**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Jul 24 03:00:02 2018 Jul 24 07:17:30 Zevv: I'll try flashing now. Jul 24 07:23:36 Yup got up and running. Jul 24 07:24:56 Yeah, and the phase is correct :) Thankls Jul 24 07:26:35 The ghosting fix works well too. Jul 24 07:38:33 sweet Jul 24 07:39:09 I've been looking into the headphone crackling yesterday, but that'll take a bit of time Jul 24 07:39:17 no documentation and a thousand registers in the analog frontend Jul 24 07:39:31 Yeah. I'd help if I had time :) Jul 24 07:39:52 Propably the amplifier soc has some bit to modify. Jul 24 07:40:07 Most of the chinese amplifier chips have. Jul 24 07:40:17 Theres a ton of state changes when switching from speaker to headphone and back Jul 24 07:40:49 so it's a matter of finding the right sequence and either power down the amp, or not powering down the codec Jul 24 07:41:29 Yeah. Jul 24 08:20:40 Hmm... can i somehow switch the android os font? Jul 24 08:21:05 I'd like to force it to use bigger font size so the 600px tablet mode would work better. Jul 24 08:21:38 I feel like tablet style menus are much less intrusive, but i have to raise my eyeglasses to see some of the text :) Jul 24 08:28:05 acessibility -> font size is not enough? Jul 24 08:28:43 It has the trouble of editing some of the core menu functionalities. Jul 24 08:29:09 I'd like to add something like 4pt size without the operating system modifying the menus :) Jul 24 08:29:35 But well, it might not work properly as the layouts might be nested so that the borders hide parts of the text. Jul 24 08:29:46 Oh look the whole UI changes if dpi == 600, that's new to me Jul 24 08:30:10 Is there no way to force that mode with lower DPI settings? That would be easier? Jul 24 08:30:18 Yeah, it's the magic limit after which it selects the tablet version of the layout if it's available. Jul 24 08:30:31 I looked into it and seems like no. Jul 24 08:31:07 It seems that the tablet mode is activated after the screen has enough "real estate" Jul 24 08:31:16 Exposed Phab7? Jul 24 08:31:35 Somewhere it was said that it does not work on android 7 Jul 24 08:31:39 did not try though. Jul 24 08:38:40 unfortunately tablet mode moves the navigation buttons to bottom of screen, which is not nice on gemini. and the launcher menu stops working. Jul 24 08:41:13 cos-: I just removed the buttons anyway so it's not a problem. Jul 24 08:45:09 cos-: Btw what launcher menu? Jul 24 08:45:19 At least nova launcher works fine. Jul 24 08:48:52 Most annoying problemt that I really have with the tablet mode is that I cannot get feedly to have a bigger font. Jul 24 08:49:07 But the browser version works quite fine Jul 24 08:50:59 razumihin: the ^ in bottom left of screen Jul 24 08:52:35 with the default launcher Jul 24 09:05:48 Oh. Yeah, it works with nova. Jul 24 09:06:08 And as i really just removed the soft buttons i'm quite fine :) Jul 24 09:06:40 Also firefox defaults to the desktop pages on tablet mode and i like that. Jul 24 09:07:58 But yeah, i think this is a use case thing. I think gemini more like a small laptop that happens to run android than a phablet with a keyboard. Jul 24 09:11:45 iirc nova launcher is a closed source app on play store? Jul 24 09:11:58 Yeah. Jul 24 09:12:07 So not for f-droid users :( Jul 24 09:12:26 yep, i'd prefer something from f-droid Jul 24 09:13:08 Yeah, I understand that I got into playstore capitalism before f-droid existed and haven't had the motivation to quit. Jul 24 09:13:39 It seems that i've bought nova launcher something like ten years ago. Jul 24 09:34:54 use Yalp, if you can digest that Jul 24 09:41:27 someone on the forum has PM'ed me asking for help on how to fix the rubberized strip detaching from the back of the Gemini... does anybody have any suggestion? Is the strip glued to the unit, or just stuck between the borders of the hinge? Jul 24 09:43:49 I believe the hinge is a single, detachable part, I wonder if a replacement hinge could be ordered from Planet Jul 24 09:45:06 VartiWork: the rubber strip is only attached by little extensions going through small holes Jul 24 09:45:28 I just glued mine with something called "bison kit", some kind of glue that stays elastic Jul 24 09:45:31 works like a charm Jul 24 09:52:02 ok thanks for the hint, so there's no glue under the strip. Did you remove it, or did you just apply the glue where the strip wasn't attached to the hinge? Jul 24 09:54:11 I guess you can't just slide the strip sideways, since as you mention it's attached through some holes Jul 24 09:55:06 Just wiggle a bit Jul 24 09:55:09 :) Jul 24 10:08:48 I see... it's easier to fix it than I thought Jul 24 10:23:21 mine is also getting loose, need to apply some glue to it if it gets too annoying Jul 24 10:25:16 I think any butylacetate glue should be fine. Jul 24 10:26:06 Btw, planet should really put up some spare part info. I'm still worried if i break my gemini that I can't fix it as there's no parts and even getting a new one is hard. Jul 24 10:26:51 It's become pretty much my favourite mobile device so I'd hate to be without one :P Jul 24 10:27:12 a friend saw my gemini and immediately wanted to purchase one. finnish keyboard variant is sold out and there's no way to backorder.. i suppose it's good that there is demand for gemini. Jul 24 10:27:48 I think you can buy the finnish variant from indiegogo still. Jul 24 10:28:12 I'm not 100% sure, but i think one of my friends bought one. Jul 24 10:29:25 <_sven> i still did not received my german qwertz key caps Jul 24 10:35:04 Of course it could be a good idea to buy another one from ebay now for spares. Jul 24 10:35:14 As there seem to be lot's of disappointed gemini owners. Jul 24 11:51:43 Flying today, just made it through security. The only item in question was the Gemini. The TSA agent had a few questions about the device, and swabbed it. Jul 24 11:52:36 "Where can i buy this?" Jul 24 12:18:30 last week a colleague of mine saw my Gemini and asked about it, at first he thought it was a laptop battery Jul 24 12:20:25 after removing and reinstalling pulse, trying to touch various audio things (such as running pulseaudio or mpd manually) f*ing *reboots* my [debian] Gemini Jul 24 12:25:55 kernel crash? Jul 24 12:27:24 * Kero would guess either that, or a systemd/init death: nothing in the logs. Jul 24 12:27:56 but since the kernel was fine before I removed + reinstalled user space stuff... Jul 24 12:42:09 VartiWork: well, just for shits&giggles I did try charging Pinebook fron the Gemini: it does work! Jul 24 12:43:14 so does the other way. Do both at the same time for perpetuum mobile :p Jul 24 12:45:17 unlimited battery yay! Jul 24 12:46:45 I wish i could charge things from ipad pro Jul 24 12:46:57 It's got so ridiculously huge battery. Jul 24 12:48:18 noticed this while browsing the channel's logs: Jul 24 12:48:23 "Jul 21 02:54:24 Hello gemini Jul 21 02:54:49 My birthday is June 9th Jul 21 02:54:57 Gemini" Jul 24 12:48:32 wrong Gemini I guess :) Jul 24 12:50:35 Jul 18 17:55:25 oesf forum still won't allow me to register, "password section incomplete", which is BS. Jul 24 12:51:09 Kero: are you still having problems to register on the forum? Jul 24 12:57:11 ah, reboot is related to headset being plugged in. But only happens since I messed with pulseaudio settings. Jul 24 13:00:03 VartiWork: now it worked, probably because I used a lousy password. Jul 24 13:00:21 (didn\t have the strong one at hand) Jul 24 13:01:23 (which was some 20 random characters; satifying the "?" help, but probably still violating some rule) Jul 24 13:02:06 now I have to wait, I suppose... Jul 24 13:10:21 Kero: you are now validated, thanks for registering Jul 24 13:11:16 thx! Jul 24 13:13:19 I usually manage to approve the new members within 1/2 hours during working hours (on GMT), up to 24hrs if registered during the weekend and without posting in the new members thread Jul 24 13:14:31 unless someone chooses a nick like "Payday Loans Online" :) Jul 24 13:15:40 (there's one like that right now in the validation queue, and it keeps popping in) Jul 24 16:48:39 I just made a fix in termux for pageup/pagedown. Pull request is submitted, debug build available at http://zevv.nl/div/termux-gemini-debug.apk for those who dare run my code. Jul 24 17:37:31 gemini stuck in recovery mode cannot flash or do anything Jul 24 17:37:38 woke up this morning and it was in recovery mode odd Jul 24 17:39:08 ahh found the issue planet computers should tell us to remove the sd card prior to flashing that was somehow causing a communication issue with the flash software Jul 24 17:42:41 stil nothing cant get past recovery mode Jul 24 17:56:16 prepare flashtool and hit "download" so that is ready and looking for the device Jul 24 17:56:31 and then force reboot the gemni by holding esc for 10+ seconds Jul 24 17:56:42 or esc + silver button, I forgot Jul 24 17:56:59 did you try that? Jul 24 18:04:29 tried it keeps going into recovery mode Jul 24 18:04:30 so weird Jul 24 18:04:52 even after i flshed it Jul 24 18:15:14 that is weird indeed Jul 24 18:15:39 never happened to me, so no advice I can give Jul 24 18:17:20 i am going to try flaslhing a different firmware Jul 24 18:17:23 maybe an earlier variant Jul 24 18:17:28 i can't get it out of recovery mode Jul 24 18:17:30 it randomly went into it Jul 24 18:52:37 that might be part of the gemini random reboot phenomenon that lots of us on the linux side have experienced. Jul 24 18:54:52 yea but it is now bricked Jul 24 18:55:03 it went into recovery mode and no matter waht I flash it with it wont leave recovery mode Jul 24 18:55:26 my device is DOA Jul 24 18:57:05 It was a good run Jul 24 18:57:11 march to almost august Jul 24 19:02:14 Let's try something Jul 24 19:02:33 you might want to try to put on TWRP using fastboot Jul 24 19:02:44 As long as there is recovery, there is hope Jul 24 19:03:02 http://zevv.nl/div/twrp_gemini_land2.img Jul 24 19:03:08 That's the latest TWRP for the gemini Jul 24 19:03:53 let me try that Jul 24 19:04:00 Do you have fastboot available? Jul 24 19:04:24 on linux (debian, ubuntu) install android-tools-fastboot Jul 24 19:04:31 on windows there's https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=48915118#post48915118 Jul 24 19:10:54 wait, did you try to wipe all data from recovery Jul 24 19:11:00 that helped me once on another phone Jul 24 19:11:13 before going to twrp Jul 24 19:13:44 yea i wiped all data several times Jul 24 19:13:49 still goes into recovery mode Jul 24 19:14:25 no planets icon Jul 24 19:18:39 going to try to boot up in linux only see if that solves the issue Jul 24 19:18:42 make it the default OS Jul 24 19:20:04 weird Jul 24 19:21:29 it just rebooted randomly and did this Jul 24 19:21:33 i hope it is not a hardware issue Jul 24 20:02:40 any luck yet? Jul 24 20:04:32 hello, no idea if anyone can help me with this; I´ve been at it two days and beginning to lose steam. My Gemini doesn´t detect my SIM card, I suppose because it doesn´t have IMEIs anymore (dialing `*#06#` gives me a blank imei). I have been unable to restore IMEIs, no matter what method I tried Jul 24 20:04:56 The log of my tribulations is here: https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=35426&st=0&gopid=289193&#entry289193 Jul 24 20:05:30 I´ve truly tried every solution I´ve come accross, no matter how unlikely or obscure, but nothing helped Jul 24 20:06:16 I´m currently considering flashing TWRP so I can install Xposed so I can install Xposed IMEI changer, this while knowing full well that the chance of it working is near none Jul 24 20:07:15 If anyone can help in any way, I´d be very grateful Jul 25 00:44:43 no luck at all Jul 25 00:44:48 went back to my old phone **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Jul 25 03:00:02 2018