**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Jun 29 03:00:00 2018 Jun 29 03:20:03 Put my first Sailfish app up on OpenRepo/Storeman :d Jun 29 07:10:19 NeKit: Looking at your github, I am very curious about the performance with wlroots and your hwcomposer backend in sway. Jun 29 07:11:33 NeKit: is this something that could be potentially part of PostmarketOS for the gemini or just for arch ? Jun 29 07:18:43 greguu: where, what? wayland for debian on gemini? Jun 29 07:21:03 cornu: nah, not debian, NeKit did some POC with wlroots and sway, using a custom hwcomposer backend...using arch aarch64 afaik, very interesting.. Jun 29 07:23:02 https://github.com/NotKit/wlroots Jun 29 07:39:11 greguu: ah, thanks Jun 29 09:26:21 greguu, well, you can package it for any distro, but Debian stretch would need some deps updated Jun 29 09:27:27 NeKit: xbps-src, void linux, got my attention... after messing with arch and alpine. Jun 29 09:27:46 NeKit: but what about the performance ? Jun 29 09:29:16 Wayland apps are fine, like LibreOffice is much faster than with Xorg Jun 29 09:29:50 but X-only apps would run without OpenGL ES support Jun 29 09:30:01 hm Jun 29 09:30:57 what about browsers ? Jun 29 09:31:34 NeKit: you used glibc arch, right ? Jun 29 09:32:24 I would like to extend this exercise to aarch64-musl to see if this can be a base for linux on the gemini Jun 29 09:33:04 even with PostmarketOS Jun 29 09:33:14 as it is alpine based Jun 29 09:33:55 wayland is the future no doubt Jun 29 09:34:30 greguu: yeah, X is so....70's! Jun 29 09:35:13 (correction - 80's) Jun 29 09:38:57 hi guys - i just spent half an hour trying to reboot into recovery mode but no luck Jun 29 09:39:10 NeKit: this is great effort and in the right direction. I hope to find some time soon to test and help out Jun 29 09:39:14 is there some kind of small animal i'm supposed to sacrifice before it will work? Jun 29 09:40:33 adb reboot bootloader can't find the device Jun 29 09:40:44 trying to bot holding the silver key doesn't work Jun 29 09:40:49 *boot Jun 29 09:40:59 are there any other options? Jun 29 09:41:17 fakefur see: https://github.com/gemian/gemini-keyboard-apps/wiki/Bootloader Jun 29 09:42:53 ok cool thanks :) Jun 29 09:43:24 still not visibile to adb Jun 29 09:43:26 *sigh Jun 29 09:48:32 do i need fastboot drivers or something? Jun 29 09:48:35 greguu, what about Void Linux aarch64? Jun 29 09:48:39 i'm used to working on linux Jun 29 09:48:49 * fakefur really hates windows Jun 29 09:48:55 fakefur, adb reboot recovery for recovery Jun 29 09:49:05 doesn't work - can't see the device Jun 29 09:49:24 i have the dead android onscreen Jun 29 09:49:40 then you're in recovery Jun 29 09:49:46 there is no recovery Jun 29 09:49:53 and i cannot flash anything Jun 29 09:49:59 i want to flash twrp Jun 29 09:50:06 dead Android is stock recovery Jun 29 09:50:20 right i know - i want to flash twrp from fastboot Jun 29 09:50:20 you need to use FlashTool before device is booted to flash recovery Jun 29 09:50:21 * canny[m] is trying to decide whether to continue to watch the NASA launch, reflash my Gemini and work from home at the same time...decisions, decisions! Jun 29 09:50:29 but my pc cannot see the device Jun 29 09:50:35 you can't switch to fastboot Jun 29 09:50:48 (or you can, but need xflash) Jun 29 09:50:48 ahhhhh ok Jun 29 09:50:59 I posted the link here before Jun 29 09:51:06 so i have to flash twrp img from the desktop flash tool? Jun 29 09:51:16 fakefur: its best to just use the planet provided flash tools Jun 29 09:51:33 adam_b_ im trying to Jun 29 09:51:34 either from Planet provided flash tools, or use xflash to boot into fastboot mode Jun 29 09:51:39 but the docs are... hazy Jun 29 09:52:07 well if your used to 'normal' android things then its confusing, just ignore all that old knowlege and its easier Jun 29 09:52:22 all i want for now is a rooted android Jun 29 09:52:23 flashing happens on the reboot Jun 29 09:52:38 and i am used to normal android things yes Jun 29 09:52:41 so you just start the flashing from the pc, then reboot the device Jun 29 09:52:50 ok thanks Jun 29 09:53:03 all: I'm thinking of getting a rechargeable BT mouse for my Gemini, any advice? Jun 29 09:53:35 @VartiWork i use a tonor one from amazon for $10 or so Jun 29 09:53:41 greguu: I lost the URL you sent me yesterday, could you please paste it her again? Jun 29 09:53:44 works a treat on everything i've tried it with Jun 29 09:53:45 her = here Jun 29 09:53:58 fakefur: thanks, I'll look into it Jun 29 09:54:11 had it for nearly 2yrs and still going strong Jun 29 09:54:53 dumb question... how do i flash twrp using the flash tool? Jun 29 09:55:39 do i have to replace the one in the folder i downloaded with the twrp image? Jun 29 09:56:22 NeKit: can be done. https://wiki.voidlinux.eu/Raspberry_Pi#Rpi3_aarch64_support_as_landed Jun 29 09:56:34 and then flash the whole thing again? Jun 29 09:56:48 or can i just flash the recovery image? Jun 29 09:56:50 fakefur: you can use the 'download only' option and tick only the bits you want to flash Jun 29 09:57:01 adam_b_ thnx Jun 29 09:57:05 this is weird Jun 29 09:57:05 (so long as the same scatter file) Jun 29 09:57:29 NeKit: or just build via xbps-src.. as I do for armv5tel for Zaurus Jun 29 09:58:12 NeKit: can be done. https://wiki.voidlinux.eu/Raspberry_Pi#Rpi3_aarch64_support_as_landed Jun 29 09:58:37 dupe Jun 29 09:58:48 it won't let me select the twrp image Jun 29 09:59:28 you rename the files so the twrp one replaces the other (or edit the scatter file as its just text and the important bit to keep the same is the sizes) Jun 29 09:59:38 ahhhhh doh! Jun 29 10:01:28 adam_b_ nope that didn't work either Jun 29 10:01:45 you restarted the flash too? Jun 29 10:02:14 now i get boundary check failed Jun 29 10:02:25 so you've already flashed with this scatter file? Jun 29 10:02:31 yes Jun 29 10:02:45 then the sizes should be the same so boundarys the same Jun 29 10:02:48 when i tried to get root before Jun 29 10:02:56 greguu: found it: http://support.logitech.com/en_us/product/ultrathin-touch-mouse-t630 Jun 29 10:03:01 did it work though Jun 29 10:03:15 adam_b_ i didn't get any errors Jun 29 10:03:21 didn't get root that i could tell Jun 29 10:03:22 and a big tick at the end Jun 29 10:03:25 yes Jun 29 10:03:30 very strange Jun 29 10:03:30 the big tick Jun 29 10:04:08 you've downloaded the flash tool recently? Jun 29 10:04:14 last week Jun 29 10:04:31 should be fine then, early versions didn't work with the partial flashing thing Jun 29 10:05:20 the recovery img is different size of course Jun 29 10:05:27 would that be upsetting it? Jun 29 10:05:36 so long as its less than the 16M of the partition it should be fine Jun 29 10:05:44 twrp is 23mb Jun 29 10:05:49 then you've the wrong twrp Jun 29 10:06:02 i downloaded from the twrp site for the gemini Jun 29 10:06:27 do i have to use the unofficial one from xda? Jun 29 10:07:19 twrp-geminipda-3.2.1-0.img - 14.8MB? Jun 29 10:07:31 mine was 3.2.1.1 Jun 29 10:07:46 http://support.planetcom.co.uk/index.php/Gemini_Firmware#Team_Win_Recovery_Project_.28TWRP_alternative_recovery_image.29 Jun 29 10:09:21 thnx Jun 29 10:09:38 note I've never used TWRP, only going on whats on the site etc, I have no use for it Jun 29 10:10:04 others here can help you more, hopefully someone knows why the newer one is bigger Jun 29 10:10:51 adam_b_ all i'm trying to do is get a rooted stock android Jun 29 10:11:02 well that shouldn't need any twrp'ing Jun 29 10:11:02 until the sailfish or debian options are viable Jun 29 10:11:18 i flashed the rooted firmware but cannot get root anyhow Jun 29 10:11:33 i couldn't flash supersu Jun 29 10:12:06 do i have to specifically unloack my bootloader btw? or is it unlocked in dev mode by that checkbox? Jun 29 10:12:36 there is no locking so far as I can tell, totally unsecure device Jun 29 10:12:48 ok cool ... kind of Jun 29 10:12:57 yea I've mentioned it Jun 29 10:13:09 so given that i have already flashed a rooted firmware how do i actually get root? Jun 29 10:13:26 i tried installing adaway but no go Jun 29 10:15:29 best if someone else answers that, its not something I've any use for (on Debian) Jun 29 10:15:47 do you find debian useful right now? Jun 29 10:15:54 as in usable? Jun 29 10:16:03 that's what i really want Jun 29 10:16:03 well I'm trying to make it useful Jun 29 10:16:48 i was inda hoping for a more useful and usable device which is why i decided on rooted android for now Jun 29 10:17:22 if / when linux or sailfish gets good i will dump the android firmware and go purely debian or sailfish Jun 29 10:17:23 fakefur: I am using only Debian on my Gemini. Been using it every day this week (only received it last Saturday). Perfectly usable for my use case: taking notes, reading/sending emails, and the odd erc/twitter. Jun 29 10:17:52 esfraga are you using the debian available from planet? Jun 29 10:18:07 i have wifi only model btw Jun 29 10:18:09 fakefur: thats the only version I know of Jun 29 10:18:25 yes; double boot with Debian default, Android second. Installed various bits of extra software using the standard Debian 'sudo apt install' and ready to go! Jun 29 10:18:27 in the sense that the stuff we make gets into that version Jun 29 10:18:48 esfraga is android required? Jun 29 10:18:59 I do have the 4G version but don't have a SIM card in it so essentially functioning as a wifi only model. However, the boot images are different possibly? Jun 29 10:19:12 esfraga yes i think they are Jun 29 10:19:20 No, I don't think Android is required but wanted to make sure I had a fallback should Debian not been enough for my uses. Jun 29 10:19:31 esfraga right makes sense Jun 29 10:19:50 i am so over google that i don't really want anything of them these days Jun 29 10:20:01 my main phone runs lineageos + microg Jun 29 10:20:20 In my case, it's more of a "I want emacs + org-mode" instead of what I don't want. But I sympathize with your not wanting Google... Jun 29 10:20:26 i run debian day to day for all my laptops Jun 29 10:20:38 apat from my macbook which is for ios work Jun 29 10:21:12 Yeah, me too. The great thing is *all* of my systems except for my mobile phone are running Debian. Makes keeping stuff in sync very easy (mirror my home directory essentially between desktop, laptop and now Gemini). Jun 29 10:21:14 i would be happy enough with command line debian tbh Jun 29 10:21:40 it's just the kernel *sigh* Jun 29 10:22:22 yes. hope you sort it out. took me a few tries over the weekend. couldn't flash from my Debian desktop so had to use a laptop that still had Windows on it. Jun 29 10:22:26 but anyways... if i flash twrp etc and don't like it or whatevs i can just flash debian right? Jun 29 10:22:43 why do you want twrp anyway? Jun 29 10:23:17 esfraga i'm used to it and being able to flash supersu and make backups etc Jun 29 10:23:25 clear dalvik caches Jun 29 10:24:00 I'm not sure it really is all that useful in this case but my experience with twrp is minimal (and not positive but long story). Jun 29 10:24:40 well if i could find a way to get root otherwise i would not bother Jun 29 10:24:48 but i can't so it's a last shot Jun 29 10:25:09 Isn't there a rooted Android image that you can flash? Or is that only for 4G models? Jun 29 10:25:21 (and my way of getting root is simply using Debian ;-)) Jun 29 10:25:25 esfraga i flashed it already but i still have no way to allow root Jun 29 10:25:49 so i need to flash supersu and that is in the system partition Jun 29 10:26:03 maybe i can do it from fastboot but that can't see the device etc etc Jun 29 10:26:05 Ah, okay. Beyond my android-fu. Jun 29 10:26:08 down the rabbit hole Jun 29 10:26:35 i basically try to use android as if it were linux Jun 29 10:26:52 which it kinda is Jun 29 10:26:57 fakefur: if there are no android folk about just now, I've heard them talking about magisk as needed Jun 29 10:27:00 especially when you de-google it Jun 29 10:27:03 yeah, I went down that route a while back and gave up. the Gemini is a god-send. Jun 29 10:27:47 magisk allows you to hide root for apps that won't run with it Jun 29 10:27:52 i don't care about that Jun 29 10:28:01 I tried de-googling an Android tablet (Nexus 7) a few years ago. Installed cyanogenmod which helped but it is really difficult to use Android without Google. Jun 29 10:28:02 would never do banking etc on a rooted device anyways Jun 29 10:28:20 esfraga the microg thing makes it viable Jun 29 10:28:40 i have push notifications etc all working as well as location services using open providers Jun 29 10:28:49 it actually works pretty damn well Jun 29 10:29:00 my solution is my phone is for phone + hot spot only; gemini (previously OpenPandora, similar system) for mobile work. Jun 29 10:29:26 esfraga that works but i don't want to have to carry 2 devices everywhere Jun 29 10:29:48 since i have no google on it anyways i don't mind Jun 29 10:29:55 yes, that's the problem but my phone is also an excellent camera and gemini doesn't have one (yet?). Jun 29 10:30:10 anyway, gotta run. best of luck with root/twrp/etc.! Jun 29 10:30:30 :) Jun 29 10:30:50 adam_b_ do i use download only in the flash tool? or firmware upgrade? do you know? Jun 29 10:31:19 the firmware upgrade will re-partition and clear your device, the download only will just update bits as ticked Jun 29 10:31:33 thnx mucho Jun 29 10:31:36 :) Jun 29 10:31:37 but neither will work with a twrp that is too big for the partition its trying to write to Jun 29 10:31:59 yes i got the proper one you linked to Jun 29 10:32:01 thanks for that Jun 29 10:32:31 hmmm 'proper' as in first release that probably has half the features missing and so is smaller... Jun 29 10:32:47 lol Jun 29 10:32:51 at least i can flash supersu Jun 29 12:04:57 Omegamoon, I've seen your nickname in linux-rockchip. Do you have Alfawise Z28 Pro TV thing? Jun 29 12:06:16 I wonder how is it compared to ROCK64, since whole device is going to be cheaper than ROCK64 + delivery Jun 29 12:36:25 NeKit, I have the Z28... not sure if it is the exact same as Alfawise Z28 Pro Jun 29 12:37:03 I guess so. Is it fine with mainline? Jun 29 12:37:07 compared to Rock64 it is quite shitty actually Jun 29 12:37:35 in which way? Jun 29 12:39:02 well, there is a reason that it is cheap... the components used are not that good Jun 29 12:41:49 mainline works, but not all parts Jun 29 12:42:06 see a status overview here: http://opensource.rock-chips.com/wiki_Status_Matrix#Mainline_Kernel_Status_Matrix Jun 29 12:42:52 but the 4.4 kernel is pretty stable, and has good support from Rockchip Jun 29 12:43:11 if only MediaTek had that level of support... Jun 29 12:44:45 oh yes Jun 29 12:46:40 Omegamoon, what changes did you have to make in config to avoid early freeze before switching to userspace? Jun 29 12:55:25 NeKit, I made quite some config changes, disabling most of the device drivers, and then started to build everything up again Jun 29 12:57:13 there was 1 blocking issue... in register_pm_qos_misc, which I bypassed by just returning -1 here: https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v4.4.119/source/kernel/power/qos.c#L702 Jun 29 12:57:34 sorry, that is for 4.4.119... Jun 29 12:58:48 https://elixir.bootlin.com/linux/v4.18-rc2/source/kernel/power/qos.c#L703 Jun 29 13:01:19 then it boots up to initramfs, but then a lot of stuff is missing... it looked to me that mounting from emmc didn't work Jun 29 13:08:29 NeKit, actually, I am now trying to use a 4.4 kernel which has a lot of the MTK drivers in place... just to see what is missing in there Jun 29 13:25:49 Mycroft AI and Plasma-Mycroft running on the Gemini PDA: https://youtu.be/ZMxZm9ZtQ68 Jun 29 13:31:33 which one? Jun 29 13:32:02 Omegamoon, I could provide you with ODM kernel for 4.4, but it lacks drivers specifically for 6797 Jun 29 13:32:45 Aix_, is it your video? Jun 29 13:33:30 Omegamoon, like https://github.com/NotKit/kernel-4.4-alps Jun 29 13:34:00 Aix_, if yes, I would be curious how usable is Plasma on it and if you installed it in Debian or custom distro Jun 29 13:39:59 Netkit: Yup my video :) i am currently the developer of Plasma-Mycroft, it's running Debian Buster because of Qt 5.9 dependencies.. thanks to @adam_b[m] for helping with the base for Debian Buster :) Jun 29 13:40:18 NeKit, yes something like that... yours is based on a MT6757 and I am using one based on a MT6763 Jun 29 13:41:46 Aix_, that's cool. How is performance? We should be able to use Wayland on Buster with some fixes to KWin Jun 29 13:42:03 Aix_: glad someone is making use of it, if you've patched the plasma keyboard nabbing problems you might want to branch that in gemian org for others too Jun 29 13:42:05 Netkit: I would love to get it working on postmarket os and plasma mobile shell but with the rotated touch its not working.. I am currently trying to port plasma mobile shell over Debian Buster Jun 29 13:43:33 I got the shell working but other kwin issues on X11 seems like seems plasma-mobile is optimised for Wayland Jun 29 13:44:55 you can run kwin on Wayland if it's recompiled with hwcomposer backend enabled, but it needs hacks for rotation Jun 29 13:45:25 but once output is rotated, touch screen is fine Jun 29 13:46:34 adam_b[m]: should I make a PR to gemian ? I'm currently disabling al keyboard shortcuts manually.. I have a good config working for storway Buster Jun 29 13:47:39 For plasma only tho don't know how it effects other desktop environments Jun 29 13:50:00 Aix_: generally I think its best to add people to the gemain org, and do reviews before building components (so far only NeKit and I have build server access so when you have things ready for a build you have to bug one of us) Jun 29 13:51:54 but yea we'd want anything being built for gemian to not break other users Jun 29 13:53:18 I put together some thoughts on where next: https://github.com/gemian/gemini-keyboard-apps/wiki/DebianTP3Planning Jun 29 13:53:51 So we could move buster to Wayland (with NeKit's suggested compile flags added) Jun 29 13:53:53 Ok cool adam_b_ once I think I have something unbreakable with Debian Buster and Plasma I'll submit a PR.. in the mean time anyone who got Buster running Mycroft works great head over to https://GitHub.com/mycroftai/installers and grab the Debian script :) Jun 29 14:36:29 but I guess Gemini could be interesting testbed for Plasma Mobile, as we want touch friendly UI, but have keyboard nonetheless, which allows to run some desktop apps as well Jun 29 14:36:41 + they have dialer UI Jun 29 14:44:31 Netkit: Plasma-mobile would be nice platform if the shell gets working :) rotation and touch being the worst right now.. physical keyboard works good minus the Gemini PDA keyboard and disabling all power management shortcuts Jun 29 14:48:42 what happens if you run it with X11? Jun 29 14:57:39 Omegamoon, which approach do you use for dts? from mainline or from Gemini kernel? Jun 29 15:08:15 NeKit, I take pretty much the mainline one Jun 29 15:09:52 Omegamoon, but on mainline, register_pm_qos_misc caused the freeze then? Jun 29 15:10:16 missing emmc is fine, I think, but USB would be nice to have as first option Jun 29 15:13:53 NeKit, for me register_pm_qos_misc crashed all the time, to be more precise, when registering [cpu_dma_latency] as misc device Jun 29 15:30:42 @nekit plaema mobile on Debian buster.. shell is non responsive to touch events, my debugging seems to come down to mediatek libhybris not getting any touch feedback on pressure values https://usercontent.irccloud-cdn.com/file/XW8H8QW3/IMG_20180617_012553.jpg Jun 29 15:40:44 On greping xinput I get the mediatek touchpad with x and y values but seems like it needs a fix on the android side of .idc where the touchpad is being defined for pressure, I tried modifying the .idc files in /system/usr/idc but pressure doesn't seem to work Jun 29 15:45:33 anyone know if there is a way on android to prevent the close Jun 29 15:45:36 * and open of the lid from switching to the home screen? Jun 29 16:52:11 i should know this, but don't -- what file and where in it does one change the scaling factor for gtk applications? Jun 29 17:18:28 hey there, trying to get android+debian+sailfish on my geminipda (x27) from ubuntu 16.04. i got the flashtool running but it cant find the pda. i installed the dependencies, created the udev rules, restarted the udev service (even rebooted in between), im using the left usb port, pda is turned off, yet all i get is: https://pastebin.com/6PBCALsF - then i though: well, maybe building from source gets me some fixes, got it building against Qt4.8, runs Jun 29 17:18:28 (after copying stuff from Lib/ subfolder and key.ini from distributed flashtool) but it cant load a scatter file (i get an empty errorbox). any clues? Jun 29 17:31:50 x29a: didn't work for me on Debian (both unstable and stretch; builds but doesn't work on amd64, has x86 blobs so doesn't even build on arm64), too Jun 29 17:32:14 ok, so windows VM? Jun 29 17:32:16 x29a: had to use Windows for that Jun 29 17:33:07 a VM might work, I had bare-metal Win7 on an old machine Jun 29 17:37:53 what a pity Jun 29 17:38:08 i might update to ubuntu 1804 as that is mentioned on the guide Jun 29 17:38:42 wine? :p Jun 29 17:39:24 the flashtool is so blobby that there's not much gain in pretending you compile it from source Jun 29 17:42:00 did you use the left usb port? Jun 29 17:42:44 I also started the operation and then restarted the gemini Jun 29 17:43:01 does your gemini show up in lsusb? Jun 29 17:52:37 i see the preloader in dmesg Jun 29 17:52:42 lemme check later Jun 29 17:53:10 I flashed my gemeni on Ubuntu 18.04. Worked flawless after all. Jun 29 17:53:44 I also saw the preloader and was unsure if this correct. It seems it is. Jun 29 17:54:18 But i didn't set the udev permissions. I ran the flash tool in a root shell. Jun 29 18:14:04 Ok.. udev has got nothing to do with the permissions. Anyway. It didn't work here without root permissions. I didn't investigate why. Jun 29 19:10:28 gobuki: as for root, i think it has to do with accessing usb devices, some guides suggest to put your user into the dialout group. the udev will block network manager to not grab the device (since there is none created). i started the flashtool as user root to rule that out as issue Jun 29 19:12:43 varti[m]: greetings from bled mulej, nice place.. Jun 29 19:13:31 mifritscher: it doesnt show up via lsusb (which is a good thing i think?) my dmesg is https://pastebin.com/SN0U3yfW so as you can see, the usb device disconnects shortly after appearing. on the device i get a vibrate shortly after connecting, then the battery empty (red beam) with a charging spark icon (this is when it appears in dmesg) and then a 100% battery icon (this is when the device disconnects in dmesg) Jun 29 19:14:29 yes, the preloader is the right thing for the flash tool Jun 29 19:14:59 in this moment the text output from the flash tool should spit out some lines Jun 29 19:15:29 i start the flashtool via commandline and the output i get there is the one pasted above, some device is created, then removed. flashtool does nothing. im currently trying to readback the nvram to be on the safe side for flashing Jun 29 19:15:49 https://pastebin.com/6PBCALsF this is what i get Jun 29 19:15:58 if not something seems to be wrong in udev or something Jun 29 19:16:20 I think that there should be even some lines if you but in some other usb device Jun 29 19:16:50 lemme check Jun 29 19:17:05 (do you run the tool as root? this could help) Jun 29 19:20:43 yes i do Jun 29 19:21:25 kilobyte stated above that x64 might be a problem, have you done it with a 64bit ubuntu? Jun 29 19:25:14 yep, albeit with 18.04 Jun 29 20:26:50 <_sven> i got the same problem with sp flash tool and i know one other guy having problems too, both of us use Arch Jun 29 20:42:44 Omegamoon, https://github.com/torvalds/linux/commit/966580ad236e825483abd956c99edbdc0b06476c#diff-16fe96b7723a641485312a268df1c0b8 - if we are lucky, it could be similar for 6797? Jun 29 21:05:04 NeKit: nah negative for my side, MT7622 is for routers which has different heritage from smartphone SoCs **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Jun 30 03:00:03 2018