**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Nov 29 02:59:58 2019 Nov 29 09:12:16 I got email from planet today selling the cosmo on line. I am angry because I still have not received my cosmo. Nov 29 09:49:05 Your anger suggests that you'd prefer a way of doing business where you only take new orders when you've fulfilled literally every order you've already taken... which doesn't sound particularly sustainable to me Nov 29 09:49:37 They're taking /orders/ for more, they're not going to be shipping any of them out until every indiegogo supporter's had theirs shipped out Nov 29 09:54:11 you sure? Nov 29 09:54:20 It doesn't look like that to me. Nov 29 09:54:41 like, i get you want your shiny (because of course we all like those), but also... i quite like to see them at least trying to stay afloat in this idiotic economy :P Nov 29 09:55:13 i take it you didn't watch the video with two interviews in it yesterday? Nov 29 09:55:28 didn't see it. can you post a link? Nov 29 09:55:40 Sure thing, moment, i'll have to dig it out of my history :) Nov 29 09:56:47 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bJvGqZJUV5M <-- there you go :) It's a bit long, but has a fair few really good bits of info in it (including some linuxy updates and whatnot) Nov 29 09:57:24 charbax! I love that guy. Nov 29 09:58:13 Pretty good at digging out the infos, yeah :) Nov 29 09:58:46 And also happy to let people actually talk, not just cutting them off and stuff because the video has to fit into thirty second soundbites and stuff, i really like that :) Nov 29 09:59:16 Need to work a bit on the whole framing-and-focus bits when getting close to devices, but... eh, that's something that can be worked on anyway :) Nov 29 11:10:40 hi, received my cosmo last weekend. Up to today, I really like the device. Has anyone of you figured out how to make the alarm-clock work on the cover display? If my alarm goes of, I cannot snooze or dismiss it on the outer display and when opening the phone and using the main display, I need to enter my pin first. Nov 29 11:12:32 i've not used that functionality, but i imagine that would be one of the things that they just hadn't covered in the first rollout... do send support a message, though, to make sure they're aware of that happening :) Nov 29 11:18:04 xelo: I'm sure it's a feature, to make sure you're fully awake. ;D Nov 29 11:19:28 TauPand: Ok, this makes sense ;) Nov 29 11:20:29 leinir: Thanks, are you aware of a public issue-tracker, in order to not report already known things again? Nov 29 11:20:47 hehe, was about to ask the same Nov 29 11:21:21 I don't really like to be the 1001st person to report the things on the oesf forum thread. Nov 29 11:29:38 i'm afraid i'm not :) Nov 29 11:43:40 there's no public tracker unfortunately... I was planning to open a generic thread listing all the known issues, like we did for the Gemini, to make it pinned and keeping it updated Nov 29 11:44:49 btw we are having some issues with the forum today, if the page doesn't load the first time please refresh the page, I'm looking into this and hope to have the issue fixed ASAP Nov 29 11:44:54 there's a thread for that already, isn't it? Nov 29 11:46:02 I'm getting a 500, also when I refresh. Nov 29 11:46:15 ah, now it works Nov 29 11:46:50 https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=35915 Nov 29 11:47:05 sometimes you need to refresh it for 2-3 times Nov 29 11:47:35 oic Nov 29 11:48:10 I remember it now, thanks for reminding me Nov 29 11:48:41 I was thinking of a thread more along these lines: https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=34797 Nov 29 11:49:10 a list containing short descriptions of each issue, and a link pointing to the relevant threads Nov 29 11:49:52 VartiWork: A Thread with known issues is a good idea. Nov 29 11:50:16 thanks, will prepare it this afternoon Nov 29 15:17:34 One thing about the cosmo that I'm not sure is a bug at all that all the applications are battery optimized by default. Which means that e.g. facebook messenger can't show messages, because it's not running, termux sessions terminate, etc. I'm not sure that switching battery optimizations off helps in all those cases when an app is not running when I want it to run. Nov 29 15:20:42 Hm, I had battery optimizations for facebook messenger off already, but didn't get notifications for a chat I'm in. Nov 29 15:21:13 The gemini pda does not behave like that. Nov 29 17:48:37 TauPand: my friend's daugher had the same kind of problem with whatsapp on another android device Nov 30 01:12:09 Is there a different channel for Cosmo? Nov 30 02:00:38 I guess I have spoiled my chances @matrix for lyf? Nov 30 02:02:39 Just got my Cosmo. Using it now for this chat. Seems to sometimes miss keyboard events and I can't get it onto Verizon but other than that, I think it is pretty great so far. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Sat Nov 30 02:59:57 2019