**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Mar 09 02:59:57 2009 Mar 09 04:30:10 * flyback munches on the one thing he asks for every year for his bday, daily queen ice cream cake! Mar 09 04:31:45 dairy queen even Mar 09 05:52:01 * flyback getting sick bbl Mar 09 06:31:14 * flyback sleeps Mar 09 08:01:37 anybody awake? Mar 09 08:06:48 i'm having a pretty hard time finding my situation on the net, so i thought i'd try here Mar 09 08:07:03 going off of http://dev.eyebeam.org/projects/reware/wiki/Releases Mar 09 08:07:36 i try to boot, but i get the message, "No root filesystem found! Check that if your root exists!" Mar 09 08:07:40 "" not found Mar 09 08:07:50 * Defaulting to shell... Mar 09 08:08:04 then it enters BusyBox Mar 09 08:08:28 might want to bug marex or miska when they are around Mar 09 08:09:15 i just tried changing some stuff in linux.boot.cfg, but with no success. Mar 09 08:10:19 yeah I dunno Mar 09 08:10:20 the only thing that i can think of at the moment is that it might have unzipped wrong, since i un-tar'd it using izarc on windows xp instead of in linux? Mar 09 08:10:36 mabye Mar 09 08:10:44 i'm using a Palm TX, by the way. 1st generation, i think. (only has standard SD card reader) Mar 09 08:10:49 might want to try 7-zip also Mar 09 08:10:53 I have a t5 Mar 09 08:10:58 I use miska's builds Mar 09 08:11:01 works fine although slow Mar 09 08:11:08 eventually want to do a native ext2 partition Mar 09 08:11:16 he has tx builds also Mar 09 08:12:28 right. and i even watched a short video clip from the guys at eyebeam, and it seems like it should've worked just fine.. Mar 09 08:13:12 anyways goodnight bud Mar 09 08:13:19 feel free to idle here Mar 09 08:13:26 night Mar 09 08:13:27 thanks Mar 09 08:24:12 k Mar 09 08:24:15 nevermind Mar 09 08:24:19 i got it. :) Mar 09 08:24:34 i re-downloaded the package, and re-unpacked it. now it works! Mar 09 08:24:35 :D Mar 09 08:24:44 thanks a lot guys. you guys rock. :) Mar 09 10:28:48 hello Mar 09 10:29:32 hi Mar 09 10:32:45 I am facing 2 small troubles with kernel for Palm TX Mar 09 10:34:43 "stable" kernel: agenda alarms wakes up from suspend, but it is impossible to read audio files properly (sound is scratched and so on) Mar 09 10:35:33 testing kernel: sound is totally fine, but agenda alarms does not wake up from suspend Mar 09 10:36:18 on top of that I am using same Opie, stable version Mar 09 10:37:26 could it be that "hibernate" (or the tool which is used) depends on the kernel behind so that would be the reason why it does not work with the newer kernel? Mar 09 10:38:46 I think that there is just ommited RTC Alarm as wake-up source, but some TX developer would say it better... Mar 09 10:38:59 |miska|: do you know something about that? Mar 09 10:41:32 ok that would mean it just needs a kernel rebuilt then? Mar 09 10:42:54 if it can be easily fixed, I would be able to use the palm fully (I don't need wifi now, bluetooth is enough for synchronizing the agenda) Mar 09 10:44:38 I'm not sure which kernel is testing Mar 09 10:45:34 this one http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/testing/kernel/ Mar 09 10:50:26 ok. i got the default to run on my palm. Mar 09 10:50:50 now i'm trying to get some of miska's stuff to work, but i'm having a hard time. Mar 09 10:51:12 i think that maybe i'm not sure where to copy each of the files. Mar 09 10:51:29 tuna`: |miska| knows Mar 09 10:51:50 could anyone help me out with where the kernel and rootfs files are actually supposed to go? Mar 09 10:51:54 tuna`: there is one register setting causing that Mar 09 10:52:21 gr3y_m4tt3r: it depends on release, we didn't unified it yet Mar 09 10:52:40 Sleep_Walker: ok Mar 09 10:53:12 ok. how about the march 08 release? Mar 09 10:53:21 tuna`: just wait a bit for him, he'll come for sure Mar 09 10:53:56 i got the rootfs file into the /linux directory on my card. and i was even able to set up a conf file for it that made it a selectable option when booting. Mar 09 10:53:56 gr3y_m4tt3r: http://hackndev.com/trac/wiki/Bootpacks ? Mar 09 10:54:26 sorry, but I don't know any release marked as march 08 Mar 09 10:54:27 but, then it says that it can't find the root file system (/dev/loop1) or something. Mar 09 10:54:42 Sleep_Walker: just from the page, http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/ Mar 09 10:54:47 under packages Mar 09 10:55:09 there are kernel packages, and rootfs packages... Mar 09 10:55:16 I see Mar 09 10:55:24 * Sleep_Walker doesn't have TX, never tried Mar 09 10:55:33 * Sleep_Walker has just T3, Treo680 and LifeDrive :b Mar 09 10:55:38 i see Mar 09 10:55:47 where do the files go? Mar 09 10:55:51 * gr3y_m4tt3r sighs Mar 09 10:56:41 contrary to the directions at the top of miska's TX - T|5 page, i think that it is not as simple as the directions he gives.. Mar 09 10:57:30 so, i took a couple steps back and put the default reware stuff on my card, and then tried adding miska's files. Mar 09 11:09:04 ask tuna` Mar 09 11:11:00 tuna`: why does the screen freak out when i try to use a kernel from miska? Mar 09 11:11:59 maybe your display doesn't support 324x484 resolution Mar 09 11:12:15 I hope it can be fixed from command line, but I never tried Mar 09 11:12:37 gr3y_m4tt3r: so your are using the march 08 release? hires kernel or not? Mar 09 11:12:54 non-hires kernel Mar 09 11:13:23 come to think if it, i'm not sure if i tried the hires kernel yet.. Mar 09 11:15:34 and by the way. i'm assuming that, whichever kernel i use, i have to rename it to 'zImage' and place it in the root of the card, correct? Mar 09 11:15:35 it is simpler than that Mar 09 11:15:36 yes? Mar 09 11:15:51 just uncompress this file http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/kernels/tx-kernel.tgz to your card. It provides everything to boot up: kernel, cocoboot, modules (which are in /linux directory) Mar 09 11:16:20 O.o Mar 09 11:16:25 the rootfs http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/roots/opie-rootfs-expo-20080505-ext2.tgz just uncompress it as well in your card, it will put its files inside /linux Mar 09 11:16:32 and that's it. Mar 09 11:16:36 oh Mar 09 11:16:42 * gr3y_m4tt3r smacks forehead Mar 09 11:16:49 k. i'll try that right now. Mar 09 11:18:05 but... how/when does it do that? Mar 09 11:18:09 the... Mar 09 11:18:10 wait Mar 09 11:18:12 ugh Mar 09 11:18:39 i was only seeing one file per each of those. Mar 09 11:19:07 but, with the tgz, i'm guessing i should extract, then open the file as a .tar Mar 09 11:19:16 and it has the contents i'm after. Mar 09 11:19:20 ? Mar 09 11:19:51 yep Mar 09 11:19:58 * gr3y_m4tt3r is extracting Mar 09 11:20:12 didn't catch the file extension before. :( Mar 09 11:20:24 yeah you have to extract yourself the content of each .tgz file into your card. Mar 09 11:20:26 gr3y_m4tt3r: ok Mar 09 11:20:42 tuna`: thanks Mar 09 11:21:33 tuna`: before, when i extracted, i only saw one file (the .tar archive), but it didn't have the .tar extension. Mar 09 11:21:50 depends on how you extract it. Mar 09 11:22:06 with command tar you can get directly the content and not the tar file itself. Mar 09 11:22:16 and i thought that the files were actually the rootfs file and the kernel file Mar 09 11:22:37 right. but i'm on my windows machine right now, and was using izarc. :\ Mar 09 11:22:39 lol Mar 09 11:22:50 oh ok Mar 09 11:23:05 doesn't help much for such manipulation indeed ;) Mar 09 11:24:52 gr3y_m4tt3r: on your card you should have those files then: cocoboot.conf initrd.gz linux linux.boot.cfg PALM zImage Mar 09 11:25:26 inside PALM: Launcher (a directory with cocoboot launcher etc...)) Mar 09 11:25:30 uh oh. where's the zImage file?... Mar 09 11:25:50 tuna`: right. although, i'm missing zImage Mar 09 11:25:56 in linux: modules.squash opie-rootfs-expo-20080505-ext2.ext2 Mar 09 11:25:58 opie-rootfs-expo-20080505-ext2.conf Mar 09 11:26:18 shouldn't zImage have been in tx-kernel.tgz? Mar 09 11:26:21 gr3y_m4tt3r: yep Mar 09 11:26:34 it's not here... Mar 09 11:26:59 everything I listed is provided by tx-kernel.gz but the opie* files (which are provided by opie-rootfs-expo-20080505-ext2.tgz )z Mar 09 11:27:02 -z Mar 09 11:27:21 right Mar 09 11:28:05 gr3y_m4tt3r: if you archive (isarc) is doing it wrong, can't help much. Mar 09 11:28:22 damn. i'm not seeing zImage in the tx-hires-kernel.gz, either.. Mar 09 11:28:31 tuna`: could you do me a favor real quick? Mar 09 11:28:45 confirm the contents of http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/kernels/tx-kernel.tgz Mar 09 11:28:49 ? Mar 09 11:29:32 actually Mar 09 11:29:34 nevermind Mar 09 11:29:41 i just untarred it on my remote shell Mar 09 11:29:46 the zImage is there. :) Mar 09 11:29:56 downloading it now Mar 09 11:30:09 I confirm Mar 09 11:30:11 $ tar xzf ../tx-kernel.tgz Mar 09 11:30:17 $ ls Mar 09 11:30:18 cocoboot.conf initrd.gz linux linux.boot.cfg PALM zImage Mar 09 11:30:47 be back in 30min. Mar 09 11:33:16 tuna`: thanks for helping me figure it out. should've just done if from linux in the first place. :) Mar 09 11:33:29 my palm is booting it just fine now. :) Mar 09 11:33:48 woah. "Starting Linux on your Palm" Mar 09 11:34:02 awesome Mar 09 11:34:09 Sleep_Walker: thanks Mar 09 11:34:32 tuna` did all that job Mar 09 11:34:41 tuna`: thanks Mar 09 11:35:07 yep. but you were her when i came in, and helped point me in the right direction. Mar 09 11:35:17 11:32 < gr3y_m4tt3r> tuna`: thanks for helping me figure it out. should've just done if from linux in the first place. :) Mar 09 11:42:08 damn. too bad my palm TX's digitizer is off. Mar 09 11:44:11 tuna`: pm (when you get back) Mar 09 11:44:19 thanks again, everybody. Mar 09 11:51:19 back Mar 09 17:11:36 |miska|: Hi, are you there? Mar 09 18:08:30 <|miska|> tuna`: Hi, a little bit... Mar 09 19:25:06 tuna`, what do you want ? Mar 09 19:26:26 marex: RTC alarm as wake up source Mar 09 19:26:32 on TX Mar 09 19:26:53 well that's simple isnt it Mar 09 19:27:43 yes, but it's not just in the latest |miska|'s kernel Mar 09 19:27:46 nothing more Mar 09 19:30:35 <|miska|> isn't it in stable? Mar 09 19:30:43 yes Mar 09 19:30:47 it is Mar 09 19:45:38 |miska| marex: sorry, I was away Mar 09 19:46:44 yeah latest kernel works better with TX (sound is fine, which is not with stable release) but agenda alarm does not wake up TX from suspend Mar 09 19:47:15 |miska|, your "latest stable" ... whatever it is ... uses .21 or .29-rc ? Mar 09 19:48:12 <|miska|> stable .21, not sure about latest Mar 09 19:48:30 <|miska|> Never noticed any problem with sound on .21 Mar 09 19:49:25 <|miska|> tuna`: How exactly doesn't sound work with stable kernel? Mar 09 19:49:43 it scratches when I want to play an audio file Mar 09 19:50:18 which does not appear with latest kernel (on your testing page) Mar 09 19:50:37 but then, this testing kernel lacks of this alarm wake up stuff. Mar 09 19:51:11 <|miska|> What player do you use? Mar 09 19:51:16 xmms Mar 09 19:51:23 the one in Opie Mar 09 19:51:25 <|miska|> hmmm :-( Mar 09 19:51:53 <|miska|> I was using same thing and never noticed Mar 09 19:51:59 :/ Mar 09 19:52:13 <|miska|> Will take a look at the latest kernel Mar 09 19:52:26 |miska|, might be because of the "improvements" you made to your FrankenTX Mar 09 19:52:31 ;) Mar 09 19:52:59 <|miska|> marex: more likely because of your improvements :-P Mar 09 19:53:15 I abadoned the .21-hnd a long time ago Mar 09 19:54:32 I also have a problem on both about sound, but I guess I can fix it with alsactl: the speaker does not work with or without headset plugged in (hodeffuly sound works fine in headset). I might have the speaker muted, will see that with alsactl Mar 09 19:54:51 -hodeffuly+hopefully Mar 09 19:56:37 <|miska|> tuna`: You need to set balance to the most left or right to hear anything from speaker Mar 09 19:56:54 ah ok Mar 09 19:59:00 you need to do some more alchemy with alsactl ... there is also some switch on the rightmost side that turns sound routing into the speaker ... maybe it's just in the .29-rc, but it should have been in .21 as well Mar 09 19:59:23 I dont really recall, but if it doesnt work, seek there Mar 09 20:00:41 a switch? Mar 09 20:00:50 not an hardware one you mean? Mar 09 20:01:22 s/alsactl/alsamixer/ Mar 09 20:01:31 ok Mar 09 20:07:47 pretty hard to use alsamixer. hum, I thnik it will be easier to stare the config via alsactl, to tweak it and to restore it Mar 09 20:08:01 try aumix Mar 09 20:08:34 btw. in opie console, you can try setting it to emulate X terminal (it's somewhere in the menu - profile config ? ) Mar 09 20:09:47 ok, did not went very far in using opie, thanks for the advices Mar 09 20:55:38 ah... |miska| : sound is no more scratching on stable kernel. Mar 09 20:56:02 some audio file went corrupted as it seems, that's why. Mar 09 20:57:41 well, everything works just fine then. Mar 10 01:07:57 * flyback preheats the grill and prepares to cook dinner Mar 10 01:11:30 * flyback celebrates his bday 2 days early and the fact that a good irc friend he thought died turned up today back on irc Mar 10 01:17:12 * flyback bbl Mar 10 02:59:55 * flyback notes the next little shit to post fake "come here for the actual video" posts on youtube etc, is going to be buried in a doubled up ziplock bag **** ENDING LOGGING AT Tue Mar 10 02:59:57 2009