**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Jul 23 03:00:01 2018 Jul 23 10:33:29 Has anyone popped the gemini open to resolder the speaker wires? Jul 23 11:00:58 Hacking software is safer then hacking hardware :) Jul 23 11:11:04 Yeah :P Jul 23 11:12:05 I popped the covers, and decided not to go deeper if I don't really need to Jul 23 11:12:36 I just feel like it's a hardware defect as the headphone plug is wired correctly. Jul 23 11:12:56 it probably is, but it is easily mitigated by software Jul 23 11:13:41 Well yeah, i still need to find the kernel fix though :) Jul 23 11:14:47 https://github.com/zevv/gemini-android-kernel-3.18 Jul 23 11:17:09 The boot image is in the releases at github Jul 23 11:19:07 Does that fix the stereo/not break the headphone jack too? Jul 23 11:19:36 It doesn't fix stereo on the speakers, as the sound is downmixed to mono in android userspace before it is sent to the driver Jul 23 11:19:44 It preserves proper phase on the headphones, though Jul 23 11:19:50 also fixes keyboard ghosting Jul 23 11:19:57 Oh, well maybe I'll flash that in the evening. Jul 23 11:20:27 It preserves the root in the boot+ Jul 23 11:20:53 I copied the root fs cpio from the original rooted boot image Jul 23 11:21:06 Yeah, so it should be identical to my image. Jul 23 11:21:37 The latest release is enough if I don't want to compile myself? Jul 23 11:22:40 It should be Jul 23 11:22:45 Use at your own risk, of course :) Jul 23 11:22:55 There is probably only one users of that image now Jul 23 11:23:47 Yeah, well I think that the risks are quite minimal based on your changes :) Jul 23 11:24:10 I have numerous unexpected ways to mess up travial things, you'd be surprised Jul 23 11:24:44 So you even added ghosting fix for it? Neat. Jul 23 11:24:56 I didn't, I just stole someone elses patches Jul 23 11:25:25 I just scratch my own itches, and the speaker and keyboard were both annoying the hell out of me Jul 23 11:25:51 I've had couple of times when the ghosting is annoying. Jul 23 11:26:02 But I've mostly managed with it. Jul 23 11:26:54 But yeah, I'll try that and report if I find some new issues. Jul 23 11:27:20 It hits me quite often, it probably depends on the language. In dutch all the weekdays and with 'dag', and every time I end a sentence with 'dag.' the gohsting inserts and 'esc' char - which is quite intrusive on Vi Jul 23 11:27:23 It might take till tomorrow that I have time to flash it though. Jul 23 11:28:11 I've had mostly problems with op+somehting key combination triggering the voice commands. I just disabled the google voice services to fix that. Jul 23 11:28:31 Yeah, i've had couple of accidental escs on vim to. Jul 23 11:29:05 Also I should remap the right shift to ä as it would be more usable, when writing in finnish. Jul 23 11:29:25 I almost always use the left shift anyway. Jul 23 11:32:18 I also wonder about the pgup/pgdown issue on android Jul 23 11:32:32 I feel like it's not mapped correctly. Jul 23 11:32:49 But I heard that there's some confusion how to map them anyway on android. Jul 23 11:33:01 it seems that a lot of apps do not properly recognize these, but I have not yet looked properly at how and where the scan codes are translated to keysyms, but this might also be solvable at the kernel level Jul 23 11:33:10 Maybe I should just look in termux documentation to see what it expects. Jul 23 11:33:14 And map it so. Jul 23 11:33:54 There was some xmodmap kind of tool for android too i think. Jul 23 11:34:41 I was trying to look into fixing termux myself, but I have no experience with the build environments used Jul 23 13:35:20 Zevv and razumihin , there is a thread with a very comprehensive answer on pgup/pgdn somewhere Jul 23 13:35:31 i will need to find it for you Jul 23 13:37:04 thna Jul 23 13:38:33 thanks, that is Jul 23 13:52:16 thanks Jul 23 14:05:00 hi everyone! do you know if the rounded corners on gemini are physical or something android does? can it be disabled? Jul 23 14:07:21 afaik they are physical Jul 23 14:08:16 :( Jul 23 14:08:26 yeah looks like it under sunlight Jul 23 15:35:00 I suggest setting a DPI high enough that it goes into tablet mode - frees up a good amount of space on the side where the android software home/back/etc buttons are. Jul 23 15:35:09 It looks pretty slick that way ;) Jul 23 16:13:50 what is the minimum dpi for table mode? Jul 23 16:38:03 600 Jul 23 17:50:49 Zevv and razumihin , https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=35121 Jul 23 20:19:38 so the conclusion could be that "fixing" in the kernel might break other apps, and there is no single proper solution, except to fix all individual apps Jul 23 20:19:52 thanks for finding that Jul 23 22:42:59 I'm actually the one with the twiddler Jul 23 22:43:08 but yeah.. it's a really good answer Jul 23 23:41:13 Hello Jul 23 23:42:12 I have a sharp SL-5500, what’s the best it can be upgraded to? Jul 23 23:43:39 hmm.. is this the channel for that? Jul 23 23:43:53 I have a zaurus 860, but i haven't touched it in years... **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Jul 24 03:00:00 2018