**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Jan 15 02:59:57 2020 Jan 15 08:40:31 hi, I have now set the channel back to -r (non-registered users can also join), I'll see if there will be any bot attack in the next few hours, if none I'll make this change permanent Jan 15 08:40:31 Good news about the backdoor on the Cosmo from Planet Computers. Jan 15 08:40:53 TauPand: yes, good thing that they're taking care of this Jan 15 08:41:54 and, in the meanwhile we might as well rename this channel :) What do you think of #cosmo-geminipda ? Jan 15 08:43:04 back door? Jan 15 08:43:08 * TauPand is all for it. Jan 15 08:43:24 calcmandan: http://wuffs.org/blog/digitime-tech-fota-backdoors Jan 15 08:43:48 calcmandan: also see last campaign update from PC Jan 15 08:45:40 * greguu votes for no change of channel name Jan 15 08:46:59 hi greguu! Jan 15 08:48:12 greguu: I guess that name is a bit long Jan 15 08:50:54 maybe but if planet decides to release more device where do we end up with channel names Jan 15 08:50:58 just keep it as it is Jan 15 08:52:05 we are not affiliated with them.. Jan 15 08:53:13 anyone can spawn a new channel for the cosmo if really required Jan 15 08:54:09 I guess most here are lurking anyway for the gemini-pda ? Jan 15 08:56:10 what about the backdoor in the cosmo ? is about the MDK key logger thing again ? Jan 15 09:10:36 greguu: "is about the MDK key logger thing again ?" yes Jan 15 09:20:48 Good point about the name changing everytime issue... I honestly don't know if there are more Gemini or Cosmo users here. Personally, given the low traffic here I don't think there's need for a separate Cosmo channel. Jan 15 09:20:54 BTW, I don't know what happens to the livelog/archived logs if we decide to rename the channel, I believe ka6sox would have to manually create a new log folder for this channel. And we'd end up with an "orphaned" log folder (#gemini-pda), unless it can be joined with the new one. Maybe a poll on the forum could be a good idea. Jan 15 09:44:26 the logs will stop if we rename the channel as the log bot from nslu2-log needs to join again. Jan 15 09:44:49 VartiWork: lets keep it simple and as it is Jan 15 09:55:16 I don't know anything about a key logger. Jan 15 09:56:29 mtklogger, it was reported some time ago Jan 15 09:57:35 maybe harmless, but considered dodgy Jan 15 10:00:04 https://www.oesf.org/forum/index.php?showtopic=35100 Jan 15 11:19:26 No, it has no relation to that, so that mtklogger might still be present in the next update. Jan 15 11:20:14 The backdoor is worse, as it allows granting arbitrary permissions to any (even unsigned) apps. Jan 15 11:26:15 It looks very similar to that old adups backdoor, though. Different company, same technique, same hardware vendor. **** ENDING LOGGING AT Thu Jan 16 02:59:59 2020