46 i thought they made that possible now May 14 20:15:54 in theory, yeah. in practice i haven't had much luck yet. May 14 20:16:02 I should hope so; porting has been a thing here for a long time May 14 20:16:22 I've ported my current number three times now May 14 20:16:28 we don't really do anything on a timely schedule down here unfortunately. i am looking forward to modernity when we visit europe next month May 14 20:16:54 out of curiosity echicken, what carrier in Canada is working for you? (helpful to know in case we travel there again at some point) May 14 20:17:13 my carrier is called Fido May 14 20:17:21 they seemed to have the best compatibility May 14 20:17:43 previous provider was Freedom Mobile; I could not make or receive phone calls, though everything else worked May 14 20:18:01 ah ok. i believe last time we traveled to toronto area i ended up with a prepaid rogers sim. and vodafone in the EU May 14 20:18:30 when porting a cell number up here, you generally do not tell your current provider that you're cancelling first; just go to the new provider, tell them you're porting, and they initiate the process May 14 20:18:44 for me, my number was switched over within about an hour May 14 20:19:10 that's a great turnaround time, imho May 14 20:20:11 yeah, I was surprised May 14 20:20:37 I mean, there's no reason why it *should* take a long time, but still May 14 20:24:12 i've made a couple of attempts and just gotten a "we can't port that number". May 14 20:24:43 but i think US law only allows porting if you haven't moved, or something to that effect. May 14 20:25:17 so i may be SOL. May 14 20:40:01 i believe there is something weird if you live in an area different than the area code of your number May 14 20:40:18 i remember i wanted to get a local number but i have a family share plan with area code from a different state (hard to change 4 people's #s at once) May 14 20:40:25 they told me i had to change all or nothing May 14 20:41:19 if you went to the destination carrier's store located in the area code of the number you want to port, perhaps? might be a lot of effort May 14 20:44:42 yeah, there may be a pathway. i got to a certain point and sort of stalled out. May 14 20:49:39 personally i avoid visiting carrier store if at all possible, but sometimes it's necessary. May 14 20:49:43 on an unrelated note, has anyone heard anything about an ETA on the production of the rear camera modules recently? May 14 20:55:42 Nope. So far I'm not missing the rear camera too much, but it would be nice to have. May 14 22:42:33 is anyone here atm or is everyone afk? May 14 22:44:11 if you have a question, just ask and someone may hop in and answer it May 14 22:45:25 and yeah, I've used external keyboards with my android devices, and nearly anything that should will support pgup/pgdn May 14 22:49:20 I was wondering has anyone tried external hdmi and if so what are the limitations ? May 14 23:28:24 is bluetooth not working? i've veen an hour trying to configure a little bluetooth trackball and while i got it paired, i can't find any way to connect it. May 14 23:29:19 veen=been May 14 23:50:02 never mind -- i installed everything in the repository named bluez or blootooth and now it connected. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue May 15 03:00:02 2018