**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Thu Apr 02 02:59:57 2009 Apr 02 03:01:24 * mekius goes to take a nap while his kernel builds Apr 02 03:06:42 doh "/usr/bin/arm-elf-ld: libgcc.a: No such file: No such file or directory" Apr 02 03:06:45 wtf is that :/ Apr 02 03:07:15 ah, seems an issue with my arm gcc install Apr 02 03:30:09 Sleep_Walker: so the 680 has this usb connector, does the centro have this too? I would be super happy to hear that I could plug in a wifi dongle and get wifi while in linux heh Apr 02 03:31:03 Sleep_Walker: I'm looking at your blog entry here: http://live.jabbim.cz/1755-long_time_no_see :) Apr 02 04:26:02 hah, so I booted my kernel and it sorta worked heh Apr 02 04:26:28 it booted with centro as device, seems my mic defaulted to passthrough to the speaker and the keyboard wasn't working Apr 02 04:26:42 think I might know the kbd issue so going to try to rebuild quick :) Apr 02 04:32:11 gah, that was odd, loaded kernel with cocoboot and my screen started to slowly fade white heh Apr 02 04:32:55 hmm, good that time, odd Apr 02 04:33:54 raster: is there a kernel param that will stop exquisite from running? Apr 02 04:35:05 hmm, wish I had tab complete on here :/ Apr 02 04:35:51 shit, still getting the issue where the screen dies, must be auto suspend or something :/ Apr 02 04:35:57 mekius: nup Apr 02 04:36:04 or wait Apr 02 04:36:08 maybe nosplash Apr 02 04:36:12 maybe Apr 02 04:36:13 i think Apr 02 04:36:16 cant remember Apr 02 04:36:31 k Apr 02 04:37:45 what was the command to do the calibration? Apr 02 04:37:57 it runs like the first time I start the device, but doesn't run again after that Apr 02 04:42:03 Sleep_Walker: it is consistently booting though which is nice Apr 02 04:46:59 raster: hmm, I use x11=false and it seems to just get stuck after telling me x11 is disabled :/ Apr 02 04:55:28 ts_calibrate Apr 02 10:39:01 Sleep-Walker: is that you? Apr 02 10:39:19 emfox: no, I'm Sleep_Walker's twin ;) Apr 02 10:39:32 emfox: hi Apr 02 10:39:49 let me introduce Belldandy, our IRC bot Apr 02 10:39:57 Sleep_Walker: April 1th has passed Apr 02 10:40:21 Belldandy: hello :) Apr 02 10:40:26 emfox: have you get message send through Belldandy? Apr 02 10:40:56 it should be sent, when you send line here Apr 02 10:40:57 yes, said not vaid command Apr 02 10:41:19 I meant the one I sent you with @later tell function Apr 02 10:41:33 @later tell emfox hello! Apr 02 10:41:34 Sleep_Walker: The operation succeeded. Apr 02 10:41:55 feel free to leave me note here, I'll do the same Apr 02 10:42:22 emfox: I've got troubles with your mapping of non-qwerty buttons Apr 02 10:42:43 you probably have this for console, but it breaks OPIE Apr 02 10:42:44 ok Apr 02 10:43:06 emfox: create plese 0.2 - I'll mark it as suitable for console Apr 02 10:43:13 err. 0.3 Apr 02 10:43:21 I'll mark 0.2 as suitable for console Apr 02 10:43:24 that's it Apr 02 10:43:43 and - you said you were able to play sound Apr 02 10:43:50 could you store alsa settings for that? Apr 02 10:44:28 but I don't know what's wrong with Opie and keymap? Apr 02 10:44:30 using `alsactl store' Apr 02 10:44:43 I use it's values set in default Apr 02 10:44:47 so, if you change it Apr 02 10:44:54 Home button doesn't work anymore Apr 02 10:44:57 or mail Apr 02 10:45:02 or phone Apr 02 10:45:28 just please create another version without that, ok? Apr 02 10:45:56 got that Apr 02 10:46:24 the keymap also work in X? Apr 02 10:46:44 I don't know Apr 02 10:46:50 OPIE runs in framebuffer Apr 02 10:47:05 and X has it's own mapping, but who knows Apr 02 10:47:07 you can try Apr 02 10:47:23 but - will you create that alsa profiles please? Apr 02 10:47:28 so, OK, I'll create one later Apr 02 10:47:32 ok Apr 02 10:47:41 thanks Apr 02 10:47:46 no need to hurry Apr 02 10:47:56 I just did follow alex's instruction Apr 02 10:48:15 it doesn't matter much :) Apr 02 10:48:22 all the alsamixer setting are the same Apr 02 10:48:34 if you create such profile, it can be used for GSMd and other apps Apr 02 10:48:44 you'll save my time Apr 02 10:48:53 oh,ok, also later Apr 02 10:48:59 I'm fighting with GPIOs right now Apr 02 10:49:08 sd-power? Apr 02 10:49:13 also Apr 02 10:49:21 but there is problem with suspend on connected USB Apr 02 10:49:26 or Apr 02 10:49:37 touchscreen doesn't work after resume Apr 02 10:49:43 this need to be fixed Apr 02 10:50:05 if you'll take care of user space, you would be very helpful Apr 02 10:50:34 for which of usrspace. Apr 02 10:50:39 ? Apr 02 10:50:58 I try to find a suitable gsmd to work on Apr 02 10:51:14 well, any userspace Apr 02 10:51:18 it doesn't really matter Apr 02 10:51:31 maybe port openmoko's to our platform Apr 02 10:51:38 if you'll make GSMd working, it can be used in GPE, OpenMoko and others Apr 02 10:51:52 alsa mixer settings can be used even wider Apr 02 10:52:23 btw, the mixer setting is ok for phone call Apr 02 10:52:33 but not for playing music Apr 02 10:52:37 it depends on current state Apr 02 10:52:41 I do not know why Apr 02 10:53:12 1] enable amplifier power in /sys/devices/treo680-pm/amp* Apr 02 10:53:22 2] try to find it - I already had it Apr 02 10:53:33 but I lost it with card filesystem Apr 02 10:54:01 ok Apr 02 10:54:10 needed profiles for alsa: Apr 02 10:54:18 1] amplifier out Apr 02 10:54:25 2] stereo headphones out Apr 02 10:54:42 3] settings for call without handsfree Apr 02 10:54:49 4] settings for call with handsfree Apr 02 10:55:00 1,3 are important Apr 02 10:55:02 2,4 less Apr 02 10:55:30 there are different audio routes, but you probably already know that Apr 02 10:55:47 alsamixer gives you the way Apr 02 10:55:57 alsactl gives allow you to store it Apr 02 10:56:07 I could not very understand what's amp-out means Apr 02 10:56:24 emfox: have a look on back side of treo Apr 02 10:56:46 (when you run pocket tunes without earphones - where the sound goes?) Apr 02 10:56:57 got Apr 02 10:57:10 it's not the same as the one near your ear during calls Apr 02 10:57:21 I use it little Apr 02 10:57:22 fine Apr 02 10:57:55 emfox: when you use sound for events in GUI, that's the amplifier which should be used Apr 02 10:58:52 if you'll feel too occupied by my wishes, tell me ;D Apr 02 10:59:18 I'm glad that someone is helping me to bring Linux to Treo680 Apr 02 11:00:21 not,not any. Apr 02 11:00:32 I am happy I could help Apr 02 11:01:14 only problem is that I have not got a wired network Apr 02 11:01:59 all I have is the 680 and GPRS Apr 02 11:02:24 do you need any assistance with that? Apr 02 11:02:44 I can't imagine what can I do for you, but if you have something in mind... Apr 02 11:03:53 No, never mind. I moved very often, so I can't have Apr 02 11:04:24 and wifi here is not so popular Apr 02 11:05:03 Btw, I found there already has a gsmd on openmoko Apr 02 11:06:11 I haven't investigated it, don't know if it's suitable for porting Apr 02 11:06:55 how about wi-fi on PalmTX? It work now? Apr 02 11:07:16 and bluetooth Apr 02 11:08:20 I think to use a bluetooth GPS Apr 02 11:12:22 fdv_: yes, wifi works on TX Apr 02 11:12:36 bluetooth is known how to control Apr 02 11:12:52 but arm-devel doesn't contain needed stuff Apr 02 11:12:59 Can get image with this Apr 02 11:13:02 Marex has it on his Todo Apr 02 11:13:18 *Can I get image with this Apr 02 11:13:22 & Apr 02 11:13:24 ? Apr 02 11:13:26 |miska| promised to create one, check his pages Apr 02 11:13:43 from topic? Apr 02 11:13:51 if it is not there, try to wait a bit, it will be probably ready in week Apr 02 11:14:01 geez Apr 02 11:14:21 go on hackndev.com, check bootpacks page, look for TX Apr 02 11:14:46 and - don't be lazy :b Apr 02 11:16:04 I am not lazy, I am a "not sharp" Apr 02 11:16:09 :) Apr 02 11:16:43 fdv_: take your time ;b Apr 02 11:18:50 thank you Apr 02 11:19:10 I have it Apr 02 11:22:46 fine Apr 02 11:23:04 if there is no WiFi support, it will be there soon Apr 02 11:23:36 thank you Apr 02 11:23:41 np Apr 02 11:50:28 Sleep_Walker: see my messages? I got thek kernel to boot and everything seemed to work, but after awhile I would get similar behavior as before, the screen would go dark and then pressing any buttons would cause it to corrupt the screen Apr 02 11:50:47 Sleep_Walker: I'm wondering if it's some dpms settings in X or something turning off the screen after inactivity? Apr 02 11:51:04 If I leave it at the console it doesn't seem to do this Apr 02 11:51:16 Anyway, gotta leave for work, I'll talk to you in a couple hours :) Apr 02 12:32:24 <|miska|> I still don't have my TX back so I can't check status of WiFi Apr 02 12:33:43 <|miska|> Or create packages containing all neccessary stuff Apr 02 12:47:12 lets hope it will change during weekend Apr 02 12:49:39 how kernel for TX contain bluetooth? or where I can get a module for it. Apr 02 12:49:55 I have kernel without it Apr 02 12:50:12 buetooth not work Apr 02 12:51:10 you won't have bluetooth and wifi in the same kernel for some time Apr 02 12:52:32 ok Apr 02 14:25:57 Sleep_Walker: How goes the GPIO hunt? Apr 02 15:10:53 mekius: I'm also worker ;) Apr 02 15:18:25 ah :) Apr 02 18:34:16 looks like the bot kindof works Apr 02 18:39:47 marex: ? Apr 02 18:50:42 marex: well enough Apr 02 18:50:51 good Apr 02 18:51:26 Sleep_Walker: Btw, seems the kernel+modules I built last night allowed my sound to work, made my mic feedback into the speaker heh Apr 02 18:51:40 mekius: I know that Apr 02 18:51:43 made for an interesting surprise once it started to boot hehe Apr 02 18:51:49 that happened on Centro too Apr 02 18:51:54 Yeah I saw you talking to emfox about it Apr 02 18:52:01 I just watched and didn't understand for a while :) Apr 02 18:52:03 haha Apr 02 18:52:05 who is emfox ? Apr 02 18:52:15 marex: some chinese debianist Apr 02 18:52:19 helping Apr 02 18:52:24 lol, debianist :P Apr 02 18:52:25 why isnt he here ? Apr 02 18:52:38 marex: cause he uses upIRC ;) Apr 02 18:52:49 so what ? Apr 02 18:52:59 cant he use desktop irc client ? Apr 02 18:53:35 ask him Apr 02 18:53:52 marex: don't be rude to him! Apr 02 18:53:58 he's really helping Apr 02 18:54:20 finally someone taking care of userspace Apr 02 18:54:30 great Apr 02 18:54:52 @whois emfox Apr 02 18:55:11 gotta go now Apr 02 19:01:35 marex: Do you know if it's possible to generate a tab? trying to type in a terminal is excruciating without tab complete :D Apr 02 19:01:47 marex: on the centro that is :) Apr 02 19:02:03 well press the "tab" button Apr 02 19:03:21 if one existed I would :P Apr 02 19:03:29 why dont you add one ? Apr 02 19:03:56 well I was more wondering if one of the keys wasn't already mapped to that, but I'm guessing not based on your replies :P Apr 02 19:04:08 I have no idea Apr 02 19:04:16 k Apr 02 19:04:19 I only did the harder part of Centro port Apr 02 19:04:22 ;) Apr 02 19:04:29 I left these things on sleepwalker Apr 02 19:05:09 hehe Apr 02 19:05:14 What is the hard part? Apr 02 19:16:41 for example suspend ;-) Apr 02 19:17:24 just joking ... suspend was quite easy compared to palmtt3s' one ;) Apr 02 19:17:53 ah Apr 02 19:18:09 yeah still getting weird things with my screen just blanking out randomly and not coming back Apr 02 19:18:21 the keys stay lit, but the screen goes black, kinda weird Apr 02 19:18:30 didn't have a chance to debug it at all though, feel asleep heh Apr 02 19:19:14 not sure if it's X telling the screen to blank, would that even work? Apr 02 19:50:48 marex: So where is the one called Alex these days? Apr 02 20:55:16 back :) Apr 02 20:56:57 Sleep_Walker: wb Apr 02 20:58:33 hm, I need restart of X for dual head :/ Apr 02 21:03:37 much better Apr 02 21:07:02 xrandr? Apr 02 21:11:41 twinview Apr 02 21:11:55 I tried XRandr, but TwinView seems to be faster Apr 02 21:12:31 ah Apr 02 21:12:51 Faster performance wise Apr 02 21:12:52 ? Apr 02 21:12:57 Or setup heh Apr 02 21:13:16 Cause I'll agree xrandr can be a pain to use heh Apr 02 21:14:21 I think it's because of ugly nVidias driver Apr 02 21:14:43 one day, maybe... nouveau driver will be so good that it will even work :b Apr 02 21:16:07 yeah Apr 02 21:16:13 hope :) Apr 02 21:16:34 Funny enough I was considering actually buying an AMD card for my new machine heh Apr 02 21:16:59 I can recommend now only Intel Apr 02 21:17:10 but AMD maybe is not so bad choice Apr 02 21:17:48 well intel has issues as well... Apr 02 21:17:58 I have intel in my laptop, really not that great heh Apr 02 21:18:14 for xrandr it works alright, but it has issues elsewhere Apr 02 21:19:09 as one my colegue say - HW developers should be shot Apr 02 21:20:38 lol Apr 02 21:21:26 he's some Alpha guru and he tries to create his own PDA :) Apr 02 21:21:51 :) Apr 02 21:35:18 @ping Apr 02 21:35:18 pong Apr 02 21:35:24 wow Apr 02 21:35:42 I switched to cable without closing socket :b Apr 02 21:37:27 ? Apr 02 21:37:36 oh nvm Apr 02 21:38:15 I've got router and I switched from WiFi to cable (using same address) Apr 02 22:03:21 yeah Apr 02 22:08:33 Sleep_Walker, can you try tinkering with the bluetooth using only shell and GPIO sysfs interface on palmld ? Apr 02 22:09:39 marex: if I'll be able to boot from card - yes Apr 02 22:10:01 you are still unable to ? Apr 02 22:10:21 I abandoned trying it Apr 02 22:10:29 Im sending you my .config for T5 Apr 02 22:10:33 it works with LD too Apr 02 22:10:48 ok Apr 02 22:11:16 Sleep_Walker, btw were you serious about the new Lobo comming ? Apr 02 22:12:01 yeah Apr 02 22:12:07 prepare for apocalypse Apr 02 22:12:24 even Lobo junior will shoot your ass in 0verkill ;D Apr 02 22:13:24 Sleep_Walker, about when should I start shaking with fear ? ;-) Apr 02 22:13:58 btw. yea, old fart Lobo is already too senile to stop me in 0verkill ;D Apr 02 22:14:16 marex: ~ 7,5 months Apr 02 22:14:40 Sleep_Walker, btw wasnt Lobo able to multiply by just tearing away parts of his body ? Apr 02 22:15:07 (at least till that ... how was he called ... sealed that ability away) Apr 02 22:16:48 ah Vril Dox Apr 02 23:05:55 marex: too bad Apr 02 23:06:04 I used your config and it do the same Apr 02 23:06:17 then your card might be broken Apr 02 23:06:26 dunno ... does the card work with PXAMCI on other device ? Apr 02 23:06:49 marex: 1] I tried all 3 cards Apr 02 23:07:05 2] yes, Treos 680 works fine Apr 02 23:08:56 I might look into it tomorow Apr 02 23:09:02 but we tested it, didnt we ? Apr 02 23:09:13 at least we tested it with my card and it worked Apr 02 23:09:15 I only failed Apr 02 23:09:25 btw try sticking a small delay before mounting the card Apr 02 23:09:29 I don't use initial ramdisk Apr 02 23:09:31 5 seconds is a must-go Apr 02 23:09:37 Sleep_Walker, then use one Apr 02 23:09:38 I've got rootwai Apr 02 23:09:42 rootwait Apr 02 23:09:45 Sleep_Walker, try with initramfs Apr 02 23:09:49 it waits until it appears Apr 02 23:09:53 why so? Apr 02 23:10:01 I wanna confirm something Apr 02 23:10:26 marex: hm, so I have to create one Apr 02 23:12:11 just compile busybox ... you need only crosscompiler which you already have, nothing else Apr 02 23:12:26 in busybox's menuconfig you set the crossCC prefix and that's it Apr 02 23:15:42 I'll take kEdAR's binaries Apr 02 23:20:53 do you have some wishes about what should be done by initramfs? Apr 02 23:21:11 nah ... just wait and then try mounting the card Apr 02 23:21:25 btw I assume you have vfat and msdosfs support in kernel ;) Apr 02 23:21:33 ;) Apr 02 23:21:47 Like I need it for mounting ext2 Apr 02 23:27:59 try it with vfat then Apr 02 23:28:09 Im really curious if it works Apr 02 23:29:03 marex: I don't have there information about found partitions like usual Apr 02 23:29:25 I'll check config for partitioning Apr 02 23:31:36 geez Apr 02 23:33:05 I can't see it in your config (support for partitioning) Apr 02 23:33:12 I'd rather use mine :b Apr 02 23:33:55 you dont need any Apr 02 23:34:10 marex: I have ext2 partition - remember? Apr 02 23:34:12 just enable FSes you want and that's all Apr 03 00:40:46 @later tell marex initramfs tested - same results Apr 03 00:40:46 Sleep_Walker: The operation succeeded. Apr 03 01:39:35 ah Apr 03 01:40:01 If X tried to blank the screen would it work? Apr 03 01:40:08 on the centro Apr 03 01:40:28 wtf blank? Apr 03 01:41:01 Like on a normal PC, the monitor goes to sleep after a few minutes of inactivity Apr 03 01:41:32 I don't know what X calls to do such thing Apr 03 01:41:36 k Apr 03 01:41:50 I think it uses some protocol with the monitor, I'm guessing not Apr 03 01:41:56 If you don't know about it, it probably doesn't happen :) Apr 03 01:42:14 it surprise me often ;) Apr 03 01:42:20 My screen is still going out with the kernel I built, no longer goes white, but instead appears to completely turn off Apr 03 01:42:47 then when I press a key I get white with corruption and then it eventually turns off again Apr 03 01:42:58 the keys stay lit the whole time heh Apr 03 01:43:14 I'm not doing any suspend/resume that I know of Apr 03 01:44:18 Anyway, do you have this happen with the GSM version you have? Apr 03 01:45:01 sorry, my brain doesn't work at 4 o'clock in the morning Apr 03 01:45:10 could you paint it and send through e-mail? Apr 03 01:45:12 oh hehe Apr 03 01:45:31 what is your email address? Apr 03 01:45:58 try nick @ out_server_with_web Apr 03 01:46:17 huh? Apr 03 01:46:25 try nick @ our_server_with_web Apr 03 01:46:26 typo Apr 03 01:46:39 oh heh Apr 03 01:46:47 I get it now :) **** ENDING LOGGING AT Fri Apr 03 02:59:56 2009