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Nov 16 18:08:04 <akik> somebody got the cosmo already?
Nov 16 18:08:38 <akik> planet's video shows some kind of zoom for the android desktop with fn+shift+c and v
Nov 16 18:08:59 <akik> how-to 10 video
Nov 16 19:00:35 <davedoom> I'm in Europe.  I expect it to be a few weeks at best.
Nov 16 20:08:40 <akik> i'm in finland
Nov 16 20:09:48 <akik> it's been quite a wait. one year now
Nov 16 21:06:10 <davedoom> yes.  It is now six months late.  That is pretty common in the kickstarter world. Two years late is not unknown.
Nov 16 21:07:51 <davedoom> I have tried to determine how much of this is due to deliberate lies about shipping dates and how much is due to incompetence. I think the atmosphere encourages BS artists who don't know themselves how much of what they say is true and how much is lies.
Nov 16 21:08:58 <davedoom> In his defense Janko has delivered several times.
Nov 16 21:59:48 <davedoom> Is there a cosmo channel?
Nov 16 22:18:04 <mifritscher> I think they were a bit optimistic in a fewcases
Nov 16 22:18:30 <mifritscher> but they manage it without big backtracks
Nov 16 22:18:36 <mifritscher> at leastg until now
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