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Apr 29 06:05:27 <mibry[m]> hmm
Apr 29 06:05:35 <mibry[m]> Ok then I am not sure
Apr 29 08:23:02 <cos-> https://blog.jolla.com/sailfish-os-rokua-is-now-available/
Apr 29 08:35:59 <dTal> heh, I was briefly intruiged by https://liliputing.com/2020/04/nanote-is-a-7-inch-convertible-mini-laptop-for-185-in-japan.html
Apr 29 08:36:11 <dTal> until I realized that the Cosmo was superior in every respect
Apr 29 09:38:19 <davedoom> https://www.indiegogo.com/project/preview/ed28492e#/
Apr 29 09:38:29 <davedoom> I got this email today.
Apr 29 09:38:55 <davedoom> not cheap but beats the living crap out of the cosmo.
Apr 29 09:39:06 <davedoom> I wish these machines could make a telephone call.
Apr 29 10:23:44 <TauPand> Different use-case than the cosmo. Also the keyboard looks like the keyboard on my work laptop (flat keys, large spacing) which I don't like.
Apr 29 10:35:10 <dTal> marginally smaller, better keyboard, more ram, double storage, better connectivity
Apr 29 10:36:34 <davedoom> I bought the GPD pocket.  I found that (a) the battery life is about an hour and a half if I am lucky and (b) I don't carry it with me because it is something extra to carry when I leave the house.  I have a phone all the time.
Apr 29 10:38:43 <davedoom> That TDP is not looking so good.
Apr 29 10:39:08 <davedoom> Intel seems to have abandoned this segment of the market.
Apr 29 10:40:10 <davedoom> This is a rocking good micro laptop for use in a hotel room or for giving presentations but not so hot for a walking around.
Apr 29 10:55:37 <dTal> an hour and a half? that's pretty sucky for its target use case
Apr 29 10:58:10 <dTal> I'm quite enamored of the GPD Micro PC
Apr 29 11:08:34 <davedoom> what kind of battery life do you get?
Apr 29 11:10:20 <davedoom> Three-stage adjustable TDP (15W, 20W, 25W) for applications in different scenarios. With 25W TDP, the performance of the machine greatly surpasses other products on the market with the same configuration.
Apr 29 12:01:47 <dTal> oh no, I don't have one, I just want onew
Apr 29 12:01:54 <dTal> but I hear they get 7-8 hours
Apr 29 13:40:16 <davedoom> You might double check that.  Actual real world performance is not so good.
Apr 29 13:40:28 <davedoom> This one is going to be abysmal.
Apr 29 19:41:04 <davedoom> Do you have a cosmo?  What kind of battery life do you get?
Apr 29 21:48:10 <Acou_Bass> 1-2 hours from a GPD pocket? what gen pcket is it? ive got a 1st gen GPD win and can squeeze 10 hours out of it with linux
Apr 29 21:54:24 <dTal> davedoom: I took my Cosmo off charge at 9 this morning, it's now 11 at night and I'm on 60%
Apr 29 21:54:37 <dTal> wifi on, whatsapp running, moderate use, no cover display
Apr 29 21:56:22 <davedoom> all day is pretty good but you weren't watching videos or constantly typing or whatever.  My wife has a galaxy s10e.  It goes about two days without charging.
Apr 29 21:56:31 <davedoom> The cpu draws 7 W
Apr 29 21:56:51 <davedoom> I'm thinking it has about double the life of the cosmo.
Apr 29 21:57:43 <Acou_Bass> ive got a sony xperia X running sailfish and i charge it once every 2 days, thats pretty much no matter what i do, its pretty awesome
Apr 29 21:57:58 <Acou_Bass> cosmo was quite a cut back from that but i at least do get a full day out of it now at least
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