**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jun 06 03:00:11 2018 Jun 06 07:48:48 Hello, anyone here who might know where I can find hw specific binaries and documentation on the libhybris bit for Gemini PDA or any documentation with how the Debian image is being built apparently Debian stable is shipping a really outdated version of Qt / Plasma and sadly direct upgrade to Debian Testing doesn't seem to work Jun 06 08:44:31 Aix_: Image creation info: https://github.com/gemian/gemian-multistrap-config debian buster (testing) is bootable with most of the useful packages built Jun 06 10:30:24 adam_b_: thanks for that :-) might help porting other distros to it Jun 06 10:30:56 ali1234: what's the state of the kernel world? already rebased to a git repo with history? Jun 06 10:31:42 flokli: yea it should give you an idea of all the things that need patching/porting Jun 06 10:32:42 i'm also a bit worried about that flashing tool, and in general baking the system image… the binary blob provided by planet ships libraries of some old qt version :-/ Jun 06 10:41:20 by old you presumably just mean the one in debian stretch? we are also working on a debian buster (with almost latest qt), though moving to testing has its own hazards with frequent broken packages to cajole in to upgrading Jun 06 11:32:29 flokli: i got a bit side tracked developing software to reverse search git repos Jun 06 11:32:54 i've got the runtime for exact matches down to about 8 hours now, and it only needs around 10GB of RAM Jun 06 11:33:08 i found the original version was not looking at anywhere near all commits Jun 06 11:33:49 the new version identified the 3.18.41 mainline merge as the second best match so i think it is working better now Jun 06 11:59:07 There's a post on Medium claiming that Gemini uses "MediaTek SoC ... there is a mtklogger running on the phone which is basically a keylogger." -- http://medium.com/@chpapa/review-after-two-weeks-with-gemini-phone-7dd8b55060 -- Is this claim accurate? I'd really like to know. Jun 06 11:59:58 yes Jun 06 12:00:58 Any way to "nuke it from orbit" - seems a glaring oversight Jun 06 12:01:26 sure. root and delete the apk/odex from the rom image Jun 06 12:02:22 Like razing your house to get rid of an incursion of ants ;) Jun 06 12:02:29 Fair enough. Jun 06 12:02:54 adam_b_: I was referring to the gemini flash tool, at it shipping with a bundled qt4.7 iirc Jun 06 12:03:42 ali1234: no worries - everybody has a lot of things to do :-) Jun 06 12:03:55 flokli: ahh yea we should probably do some distro specific builds that use the distro's qt etc Jun 06 12:04:18 adam_b_: do you have the source of that and can distribute it? Jun 06 12:04:53 its up on github - https://github.com/dguidipc/SP-Flash-Tool-src Jun 06 12:07:05 ah, okay - need to dig into the build process there. but seems there still are binary qt libs in the repo: https://github.com/dguidipc/SP-Flash-Tool-src/tree/master/Lib/QtLinux/lib Jun 06 12:07:45 yes, and the actual flashing protocol is a lib as well Jun 06 12:07:47 yea it'd be a branch to gemian and tinker type project Jun 06 12:09:27 so they've kept the protocol private then, I've not looked into it, I was hoping to live in a flash once and never again world... Jun 06 12:10:30 maybe if you can get a distro put together with something like snaps Jun 06 12:10:50 I'm simply a bit confused by the sheer amount of stuff that's being shipped in this gui application. would have preferred a cli similar to fastboot that can be used, which simply uses the binary flashing lib, if that needs to stay closed source Jun 06 12:11:13 there is a CLI tool in that repo as well Jun 06 12:11:35 i mean ideal it would just use fastboot Jun 06 12:11:44 but not in FlashToolLinux.tgz, right? Jun 06 12:11:51 i haven't looked Jun 06 12:12:38 ali1234: it sounded like they (planet) did try down that route but found it unreliable so picked this as it was more robust (less brickable) Jun 06 12:13:55 ali1234: can you point me to that cli tool? or is it just a cmdline switch for the gui application? Jun 06 12:16:31 the flash tool is written by mediatek Jun 06 12:16:33 all of it Jun 06 12:16:39 it's identical to the ones for their other phones Jun 06 12:16:51 this isn't even the first time they've released a sourcecode snapshot of it Jun 06 12:17:30 and the CLI mode source is literally in the "ConsoleMode" subdirectory Jun 06 12:18:01 no mediatek phones use fastboot Jun 06 12:18:06 that i know of anyway Jun 06 12:20:23 bah, console mode is being used in main.cpp if strcmp(argv[1], "UT") == 0 Jun 06 12:20:32 so no separate CLI binary ;-) Jun 06 12:22:37 LinuxDeploy is looking better and better as an option, lol Jun 06 12:46:50 bah, no no Jun 06 12:47:23 seems like there's just a bit more of initial pain involved in sorting that out ;-) Jun 06 12:48:18 I think Gemini suffers from "WIA" - Wipe It All syndrome ; Jun 06 12:48:21 :) Jun 06 13:08:55 http://support.planetcom.co.uk/index.php/Restoring_Gemini_4G_x27_firmware Jun 06 13:09:13 wait.. does x25 require different firmware than x27? Jun 06 13:11:06 yes, though its not the x25/27 chip that makes it different but the presens of the eSIM on the x27 boards Jun 06 13:11:16 so I've heard, yeah, cos- Jun 06 13:11:39 oh, that's nice Jun 06 13:11:56 I think the OTA firmware at the start of the week was for X25 only, and that's why it broke some setups Jun 06 13:12:01 how about sending x27 devices for everyone with x25 and get over with it .. Jun 06 13:13:03 probably would be easier for them in the longrun Jun 06 13:14:48 still quit a hit to take on 1000 devices (the second batch had the first few as still the old x25's) out of ~4000 total so far? Jun 06 13:16:13 the first 1000 also had lot of bad keyboards Jun 06 13:16:56 much cheaper to send out the new keyboard mats than recall all devices Jun 06 13:22:35 i'd prefer a new device to replacement mat. Jun 06 13:24:03 22xx (4g/wifi) arrived finally Jun 06 13:51:43 aix[m], also Halium documentation Jun 06 13:54:21 flokli, actually we can get fastboot running, but it's not good for repartitioning Jun 06 14:03:38 anyone, in case someone wants to try porting other distros with current stack, ask me and I'll try to explain, maybe this will eventually get to wiki Jun 06 14:15:14 my Gemini has arrived \o/ Jun 06 14:15:38 congrats VartiWork :) Jun 06 14:16:00 and of course I'll have to wait until tonight to have the time to even open the box :) Jun 06 14:16:57 I got the camera, pouch, hub, hdmi, ethernet today as well Jun 06 14:16:58 congrats! Jun 06 14:17:11 i'm still waiting for camera Jun 06 14:17:34 that pouch isn't worth the extra bucks! Jun 06 14:19:02 it hardly fits the device... quickly using the Gemini is no longer possible when using the pouch Jun 06 14:34:23 glad you received the accessories Jun 06 14:35:10 the pouch is at first very tight, this is normal, it expands after a while Jun 06 15:08:21 I thought the box itself was pretty cool. They put real thought into it. Reminded me of some Japanese designs. Clever, well made. Jun 06 15:08:41 Congrats on getting your Gemini - it will suck you down a rabbithole ;) Jun 06 15:09:35 I didn't get the camera, maybe I should've... oh wel Jun 06 17:26:42 the pouch does loosen up after a week or two of frequent use. unfortunately about a month in some of the stitching on mine is beginning to come undone Jun 06 17:46:09 flokli: latest result: http://paste.ubuntu.com/p/5sTwTSD9xg/ Jun 06 17:46:47 if you merge all those commits, check out the work tree from the first one, copy the tarball over, and then commit, that should be it Jun 06 17:50:46 what's interesting, there is support for Banana PI BPI-R2/mt7623 in mainline Jun 06 17:51:46 maybe someone familiar with LKML etiquette could drop a letter to linux-mediatek to say hi for Gemini PDA and ask how much of that code could be reused to support mt6797P/X? Jun 06 18:34:13 i have the finnish keyboard layout but it doesn't match what's on the keys Jun 06 18:36:09 gotta read how to fix it Jun 06 18:36:14 akik: it was a bit strange how you select the layout Jun 06 18:36:54 akik: I also had to read how to change the layout to match the finnish keyboard Jun 06 18:38:49 oh btw the update 57 said not to update it Jun 06 18:38:53 what was that about? Jun 06 18:40:12 it says "Please don't update your Gemini unit until further notice. We have found issues with the latest over-the-air update and we are investigating." Jun 06 18:48:33 mal: do you see in "about phone" cdma baseband version? Jun 06 18:50:22 truly a world phone Jun 06 19:07:19 akik: I have sailfish installed on the device currently and it seems android side doesn't boot so I can't check Jun 06 19:09:19 no idea why the keyboard config is so hard. i configured the finnish qwerty and lost the fn usage completely Jun 06 19:10:14 restart, and the settings have reset Jun 06 19:12:42 akik: what values do you have now? I think in language & input has the physical keyboard language should have gemini swedish Jun 06 19:15:07 gemini keyboard/finnish qwerty Jun 06 19:15:15 i'll try swedish Jun 06 19:20:07 i want to keep using english as the ui language Jun 06 19:20:17 but use the finnish/swedish keyboard Jun 06 19:20:58 ok got it Jun 06 19:21:20 had to do it through the settings/language & input and not through the gemini keyboard app Jun 06 20:08:38 I bloody wish Planet would HTFU and lock my order and devlier the damn thing. Sick of waiint and being given bullshit dates now **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jun 07 03:00:04 2018