**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 01 03:00:01 2018 Aug 01 03:00:46 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 03:00:46 I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/ Aug 01 03:00:53 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 03:00:53 I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/ Aug 01 03:00:53 Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate Aug 01 03:01:21 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 03:08:59 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! 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Aug 01 09:18:03 the conf file contains stuff that is nothing even remotely like configuration Aug 01 09:19:03 ah. `repowerd-cli` Aug 01 09:19:38 VartiWork: fentanyl and links to blogs about 'sightings of little girls'....nasty stuff indeed! Aug 01 09:21:26 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 09:23:48 canny[m]: creepy stuff indeed Aug 01 09:26:16 https://freenode.net/news/spambot-attack Aug 01 09:27:28 set the channel +r while this is going on... Aug 01 09:27:52 i know that might very well have a detrimental impact on the matrix bridge, but right now that spam is just... yeah Aug 01 09:38:15 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 09:40:20 repowerd can e.g. suspend after 5 minutes of inactivity. Aug 01 09:40:25 How does it measure inactivity? Aug 01 09:41:08 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 09:43:47 There seems to be some weird spambot attack going on trying to discredit the freenode staff. Freenode website has more info about it Aug 01 09:44:06 oh VartiWork just said that, sorry for the noise Aug 01 09:47:38 leinir: thanks for the suggestion, I'll now ping greguu about the issue and decide what to do, setting +r seems like a sensible move. I guess that, as soon as it would be set, all the not-registered users here would be automatically kicked out of the channel Aug 01 09:47:42 Zevv: np Aug 01 09:48:13 I wonder if there's any way to check the registration status of all the users at once Aug 01 09:51:39 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 09:51:42 I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/ Aug 01 09:51:46 Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate Aug 01 09:51:49 A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/ Aug 01 10:01:08 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 10:43:59 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 10:53:59 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 10:54:03 I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/ Aug 01 10:54:06 Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate Aug 01 10:54:09 A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/ Aug 01 11:31:59 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 11:32:02 I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/ Aug 01 11:32:06 Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate Aug 01 11:32:09 A fascinating blog by freenode staff member Matthew 'mst' Trout https://MattSTrout.com/ Aug 01 11:33:28 Would setting channel mode +s (hide channel from public listings) help keep those bots out? Aug 01 11:33:35 Too late Aug 01 11:33:51 can we refuse unregistered users for now? Aug 01 11:34:12 I second that Aug 01 11:34:28 Do they have cached lists of channels to spam, or do they just look up publicly-visible channels every time? A lazy bot coder might have done the latter Aug 01 11:34:49 Click here [ ] to opt out Aug 01 11:35:20 I'd say mode +r and kick the leftover bots Aug 01 11:35:36 make a notification on the OESF forum for those who can not get in Aug 01 11:37:02 add +g so everyone can invite Aug 01 11:38:06 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 11:40:24 VartiWork: could you help us out here? The channel is unusable as it is now Aug 01 12:02:55 on normal irc +s prevents spambots Aug 01 12:05:22 yeah but it's too late, they already know about the channel Aug 01 12:08:29 Has it been tested that the bots remember channels, instead of just doing LIST or similar every time they connect? Aug 01 12:08:35 If it's the latter, then +s would actually work Aug 01 12:09:16 let's try that, then Aug 01 12:24:43 they appeared on other channels consistently before they appeared here. feels like remembering to me :( Aug 01 12:31:57 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 12:53:46 Had to allow for several adjustments, not least for fixing include directives in the kernel sources, but mostly following https://github.com/gemian/gemini-keyboard-apps/wiki/KernelCompilation Aug 01 12:54:03 i booted my own kernel on the Gemini. Aug 01 12:54:29 Only change I made in the config: CONFIG_LOCALVERSION Aug 01 12:59:27 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 13:00:46 Kero: congrats :) Aug 01 13:06:43 Now first to write down what I did/changed & then onto the real work Aug 01 13:07:18 and what will be the real work? Aug 01 13:11:41 sorry for not answering earlier, I was in a meeting until now Aug 01 13:12:15 just a sec, validating users now Aug 01 13:12:26 \o/ Aug 01 13:20:58 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 13:20:58 I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/ Aug 01 13:20:58 Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate Aug 01 13:32:18 What I modified following the krnel ompilation guide: https://chmeee.org/#GeminiPDA/LinuxKernel Aug 01 13:32:42 Zevv: mainlining, eventually :) Aug 01 13:34:17 probably understanding what is going on and fixing things, first. Aug 01 13:35:07 can we access all hardware? how? Aug 01 13:41:06 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 13:42:13 Kero: well, I wish you tons of good luck and a year of free time for that Aug 01 13:43:04 drivers/misc/mediatek Aug 01 13:43:06 yeah. One thing is, I had free time, but now I have a paid assignment until the end of the year. Starting September, I expect Aug 01 13:43:38 There is tons of propriatary drivers, all living in the wrong place, using the wrong interfaces and wrong code style Aug 01 13:44:12 sound/soc/mediatek, also nice Aug 01 13:44:25 someone was already working on audio. Since audio already annoys me, I might assist. Aug 01 13:44:42 I want pulseaudio out and aslmixer to just work. Aug 01 13:45:47 That's userspace Aug 01 13:46:00 The audio drivers are alsa drivers, you do not need pulse on top of that, if you do not want Aug 01 13:46:14 alsamixer needs a working interface to work - it doesn't Aug 01 13:46:28 Ah ok, the controls are missing Aug 01 13:46:53 last time I removed pulseaudio didn't go too well... Aug 01 13:47:03 I've been inside the audio code, there's tons of register settings for the analoge front end without any descriptions Aug 01 13:47:10 jikes Aug 01 13:47:35 stuff like Aug 01 13:47:35 Afe_Set_Reg(AFE_ASRC_CON3, 0x00400000, 0xffffffff); Afe_Set_Reg(AFE_ASRC_CON4, 0x00065900, 0xffffffff); Aug 01 13:47:39 Afe_Set_Reg(AFE_ASRC_CON6, 0x007F188F, 0xffffffff); Aug 01 13:47:58 I've been digging to get the audio crackle/static muted, but I gave up already Aug 01 13:47:59 heh, I thought `amixer contents` already daunting Aug 01 13:48:17 Did you write down where you looked and what worked/didn't? Aug 01 13:48:23 of course not :/ Aug 01 13:48:47 Its all in sound/soc/mediatek/mt_soc_audio_6797 Aug 01 13:48:54 heh Aug 01 13:49:28 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 13:49:44 There's a handful of different codecs, some internal some external I2S Aug 01 13:49:58 and there is a complicated AFE which controls the analogue part Aug 01 13:50:09 stuff then depends on plugging/unplugging the headset/headphone Aug 01 13:50:15 What's AFE? Aug 01 13:50:20 analogue front end Aug 01 13:50:39 the simplest is usually a single gain stage after the DAC Aug 01 13:50:47 but here there is a lot going on, it's a complicated SOC Aug 01 13:51:12 there's about a 100+ analogue registers Aug 01 13:51:18 with names like AFE_PMIC_NEWIF_CFG3 Aug 01 13:52:01 the crackle is there in Android, which does not bode well Aug 01 13:52:42 NEWIF wouldn't mean New Interface, would it? So helpful! Aug 01 13:53:26 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 13:53:39 the crackle is due to problems in kernel space, and the kernel is about the same for android and linux Aug 01 13:53:53 so it's no wonder it is there also. There is probably a very trivial fix, if you can find where to look. Aug 01 13:54:21 I managed to 'fix' the phase of the speakers by altering data before it is copied into the DMA buffer, but that is simple because it was on the normal alsa API boundary. Aug 01 13:54:37 So either mtk engineers couldn't do it, or they focussed on power savings, or mtk management never heard the crackle, or whatever. Aug 01 13:54:38 But as soon as you go into the mediatek realm, it's like crossing the Styx Aug 01 13:59:55 wa... `amixer controls` is down to 4 controls. When I messed up my audio env, I had over 50 controls. I reinstalled the rootfs to have audio I do like to listen to. Fun-ky... Aug 01 14:02:53 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 14:02:53 I thought you guys might be interested in this blog by freenode staff member Bryan 'kloeri' Ostergaard https://bryanostergaard.com/ Aug 01 14:02:53 Read what IRC investigative journalists have uncovered on the freenode pedophilia scandal https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Freenodegate Aug 01 14:04:19 changing value of some of those controls caused sound to cease, requiring a reboot, or even reboot via Android... So. Yeah. Improving audio starts with understanding audio, and that's not easy. Aug 01 14:05:06 really, i thnk mainlining is simply not a realistic goal Aug 01 14:05:20 Some controls were related to phones. Possibly the codecs for gsm communication Aug 01 14:05:29 what probable would make sense is to pick de drivers that are actually used on this platform Aug 01 14:05:52 move them to the appropriate place in the tree and clean up the code formatting Aug 01 14:06:18 the bigest problem is that most of the drivers donot use the appropriate standard kernel apis Aug 01 14:06:50 realistic? it's too big to oversee. Must make small steps. I find that having a vision/grand goal helps deciding how to tackle small problems now, though Aug 01 14:06:51 Zevv, what about moving to 4.4 MediaTek kernel/ Aug 01 14:06:58 *? Aug 01 14:07:26 I have no clue, I only ever saw the 3.18 :) Aug 01 14:07:43 With our IRC ad service you can reach a global audience of entrepreneurs and fentanyl addicts with extraordinary engagement rates! https://williampitcock.com/ Aug 01 14:08:05 making code compliant with kernel standards is one such thing. Aug 01 14:08:59 i agree, but the apis dont match the android userspace. gpios should go by /sys/class/gpio, not /proc/mtsomething, etc Aug 01 14:10:14 there are a few 4.4 MTK kernels out there that have a lot in place already, but pretty much all the mt6797 specific stuff is missing Aug 01 14:10:59 fwdpoting the 3.18 mtk rivers Aug 01 14:11:07 should be fun :) Aug 01 14:11:20 poRting Aug 01 14:11:23 omegamoon[m], yes, unfortunately Aug 01 14:11:52 means diffing drivers for their other SoCs, at least some should be compatible/comparable Aug 01 14:12:01 have a look at the details, and you know that this isn't easy :) Aug 01 14:12:07 blergh. are we on an outdated platform already? Aug 01 14:12:20 I am trying mainline now.... again Aug 01 14:12:40 I'm happy as a toddler that I'm on an outdated platform with available sources that I can build Aug 01 14:13:02 most of my other devices have outdated kernels where I can do nothing at all Aug 01 14:14:05 omegamoon[m], did you boot up to ramdisk last time? Aug 01 14:15:06 have a look at drivers/misc/mediatek/base/power for starters, and try porting the mt6797 specifics from 3.18 in... that's where I bailed out last time I tried Aug 01 14:15:59 TheKit, yes it runs up to ramdisk, like this... Aug 01 14:16:03 * omegamoon[m] sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/ynwDJmfxnUCWhLKNbxKTmsFu > Aug 01 14:16:58 so script fails at mounting, since storage is not supported? Aug 01 14:17:34 so it actually starts the initramfs... but now I am banging my head against the wall... how do I get a shell prompt started on serial console?? Aug 01 14:18:13 no, storage is not supported indeed... but for now it would be nice to get to a prompt somehow Aug 01 14:19:20 what happens with e. g. init=/bin/sh? Aug 01 14:23:04 nothing... I had to redirect all output in initramfs to /dev/kmsg in order to see anything on serial console Aug 01 14:24:51 so starting a busybox shell using anything like "exec sh" doesn't work... it shows no output on the serial console Aug 01 14:27:28 https://www.96boards.org/blog/mediatekx20-mainlining-update-part-1/ - hope it will advance further, currently they just submitted dts for board Aug 01 14:32:13 Status update: I have tried to set the channel to +s, unfortunately that setting can be changed only via ChanServ’s MLOCK, and only the channel’s founder can change it. I’ll get in touch with him (he lives in a different timezone), in the meanwhile I have set the channel to +gr (registered members only, invites are active). Aug 01 14:32:22 I have noticed that the unregistered users here are not kicked, they just can’t join again the channel after they leave it. I have also set some bans on the hosts used by the spambots which logged in here earlier (just in case), though the +r flag should be enough to block them. Aug 01 14:33:01 Next time we’ll try with the +s option instead of the +r one and see if it’s enough to block the spambots. Thanks to everyone for the suggestions and help, I hope that this will fix the problem for now. I’ll now post a warning on OESF about the channel’s status. Aug 01 14:36:30 TheKit: that x20 dts is pretty much empty :) Aug 01 14:37:23 but then again, so is my current mt6797x-gemini-pda one :D Aug 01 15:03:40 TheKit: it is rather difficult to test anything without having a working display... Aug 01 15:03:49 Thanks for the spam filtering attempt - this botting thing is nuts Aug 01 15:07:09 Vartiwork: great, thanks Aug 01 15:46:35 how do. How to change the screen off settings in debian? I've tried to look at power but it looks like its somewhere else Aug 01 15:48:01 Also have the screen is locked, i unlock it and it resets the brightness setting. anything i can do about that ? Aug 01 16:10:05 omegamoon[m], is it possible to ask in mailing list what changes would be needed to MediaTek drm driver for 6797? they support it for multiple SoCs Aug 01 16:10:59 WorkingClassDev, repowerd should restore brightness, but seems like there is race condition Aug 01 16:28:33 ahh ok mate. Any ideas on legnthing the screen off time? Ideally when plugged in I'd like it to stay on Aug 01 16:35:11 https://www.mankier.com/1/xss-lock Aug 01 16:35:19 it seems it should honor screen off timeout Aug 01 16:36:12 any idea where i set the time out ? Aug 01 16:43:30 try xset s TIMEOUT first to see if it affects it Aug 01 16:45:24 ok will do. I think I'm gonna ssh into it (what a time we live in) and do it on the laptop. Sysconfig is hard on the gemini Aug 01 16:46:04 thank you TheKit Aug 01 18:27:12 Update on the refresh rate, it's not a hardware limit Aug 01 18:27:20 Apparently Aug 01 18:27:44 * hgwells628[m] uploaded an image: Screenshot_20180801-142234~01.png (67KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/BxjlJNPMIxdkRegjsmwJDTpO > **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Aug 01 22:27:46 2018 **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Aug 02 03:00:00 2018