**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Sat Apr 04 02:59:57 2009
Apr 04 11:47:50 <enthdegree> Is there any way to enter text directly on your Palm when booted to a kernel?
Apr 04 13:38:11 <Sleep_Walker> raster: hi
Apr 04 13:38:22 <Sleep_Walker> I finally tried your image
Apr 04 13:51:16 <Sleep_Walker> 1] last version of root image doesn't have kernel modules
Apr 04 13:55:22 <Sleep_Walker> 2] it's not much application rich - it is possible for example create your packages for debian armel?
Apr 04 15:29:08 <Sleep_Walker> hi, mekius
Apr 04 15:29:33 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: we've got here HackWeekEnd :b
Apr 04 15:29:43 <Sleep_Walker> marex, |miska| and myself in one pub :b
Apr 04 15:30:20 <Sleep_Walker> marex gave me some hints about sound/touchscreen - maybe it fix the problem with touchscreen after suspend
Apr 04 16:10:46 * flyback grumbles as his cfl burns out
Apr 04 16:10:57 * flyback fumbles around
Apr 04 16:12:02 <flyback> http://cbs11tv.com/local/Core.IP.Networks.2.974706.html <--- come on big meter, wipe out the human race
Apr 04 16:12:07 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: Is that every weekend or is this one particularly special? :)
Apr 04 16:12:24 <Sleep_Walker> special one
Apr 04 16:12:32 <mekius> ah
Apr 04 16:12:47 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: ah hehe
Apr 04 16:12:48 <mekius> I see
Apr 04 16:12:53 <Sleep_Walker> Linux Expo is getting near
Apr 04 16:16:11 * flyback brb phone
Apr 04 16:28:13 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: Feels good to build my own kernel :D
Apr 04 16:28:26 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: Do you have any new patches yet or still working on it?
Apr 04 16:28:35 <mekius> Or are these changes mostly userspace?
Apr 04 16:31:55 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: trying to use Marex's aSoC driver now
Apr 04 16:32:15 <Sleep_Walker> still working on it
Apr 04 16:32:21 <Sleep_Walker> there are still some weird issues
Apr 04 16:37:03 <mekius> k
Apr 04 16:37:06 <mekius> aSoC?
Apr 04 16:37:35 <marex> audio system on chip
Apr 04 16:38:14 <mekius> ah :)
Apr 04 16:48:13 <mekius> which touchscreen is on the centro?
Apr 04 16:48:35 <mekius> or rather, which driver does it use :)
Apr 04 16:48:56 <mekius> I guess this ,config for the 680 should have the proper one actually
Apr 04 16:51:59 <Sleep_Walker> I hope so :b
Apr 04 16:52:05 <Sleep_Walker> because touchscreen works for me
Apr 04 16:52:10 <Sleep_Walker> (at least until suspend)
Apr 04 16:52:11 <mekius> :)
Apr 04 16:52:28 <mekius> had some issues with a different rootfs I was trying, I copied over my modules but touchscreen wouldn't work, it was weird
Apr 04 16:52:36 <mekius> so going back to the illume rootfs heh
Apr 04 16:53:32 <Sleep_Walker> illume seemed to be really useless :/
Apr 04 16:53:36 <Sleep_Walker> but nice! ;)(
Apr 04 16:53:42 <mekius> well it's not done yet :)
Apr 04 16:53:57 <mekius> just like E itself isn't quite done yet :)
Apr 04 16:54:11 <mekius> Mostly needs a lot of polish to make sure things fit on screen heh
Apr 04 16:57:12 <mekius> hmm, I may have forgotten to do make modules, oops
Apr 04 16:57:25 <mekius> but shouldn't have been so far out of date as to not load, but we'll see heh
Apr 04 16:58:38 <Sleep_Walker> it would be great to have OPIE for PXA27x palms Debian Armel repository
Apr 04 16:58:45 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: are you interested ? ;D
Apr 04 18:11:54 <flyback> just when I thought palm got their head out of their asses
Apr 04 18:11:56 <flyback> with the centro
Apr 04 18:12:03 <flyback> they pick howard stern as the spokesman
Apr 04 18:12:07 * flyback shakes his head
Apr 04 18:56:20 <flyback> http://sites.google.com/site/mnsclec/index <-- disgusting, call your congressman etc
Apr 04 20:11:25 * flyback bbl
Apr 04 20:56:31 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: Well I'm more of an E fan myself :)
Apr 04 20:56:46 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: I use E17 on my laptop so having it on my phone is just dreamy :)
Apr 04 20:57:09 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: I can understand
Apr 04 20:57:14 <Sleep_Walker> e17 is not bad
Apr 04 20:58:17 <mekius> /home/mekius/Misc/phone/linux-2.6-arm/scripts/Makefile.fwinst:45: target `/home/mekius/Misc/phone/illume_rootfs/lib/firmware/vicam/firmware.fw' doesn't match the target pattern
Apr 04 20:58:25 <mekius> I get a bunch of errors like that when I do modules_install
Apr 04 21:06:58 <mekius> any thoughts on why the firmware would be weird?
Apr 04 21:08:07 <mekius> hmm, 1 sec
Apr 04 21:13:31 <mekius> hmm, may have been the postfix I was setting on the kernel name
Apr 04 21:29:58 <mekius> raster: ping
Apr 04 21:34:49 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: ok, seems the screen going black is not X related :D
Apr 04 21:35:04 <Sleep_Walker> you could ask :b
Apr 04 21:35:14 <Sleep_Walker> btw. there is some PWM bug in arm-devel
Apr 04 21:35:19 <Sleep_Walker> working on fix
Apr 04 21:35:32 <Sleep_Walker> (I didn't cause that, only I'm affected)
Apr 04 21:35:58 <mekius> pulse width modulation??
Apr 04 21:36:08 <Sleep_Walker> yes
Apr 04 21:36:13 <mekius> what is that used for?
Apr 04 21:36:17 <Sleep_Walker> backlight
Apr 04 21:36:20 <mekius> ahhh
Apr 04 21:36:26 <mekius> hmm, that might be it heh
Apr 04 21:37:51 <mekius> hmm, why is there no logs in /var/log?
Apr 04 21:37:53 <mekius> hmm
Apr 04 21:37:55 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: if you use maximum value of brightness, your screen would be dark
Apr 04 21:38:08 <mekius> ah, well I usually keep mine fairly low
Apr 04 21:39:24 <mekius> this probably is probably a bit different though, just odd that it works for awhile and then finally just dies
Apr 04 21:40:27 <mekius> does the kernel create it's log in /var/log/messages or does syslog take care of making that?
Apr 04 21:42:30 <mekius> i'm guessing syslog since I have no logs :)
Apr 04 21:44:08 <mekius> heh, sometimes starting cocoboot just reboots my phone :P
Apr 04 21:49:21 <mekius> oh I think I see why the touchscreen wasn't working, it was never being calibrated with the other rootfs
Apr 04 21:49:42 <mekius> with the illume rootfs it always runs the calibration right away if it's not been done
Apr 04 22:00:39 <mekius> geez, I see about 100 controls in alsamixer :P
Apr 04 22:40:11 <enigme> |miska|: any luck with your T|X?
Apr 04 22:46:22 <marex> enigme, he's offline on jabber
Apr 04 22:47:11 <enigme> marex: oh, thanks
Apr 04 22:50:48 <enigme> marex: speaking of jabber, is there a good jabber client for opie?
Apr 04 22:53:33 <marex> qpe-gaim
Apr 04 22:56:38 <enigme> marex: cool -- do you know if OTR is supported?
Apr 04 22:56:51 <marex> OTR ?
Apr 04 22:57:07 <marex> it uses libgaim 1.5.0 ... google that
Apr 04 22:57:10 <flyback> marex
Apr 04 22:57:12 <enigme> off-the-record messaging (encryption) -- http://www.cypherpunks.ca/otr/
Apr 04 22:57:18 <flyback> has anything come of the usb code since we tested in nov?
Apr 04 22:57:22 <flyback> for pxa270
Apr 04 22:57:33 <enigme> it's a plugin for pidgin/adium
Apr 04 22:57:57 <marex> dunno ... it supports what libgaim 1.5.0 does
Apr 04 22:58:39 <enigme> alright, thanks
Apr 04 22:59:02 <enigme> how hard is it to get a GUI program working with opie without actually using X11?
Apr 04 22:59:25 <enigme> I assume it's more work than just cross-compiling the source like a commandline app would be
Apr 04 23:18:23 * flyback is going to setup a jtag programmer box before he croaks soon or loses what's left of his mind
Apr 04 23:24:06 * flyback continues to fight the urge to pass out
Apr 04 23:38:50 <marex> enigme, qpe-gaim is an opie app
Apr 04 23:38:55 <marex> also ... opie has some X11 support
Apr 04 23:39:22 <enigme> marex: I mean in the general case with some random non-opie application
Apr 04 23:39:32 <enigme> gpe seems to be better for that, but I don't know if it's any better than opie
Apr 04 23:39:38 * enigme thinks of, for example, web browsers
Apr 04 23:39:55 <marex> konqueror embedded is quite fine
Apr 04 23:40:57 <enigme> I haven't tried it since my t|x has no wifi support yet :) -- but how well does it work on large websites like, say, Slashdot?
Apr 04 23:41:01 <flyback> marex
Apr 04 23:41:11 <flyback> if it can handle a mispelled url without shitting itself
Apr 04 23:41:15 <flyback> > palm blazer
Apr 04 23:41:16 <flyback> :P
Apr 04 23:41:19 <enigme> blazer dies if you try to go to http://slashdot.org/
Apr 04 23:41:24 <flyback> yep
Apr 04 23:41:31 <flyback> blazer = more unstable than flyback
Apr 04 23:48:54 <raster> mekius: pong
Apr 04 23:50:16 <marex> enigme, dunno, I never tried, it works well with hackndev.com though ;)
Apr 04 23:50:38 <enigme> marex: works for me :D
Apr 04 23:50:55 <enigme> marex: does it compress pages to look smaller, or allow you to zoom in and out like iPhone Safari or Opera Mini?
Apr 04 23:51:42 <marex> http://www.basyskom.de/index.pl/konqe
Apr 04 23:51:44 <marex> you can zoom
Apr 04 23:52:59 <enigme> cool, thanks.  one other thing -- how fast is it?
Apr 04 23:53:34 <enigme> if you're on wifi, that is, so there are no bottlenecks there -- just device speed
Apr 04 23:58:16 <enigme> marex: do you know when |miska| might be around?
Apr 04 23:58:56 <marex> 2am here
Apr 04 23:58:59 <Sleep_Walker> tomorrow
Apr 04 23:59:29 <marex> laziness is very exhausting so expect him later tomorow
Apr 04 23:59:34 <enigme> sorry, I mean do you know what time he might be around?  is he around more in the morning or in the evening?
Apr 04 23:59:35 <marex> he needs to recharge himself
Apr 04 23:59:39 <enigme> alright
Apr 05 00:00:04 <marex> he might be awake by the lunchtime
Apr 05 00:00:14 <marex> (12 hrs from now)
Apr 05 00:01:45 <marex> Sleep_Walker, any progress with the Codec ?
Apr 05 00:03:13 <Sleep_Walker> I just arrived
Apr 05 00:07:12 <marex> mekius, dont you feel like taking your centro apart and making some photos ?
Apr 05 00:17:14 <Sleep_Walker> marex: I just don't understand why old driver works and the asoc one does not
Apr 05 00:17:39 <Sleep_Walker> it also time outs
Apr 05 00:17:49 <Sleep_Walker> or times out?
Apr 05 00:18:05 <marex> time-outs ;)
Apr 05 00:22:59 <mekius> marex: lol, photos of what exactly?
Apr 05 00:23:34 <mekius> marex: I don't plan on taking it back so not too worried about warranty, I love this phone heh
Apr 05 00:24:27 <marex> mekius, the PCB
Apr 05 00:24:38 <mekius> marex: what is that going to tell you?
Apr 05 00:24:43 <marex> the photos on FCC website are too low resolution
Apr 05 00:24:54 <marex> mekius, what chips does it contain ;)
Apr 05 00:25:38 <mekius> Noone has cracked open a Centro CDMA phone yet?
Apr 05 00:25:43 <mekius> Isn't this thing like a year old?
Apr 05 00:27:40 <mekius> I may be tempted, but not going to do it tonight
Apr 05 00:30:59 <marex> mekius, you dont have to if you find some pics on the net ;)
Apr 05 00:31:13 <marex> mekius, I googled quite a bit, but none were quality enough
Apr 05 00:31:44 <mekius> Ah
Apr 05 00:31:56 <mekius> Well I have a decent camera, I might be able to get a somewhat good shot
Apr 05 00:32:03 <mekius> It's just hard to get it to focus on the right things sometimes heh
Apr 05 00:33:44 <marex> doesnt it have "macro mode"
Apr 05 00:36:32 <mekius> might have something like that, I don't use it too much heh
Apr 05 00:36:39 <mekius> And I'm not expert photographer :P
Apr 05 00:37:48 <raster> mekisu is making phone-porn
Apr 05 00:37:53 <raster> taking off all its clothes
Apr 05 00:38:01 <raster> phone-pr0n!
Apr 05 00:38:28 <mekius> lol
Apr 05 00:38:48 <mekius> Well like I said, I might do it eventually, but probably not this weekend
Apr 05 00:38:54 <mekius> I don't want to mark up the seam heh
Apr 05 00:39:05 <mekius> I'm sure getting this thing apart will be hell
Apr 05 00:39:33 <marex> I wont touch Centro for the rest of this weekend anyway ... I need to study theory of automata
Apr 05 00:40:05 <mekius> automata?
Apr 05 00:40:24 <mekius> Ah, I see
Apr 05 00:40:35 <mekius> Sounds very abstract and confusing, have fun with that :P
Apr 05 00:42:18 <Sleep-Walker> automata is fun :)
Apr 05 00:44:36 <marex> yea ... automata is nice :)
Apr 05 00:46:51 <mekius> gotta love the information/diagrams on govt websites, they are generally shit heh
Apr 05 00:47:39 <mekius> Is Sleep_Walker off to bed?
Apr 05 00:48:01 <Sleep_Walker> still alive
Apr 05 00:48:14 <mekius> hehe
Apr 05 00:52:40 <mekius> raster: With illume rootfs if I just keep using it my screen never dies, but if I let it sit it will just stop working, is there some sort of auto-suspend being setup?
Apr 05 00:52:49 <mekius> just odd that it depends on my activity
Apr 05 00:55:08 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: If there is something causing it to suspend my screen issue might be the same that you've seen
Apr 05 00:55:14 <mekius> well suspend my device rather
Apr 05 00:55:44 <raster> mekius: hmm no - no auto-suspend
Apr 05 00:55:49 <mekius> I really need to get my own OE setup here so I can build my own with updated illume+e17 :)
Apr 05 00:55:55 <raster> well there is - technically
Apr 05 00:55:57 <raster> but it wont work
Apr 05 00:55:59 <mekius> raster: Anything that OE would be adding without you knowing?
Apr 05 00:56:04 <raster> as the service handling the suspend doesnt exist
Apr 05 00:56:08 <mekius> ah
Apr 05 00:56:10 <mekius> hmm
Apr 05 00:56:34 <Sleep_Walker> raster: will you create some new image?
Apr 05 00:56:45 <Sleep_Walker> (some bigger, with applications :)
Apr 05 00:56:45 <raster> Sleep_Walker: actually i did recently...
Apr 05 00:56:49 <raster> tho i'm not happy with it
Apr 05 00:56:57 <raster> and no - i didnt plan on including lots of apps
Apr 05 00:56:58 <mekius> raster: It's really hard to concentrate on GSOC when I have this new phone :P
Apr 05 00:57:03 <mekius> New toys are bad for me heh
Apr 05 00:57:05 <raster> they canbe installed
Apr 05 00:57:14 <raster> the illume image is mostly for me to test/work on e+illume
Apr 05 00:57:17 <raster> not really anything else
Apr 05 00:57:17 <mekius> How do you install extra apps btw?
Apr 05 00:57:22 <raster> i'm not trying to become a distro maintainer
Apr 05 00:57:39 <raster> mekius:  get ipk's and opkg install them
Apr 05 00:57:48 <mekius> ah ok
Apr 05 00:57:54 <mekius> or build my own packages :)
Apr 05 00:58:00 <raster> yes
Apr 05 00:58:17 <raster> my current images include gcc, autotools etc.
Apr 05 00:58:24 <raster> so u can build on the target too
Apr 05 00:58:39 <mekius> gotcha
Apr 05 00:58:42 <raster> but my image is more intended as a dev/debug image and something of an example to work from
Apr 05 00:58:52 <mekius> I would not build on my 300Mhz arm :P
Apr 05 00:58:55 <raster> ie if someon wants to do a real "usable" image with lots of apps
Apr 05 00:58:57 <raster> build off it
Apr 05 00:59:04 <mekius> I know :)
Apr 05 00:59:16 <mekius> which 'machine
Apr 05 00:59:31 <mekius> oh nvm, they have a 650 machine in OE don't they
Apr 05 01:00:58 <raster> yes
Apr 05 01:01:13 <raster> when i moved to angstrom it broke exquisite as the splash
Apr 05 01:01:17 <raster> so i need to fix that again
Apr 05 01:01:59 <mekius> Is there a getting started guide for OE?
Apr 05 01:02:14 <mekius> I installed bitbake and all the deps and such, but don't really know where to start heh
Apr 05 01:02:29 <mekius> yeah, they have their own splash so you'll probably have to hack that quite a bit
Apr 05 01:03:15 <mekius> angstrom by default doesn't seem to run any calibration on the first run either so my touchscreen is useless :P
Apr 05 01:03:34 <mekius> I used some online thingy to build an angstrom+e17 image
Apr 05 01:04:12 <raster> mekius:  theres a howto
Apr 05 01:04:15 <raster> gettign started
Apr 05 01:04:29 <raster> and yes
Apr 05 01:04:31 <mekius> hmm, can't seem to find it on their stupid wiki...
Apr 05 01:04:33 <raster> angstsom doesnt run it
Apr 05 01:04:43 <mekius> oh wait
Apr 05 01:04:44 <raster> ui have got calibration for palmt650 in my image
Apr 05 01:04:48 <raster> so its pre-calibrated
Apr 05 01:04:50 <mekius> nvm, found it now
Apr 05 01:04:59 <mekius> I guess it's harder to see things when I'm falling asleep heh
Apr 05 01:05:22 <mekius> yeah, it runs the xcalibrate or whatever on the first run, very convienent :)
Apr 05 01:05:32 <mekius> convenient*
Apr 05 01:05:57 <mekius> "IMPORTANT NOTES: this guide assumes that:
Apr 05 01:05:57 <mekius> the base directory of your Openembedded environment is /stuff/"
Apr 05 01:06:03 <mekius> what kind of silly assumption is that?
Apr 05 01:06:22 <raster> change /stuff/ to /wherever/you/put/it/
Apr 05 01:06:24 <raster> in the guid
Apr 05 01:06:33 <raster> oe is dependent on where it lives
Apr 05 01:06:36 <mekius> yeah I know
Apr 05 01:06:42 <mekius> just a funny directory to use as an example hhe
Apr 05 01:06:44 <mekius> heh*
Apr 05 01:06:48 <raster> as part of the build end it has to be able to write in absolute paths into linker scritps etc.
Apr 05 01:06:57 <mekius> Ah, I see
Apr 05 01:07:58 <raster> thats why its so hard to just provide a startup tarbakll u can untar anywhere and just use
Apr 05 01:08:59 <mekius> yeah
Apr 05 01:29:33 <mekius> sigh...more git fun...
Apr 05 01:34:17 * mekius twiddles thumbs
Apr 05 01:40:35 <mekius> raster: do you happen to have a local.conf that I could borrow? :)
Apr 05 01:40:47 <mekius> making my own now
Apr 05 01:41:19 <raster> mekius:  look in svn
Apr 05 01:41:20 <raster> :)
Apr 05 01:41:27 <mekius> oh ok
Apr 05 01:43:51 <mekius> what is jffs2?
Apr 05 01:44:05 <raster> a filesystem for flash chips
Apr 05 01:44:10 <mekius> ah
Apr 05 01:44:33 <raster> (ir raw flash - nand, not sd/cf. thats flash behind a ware levelling virtual block layer)
Apr 05 01:48:59 <mekius> raster: so do you recommend I use angstrom as my distro base or is openmoko better?
Apr 05 01:49:13 <mekius> I know what flash is :)
Apr 05 01:49:16 <raster> angstrom
Apr 05 01:49:20 <mekius> ok
Apr 05 01:49:34 <raster> did u use my local.conf ?
Apr 05 01:49:41 <mekius> so the oe stuff in our svn is just a local copy of what's in their git eh?
Apr 05 01:49:49 <mekius> I'm picking parts out of yours to make my own
Apr 05 01:49:53 <raster> aaah no
Apr 05 01:49:54 <raster> it isnt
Apr 05 01:49:58 <mekius> oh ok
Apr 05 01:50:05 <raster> its a svn copy of a small tree of stuff that sets up a oe build
Apr 05 01:50:09 <raster> scriptts to set it up
Apr 05 01:50:10 <raster> etc.
Apr 05 01:50:11 <raster> and use it
Apr 05 01:50:13 <raster> some config
Apr 05 01:50:14 <raster> etc.
Apr 05 01:50:18 <raster> and some extra .bb's
Apr 05 01:50:21 <mekius> oh I see
Apr 05 01:50:23 <raster> i havent properly updated it in a while
Apr 05 01:50:27 <raster> my local tree has moved on
Apr 05 01:50:28 <mekius> so it does the git checkout and such?
Apr 05 01:50:32 <raster> yup
Apr 05 01:50:34 <mekius> gotcha
Apr 05 01:50:45 <raster> and it only works in ~/oe
Apr 05 01:50:51 <raster> in theory it should work anywhere
Apr 05 01:50:54 <mekius> I'll keep an eye on it for when you update it :)
Apr 05 01:50:55 <raster> but it simply didne
Apr 05 01:50:57 <raster> didnt
Apr 05 01:51:01 <raster> somehtng in oe broke that
Apr 05 01:51:05 <mekius> ah
Apr 05 01:59:46 <mekius> if I do BBFILES = "/stuff/openembedded/recipes/*/*.bb" it's going to build everything isn't it?
Apr 05 02:03:48 <marex> damn ... this sucks
Apr 05 02:03:59 <raster> well everything required for the target
Apr 05 02:04:02 <marex> one of the students I teach is probably cheating with homework
Apr 05 02:04:03 <raster> ie tracing back dependencies
Apr 05 02:04:24 <raster> marex: cutthem up and feed them to the dogs.
Apr 05 02:04:29 <raster> as a lesson for others
Apr 05 02:04:47 <marex> we still havent done "sed" at all, but I got hw with quite some advanced pieces of sed script
Apr 05 02:05:00 <mekius> raster: ah ok, but will this include things like xchat/pidgin/etc?
Apr 05 02:05:04 <marex> Im really suspicious there
Apr 05 02:05:27 <marex> raster, well ... hell awaits that student for doing so ;)
Apr 05 02:05:32 <mekius> marex: Does he seem like he knows it already?
Apr 05 02:05:44 <raster> mekius: no
Apr 05 02:05:51 <mekius> I mean if he seems like an idiot, then probably cheating :P
Apr 05 02:05:52 <raster> well that depends actually.
Apr 05 02:05:54 <raster> which image?
Apr 05 02:06:01 <marex> we'll be doing "sed" next week so I will make sure to do "sed" properly
Apr 05 02:06:03 <marex> very properly
Apr 05 02:06:21 <mekius> raster: distor?
Apr 05 02:06:22 <marex> and then see how they really can use it
Apr 05 02:06:24 <mekius> distro*
Apr 05 02:07:33 <marex> mekius, nah ... looks like that student has still some way to go in UNIX even without sed
Apr 05 02:08:02 <marex> it simply doesnt look like it was that students' work at all
Apr 05 02:08:42 <mekius> marex: gotcha
Apr 05 02:09:11 <mekius> It's easy to find recipes for a lot of things
Apr 05 02:09:30 <mekius> raster: I'm using angstrom-2008.1 distro with machine palmt680
Apr 05 02:11:13 <mekius> raster: oooh I see
Apr 05 02:11:16 <mekius> you build 'images'
Apr 05 02:11:27 <mekius> raster: I hadn't gotten to that part of the guide yet hehe :)
Apr 05 02:13:11 <mekius> raster: is there an illume-image in their git?
Apr 05 02:13:46 <marex> mekius, well ... sed-hell is getting ready ;)
Apr 05 02:14:31 <mekius> :)
Apr 05 02:17:35 <marex> http://sed.sourceforge.net/local/games/ wow :)
Apr 05 02:17:48 <mekius> haha
Apr 05 02:17:56 <marex> some new stuff there
Apr 05 02:18:07 <marex> (puzzle.sed)
Apr 05 02:19:35 <raster> mekius: distro is falvor of packaging
Apr 05 02:19:46 <raster> image is the set of packages installed by default
Apr 05 02:19:47 <mekius> yeah I figured out what you were talking about
Apr 05 02:19:54 <mekius> BBFILES just gives it the list of available
Apr 05 02:20:02 <mekius> you build the packages later I see
Apr 05 02:20:12 <raster> and there is an illume-image
Apr 05 02:20:15 <mekius> and can use images as meta-packages of sorts
Apr 05 02:20:15 <raster> that is the one i maintain
Apr 05 02:20:17 <mekius> k
Apr 05 02:20:18 <marex> mekius, you can make .bb file with dependencies you want ;)
Apr 05 02:20:25 <raster> its basically for demoing e/illume
Apr 05 02:20:27 <raster> and for me to do dev
Apr 05 02:20:31 <mekius> I apparently never installed bitbake so waiting for berlios to give me the files :/
Apr 05 02:20:41 <mekius> marex: I know :)
Apr 05 02:20:58 <mekius> for now just want to get a basic illume image like rasters and then go from there :)
Apr 05 02:21:33 * raster needs to update things
Apr 05 02:21:55 <mekius> :)
Apr 05 02:22:13 <mekius> the bb files for efl/e17 will pull from svn right?
Apr 05 02:22:30 <mekius> grr, why is it not connecting to berlios to download this damn file
Apr 05 02:22:32 <mekius> weak
Apr 05 02:22:56 <mekius> I'm about to pull it from svn and build it myself or at the very least make my own package :/
Apr 05 02:23:39 <mekius> sigh..stupid berlios
Apr 05 02:25:10 <marex> gnight
Apr 05 02:25:22 <mekius> night
Apr 05 02:30:01 <mekius> gah dammit, now I need a newer bitbake :P
Apr 05 02:31:48 <mekius> /usr/lib/python2.6/site-packages/bb/COW.py:29: DeprecationWarning: the sets module is deprecated
Apr 05 02:31:48 <mekius>   import types, sets
Apr 05 02:31:53 <mekius> raster: your image is apparently out of date heh
Apr 05 02:32:22 <mekius> ok nvm
Apr 05 02:32:39 <mekius> was me not having some utilities that led to it not build, still getting that error though
Apr 05 02:36:01 <mekius> hmm, why did it modify my TARGET_OS setting?
Apr 05 02:36:16 <mekius> does the illume-image have anything to do with that or could it be the machine I selected?
Apr 05 02:44:20 <mekius> raster: sigh, does it really reparse all the bb files every time I do a new build?
Apr 05 02:44:42 <mekius> Cause I'm trying to test and this is going to piss me off quick heh
Apr 05 02:56:55 <mekius> sigh...it's not seeing my preferred kernel
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