**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 30 02:59:57 2019 **** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Nov 30 11:59:37 2019 Nov 30 12:17:12 Ah, rotation control (not pro, by CrapeMyrtle) seems to work for manually setting other rotation modes from the notification area. Autorotation doesn't work but this makes it easier to switch to portrait mode with the right hand. Nov 30 12:37:15 Hm, deinstalled again. Most cases the force rotate from the app bar will be sufficient. Installing one app just have one setting a bit easier to reach seems overkill. Nov 30 12:43:44 does nova launcher's auto rotation work with the cosmo? Nov 30 12:43:56 still waiting for mine Nov 30 12:45:48 I was considering nova launcher, because the preinstalled launcher is a bit lacking. I doubt it would work and if it did that would not help with apps. Nov 30 12:46:29 Also the preinstalled launcher supports rotation and resizing via hotkey. I doubt nova properly supports that. Nov 30 13:24:58 Nope... the chat head for facebook messenger disappeared at some point while the cosmo was locked. Might look at adb logcat later, maybe apps crash or something. But I don't see fc-dialog or something. Nov 30 13:25:07 also termux was terminated Nov 30 13:25:18 and the sports watch sync app Nov 30 13:26:21 There was a network change at some point (from mobile to wifi), not sure if that's relevant. Nov 30 13:52:14 Couldn't reproduce it with a voluntary network change (i.e. disabling and re-enabling wifi). Nov 30 14:10:44 Hm, facebook messenger chat head gone, cosmo spontaneously locked, but polar flow and termux still running, while I was scrolling through settings. This is starting to look more and more like crashes, or oom, or something. Or hyperactive background process limiting. I'll try to catch such a situation with adb logcat this evening. Nov 30 14:12:23 makes me hope they get the sailfish port going quickly, I really love the cosmo hardware but can't stand Android xD Nov 30 16:18:37 Oops, I had DuraSpeed turned on. Turning it off apparently helped. Nov 30 16:19:48 Sailfish is nice, but without android support (as on the gemini so far) it's completely useless for me. Nov 30 16:20:52 https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=35906 gave me the idea. Now the watch syncs reliably. I even got a whatsapp message while on the christmas fair which was displayed on my watch. Nov 30 16:45:20 what's dura speed? Nov 30 16:45:54 and why aren't these settings the default? :) Nov 30 16:52:53 I may have turned on Duraspeed while fiddling with the settings. Nov 30 16:53:13 Other than that, fair question. Nov 30 16:54:13 does duraspeed come installed in cosmo? Nov 30 16:54:33 found this https://www.appbrain.com/app/duraspeed/com.mediatek.duraspeed Nov 30 16:54:49 Helps boost foreground APP speed by restricting background Apps. Nov 30 16:55:01 Unfortunately it's installed and can't be deactivated (as an app) but can be turned off in settings. Nov 30 16:55:26 there's the trick to uninstall apps through adb Nov 30 16:55:38 it doesn't uninstall the app from the phone but from the current user Nov 30 16:56:07 https://www.xda-developers.com/uninstall-carrier-oem-bloatware-without-root-access/ Nov 30 16:56:33 so i should disable duraspeed when i get my cosmo? Nov 30 16:56:37 Well, turning it off in settings seems to work. Nov 30 16:57:21 akik: definite yes from me so far... Didn't have apps killed for the last 3 hours at least. Nov 30 16:57:31 err Nov 30 16:57:37 reckon that'd have any bad effect on battery life? Nov 30 16:57:59 According to the thread Nov 30 16:58:03 not by much. Nov 30 16:58:25 i mean, presumably the whole point of duraspeed (aside from the 'better performance' for foreground apps) is to boost a bit of battery out of it Nov 30 16:58:35 but if it doesnt really give much/any noticable difference then yaeh might as well get rid Nov 30 16:59:43 Also I don't care if it gives better battery life if it also kills apps that I want to keep running. Nov 30 16:59:53 yeah absolutely Nov 30 17:01:38 I'm also going to fiddle with the settings a bit. Maybe some combination of Android Pie power management parts and/or Duraspeed is going to work ok. Nov 30 17:03:50 did planet send the accessories together with the cosmo? Nov 30 17:06:01 Nope. Still waiting for my pouch and the car mount kit ;-\ Nov 30 17:07:53 .oO(Note to self: Check forums next time before rambling endlessly on irc.) Nov 30 17:08:20 im still waiting on my cosmo \o/ they said in a comment the last UK shipments should be going out this monday so im hopeful ill have it by next weekend Nov 30 17:09:06 Yay! Now that the software works ok I'm going to enjoy the hardware much more. ;) Nov 30 17:09:35 Also I'm typing all this on the cosmo, obviously :) keyboard is so much better than on the gemini! Nov 30 17:10:49 i tried a gemini and liked the keyboard so thats good to know Nov 30 18:15:13 OKay, my facebook messenger chat also works again. I'm very sure that DuraSpeed was the missing piece. Nov 30 18:34:44 Grmbl, that IRC bridging is really a PITA Nov 30 18:42:05 uhuh? Nov 30 18:44:02 I love my Cosmo, especially when the back display is off. :-) Then it has the battery time I expected it to have. That's basically the only bigger flaw to me. Nov 30 18:45:47 I've made it a habit to press the silver button to turn it off, but I'm not sure how much that influences battery time. Nov 30 18:47:59 Hm, that might be an idea, too. Switching it off completely definitely makes a big difference. I hope they will be able to fix this, the display would really be nice to have, of course. Nov 30 18:48:48 it'd be cool if it had a thing tot urn it on automatically when you pull it out your pocket sort of like what some phones do with the main display Nov 30 18:51:29 No offence intended against IRC, of course, but from the matrix side, if a registered nick is required, it's quite a dance to make it work. Nov 30 18:54:46 Re alarm clock: I've been using AlarmDroid for years. I can switch the alarm off from the cover display there because it has a notification from which the alarm can be stopped. Nov 30 18:55:24 Still cumbersome, though, currently I just have the Cosmo standing at by bedside open. Nov 30 18:59:39 I very much prefer irc over any other chat system, so I'm connecting to my raspi via termux on the cosmo. Nov 30 19:00:39 Acou_Bass: that would be nice :) Nov 30 19:01:46 Are there any intents to release the sources / api for the codisiplay? That would sort of be a requirement to do anything with it from linux and probably Nov 30 19:01:52 sailfish as well. Nov 30 19:01:57 yeah i do all my communication via IRC, got a bitlbee + ZNC combo running on my pi that does all my other chat protocols \o/ Nov 30 20:20:28 After a day of really heavy use with lots of trying out stuff, some GPS navigation etc. (but without cover display), the battery is now at 31%. Nice. I hope it will be possible to get to similar regions *with* cover display. Nov 30 20:21:25 thats about the same as i get from my xperia X + sailfish.. so id be happy with that :P Nov 30 20:32:01 Im waiting for the inevitable "reflash your cosmo" to fix known issues Nov 30 20:32:12 so I haven't bothered to set it up fully Nov 30 20:51:07 BTW, I wanted to register for the OESF forum on... Monday, I think, or Tuesday? I never received an email. Is it normal that it takes so long? Nov 30 20:51:34 i didnt get the e-mail until i tagged the guy on the IGG comments Nov 30 23:14:37 can someone setup a cosmo channel please? It might even redirect here .... or better yet a channel like PDA-planet or pocketcommunicators or something. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Dec 06 11:09:57 2019