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May 27 07:21:01 <TheKit> g3mini[m], you know, that position is kinda wrong
May 27 07:21:51 <TheKit> since Linux adaptation is mostly done by community, unless someone figures it out it won't be worked out in future :)
May 27 08:32:11 <g3mini[m]> yeah, sorry for ranting earlier
May 27 08:33:06 <g3mini[m]> so far it's pretty impressive what does work
May 27 13:50:06 <depscribe> here's something new: this morning my gemini, fully charged and on last night when i went to sleep, did not want to come on. wondering if the battery were entirely depleted, i pushed the silver button and it announced the time, over and over. after a bit, the heat map screen flashed over and over, before finally settling down and allowing me to log in. strange.
May 27 13:50:41 <depscribe> no time to sort it out now, though.
May 27 14:30:35 <Zevv> What do I need to do to make fn-sym to work on android?
May 27 14:59:18 <depscribe> i'm thinking we need to come up with a key combination that emulates a right mouse button click.
May 27 15:00:19 <depscribe> there are some applications that want to stay alive in the system tray that do not apparently do very well with napping, sleeping, or hibernating as done by gemini.
May 27 15:00:49 <depscribe> and it takes the rmb to quit them, unless one opens a terminal and does a killall.
May 27 15:27:13 <Captain_Harlock[> describe, I was actually thinking of just that yesterday when I needed to right click on something. I had a mouse sitting near by and a usb-c adapter. any suggestions on what the mapping should be?
May 27 15:29:35 <Captain_Harlock[> Instead of having a direct mapping of key to right click, I think it would be better if holding key then touching the screen would generate the right click.
May 27 18:15:01 <cos-> how do i prevent android disconnecting tcp connections when idle? connectbot disconnects ssh which is annoying..
May 27 18:15:13 <depscribe> Captain_Harlock : Possibly alt-tap or some such. Left shift-tap. I think that having applications that want to remain running -- terminate and stay resident, as we called it in the DOS days -- can cause trouble.
May 27 18:19:21 <Captain_Harlock[> cos- If you are on wifi, there is a wifi keep alive app that I have used previously. Otherwise, it might be a powersaving option? I know for syncthing, I needed to grant it permission to stay around in the background.
May 27 18:20:49 <Captain_Harlock[> depscribe: I was thinking ctrl would probably be my preference. I was doing some research into remapping/adding a mapping to the key. It should be possible. I figured out how to map it directly, thought I haven't had a chance to test it yet.
May 27 18:21:21 <cos-> yes wifi.. i couldnt find any power save option for it
May 27 18:21:58 <cos-> on sailfish ssh stays alive
May 27 18:22:34 <depscribe> Captain_Harlock : ctrl would be fine with me. just something that's anatomically possible.
May 27 18:23:41 <Captain_Harlock[> RIght, for a left handed user, they may prefer something on the other side of the keyboard.
May 27 18:23:59 <depscribe> i have no idea what the scancode even is for a rmb click.
May 27 18:25:03 <depscribe> after that, we can figure out a way to make a key combination to make lmb button sticky, as needed in selecting text. it can be done now, but it is non-easy.
May 27 18:25:22 <depscribe> shift?
May 27 18:26:29 <Captain_Harlock[> depending on the system, it is sometimes listed as 'menu'
May 27 18:27:43 <Captain_Harlock[> I haven't had a chance to switch to linux and test what I've found. I might get a chance tonight.
May 27 18:32:25 <Captain_Harlock[> http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?t=58020
May 27 18:38:20 <depscribe> interesting link!
May 27 18:41:29 <depscribe> will have to play with that a bit.
May 27 18:41:53 <Captain_Harlock[> xbindkeys, and xdotool  might also be worth looking at.
May 27 18:42:24 <Captain_Harlock[> I am about to lose my internet. Yay for middle of nowhere TX
May 27 18:43:08 <Captain_Harlock[> Also, Gemini is great for typing while riding in a vehicle. :D
May 27 18:43:46 <depscribe> I presume you're not the onr driving . . .
May 27 18:43:56 <depscribe> our=one
May 27 18:46:01 <Captain_Harlock[> https://superuser.com/questions/217615/how-to-right-click-using-the-keyboard-from-ubuntu-on-a-mac
May 27 18:47:26 <Captain_Harlock[> No, I am a passenger. I don't have a death wish...
May 27 19:03:46 <SteveGoodey> That's what an autonomous car is for. :-)
May 27 19:10:43 <depscribe> you don't lose internet in an autonomous car.
May 27 19:44:57 <ali1234> http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/PzpHKymwm6/
May 27 19:47:28 <TheKit> ali1234, how many days did it take?
May 27 19:49:33 <ali1234> actually that took 17 seconds
May 27 19:53:31 <ali1234> it took two days to write the code tho
May 27 20:00:03 <ali1234> so to reconstruct the base of the gemini kernel, you need files from all of the listed commits
May 27 20:00:38 <ali1234> then you need the mediatek changes on top of that
May 27 20:02:13 <ali1234> that's the 5870 unfound blobs
May 27 20:02:23 <ali1234> about 3000 of those are completely new files
May 27 20:03:05 <TheKit> would be interesting to look at that repo
May 27 20:03:24 <ali1234> it's android-mediatek, android-commin, and linux-stable
May 27 20:03:32 <ali1234> and linux-next
May 27 20:03:43 <ali1234> all those commits are from one of those
May 27 21:05:09 <ali1234> these two are definitely cherry picked: 0b181e74528cfb9eb38e73ef17634bea3cd8cedc c490aca77cb2b1fca54191f7feb34ab45490ead7
May 27 21:06:15 <ali1234> 22b269c2259aba93be84bdb9d30e94ac6dcfe721
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