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Jul 31 07:36:06 <hgwells628[m]> Anybody know what's up with the refresh rate?
Jul 31 07:36:24 <hgwells628[m]> Am I the only one with 53.99hz?
Jul 31 07:36:49 <hgwells628[m]> Is there anything I can do to change this?
Jul 31 07:37:20 <hgwells628[m]> It'd probably be fine, except my emulators don't ha
Jul 31 07:37:34 <VartiWork> refresh rate of the screen? Where can you check that?
Jul 31 07:37:35 <hgwells628[m]> handle it well*
Jul 31 07:37:54 <hgwells628[m]> PPSSPP in particular has audio problems when you're not running 60hz
Jul 31 07:38:05 <hgwells628[m]> I downloaded an app for more screen info
Jul 31 07:38:51 <hgwells628[m]> (PPSSPP also has it under Tools>System Information, and I know that's a fairly common app)
Jul 31 07:38:58 <VartiWork> AFAIK every non-CRT monitor/screen can only run at a fixed refresh rate, but I might be wrong
Jul 31 07:39:40 <hgwells628[m]> They can vary now, AFAIK
Jul 31 07:40:09 <hgwells628[m]> Maybe it's all software trickery and blank frames
Jul 31 07:41:13 <VartiWork> aha
Jul 31 07:42:15 * VartiWork is now installing ppsspp
Jul 31 07:43:11 <VartiWork> nice GUI btw
Jul 31 07:43:23 <VartiWork> 53.980Hz here
Jul 31 07:44:03 <hgwells628[m]> So similar, but not quite the same
Jul 31 07:44:26 <hgwells628[m]> Probably within manufacturing tolerances?
Jul 31 07:48:57 <VartiWork> no idea why we have it different... it would be a good idea to open a thread and ask people what are their refresh rate
Jul 31 07:49:51 <VartiWork> btw found this app, but it only mentions Android TV and it has a lot of drawbacks: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.tv.hz&hl=en
Jul 31 07:50:59 <hgwells628[m]> Also apparently not compatible, at least with my device
Jul 31 07:55:27 <hgwells628[m]> https://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2023789
Jul 31 07:55:32 <VartiWork> hgwells628[m]: an interesting thread: https://github.com/hrydgard/ppsspp/issues/5135
Jul 31 07:55:43 <hgwells628[m]> Looks like it can be clocked down
Jul 31 07:56:12 <hgwells628[m]> So unless the display is natively 53hz for whatever reason, it should be
Jul 31 07:56:21 <hgwells628[m]> do-able
Jul 31 07:57:18 <VartiWork> RetroArch apparently allows to force a custom refresh rate, on Android too
Jul 31 07:59:08 <hgwells628[m]> I'll look into that if I can't change the refresh rate
Jul 31 08:09:15 <VartiWork> ok, please let me know if it works
Jul 31 08:10:38 <hgwells628[m]> I'm sending an email to support, to ask if this is the hardware or software, will pass along what I learn
Jul 31 08:40:55 <VartiWork> thanks
Jul 31 12:24:39 <Guest21928> Regarding the Fn+Arrows issue in Termux: https://github.com/termux/termux-app/issues/731#issuecomment-409201688
Jul 31 12:47:09 <Zevv> Guest21928: well, that makes sense. I did not know about the fallback mechanism, but that explains
Jul 31 12:47:14 <Zevv> Thanks for figurin that out
Jul 31 12:48:36 <Guest21928> If any other app sees Fn+Up as just Up, it's probably the same issue
Jul 31 12:49:41 <Guest21928> I think JuiceSSH and (Irssi) Connectbot might have the same problem
Jul 31 12:49:43 <Zevv> Likely
Jul 31 12:50:29 <Zevv> Your fix is much cleaner, although it will still lack other modifiers on pgup/pgdown
Jul 31 12:50:45 <Guest21928> It shouldn't
Jul 31 12:50:55 <Zevv> I does, becuase it's just lacking in termux :)
Jul 31 12:51:05 <Zevv> But that does not have anything to do with the Fn key combos
Jul 31 12:51:21 <Guest21928> Oh, well in that case yes :)
Jul 31 12:51:23 <Zevv> But we can create a separate pull request for that
Jul 31 12:52:48 <Guest21928> Apparently the Fn key feature was added in Android 3.0, so many apps might have never added a check for it
Jul 31 12:53:57 <Guest21928> Anything that relies on checking for Ctrl/Shift/Alt etc and assuming that any key event without those has no modifiers at all will have the same problem
Jul 31 12:54:07 <Zevv> So now we wait for the termux developers to respond I guess; it will be up to them to decide how to handle this.
Jul 31 12:54:14 <Zevv> Sure
Jul 31 12:56:42 <Zevv> Do you have your changes in a branch somewhere?
Jul 31 13:06:39 <Guest21928> Not yet, I suppose I could make a more "proper" fix and create a pull request (haven't done that before)
Jul 31 13:19:04 <Zevv> I can do that, if that's a problem for you
Jul 31 13:20:02 <Zevv> From your post I understand there are basically only two changes, right?
Jul 31 13:21:45 <cos-> oh, nice explanation on the issue. i hope the pr gets accepted.
Jul 31 13:33:25 <Guest21928> Yeah, only two one-line changes if that's the correct way to fix the problem.
Jul 31 16:09:49 <Zevv> Guest21928: I'll put out a request for this one: https://github.com/zevv/termux-app/commit/e71ed7b2923caa770423c5687f0bb6d7b9718521
Jul 31 16:09:58 <Zevv> agree?
Jul 31 16:12:20 <Guest21928> Zevv: Sure, go ahead
Aug 01 01:22:37 <hgwells628[m]> No word from Planetcom about the refresh rate, just so you know I didn't forget or find a workaround and neglect to fill you guys in
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