**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Mar 28 02:59:57 2009
Mar 28 03:19:46 <flyback> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt596dfzYq8&feature=related# <--- HAHAHAHAHA
Mar 28 03:34:41 * flyback notes flashblock has started breaking on youtube again and he suspects advertisier assholes are breaking it on purpose
Mar 28 04:40:03 * flyback notes the headaches and vision problems are getting worse as is the memory problems
Mar 28 07:47:12 <Tokimaru> !commands
Mar 28 16:35:06 <flyback> hello Dimewise
Mar 28 17:25:35 <mib_8gpnn3> hi... I've got a cross compiler installed (finally) and I've got the arm:devel kernel with marex's patches for palm t|x wifi.  now how do I compile the kernel?
Mar 28 17:27:35 <mib_8gpnn3> also, can I use this newly compiled kernel with |miska|'s released rootfs and expect wifi to work?
Mar 28 17:33:11 <flyback> dunno but feel free to idle here
Mar 28 17:33:14 <flyback> and they come by once in a while
Mar 28 17:33:19 <mib_8gpnn3> alright
Mar 28 17:33:22 <flyback> they are in .cz so their sleep schedule is different
Mar 28 17:33:24 <mib_8gpnn3> thanks
Mar 28 17:33:25 <mib_8gpnn3> gotcha
Mar 28 17:33:26 <flyback> gvood luck
Mar 28 17:33:30 <mib_8gpnn3> thanks :)
Mar 28 17:33:56 <mib_8gpnn3> do you know anything about compiling kernels in general?
Mar 28 17:34:09 <mib_8gpnn3> ...or how often miska makes a new release?
Mar 28 17:38:04 <flyback> no I just played with his released
Mar 28 17:38:12 <flyback>  do want to get a virtula machine setup on my main box soon
Mar 28 17:38:16 <flyback> just for compiling palm come
Mar 28 17:38:21 <mib_8gpnn3> all right
Mar 28 17:38:24 <flyback> use a vm so I can have a custom linux made just for compiling palm stuff
Mar 28 17:38:28 <flyback> so I don;t want into lib issues etc
Mar 28 17:38:35 <mib_8gpnn3> that's what I'm doing actually
Mar 28 17:40:02 <mib_8gpnn3> hm, http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/tools/ looks useful -- wonder if the build.sh there will work
Mar 28 18:16:25 * flyback thinks he waited too long and this cracked tip tooth is absessed and will have to be pulled like the other
Mar 28 18:27:35 * flyback broke his back, chest etc helping grandma off the floor
Mar 28 19:02:39 * flyback heads off to get a medication picked up, bbl
Mar 28 19:40:23 * mib_8gpnn3 yawns
Mar 28 19:40:44 <mib_8gpnn3> Sleep_Walker: could you help me compile this kernel for my palm t|x?
Mar 28 19:41:46 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: hi
Mar 28 19:42:13 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: give me 15 mins and ping me again
Mar 28 19:42:16 <mib_8gpnn3> hi Sleep_Walker -- I saw your build.sh script, but realized it only works for a few other devices I don't have :)
Mar 28 19:42:19 <mib_8gpnn3> all right, thanks
Mar 28 19:42:49 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: well, in fact - it does only copy right config-$DEVICE into .config and run build
Mar 28 19:43:07 <Sleep_Walker> but it can be used with |miska|'s kernel config
Mar 28 19:43:18 <mib_8gpnn3> oh, ok -- can you tell me where to get that?
Mar 28 19:43:22 <mib_8gpnn3> I'm a complete newbie at this :)
Mar 28 19:43:40 <Sleep_Walker> at |miska|'s web page
Mar 28 19:43:50 <mib_8gpnn3> I've got debian (in a VM), emdebian, and the linux arm:devel source, patched with marex's wifi fix
Mar 28 19:43:56 <Sleep_Walker> if you weren't there, how can you be sure you need own kernel?
Mar 28 19:43:58 <mib_8gpnn3> is that enough to get the kernel working?
Mar 28 19:44:35 <Sleep_Walker> if you want wifi working, you should ask marex
Mar 28 19:44:54 <mib_8gpnn3> he's posted a patch which I've applied
Mar 28 19:44:57 <Sleep_Walker> I don't know if his work is commited somewhere or at least patch created
Mar 28 19:45:00 <Sleep_Walker> I see
Mar 28 19:45:15 <Sleep_Walker> ok, you also need cross compiler
Mar 28 19:45:19 <mib_8gpnn3> miska's kernel packages are pretty old, and apparently you need arm:devel kernel to do anything with marex's patches
Mar 28 19:45:28 <Sleep_Walker> but I'll be here in 15mins
Mar 28 19:45:36 <mib_8gpnn3> alright, thanks
Mar 28 19:46:21 * mib_8gpnn3 researches arm vs. armel
Mar 28 20:03:57 <mib_8gpnn3> Sleep_Walker: between initrd.gz, zImage, linux.boot.cfg, and linux/modules.squash which files am I going to need to recreate with this kernel build?
Mar 28 20:04:32 <mib_8gpnn3> (linux currently boots on my tx and runs fine, just without wifi)
Mar 28 20:07:42 <Sleep-Walker> back
Mar 28 20:07:45 <mib_8gpnn3> hi
Mar 28 20:08:04 <Sleep-Walker> Sleep_Walker: bang
Mar 28 20:08:16 <mib_8gpnn3> :)
Mar 28 20:08:40 <mib_8gpnn3> so I've got emdebian-toolkit (armel cross toolchain), miska's kernel config, and linux arm:devel sources (with patches applied)
Mar 28 20:09:01 <Sleep_Walker> well, that sounds like you have all you need
Mar 28 20:09:24 <mib_8gpnn3> arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc appears to be the compiler, though I've no experience with cross compilers before
Mar 28 20:09:33 <Sleep_Walker> 1] run 'make ARCH=arm menuconfig' to fix |miska|'s old .config
Mar 28 20:10:01 <mib_8gpnn3> do I move "config-tx-hackndev" to linux-2.6-arm/.config?
Mar 28 20:10:20 <mib_8gpnn3> and do I need to specify "CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi-" in the make arguments?
Mar 28 20:10:21 <Sleep_Walker> rather copy :)
Mar 28 20:10:26 <Sleep_Walker> 2] run 'make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi'
Mar 28 20:10:29 <Sleep_Walker> yes
Mar 28 20:10:39 <Sleep_Walker> in second step yes
Mar 28 20:10:42 <mib_8gpnn3> alright, I'll run the first command
Mar 28 20:10:43 <mib_8gpnn3> thanks
Mar 28 20:11:07 <Sleep_Walker> menuconfig is run on host machine so it would not need cross compiler yet
Mar 28 20:11:31 <mib_8gpnn3> ok, I've got a textmode GUI of sorts on my screen
Mar 28 20:11:35 <mib_8gpnn3> do I need to make any changes here?
Mar 28 20:11:50 <Sleep_Walker> at least save on exit
Mar 28 20:12:07 <Sleep_Walker> all unknown CONFIG options will be set to yes
Mar 28 20:12:08 <mib_8gpnn3> alright, it's saved
Mar 28 20:12:49 <mib_8gpnn3> the build failed
Mar 28 20:14:34 <mib_8gpnn3> most errors seem to be about __LINUX_ARM_ARCH__ being undeclared
Mar 28 20:14:54 <mib_8gpnn3> there are a few other miscellaneous errors as well
Mar 28 20:15:17 <Sleep_Walker> hmmm
Mar 28 20:15:30 <mib_8gpnn3> looks a lot like <http://lists.busybox.net/pipermail/busybox/2008-February/030430.html>
Mar 28 20:16:38 <Sleep_Walker> hehe :D
Mar 28 20:16:52 <mib_8gpnn3> "are you on the wrong mailing list?"
Mar 28 20:16:55 <mib_8gpnn3> oops...
Mar 28 20:16:57 <Sleep_Walker> yup
Mar 28 20:18:14 <mib_8gpnn3> http://linux.omap.com/pipermail/linux-omap-open-source/2007-August/010792.html
Mar 28 20:18:23 <mib_8gpnn3> "did you do the make for the defconfig?"
Mar 28 20:20:39 <mib_8gpnn3> there's no palmtx_defconfig in here -- I'll try using what's in the hackndev git repository
Mar 28 20:21:15 <Sleep_Walker> it's not good idea
Mar 28 20:21:21 <mib_8gpnn3> no?
Mar 28 20:21:30 <mib_8gpnn3> hmm
Mar 28 20:21:54 <mib_8gpnn3> I see a palmte, palmtt, palmz71, and palmz72 defconfig file
Mar 28 20:22:08 <Sleep_Walker> it's not up to date
Mar 28 20:22:21 <mib_8gpnn3> what do I do now then?
Mar 28 20:23:41 <Sleep_Walker> problem is elsewhere
Mar 28 20:24:08 <Sleep_Walker> I'm currently finishing some clean-ups for Treo680
Mar 28 20:24:20 <Sleep_Walker> then I'll rebuild kernel
Mar 28 20:24:37 <Sleep_Walker> and then I'll add T|X into my build system
Mar 28 20:24:52 <mib_8gpnn3> thanks!
Mar 28 20:26:18 <mib_8gpnn3> so when you've added the tx to your build system, will I be able to build the kernel and such on my computer?
Mar 28 20:29:36 <Sleep_Walker> no, but I'll be able to build that kernel and put it to other builds
Mar 28 20:30:21 <mib_8gpnn3> will you build the arm:devel kernel with marex's wifi patch and put it online?
Mar 28 20:31:50 <Sleep_Walker> yes, that was what I meant with that
Mar 28 20:32:05 <mib_8gpnn3> thank you -- that's great!
Mar 28 20:32:38 <mib_8gpnn3> I'll let you do that then :)
Mar 28 20:32:53 <mib_8gpnn3> (rather, stop bothering you so you can do it)
Mar 28 20:35:22 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: I'll prepare it in 30 mins I think
Mar 28 20:35:28 <Sleep_Walker> could you test it then?
Mar 28 20:35:37 <mib_8gpnn3> I think so
Mar 28 20:35:46 <mib_8gpnn3> will it work with miska's root filesystem?
Mar 28 20:36:05 <mib_8gpnn3> my next project is to make my own rootfs, but this is a good start :)
Mar 28 20:36:26 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: well, miska uses loopback on FAT?
Mar 28 20:36:44 <Sleep_Walker> I never had TX/T5 so I couldn't try it...
Mar 28 20:36:48 <mib_8gpnn3> the rootfs I've been using is ext2
Mar 28 20:37:10 <mib_8gpnn3> he has a squashfs-lzma rootfs, but it's slower apparently so I didn't try it
Mar 28 20:37:19 <Sleep_Walker> but it's just file on FAT, right?
Mar 28 20:37:36 <mib_8gpnn3> yes
Mar 28 20:37:39 <mib_8gpnn3> sorry :)
Mar 28 20:37:41 <Sleep_Walker> squashfs-lzma did its work on T3 with broken driver for SD
Mar 28 20:37:45 <Sleep_Walker> np
Mar 28 20:38:08 <Sleep_Walker> well, to be able to use loopback I need to mount FAT first
Mar 28 20:38:17 <Sleep_Walker> it can be done in initrd
Mar 28 20:38:24 <Sleep_Walker> (or initramfs)
Mar 28 20:38:28 <Sleep_Walker> but not without
Mar 28 20:38:59 <Sleep_Walker> you can create partition, copy your files to that partition and then you can use it with kernel I'll build
Mar 28 20:39:13 <mib_8gpnn3> sounds good
Mar 28 20:40:05 <Sleep_Walker> most of work can do for you my BFU installer :)
Mar 28 20:41:20 <mib_8gpnn3> should work, thanks
Mar 28 20:45:25 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: can you tell me, where you get your config?
Mar 28 20:45:31 <Sleep_Walker> from /proc/config.gz?
Mar 28 20:45:48 <Sleep_Walker> I can't find |miska|'s
Mar 28 20:47:38 <mib_8gpnn3> just a second
Mar 28 20:47:52 <mib_8gpnn3> http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/testing/kernel/
Mar 28 20:47:59 <mib_8gpnn3> config-tx-hackndev
Mar 28 20:48:00 <Sleep_Walker> thanks
Mar 28 20:48:09 <mib_8gpnn3> (I hope that's the right file... :)
Mar 28 20:49:17 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: are there other files to be applied for TX?
Mar 28 20:49:29 <Sleep_Walker> (other than 2 patches for WiFi)
Mar 28 20:51:09 <mib_8gpnn3> http://hackndev.com/node/276 suggests "you might also need this patch"
Mar 28 20:51:41 <mib_8gpnn3> I had to apply it manually since the whitespace wasn't preserved or something got messed up
Mar 28 20:51:46 <mib_8gpnn3> don't know what it's for
Mar 28 20:52:26 <Sleep_Walker> I think it will enable some other channels for WiFi, but I'm guessing
Mar 28 20:53:04 <mib_8gpnn3> might be
Mar 28 20:53:08 <Sleep_Walker> ls /OE/Marex-patches/*palmtx*
Mar 28 20:53:09 <Sleep_Walker> /OE/Marex-patches/08-make-palmtx_battery-wm97xx_battery.patch  /OE/Marex-patches/13-palmtx-pcmcia-fixes.patch
Mar 28 20:53:11 <Sleep_Walker> /OE/Marex-patches/12-palmtx-fixes.patch                        /OE/Marex-patches/14-palmtx-asoc-and-batt.patch
Mar 28 20:53:33 <Sleep_Walker> I've got 4 patches here, it seems that I need to check if they're already applied
Mar 28 20:53:42 <mib_8gpnn3> oh... I didn't see any of those
Mar 28 20:53:52 <mib_8gpnn3> so many patches, so little time :)
Mar 28 20:56:30 <Sleep_Walker> ok, they seemed mostly applied
Mar 28 21:00:19 <mib_8gpnn3> how long does it usually take to compile a kernel?
Mar 28 21:10:59 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: 5-15 mins
Mar 28 21:11:10 <Sleep_Walker> it depends on status of compiled stuff
Mar 28 21:11:17 <Sleep_Walker> there was simple problem
Mar 28 21:11:34 <Sleep_Walker> Palm T|X wasn't selected to compile :)
Mar 28 21:11:45 <Sleep_Walker> (no palm PDA at all)
Mar 28 21:12:07 <mib_8gpnn3> oops :)
Mar 28 21:12:08 <Sleep_Walker> I think that it was because that |miska|'s config was too old
Mar 28 21:12:20 <mib_8gpnn3> hm.  now what?
Mar 28 21:12:39 <Sleep_Walker> now it is compiling
Mar 28 21:12:49 <Sleep_Walker> after that I'll publish it
Mar 28 21:12:55 <mib_8gpnn3> oh, ok -- you fixed the problem with miska's config?
Mar 28 21:13:02 <Sleep_Walker> yup
Mar 28 21:13:09 <mib_8gpnn3> I've never compiled a kernel before, so I don't know how exactly this works :)
Mar 28 21:13:39 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: as I said, I don't know PalmTX internals, so there is chance that something won't work
Mar 28 21:13:49 <Sleep_Walker> if that will happen, send me a note
Mar 28 21:14:00 <mib_8gpnn3> alright, will do
Mar 28 21:14:27 <mib_8gpnn3> will this kernel support only partitions, or loopback on FAT as well?
Mar 28 21:15:21 <Sleep_Walker> only partition
Mar 28 21:15:39 <mib_8gpnn3> alright
Mar 28 21:15:50 <Sleep_Walker> if you want to support loopback on FAT, you'd probably need to create initrd
Mar 28 21:16:09 <mib_8gpnn3> I think that a real partition is probably easier
Mar 28 21:16:19 <mib_8gpnn3> esp. because I can more easily tweak it
Mar 28 21:16:55 <mib_8gpnn3> can I put miska's image (from the loopback rootfs) in a partition and expect things to work?
Mar 28 21:18:24 <mib_8gpnn3> once the kernel works I want to make a new rootfs (I'd like to try GPE or something with X11) anyway -- is that hard?
Mar 28 21:19:02 <Sleep_Walker> yes, just copy it and it should work
Mar 28 21:19:32 <mib_8gpnn3> great (now I just have to hope that opie has support for wifi)
Mar 28 21:19:33 <Sleep_Walker> making new rootfs is uneasy and unpleasant task
Mar 28 21:19:44 <mib_8gpnn3> I suspected as much :)
Mar 28 21:19:52 <Sleep_Walker> |miska| is currently our rootfs builder
Mar 28 21:20:03 <Sleep_Walker> you can choose one of already built
Mar 28 21:20:30 <Sleep_Walker> or you can spend month to create your own with at least the same quality :)
Mar 28 21:20:50 <mib_8gpnn3> I think I'll go for one of |miska|'s :)
Mar 28 21:21:11 <mib_8gpnn3> just as long as it'll work with this different kernel, I'll be happy
Mar 28 21:21:15 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/release/TX/linux-2.6-arm/partition/1/
Mar 28 21:21:50 <Sleep_Walker> I'll enhance BFU installer script to cover rest of devices
Mar 28 21:22:03 <Sleep_Walker> I'd like to provide my kernel build and miska's rootfs
Mar 28 21:22:16 <Sleep_Walker> it should already work for Treo680
Mar 28 21:22:29 <Sleep_Walker> and - there should be no change for other devices
Mar 28 21:25:02 <mib_8gpnn3> Sleep_Walker: what should I do first?
Mar 28 21:25:25 <Sleep_Walker> zImage, cocoboot.conf into / on card
Mar 28 21:25:29 <Sleep_Walker> (FAT)
Mar 28 21:25:41 <mib_8gpnn3> alright
Mar 28 21:25:42 <Sleep_Walker> err
Mar 28 21:25:45 <Sleep_Walker> sorry
Mar 28 21:25:49 <Sleep_Walker> 1] backup card
Mar 28 21:25:58 <Sleep_Walker> 2] partition card
Mar 28 21:26:09 <Sleep_Walker> 3] create filesystem (FAT, EXT2)
Mar 28 21:26:24 <Sleep_Walker> (3,5] you can create also swap)
Mar 28 21:26:59 <mib_8gpnn3> I've a 2GB sd card
Mar 28 21:27:06 <mib_8gpnn3> how do you recommend partitioning?
Mar 28 21:27:12 <mib_8gpnn3> swap sounds good
Mar 28 21:27:30 <Sleep_Walker> check current rootfs size
Mar 28 21:27:45 <Sleep_Walker> that should give you some minimum for EXT2 size
Mar 28 21:28:14 <Sleep_Walker> FAT is the only partition PalmOS can see - If you want to use both - use at least 1gb for FAT
Mar 28 21:28:26 <Sleep_Walker> swap 64 Mb should be fine
Mar 28 21:28:42 <mib_8gpnn3> it's 180MB
Mar 28 21:28:45 <mib_8gpnn3> alright
Mar 28 21:29:14 <mib_8gpnn3> so 1gb FAT, 1gb-64mb ext2, 64mb swap
Mar 28 21:29:31 <Sleep_Walker> 4] copy cocoboot.prc into FAT/palm/Launcher, cocoboot.conf and zImage into FAT/
Mar 28 21:29:48 <Sleep_Walker> 5] mount EXT2, mount backed up loopback
Mar 28 21:30:28 <Sleep_Walker> 6] copy loopback contents into EXT2 partition (be careful about rights and ownership, use root)
Mar 28 21:30:50 <Sleep_Walker> 7] extract my kernel modules archive into EXT2
Mar 28 21:30:56 <Sleep_Walker> 8] umount
Mar 28 21:31:49 <mib_8gpnn3> thanks
Mar 28 21:32:09 <mib_8gpnn3> I'll get out a linux computer and give that a shot (this computer runs macos)
Mar 28 21:33:12 <mib_8gpnn3> be back in 10 minutes or so :)
Mar 28 21:33:24 * flyback is going to use the 256mb flash drive built in to his t5 to load the kernel so he can use large slhc cards formatted ext2
Mar 28 21:34:24 <Sleep_Walker> flyback: you can use cocoboot to pack kernel inside (like old Garux did)
Mar 28 21:34:36 <Sleep_Walker> so you don't need any other card
Mar 28 21:35:17 <flyback> well I am saying I can use the build in 160 meg flash drive
Mar 28 21:35:20 <flyback> for the kernel
Mar 28 21:35:32 <flyback> so I can have 2 sd cards
Mar 28 21:35:42 <flyback> one for palm os for now and one SDHC card for linux
Mar 28 21:35:46 <flyback> soon to be linux only eventually
Mar 28 21:35:54 <flyback> biggest challange right now is what to do with all my plucker files
Mar 28 21:35:56 <flyback> I can't lose those
Mar 28 21:36:11 <Sleep_Walker> Fbreader or Opie reader can handle it
Mar 28 21:36:29 <flyback> hmm I think I tried opie and it crashed an dburned on many of them
Mar 28 21:40:12 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: does it work for you?
Mar 28 21:48:28 <mib_8gpnn3> Sleep_Walker: sorry, I just got my linux laptop out
Mar 28 21:48:56 <Sleep_Walker> np with me
Mar 28 21:49:07 <Sleep_Walker> but I'd like to continue with Treo680
Mar 28 21:49:20 <Sleep_Walker> so rebuilding will take longer than now
Mar 28 21:49:47 <mib_8gpnn3> sorry :/
Mar 28 21:50:59 <mib_8gpnn3> I'm installing gparted, just a minute
Mar 28 21:51:04 <mib_8gpnn3> how do I set up the swap partition?
Mar 28 21:51:12 <mib_8gpnn3> just create it, or is it a special file system?
Mar 28 22:00:27 <mib_8gpnn3> Sleep_Walker: I'm partitioning my SD card
Mar 28 22:00:54 <mib_8gpnn3> 768.74MiB FAT, 62.75MiB linux-swap, 1.08GiB ext2
Mar 28 22:01:36 <Sleep_Walker> mkswap
Mar 28 22:01:50 <Sleep_Walker> if you didn't already that
Mar 28 22:02:10 <mib_8gpnn3> I told gparted to make a 64MiB partition formatted linux-swap
Mar 28 22:02:11 <Sleep_Walker> create ext2 as second and swap as third
Mar 28 22:02:14 <mib_8gpnn3> oh
Mar 28 22:02:18 <mib_8gpnn3> time to reformat :)
Mar 28 22:02:21 <Sleep_Walker> or fix cocoboot :)
Mar 28 22:02:27 <Sleep_Walker> (cocoboot.conf)
Mar 28 22:02:56 <Sleep_Walker> partitioner in BFU installer doesn't give option to have different order
Mar 28 22:03:10 <mib_8gpnn3> so what should I do in gparted?
Mar 28 22:03:13 <Sleep_Walker> it is easier to create and handle :)
Mar 28 22:03:21 <mib_8gpnn3> (not using BFU installer, didn't know I could yet)
Mar 28 22:03:29 <Sleep_Walker> first - FAT
Mar 28 22:03:32 <Sleep_Walker> second - EXT2
Mar 28 22:03:37 <Sleep_Walker> third - SWAP
Mar 28 22:03:50 <Sleep_Walker> sizes due to your needs
Mar 28 22:04:56 <mib_8gpnn3> ok, I'm about to apply with 509.88MiB fat16, 1.33GiB ext2, 62.75MiB linux-swap in that order
Mar 28 22:05:55 <Sleep_Walker> fine with me
Mar 28 22:06:17 <Sleep_Walker> continue with 4], 5], ...
Mar 28 22:07:32 <mib_8gpnn3> ok, it looks like it's done
Mar 28 22:07:39 <mib_8gpnn3> and it ran mkswap on the swap partition
Mar 28 22:07:44 <Sleep_Walker> fine
Mar 28 22:12:10 * mib_8gpnn3 is transferring the rootfs stuff to his linux laptop, sorry for the delay Sleep_Walker :)
Mar 28 22:12:34 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: I have no hurry since I'm working on my Treo680 :)
Mar 28 22:13:05 <mib_8gpnn3> oh, sorry, I misunderstood then -- thought you needed me to test this more quickly so you could work on your 680 :)
Mar 28 22:17:13 <Sleep_Walker> I didn't wait ;D
Mar 28 22:18:06 <mib_8gpnn3> whatever works :D
Mar 28 22:18:29 <mib_8gpnn3> alright, I've mounted the loopbackfs -- can I just sudo cp -r /mnt/loopback /media/disk-1?
Mar 28 22:24:12 <mib_8gpnn3> Sleep_Walker: alright, I'm doing sudo cp -rp /loopback /target
Mar 28 22:24:17 <mib_8gpnn3> hopefully that will work :)
Mar 28 22:24:29 <Sleep_Walker> I wish you luck
Mar 28 22:24:41 <mib_8gpnn3> did I do something wrong?
Mar 28 22:24:48 <Sleep_Walker> I hope not :)
Mar 28 22:24:55 * mib_8gpnn3 crosses fingers
Mar 28 22:28:40 <mib_8gpnn3> ok, I think it worked
Mar 28 22:28:51 <mib_8gpnn3> it went to /media/disk-1/loopback but I moved everything into /media/disk-1
Mar 28 22:34:07 <Sleep_Walker> just be careful about permissions
Mar 28 22:35:46 <mib_8gpnn3> it looks like everything was fine except for the modules
Mar 28 22:35:51 <mib_8gpnn3> had to chown them to root:root
Mar 28 22:36:01 <mib_8gpnn3> I also removed build and source (symlink to /OE/...)
Mar 28 22:36:39 <mib_8gpnn3> now, going to shut down that linux laptop and try the linux *pda* and hope for the best :D
Mar 28 22:38:43 * mib_8gpnn3 extracts wifi firmware
Mar 28 22:41:26 <mib_8gpnn3> Sleep_Walker: cocoboot says that /initrd.gz not found! (-3) -- don't know if that's a problem
Mar 28 22:41:30 <mib_8gpnn3> about to try booting
Mar 28 22:41:33 <mib_8gpnn3> here goes nothing
Mar 28 22:41:45 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: no initrd is not problem
Mar 28 22:42:11 <Sleep_Walker> I didn't create one, it will jump directly to partition
Mar 28 22:42:14 <mib_8gpnn3> it'll boot without one?
Mar 28 22:42:16 <mib_8gpnn3> oh, ok
Mar 28 22:42:24 <mib_8gpnn3> "INIT: version 2.86 booting"
Mar 28 22:42:25 <Sleep_Walker> (if everything will work properly)
Mar 28 22:42:31 <Sleep_Walker> you're there man
Mar 28 22:42:40 <mib_8gpnn3> well, it's not doing anything yet
Mar 28 22:42:52 <Sleep_Walker> "INIT: version 2.86 booting"
Mar 28 22:43:01 <Sleep_Walker> is run from your card
Mar 28 22:43:14 <mib_8gpnn3> so it's ok that nothing's changing on screen?
Mar 28 22:43:22 <mib_8gpnn3> it seems to be frozen
Mar 28 22:43:30 <Sleep_Walker> does cursor blink?
Mar 28 22:43:35 <Sleep_Walker> oh
Mar 28 22:43:44 <Sleep_Walker> miska uses initial ramdisk
Mar 28 22:43:46 <mib_8gpnn3> no, cursor isn't blinking :/
Mar 28 22:43:59 <mib_8gpnn3> do I need to copy the initrd over from miska's setup?
Mar 28 22:44:01 <Sleep_Walker> he may compile something important as moduule :/
Mar 28 22:44:13 <Sleep_Walker> nope
Mar 28 22:44:23 <mib_8gpnn3> what should I do now?
Mar 28 22:44:29 <mib_8gpnn3> so close... yet so far :)
Mar 28 22:44:43 <Sleep_Walker> I just have to go through configuration once again and build another one
Mar 28 22:44:51 <mib_8gpnn3> ok
Mar 28 22:45:00 <Sleep_Walker> you'll just switch zImage and put modules on ext2
Mar 28 22:45:06 <mib_8gpnn3> alright
Mar 28 22:45:16 <mib_8gpnn3> can I safely reset the pda right now?
Mar 28 22:45:26 <Sleep_Walker> how do I know? :)
Mar 28 22:45:35 <Sleep_Walker> I never had TX before
Mar 28 22:45:49 <mib_8gpnn3> well, here goes nothing :D
Mar 28 22:46:55 <mib_8gpnn3> ok, I'm back in palm os
Mar 28 22:47:07 <mib_8gpnn3> good luck recompiling -- how soon do you think you'll have another test image?
Mar 28 22:51:41 <mib_8gpnn3> Sleep_Walker: I'll be back in 10-15 minutes... thanks again for your help!
Mar 28 22:52:17 <Sleep_Walker> I'm focused on stable suspend-to-mem/resume on Treo680
Mar 28 22:52:39 <mib_8gpnn3> alright
Mar 28 22:52:48 <Sleep_Walker> I think I'll be able to do it tomorrow
Mar 28 22:52:56 <mib_8gpnn3> thanks
Mar 28 22:53:05 <mib_8gpnn3> there's nothing I can do on my own to try to fix this?
Mar 28 22:53:11 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: what time it is now? :)
Mar 28 22:53:48 <Sleep_Walker> mib_8gpnn3: you can use my config and walk through kernel configuration and all M mark as * :)
Mar 28 22:53:56 <Sleep_Walker> and try to build
Mar 28 22:54:22 <mib_8gpnn3> Sleep_Walker: what timezone are you in?
Mar 28 22:54:32 <Sleep_Walker> GMT+1
Mar 28 22:54:35 <mib_8gpnn3> I'm in PST -- it's 1600
Mar 28 22:54:46 <mib_8gpnn3> so it already *is* tomorrow for you :P
Mar 28 22:54:47 <Sleep_Walker> 23:54 here
Mar 28 22:55:01 <mib_8gpnn3> gotcha
Mar 28 22:55:13 <Sleep_Walker> my build, my timezone :b
Mar 28 22:55:21 <mib_8gpnn3> that's perfectly reasonable :)
Mar 28 22:55:29 <mib_8gpnn3> so by "tomorrow" what time do you mean?
Mar 28 22:56:37 <Sleep_Walker> try to ask in 12 hours
Mar 28 22:56:39 <Sleep_Walker> :b
Mar 28 22:57:04 <Sleep_Walker> 8 for sleep, 4 for work :b
Mar 28 22:57:10 * Sleep_Walker is Sleep_Worker
Mar 28 22:57:27 <mib_8gpnn3> hm... that's 4am local time
Mar 28 22:57:49 <mib_8gpnn3> I probably won't be up for another 1-2 hrs
Mar 28 22:57:54 <mib_8gpnn3> at least :)
Mar 28 23:01:29 <mib_8gpnn3> alright, I've downloaded your config... what do you mean "all M mark as *"?
Mar 28 23:01:40 <mib_8gpnn3> I'm in `make ARCH=arm menuconfig`
Mar 28 23:05:09 <mib_8gpnn3> oh, I see.  include everything without using modules?
Mar 28 23:05:12 <mib_8gpnn3> worth a shot...
Mar 28 23:12:13 <mib_8gpnn3> Sleep_Walker: I think I've marked all M as *.  now what do I do?
Mar 28 23:12:50 <Sleep_Walker> save
Mar 28 23:12:56 <Sleep_Walker> build
Mar 28 23:13:06 <mib_8gpnn3> it's saved...how do I build?
Mar 28 23:13:15 <Sleep_Walker> make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=....
Mar 28 23:13:24 <Sleep_Walker> and finally
Mar 28 23:13:30 <Sleep_Walker> mount ext2
Mar 28 23:13:54 <Sleep_Walker> make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=.... INSTALL_MOD_PATH=/path/to/your/ext2 modules_install
Mar 28 23:13:57 <Sleep_Walker> umount
Mar 28 23:14:06 <mib_8gpnn3> alright, I'm running make ARCH CROSS_COMPILE
Mar 28 23:14:11 <Sleep_Walker> mount fat, fix cocoboot.conf (to use right name)
Mar 28 23:14:19 <Sleep_Walker> umount
Mar 28 23:14:21 <Sleep_Walker> try
Mar 28 23:14:58 <mib_8gpnn3> the kernel seems to be compiling
Mar 28 23:17:01 <mib_8gpnn3> that's interesting...
Mar 28 23:17:09 <mib_8gpnn3> on a whim I rebooted linux with your kernel
Mar 28 23:17:17 <mib_8gpnn3> and it got past "INIT: booting"
Mar 28 23:17:26 <mib_8gpnn3> now it's stuck at "Cleaning: /etc/network/ifstate"
Mar 28 23:21:58 * mib_8gpnn3 manually cleans ifstate and hopes for the best
Mar 28 23:28:16 <mib_8gpnn3> Sleep_Walker: i don't understand this.  linux starts booting and then randomly freezes when it gets to a certain point, be it "INIT: version 2.86 booting," "freeing init memory," "cleaning /etc/network/ifstate," etc
Mar 28 23:28:19 <mib_8gpnn3> any ideas?
Mar 28 23:29:43 <Sleep_Walker> nope
Mar 28 23:30:04 <Sleep_Walker> it would be interesting to see dmesg output if is  something broken there
Mar 28 23:32:37 <mib_8gpnn3> how do you manually clean /etc/network/ifstate?
Mar 28 23:32:41 <mib_8gpnn3> empty it, or delete it?
Mar 28 23:33:27 <Sleep_Walker> follow /etc/init.d/networking
Mar 28 23:35:06 <Sleep_Walker> I don't know that rc script well
Mar 28 23:47:23 * mib_8gpnn3 is frustrated
Mar 28 23:47:31 <mib_8gpnn3> now it's stuck at "freeing init memory"
Mar 28 23:47:36 <mib_8gpnn3> Sleep_Walker: how would I get dmesg output?
Mar 28 23:48:12 <Sleep_Walker> using dmesg command
Mar 28 23:48:29 <Sleep_Walker> weird
Mar 28 23:54:12 <mib_8gpnn3> how would I use the dmesg command?
Mar 28 23:54:15 <mib_8gpnn3> it's not even booting
Mar 29 00:39:47 * flyback /me can't even sit down the back spams are so bad from lifting grandma off the floor when she fell
Mar 29 00:45:12 <bernaserra> hey
Mar 29 00:49:07 * flyback might have to go to the ER
Mar 29 01:53:50 * flyback continues to build another socket370 p3/celeron dell i815 gx150 box for some projects
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