**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Mon Apr 06 02:59:58 2009
Apr 06 06:52:13 <emfox> Sleep-Walker: I've used your new kernel
Apr 06 06:53:30 <emfox> Sleep-Walker: the boot hangs problem has been fixed
Apr 06 07:03:56 <tuna`> hi
Apr 06 07:05:06 <emfox> tuna`: hello
Apr 06 07:07:21 <tuna`> has someone succeeded to get PalmTX working on a bluetooth PAN? (i.e. palmtx working as PANU, connected to a PAN master. To get a network connection)
Apr 06 07:08:37 <fdv_> where I can get this kernel?
Apr 06 07:08:52 <fdv_> with bluetooth
Apr 06 07:09:33 <tuna`> fdv_: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/ this one already handles bt
Apr 06 07:11:30 <tuna`> it embeds bluez v3.30 (unfortunately not with old daemons support, I mean: there is no more pand in it)
Apr 06 07:12:29 <fdv_> this is old kernels without bluetooth
Apr 06 07:12:32 <fdv_> I have it
Apr 06 07:13:48 <tuna`> fdv_: ? it does have bluetooth. I can detect the bt device while scanning from my desktop.
Apr 06 07:14:10 <fdv_> hmm...
Apr 06 07:14:49 <tuna`> actually, when I change setting with hciconfig on console I can see the changes applied and so on. So it works
Apr 06 07:15:22 <tuna`> fdv_: could it be that the bt modules are not loaded on your device? check dmesg on console
Apr 06 07:15:26 <fdv_> http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/testing/kernel/tx-hackndev-hires-kernel.tgz  - this?
Apr 06 07:16:21 <tuna`> no, I use this one: http://atrey.karlin.mff.cuni.cz/~miska/kernels/tx-hires-kernel.tgz
Apr 06 07:16:52 <tuna`> the last testing kernel I tried was not able to wake up from an agenda alarm. Pretty useless to use the agenda then ;)
Apr 06 07:18:28 <Sleep-Walker> emfox: hi
Apr 06 07:18:35 <Sleep-Walker> emfox: sw2 is not much new
Apr 06 07:18:39 <Sleep-Walker> uploading sw3
Apr 06 07:18:57 <Sleep-Walker> cumulative.patch is updated
Apr 06 07:19:28 <Sleep-Walker> http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/cumulative.patch
Apr 06 07:20:34 <Sleep-Walker> emfox: added OHCI support (untested) - so bluetooth should also work - untested, cleaned IrDA (untested), added SD_POWER
Apr 06 07:21:29 <emfox`> Sleep-Walker: oh, I'll down it
Apr 06 07:21:53 <Sleep-Walker> added some GPIOs regarding to PGSR registers and it's LPM values
Apr 06 07:22:00 <emfox`> Sleep-Walker: sometimes when I plug the usb cable the g_ether is not enable
Apr 06 07:22:11 <emfox`> Sleep-Walker: and other time it's ok, 50:50
Apr 06 07:22:26 <emfox`> Sleep-Walker: does sw3 solved this problem?
Apr 06 07:22:49 <Sleep-Walker> emfox`: well, I think it's problem in g_ether, not in machine dependant code
Apr 06 07:22:53 <Sleep-Walker> I'll check
Apr 06 07:23:21 <Sleep-Walker> check please OHCI, bluetooth, IrDA
Apr 06 07:24:17 <emfox`> Sleep-Walker: I will, just test them via bluez-tools. is that right?
Apr 06 07:24:48 <Sleep-Walker> emfox`: well, 1] enable it through /sys
Apr 06 07:24:58 <Sleep-Walker> 2] you should see it in lsusb now
Apr 06 07:25:09 <Sleep-Walker> hciconfig hci0 up
Apr 06 07:25:17 <Sleep-Walker> hciconfig hci0 piscan
Apr 06 07:25:24 <Sleep-Walker> hcitool scan
Apr 06 07:25:46 <Sleep-Walker> check for some other device
Apr 06 07:26:23 <Sleep-Walker> bluetooth is attached to USB, if it works, OHCI works
Apr 06 07:26:42 <Sleep-Walker> IrDA must be tested with ir-utils :b
Apr 06 07:29:46 <emfox`> ok, remember them
Apr 06 07:35:23 <emfox> Sleep-Walker: have you finished uploading sw3?
Apr 06 07:35:30 <Sleep-Walker> emfox: yes
Apr 06 07:36:13 <emfox> Sleep-Walker:I can't find it
Apr 06 07:36:32 <Sleep-Walker> emfox: it's there
Apr 06 07:36:38 <Sleep-Walker> I'll update web pages
Apr 06 07:37:00 <emfox> Sleep-Walker: grad to hear that :)
Apr 06 07:37:15 <emfox> Sleep-Walker: I can't wait to try that
Apr 06 07:39:39 <Sleep-Walker> http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/release/T680/linux-2.6-arm/partition/3/
Apr 06 07:40:12 <Sleep-Walker> if it will work better than 1 or 2, please tell me
Apr 06 07:41:03 <emfox> Sleep-Walker: surely I will
Apr 06 08:22:27 <Sleep-Walker> bt works :)
Apr 06 08:28:23 <Sleep-Walker> irda seems to work too
Apr 06 09:20:16 <tuna`> no one succeded to get palm tx on a bluetooth PAN so?
Apr 06 10:24:46 <tuna`> why is Linux on PalmTX limited to 32mb of ram when the device owns 256mb?
Apr 06 10:40:39 <WyrM> tuna`: probably because atag_mem was not passed correctly by the bootloader, or if atag_mem is not being used the cmdline mem= is wrong. :)
Apr 06 10:40:47 <WyrM> just a guess.
Apr 06 10:50:19 <tuna`> WyrM: oh? have used mem= parameter and indeed does not work (put 64M bbut it freezes then)
Apr 06 10:51:05 <WyrM> tuna`: I don't know the memory layout on palmtx.
Apr 06 10:51:16 <WyrM> so I can't really help you. :)
Apr 06 10:51:56 <WyrM> my device has 48mb of ram, one chip of 32mb at 0xa0000000 and another one of 16mb at oxac000000
Apr 06 10:52:18 <WyrM> it works with both atag_mem and mem= on the cmdline.
Apr 06 10:52:28 <tuna`> interesting
Apr 06 10:54:05 <WyrM> I think you will need a similar setup to get all the 256mb working.
Apr 06 10:54:12 <WyrM> do you know where its mapped?
Apr 06 10:56:17 <tuna`> no, is there a possibilyt to get such info via linux booted on it?
Apr 06 10:59:17 <WyrM> if linux doesn't know about memory then it can't tell you ;)
Apr 06 11:00:06 <tuna`> true, on pc bios gives it but here on palm tx I guess it is different
Apr 06 11:00:15 <WyrM> I think that google may answer this.
Apr 06 11:00:38 <Sleep-Walker> tuna`: try to discuss it with Marex
Apr 06 11:00:54 <Sleep-Walker> maybe coco behaves badly
Apr 06 11:01:25 <WyrM> acording to handhelds.org wiki, palmtx has only 32mb of ram..
Apr 06 11:02:00 <Sleep-Walker> maybe some special HW upgrade? :)
Apr 06 11:02:14 <Sleep-Walker> or - more probably
Apr 06 11:02:25 <Sleep-Walker> tuna` also count it's flash
Apr 06 11:02:41 <Sleep-Walker> there is no flash driver yet so far I know
Apr 06 11:02:55 <WyrM> yeah.
Apr 06 11:03:05 <WyrM> I think tuna` is mixing ram and flash. :)
Apr 06 11:03:19 <tuna`> oh oh yeah :/
Apr 06 11:03:25 <tuna`> true
Apr 06 11:03:26 <WyrM> but I also found some sites claiming that tx has 128mb ram + 128mb flash.
Apr 06 11:04:04 <tuna`> actually, even official web site is pretty fuzzy about that. they just tald about "memory" and nothing else.
Apr 06 11:04:09 <WyrM> Sleep-Walker: are you a palm linux developer too?
Apr 06 11:04:36 <WyrM> Sleep-Walker: do you know if any pxa27x palms can wakeup with pxa27x_keypad keys?
Apr 06 11:04:37 <Sleep-Walker> well, yes
Apr 06 11:04:40 <WyrM> or only gpio?
Apr 06 11:04:52 <Sleep-Walker> it should be possible
Apr 06 11:05:02 <Sleep-Walker> keypad keys are still only GPIOs
Apr 06 11:05:10 <Sleep-Walker> so try to play with pin settings
Apr 06 11:05:16 <WyrM> not really :)
Apr 06 11:05:24 <WyrM> the keypad driver is a matrix keypad.
Apr 06 11:05:32 <Sleep-Walker> WyrM: isn't is matrix of GPIOs?
Apr 06 11:05:44 <WyrM> and it uses PKWR register to set it as wake up source.
Apr 06 11:05:50 <WyrM> not like the other gpios..
Apr 06 11:05:54 <Sleep-Walker> I know
Apr 06 11:06:11 <WyrM> I can set wake up sources on gpio pins, it works.
Apr 06 11:06:23 <WyrM> but not with PKWR :(
Apr 06 11:06:23 <Sleep-Walker> I'm not sure if this is handled well in keypad driver
Apr 06 11:06:30 <WyrM> the code seems correct..
Apr 06 11:06:38 <Sleep-Walker> WyrM: what about setting it by hand in machine init function?
Apr 06 11:06:39 <WyrM> PKWR is set after all..
Apr 06 11:06:45 <WyrM> but it still doesn't work.
Apr 06 11:06:48 <tuna`> I found more sites talking about 128Mb of RAM + 128Mb of ROM installed about TX.
Apr 06 11:07:15 <Sleep-Walker> WyrM: have you found some switch for that in PXA27x documentation?
Apr 06 11:07:32 <Sleep-Walker> it probably needs to be enabled somewhere
Apr 06 11:07:53 <WyrM> Sleep-Walker: the default is wake up enabled..
Apr 06 11:08:18 <Sleep-Walker> WyrM: don't rely on defualt then
Apr 06 11:08:39 <WyrM> I traced the code, in the end it goes to keypad_set_wake() on mfp-pxa2xx.c
Apr 06 11:08:53 <WyrM> which is the function that sets PKWR.
Apr 06 11:09:12 <WyrM> it is setting PKWR here, according to the documentation it should be working..
Apr 06 11:10:04 <WyrM> I added a printk, and it is setting pkwr as it should.. but still no wake up. :(
Apr 06 11:11:25 <Sleep-Walker> I can have a look, but right now I at work
Apr 06 11:12:06 <WyrM> ok!
Apr 06 11:12:36 <WyrM> If you manage to get wakeup on pxa2xx-keypad, mail me at drwyrm.gmail.com.
Apr 06 11:13:16 <Sleep-Walker> WyrM: I'll check docs and, I don't know if I have PDA to try
Apr 06 11:13:28 <Sleep-Walker> what time it is in Brazill?
Apr 06 11:13:37 <Sleep-Walker> Brazil, sorry
Apr 06 11:13:45 <WyrM> 8:12 am :)
Apr 06 11:14:06 <Sleep-Walker> fine, so in 7 hours I'll hopefully get to it
Apr 06 11:14:15 <WyrM> ok, thanks!
Apr 06 11:14:21 <Sleep-Walker> (it would be 20 here)
Apr 06 11:14:33 <WyrM> I found some references on google that somehow its broken on hardware..
Apr 06 11:14:58 <WyrM> let me point you some weird stuff about pkwr, just a min.
Apr 06 11:15:59 <WyrM> http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.ports.arm.kernel/42172 (non-sense)
Apr 06 11:16:50 <WyrM> https://summersoft.fay.ar.us/repos/dwall/trunk/linux/arch/arm/mach-pxa/mainstone.c
Apr 06 11:16:50 <WyrM> /*	Need read PKWR back after set it.	*/  (non-sense)
Apr 06 11:17:24 <WyrM> both references shows "undocumented behaviour".
Apr 06 11:17:41 <Sleep-Walker> hmmm
Apr 06 11:42:17 <Sleep-Walker> WyrM: btw. which device are you interested in?
Apr 06 11:42:34 <WyrM> motorola ezx phones.
Apr 06 11:42:50 <Sleep-Walker> ah, right
Apr 06 11:42:59 <Sleep-Walker> yeah, I remember you!
Apr 06 11:43:10 <Sleep-Walker> you're the bcm2035_uart guy :)
Apr 06 11:43:16 <WyrM> yeah :)
Apr 06 11:47:44 <Sleep_Walker> WyrM: btw. with pxa2xx-keypad you meant probably pxa27x_keypad, right?
Apr 06 11:49:27 <WyrM> yes.
Apr 06 11:57:34 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: hello
Apr 06 11:57:44 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: hi
Apr 06 11:57:56 <Sleep_Walker> I tested bluetooth and IrDA - working
Apr 06 11:58:03 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: I'm under linux on my treo
Apr 06 11:58:24 <emfox> I've tested bluetooth, it works
Apr 06 11:58:34 <Sleep_Walker> congratz :)
Apr 06 11:59:13 <emfox> gprs is a little slow than in PalmOS -- hope it's just my wrong feeling
Apr 06 11:59:31 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: is it in demux mode?
Apr 06 11:59:36 <Sleep_Walker> can you call while online?
Apr 06 12:07:07 <emfox> don't know. I haven't tried
Apr 06 12:07:08 <emfox> no, not yet in demux mode
Apr 06 12:07:08 <emfox> I haven't found a working gsm-muxd yet
Apr 06 12:07:08 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: can you recommend a console-based irc client for me?
Apr 06 12:07:48 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: I use irssi in console
Apr 06 12:11:05 <WyrM> marex: hi. :)
Apr 06 12:11:14 <emfox> my god ...   rootfs   537M  509M  1.3M 100% /
Apr 06 12:13:25 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: :b
Apr 06 12:13:36 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: hm, I should install debian too
Apr 06 12:14:29 <emfox> it's too easy to install and try new things
Apr 06 12:15:18 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: I'm maybe deviant, but I like OPIE, Qtopia and it's not in debian - at least I haven't found it...
Apr 06 12:15:22 <emfox> so I often forgot to remove them
Apr 06 12:15:32 <marex> WyrM, hi, long time no see
Apr 06 12:15:42 <WyrM> hi.
Apr 06 12:15:59 <WyrM> im here to anoy you a little :)
Apr 06 12:16:15 <WyrM> marex: can you wakeup using pxa27x_keypad keys?
Apr 06 12:16:22 <marex> yup
Apr 06 12:16:38 <WyrM> here, it sets PKWR just fine, but I can't wake up with any key.
Apr 06 12:16:44 <WyrM> only with gpio_keys.
Apr 06 12:16:51 <marex> humm
Apr 06 12:16:51 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: yes, currently there's only GPE in debian
Apr 06 12:17:06 <Sleep_Walker> yes, and that sucks :/
Apr 06 12:17:36 <Sleep_Walker> GPE is in common debian repository?
Apr 06 12:17:58 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: btw. you build your own base system with debootstrap or used Alex's one?
Apr 06 12:18:17 <emfox> I'm trying freesmartphone.org these days, it's ui seems good
Apr 06 12:19:10 <Sleep_Walker> ok
Apr 06 12:19:15 <Sleep_Walker> I'll try then
Apr 06 12:19:27 <emfox> I use Alex's, and did a apt-get dist-upgrade
Apr 06 12:19:28 <emfox> after change sources.list from lenny to sid
Apr 06 12:20:08 <emfox> running a 'real' linux dist, I mean the one behave just the same on a PC, feels very good
Apr 06 12:20:48 <Sleep_Walker> I tried that debian and GPE, but it wasn't 1] nice 2] fast 3] comfortably usable
Apr 06 12:23:14 <emfox> hmmm... GPE is not nice in default, I admit.
Apr 06 12:23:22 <WyrM> marex: do you have any idea?
Apr 06 12:23:51 <WyrM> I added a printk to mfp-pxa2xx.c set_keypad_wake, its is called and sets PKWR as expected..
Apr 06 12:23:52 <marex> is your MFP configuration correct ?
Apr 06 12:24:25 <marex> the power levels on those keypad GPIOs might not be preserved
Apr 06 12:24:51 <marex> http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/ycmiao/pxa-linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=81854f82c5c1a203b2f5c94f6aa2ed8b8e19f025
Apr 06 12:24:55 <WyrM> keypad works, and PKWR is set as I expected. (on pins with WAKEUP_ON_LEVEL_HIGH)
Apr 06 12:24:56 <marex> see changes in palmld.c
Apr 06 12:25:21 <marex> do you also have MKINs and DKINs as WAKEUP_ON_LEVEL_HIGH ?
Apr 06 12:25:33 <WyrM> yes
Apr 06 12:26:15 <marex> well you might have power levels on MKOUTs and DKOUTs not preserved during suspend
Apr 06 12:26:19 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: do we have anyone who's working on UI? or userspace the connecting kernel to ui?
Apr 06 12:26:37 <marex> emfox, nah ... if you feel like working on GUI, go ahead
Apr 06 12:27:06 <WyrM> marex: and how do I preserve then?
Apr 06 12:27:12 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: noone from H&D works on GUI
Apr 06 12:27:19 <WyrM> setting it for "manual scan" ? :)
Apr 06 12:27:32 <marex> WyrM, lemme see the manual for exact register
Apr 06 12:28:07 <WyrM> marex: do you have any change to pxa27x_keypad?
Apr 06 12:28:11 <emfox> marex: I just wonder if there's somebody, so I can work with them together
Apr 06 12:28:23 <marex> WyrM, nah
Apr 06 12:28:27 <WyrM> or its another register to preserve the power levels of the out pins?
Apr 06 12:28:28 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: you're first :b
Apr 06 12:28:37 <marex> WyrM, there was something like that
Apr 06 12:28:44 <emfox> OK. So the most difficult part is to choose which project to participate
Apr 06 12:28:49 <emfox> :)
Apr 06 12:29:05 <marex> WyrM, try manually setting PGSR before going to sleep
Apr 06 12:29:25 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: do all the necessary work and we will then choose :)
Apr 06 12:29:42 <WyrM> marex: instead of the KOUT alternate functions?
Apr 06 12:29:53 <marex> KOUT ?
Apr 06 12:29:58 <emfox> now we have gpe, qpe, opie, openmoko, freesmartphone.org, blabla ... to choose
Apr 06 12:29:58 <Sleep_Walker> MKOUT
Apr 06 12:30:03 <WyrM> MK/DK
Apr 06 12:30:34 <marex> WyrM, it doesnt touch anything about altfn
Apr 06 12:30:45 <marex> it just preserves their state during zzz
Apr 06 12:31:06 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: I was also thinking about ncurses based phone application :)
Apr 06 12:31:13 <marex> if they were high, they'll be high during sleep as well (allowing you to detect edge) resulting into wakeup
Apr 06 12:31:54 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: but if I want to turn all these "echo 1 > /sys/*" blobs into UI, I'd choose one first
Apr 06 12:32:10 <marex> Sleep_Walker, what about 0verkill engine based phone app ? you can just run to a phone and use it to call ;D
Apr 06 12:32:22 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: if you have better idea how to do that, give me a hint
Apr 06 12:32:37 <Sleep_Walker> marex: not bad idea
Apr 06 12:32:51 <Sleep_Walker> and shooting the phone for refusing :)
Apr 06 12:32:57 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: the idea is very good... all the problem is I should to learn ncurses programming
Apr 06 12:33:25 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: I think that bash and dialog can cover it ;)
Apr 06 12:34:03 <WyrM> marex: are you sure? I tought that MKOUT was an altfn, and once set I can control the pin level on KPC_MS<n>
Apr 06 12:34:46 <marex> WyrM, well it's still a GPIO
Apr 06 12:35:15 <marex> WyrM, give it a shot ;)
Apr 06 12:42:32 <WyrM> I will! :)
Apr 06 12:48:29 <marex> WyrM, and dont shoot yourself ;D
Apr 06 12:49:27 <marex> emfox, Sleep_Walker, where's that debian image you use?
Apr 06 12:49:40 <Sleep_Walker> marex: check bootpacks page ;D
Apr 06 12:49:53 <Sleep_Walker> Alex's image for treo650
Apr 06 13:29:59 <marex> @last --help
Apr 06 13:30:00 <Belldandy> marex: (last [--{from,in,on,with,without,regexp} <value>] [--nolimit]) -- Returns the last message matching the given criteria. --from requires a nick from whom the message came; --in requires a channel the message was sent to; --on requires a network the message was sent on; --with requires some string that had to be in the message; --regexp requires a regular expression the message must match; --nolimit (1 more message)
Apr 06 13:30:06 <marex> @last --with Cyril
Apr 06 13:30:41 <marex> Sleep_Walker, jak ze se ten metan jmenoval ?
Apr 06 15:05:42 <marex> http://benheck.com/04-05-2009/commodore-64-original-hardware-laptop wow
Apr 06 15:17:13 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: it seems sd-power is not work in sw3 either
Apr 06 15:17:42 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: well, it really seems that SD_POWER is defined right
Apr 06 15:18:00 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: so I assume the problem is elsewhere
Apr 06 15:18:28 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: I just did a suspend, and after resume , the sd card became unaccessable
Apr 06 15:18:53 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: I'll try to disable one thing
Apr 06 15:19:09 <emfox> the system try to access beyond the end of disk,
Apr 06 15:19:29 <emfox> then remount it readonly
Apr 06 15:20:14 <Sleep_Walker> I'll create more verbose version
Apr 06 15:21:07 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: could we inspect the battary power now?
Apr 06 15:21:36 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: driver is registred, only values are weird
Apr 06 15:21:40 <Sleep_Walker> I'm at work now :/
Apr 06 15:21:41 <emfox> I mean, the percentage of power
Apr 06 15:21:48 <Sleep_Walker> I know
Apr 06 15:21:55 <Sleep_Walker> wm97xx-battery driver
Apr 06 15:22:50 <emfox> I think it's even more important for my daily use
Apr 06 15:23:11 <mekius> Ah ok, others are getting no battery either :D
Apr 06 15:23:18 <emfox> I may change battary when neccesary
Apr 06 15:23:20 <mekius> Thought that might just be me heh
Apr 06 15:26:05 <emfox> all my data on the SD card lost, after I just backup all them, 2 minutes before :)
Apr 06 15:26:21 <mekius> doh
Apr 06 15:26:31 <emfox> the suspend is dangerous
Apr 06 15:26:42 <Sleep_Walker> I'd rather not use suspend :)
Apr 06 15:26:48 <mekius> :D
Apr 06 15:27:30 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: now I realized that too
Apr 06 15:27:48 <Sleep_Walker> I currently use suspend only for testing suspend :b
Apr 06 15:28:08 <emfox> the screen auto-off is enough for power-saving
Apr 06 15:29:20 <emfox> you may not know, after sw2 kernel, the screen auto-off just works
Apr 06 15:37:03 <mekius> what does he mean by after sw2 kernel the screen auto-off just works?
Apr 06 15:46:49 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: that means that if you are in console and wait, screen goes off
Apr 06 15:47:27 <Sleep_Walker> sw2 - Sleep_Walker's build #2
Apr 06 15:48:06 <Sleep_Walker> (that should be me :b )
Apr 06 16:25:45 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: Ah, maybe that's what is causing my screen to die then :P
Apr 06 16:25:54 <mekius> What would have fixed that?
Apr 06 16:26:23 <Sleep_Walker> it should go back with touching any button
Apr 06 16:30:31 <mekius> well when I touch a button the screen just shows corruption :D
Apr 06 16:30:49 <mekius> also the keyboard lights never turn off, is that separate circuitry?
Apr 06 16:35:00 <Sleep_Walker> keyboard lights are just weird
Apr 06 16:35:12 <mekius> haha
Apr 06 16:35:33 <Sleep_Walker> it looks like PWM, but no other PWM than PWM0 is used
Apr 06 16:36:22 <mekius> soft pwm?
Apr 06 16:36:32 <Sleep_Walker> maybe
Apr 06 16:36:48 <mekius> would think they would just use the same signal as the lcd backlight, weird
Apr 06 16:36:53 <mekius> silly guys :P
Apr 06 16:37:28 <Sleep_Walker> I can now only switch on/off
Apr 06 16:39:38 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: you can see it somewhere in header
Apr 06 16:39:56 <Sleep_Walker> #define GPIO_NR_TREO680_KEYB_BL	24
Apr 06 16:40:01 <mekius> ah
Apr 06 16:40:03 <Sleep_Walker> so 24
Apr 06 16:40:21 <mekius> yeah, must be just a simple transitor or something I'm sure
Apr 06 16:40:35 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: who knows
Apr 06 16:40:36 <mekius> controlling the brightness of keys isn't too important :)
Apr 06 16:40:46 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: if you'll find out - tell me
Apr 06 16:41:04 <mekius> :)
Apr 06 17:17:58 <Sleep_Walker> marex: well, I've got openSUSE 11.1 on notebook and Debian Lenny in Treo - now I've got proof that openSUSE is much more faster thatn Debian!
Apr 06 17:18:45 <enigme> Sleep_Walker: haha, nice
Apr 06 17:18:48 <marex> now get openSuSE on your treo ;D
Apr 06 17:19:29 <Sleep_Walker> marex: I'll install qemu and run it in virtual machine
Apr 06 17:19:45 <Sleep_Walker> aptitude is SO SLOW
Apr 06 17:20:18 <marex> aptitude sucks in the first place
Apr 06 17:20:24 <Sleep_Walker> I'd rather remove MMC debugging :b
Apr 06 17:21:44 <Sleep_Walker> marex: do you know how to configure network over bluetooth? (without PPP/DUN)
Apr 06 17:22:02 <marex> bnep ?
Apr 06 17:22:07 <Sleep_Walker> yes
Apr 06 17:24:23 <marex> urhmmm .... well there was a manpage for it or something
Apr 06 17:24:39 <Sleep_Walker> marex: thank you!
Apr 06 17:24:42 <Sleep_Walker> you saved me
Apr 06 17:24:47 <Sleep_Walker> man page!
Apr 06 17:24:52 <Sleep_Walker> yes!
Apr 06 17:36:34 <marex> hm ... having 2000dpi laser mouse and G15 logitech keyboard connected to your palm feels really good :)
Apr 06 17:36:41 <marex> *Palm
Apr 06 17:36:56 <Sleep_Walker> marex: mainly if you use LifeDrive ;D
Apr 06 17:39:41 <mekius> marex: usb host?
Apr 06 17:39:50 <marex> yea, I gave it a go
Apr 06 17:39:56 <mekius> cool
Apr 06 17:40:04 <Sleep_Walker> marex: OTG? ;D
Apr 06 17:40:08 <mekius> I had heard mention the 680 has one of these?  Same for centro?
Apr 06 17:40:08 <marex> I used miska's patch
Apr 06 17:40:23 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: most probably yes
Apr 06 17:40:24 <marex> Sleep_Walker, nah ... I need some knowledge to get this working in openBSD
Apr 06 17:40:46 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: Is there some schematics for how to wire the usb?
Apr 06 17:41:00 <mekius> I would love to try it out :D
Apr 06 17:41:20 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: use hotsync cable --> gender changer --> powered hub
Apr 06 17:41:37 <Sleep_Walker> but it's not enabled by default
Apr 06 17:41:55 <mekius> oh, that simple eh?
Apr 06 17:42:00 <Sleep_Walker> yup
Apr 06 17:42:05 <mekius> odd that they use the same pins for host and slave heh
Apr 06 17:42:13 <marex> you need duh patch
Apr 06 17:42:15 <Sleep_Walker> that is that OTG
Apr 06 17:42:18 <mekius> the powered hub is necessary?
Apr 06 17:42:22 <Sleep_Walker> yes
Apr 06 17:42:28 <Sleep_Walker> marex: duh?
Apr 06 17:42:30 <mekius> marex: where is duh patch? :D
Apr 06 17:42:48 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: check Alex's hhtinker.blogspot.com
Apr 06 17:42:50 <mekius> ok, will see if I can borrow a powered up from work :)
Apr 06 17:43:00 <Sleep_Walker> he has described that
Apr 06 17:43:08 <mekius> powered hub*
Apr 06 17:43:08 <Sleep_Walker> it's for Treo650, but it's similar
Apr 06 17:44:04 <marex> diff --git a/drivers/usb/host/ohci-pxa27x.c b/drivers/usb/host/ohci-pxa27x.c
Apr 06 17:44:04 <marex> index e44dc2c..58701b7 100644
Apr 06 17:44:04 <marex> --- a/drivers/usb/host/ohci-pxa27x.c
Apr 06 17:44:04 <marex> +++ b/drivers/usb/host/ohci-pxa27x.c
Apr 06 17:44:04 <marex> @@ -227,6 +227,12 @@ static int pxa27x_start_hc(struct pxa27x_ohci *ohci, struct device *dev)
Apr 06 17:44:05 <marex>         if (inf->init)
Apr 06 17:44:07 <marex>                 retval = inf->init(dev);
Apr 06 17:44:09 <marex> +       uhchr = (__raw_readl(ohci->mmio_base + UHCHR) & ~(UHCHR_SSEP2 | UHCHR_SSE));
Apr 06 17:44:11 <marex> +       __raw_writel(uhchr, ohci->mmio_base + UHCHR);
Apr 06 17:44:13 <marex> +       uhchr = (__raw_readl(ohci->mmio_base + UHCHR) | (UHCHR_SSEP1 | UHCHR_SSEP3));
Apr 06 17:44:14 <Sleep_Walker> ######################################################
Apr 06 17:44:15 <marex> +       __raw_writel(uhchr, ohci->mmio_base + UHCHR);
Apr 06 17:44:17 <marex> +       uhchr = __raw_readl(ohci->mmio_base + UHCRHDA) | UHCRHDA_NOCP;
Apr 06 17:44:17 <Sleep_Walker> ############################
Apr 06 17:44:19 <marex> +       __raw_writel(uhchr, ohci->mmio_base + UHCRHDA);
Apr 06 17:44:21 <marex>         if (retval < 0)
Apr 06 17:44:23 <marex>                 return retval;
Apr 06 17:44:25 <marex> here ;-)
Apr 06 17:44:25 <Sleep_Walker> +      evil here!
Apr 06 17:44:49 <Sleep_Walker> marex: WTF?!
Apr 06 17:45:05 <Sleep_Walker> geez
Apr 06 17:45:10 <Sleep_Walker> what for?
Apr 06 17:45:16 <marex> the old way doesnt work anymore
Apr 06 17:45:22 <Sleep_Walker> you don't like using flags?
Apr 06 17:45:23 <marex> (that one for .27)
Apr 06 17:45:33 <Sleep_Walker> ENABLE_PORT1 ?
Apr 06 17:45:35 <Sleep_Walker> :D
Apr 06 17:45:48 <marex> miska's work
Apr 06 17:45:59 <Sleep_Walker> this is really useless
Apr 06 17:46:13 <mekius> wait, what is this patch you pasted?
Apr 06 17:46:32 <marex> it's duh patch yuh need ;D
Apr 06 17:46:42 <mekius> oh, so the patch on alex's post is no good?
Apr 06 17:46:52 <marex> you need to apply that one too
Apr 06 17:46:54 <Sleep_Walker> marex: do you know pastebin?
Apr 06 17:46:59 <mekius> oh, two patches, gotcha
Apr 06 17:47:00 <marex> Sleep_Walker, yea
Apr 06 17:47:01 <Sleep_Walker> http://www.pastebin.cz:80/17082
Apr 06 17:47:06 <mekius> yes, can you pastebin that :)
Apr 06 17:47:57 <Sleep_Walker> and in treo680_init add	"pxa_set_ohci_info(&treo680_ohci_info);"
Apr 06 17:48:33 <marex> and remove the stuff altering UHCHR and UHCRHDA
Apr 06 17:48:44 <marex> (leave there just the top one line)
Apr 06 17:48:44 <mekius> yeah, I see the post from alex, so i'll just apply both things and hopefully it will work :D
Apr 06 17:48:54 <mekius> I need a gender changer though, will have to find one of those
Apr 06 17:48:57 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: as marex said, it's outdated
Apr 06 17:49:02 <mekius> He talks about soldering things, is that even necessary?
Apr 06 17:49:09 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: nope :b
Apr 06 17:49:17 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: Alex likes soldering :b
Apr 06 17:49:21 <mekius> hehe
Apr 06 17:49:24 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: check his wifi for Treo650
Apr 06 17:49:30 <mekius> I may have to ask later for the patch since I'm on my work pc atm
Apr 06 17:49:44 <Sleep_Walker> geez
Apr 06 17:49:50 <Sleep_Walker> that debian is so slooooowwww
Apr 06 17:51:12 <marex> arguing on the Internet is like running in the Special Olympics ...even if you win, you're still retarded ;-)
Apr 06 17:51:27 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: wait, are these usb hacks already in the cumulative patch you sent me?
Apr 06 17:51:40 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: I added it yesterday
Apr 06 17:51:49 <Sleep_Walker> it probably is on web
Apr 06 17:51:53 <mekius> ok
Apr 06 17:51:55 <mekius> a patch?
Apr 06 17:51:57 <Sleep_Walker> yes
Apr 06 17:52:04 <mekius> ah ok
Apr 06 17:52:05 <Sleep_Walker> almost current :)
Apr 06 17:52:15 <mekius> i'll look later :)
Apr 06 17:52:24 <mekius> still need what marex pasted or should be all there/
Apr 06 17:52:25 <mekius> ?
Apr 06 17:52:37 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: you don't need it
Apr 06 17:52:41 <mekius> ok
Apr 06 17:52:59 * mekius plans trip to store later
Apr 06 17:53:16 <Sleep_Walker> but if you want to try USB host, add also port 2: ENABLE_PORT1 | ENABLE_PORT2 | ENABLE_PORT3
Apr 06 17:53:43 <mekius> k
Apr 06 17:54:01 <mekius> lunch time :)
Apr 06 17:54:02 <Sleep_Walker> but you can't use it as network then :)
Apr 06 17:54:07 <Sleep_Walker> bon apetite!
Apr 06 17:55:35 <mekius> yeah, well if I'm in linux i'll probably just use it for a wifi dongle :)
Apr 06 17:55:45 <mekius> atm I can't use cdma modem anyway heh
Apr 06 17:56:11 <mekius> either way, I think usb host is better then slave :)  I can then just transfer over wifi heh
Apr 06 17:56:32 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: you'll surely manage to working ;)
Apr 06 17:56:32 <mekius> so is it just a single usb port?
Apr 06 17:56:45 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: yes
Apr 06 17:56:52 <mekius> k
Apr 06 17:56:56 <Sleep_Walker> another USB port is used for bluetooth
Apr 06 17:57:01 <Sleep_Walker> (internally)
Apr 06 17:57:08 <Sleep_Walker> and the last one is not used at all
Apr 06 17:57:08 <mekius> ah makes sense
Apr 06 18:08:31 <Sleep_Walker> that debian is so sloow!
Apr 06 18:08:49 <Sleep_Walker> I'd rather overclock not to wait so long
Apr 06 18:14:38 <Sleep_Walker> 20 packages in hour
Apr 06 18:14:40 <Sleep_Walker> wow
Apr 06 18:27:53 <mekius> lol
Apr 06 18:28:03 <mekius> what are you installing?
Apr 06 18:28:32 <mekius> probably faster to just download all the packages, transfer them over and then use dpkg :)
Apr 06 19:55:02 <tuna`> didn't saw that: http://hackndev.com/node/276  that's a great news :)
Apr 06 19:55:30 <tuna`> marex: is it possible to use more than 32mb of ram in the TX?
Apr 06 19:56:56 <marex> sure, if you solder more chips into the device
Apr 06 19:58:02 <tuna`> marex: ^^' so there is no more ram than 32mb?
Apr 06 19:58:30 <marex> no, there's no more then 32 megs
Apr 06 19:58:51 <tuna`> marex: why web sites are talking about 128mb of ram + 128mb of flash... again they just copy paste wrong info.
Apr 06 19:58:56 <marex> there's actually 256kbytes more of CPU's SRAM, but that's not what you want
Apr 06 19:59:05 <tuna`> :]
Apr 06 19:59:24 <marex> tuna`, dunno ... the flash chip is 1Gbit
Apr 06 20:00:39 <tuna`> oO that's totally different than what can be read about TX specs.
Apr 06 20:00:55 <tuna`> can't rely on such web sites then.
Apr 06 20:02:59 <marex> well it clearly has 32 megs of ram and 128 megs of flash ... not a bit more or less
Apr 06 20:04:27 <tuna`> yep, I trust you. I am just suprized that so much web site pust copy paste wrogn info without verifying...
Apr 06 22:59:41 * flyback suspects he's near the end of the road, cognitive decline wise :/
Apr 07 00:43:59 <flyback> http://fora.tv/2008/08/11/Richard_Muller_on_Physics_for_Future_Presidents#chapter_00
Apr 07 00:57:16 <Sleep_Walker> any debianist here?
Apr 07 00:57:27 <Sleep_Walker> (or even Ubuntist :/)
Apr 07 00:58:44 <Sleep_Walker> even *buntist
Apr 07 01:01:19 <Sleep_Walker> ok, nevermind, got it :/
Apr 07 01:01:37 <Sleep_Walker> I hope there will be zypper in debian soon ;b
Apr 07 01:23:21 <Sleep_Walker> @later tell emfox working on battery and preparing some usable rootfs based using debian, the fact that there is no gpe-dm is really weird or - have you found the way how to start X during boot, use gpe-login and proceed?
Apr 07 01:23:21 <Belldandy> Sleep_Walker: The operation succeeded.
Apr 07 01:52:57 * flyback has chest pain now and starts to wonder if all the head problems etc are blood pressure
Apr 07 02:34:10 <flyback> j4k3 http://www.theonion.com/content/video/hot_new_video_game_consists <--- hahaha
Apr 07 02:34:26 * flyback hands himself a /msg and a FAIL
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