**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Wed Apr 08 02:59:57 2009
Apr 08 08:25:48 <Sleep-Walker> morning
Apr 08 08:43:42 <Sleep_Walker> @later tell emfox Have you already created keyboard map also for X? Or Have you problems with that? I'm using evdev driver in X and so it ignores loadkeys settings. Unfortunately it has different format again :/
Apr 08 08:43:42 <Belldandy> Sleep_Walker: The operation succeeded.
Apr 08 11:04:43 <emfox> Sleep_Walker: could you please send a msg to my gtalk?
Apr 08 11:07:46 <emfox> Sleep_Walker:Yes, the format is different. It's not hard to adjust the formats, I'll make a x keymap later
Apr 08 11:08:30 <Sleep_Walker> emfox: hi
Apr 08 11:08:33 <Sleep_Walker> I already tried
Apr 08 11:09:59 <Sleep_Walker> currently I've got my Treo680 in the fridge
Apr 08 11:10:19 <Sleep_Walker> (to find out which aux is which :)
Apr 08 11:10:49 <Sleep_Walker> networking over bluetooth still works :)
Apr 08 11:11:51 <emfox> fridge...
Apr 08 11:12:44 <Sleep_Walker> refrigerator
Apr 08 11:12:45 <Sleep_Walker> sorry
Apr 08 11:13:18 <emfox> :)
Apr 08 11:13:19 <Sleep_Walker> hm, my spelling was correct
Apr 08 11:13:36 <Sleep_Walker> doesn't matter
Apr 08 11:13:50 <emfox> I'm learning ETSI GSM 07.10
Apr 08 11:14:11 <emfox> hopefully to read through it in a week
Apr 08 11:14:57 <Sleep_Walker> were you successful in running zhone with Treo?
Apr 08 11:15:20 <emfox> yes, running is ok, but just a shell
Apr 08 11:15:28 <emfox> nothing functional
Apr 08 11:15:53 <emfox> in fact, I'm working on porting fso-frameworkd
Apr 08 11:16:22 <emfox> the first component is fso-gsmd ... damn it
Apr 08 11:16:53 * Sleep_Walker would like to have Qtopia :(
Apr 08 11:17:20 <Sleep_Walker> but I need to figure battery now and then I should have a look on Centro
Apr 08 11:17:50 <emfox> wish you success
Apr 08 11:18:09 <emfox> I do not like QT personally
Apr 08 11:19:06 * Sleep_Walker likes Qt much :b
Apr 08 11:20:43 <emfox> don't know QT4, but in QT3 time, there's some annoying problem with multilingual
Apr 08 11:21:02 <Sleep_Walker> Note that this does not hold for phones running Om_2008.8 - then gsmd has been replaced with Qtopia's mobile stack. Installing gsmd and related tools will conflict with qpe and things may not work.
Apr 08 11:21:08 <emfox> I must use CJK and that sucks
Apr 08 11:21:13 <Sleep_Walker> http://wiki.openmoko.org/wiki/Gsmd
Apr 08 11:22:02 <emfox> I know, and fso people's made gsmd to fso-ogsmd
Apr 08 11:22:54 <emfox> not exactly, but you can thought it like this
Apr 08 11:25:24 <Sleep_Walker> hmmm
Apr 08 12:21:32 <marex> darn
Apr 08 12:21:44 <marex> my connection sucks here
Apr 08 12:54:01 <alegra> hi
Apr 08 13:01:10 <marex> alegra, hello
Apr 08 13:34:57 <marex> brb
Apr 08 15:39:52 <WyrM> Hello russians. :)
Apr 08 15:43:05 <Sleep_Walker> russians?
Apr 08 15:43:10 <Sleep_Walker> russians?!
Apr 08 15:43:18 <WyrM> oh, sorry!
Apr 08 15:43:21 <Sleep_Walker> :D
Apr 08 15:43:26 <Sleep_Walker> point to two!
Apr 08 15:43:54 <WyrM> I tought that most #hackndev people were from Russia. :)
Apr 08 15:43:54 <Sleep_Walker> ok, probably AndyI and raorn
Apr 08 15:43:59 <WyrM> where are you from?
Apr 08 15:44:05 <Sleep_Walker> Czech republic :b
Apr 08 15:44:15 <Sleep_Walker> same as Marex
Apr 08 15:44:18 <Sleep_Walker> or |miska|
Apr 08 15:44:24 <mekius> I'm from the states :D
Apr 08 15:44:33 <mekius> USA that is :)
Apr 08 15:44:40 <Sleep_Walker> there are some from Poland
Apr 08 15:44:47 <Sleep_Walker> Slovakia
Apr 08 15:44:49 <Sleep_Walker> etc
Apr 08 15:44:57 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: we all know :b
Apr 08 15:45:14 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: btw. have you got further with Centro?
Apr 08 15:45:39 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: I was able to build some of the packages finally :)
Apr 08 15:45:52 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: you mean userspace?
Apr 08 15:45:53 <mekius> Turns out that it was trying to use ccache and there are apparently some bugs with ccache+oe
Apr 08 15:45:55 * WyrM is from Brazil.
Apr 08 15:46:00 <mekius> yeah, building my own rootfs
Apr 08 15:46:03 <Sleep_Walker> WyrM: I remember :)
Apr 08 15:46:16 <mekius> Am I the only American?
Apr 08 15:46:25 <Sleep_Walker> probably not
Apr 08 15:46:51 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: btw. if you're interested in building rootfs and you don't mind sharing it, publish it
Apr 08 15:46:58 <WyrM> lunch time. BB in 20 minutes.
Apr 08 15:47:03 <Sleep_Walker> I want some good and working environment
Apr 08 15:52:14 <raorn> whut?
Apr 08 15:55:13 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: Well once I get it working I'll probably share it :)
Apr 08 15:55:23 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: Along with any kernel builds I make that are worth anything heh
Apr 08 15:55:42 <mekius> But going to be awhile, so busy lately :)
Apr 08 15:55:46 <Sleep_Walker> raorn: sorry for highlight
Apr 08 16:07:39 <mekius> So does all of EU hate America?
Apr 08 16:08:13 <mekius> I guess everyone's happy now that our new president has pretty much been calling our country shit for the past week :P
Apr 08 16:26:41 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: no, it's not about hating someone :b
Apr 08 16:26:58 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: enjoy your software patents :)
Apr 08 16:27:02 <mekius> lol
Apr 08 16:27:22 <mekius> I'm really getting to the point of hating my own govt to be quite honest
Apr 08 16:27:43 <mekius> I up to strongly dislike so far :)
Apr 08 16:28:21 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: you can sell your house and move to EU :b
Apr 08 16:29:35 <mekius> I wish heh, too much family :)
Apr 08 16:29:52 <mekius> And I have a job, would be lucky to get one anywhere else :)
Apr 08 16:30:11 <mekius> Plus I can't afford to move down the street :P
Apr 08 16:35:04 <Sleep_Walker> mekius: bury family
Apr 08 16:36:46 <mekius> nah :P
Apr 08 17:53:09 <farcaller> hi all
Apr 08 17:53:28 <Sleep_Walker> farcaller: hi
Apr 08 17:53:37 <Sleep_Walker> farcaller: wtf with GIT layout changes?
Apr 08 17:53:42 * farcaller is looking for comments on this issue: http://farcaller.net/blog/en/2009/04/server-updates/
Apr 08 17:53:53 <farcaller> Sleep_Walker: wtf is bad with git layout changes?
Apr 08 17:54:39 <Sleep_Walker> farcaller: I don't know
Apr 08 17:54:49 <Sleep_Walker> I just didn't understand why are you doing that
Apr 08 17:55:29 <farcaller> because the current access model sucks
Apr 08 17:55:52 <farcaller> it's based on hacking acls that are getting screwed from time to time
Apr 08 17:57:29 <Sleep_Walker> btw. what about adding some porn commercials into our web?
Apr 08 17:57:34 <Sleep_Walker> it's too sad as it is :)
Apr 08 17:57:43 <farcaller> uh. porn commercials? o_O
Apr 08 17:58:08 <Sleep_Walker> Linux PDAs and nude chicks :b
Apr 08 17:58:17 <farcaller> LOL
Apr 08 17:59:11 * farcaller is ok with nude chicks
Apr 08 17:59:42 <Sleep_Walker> farcaller: fine, but I think marex will insist hentai :/
Apr 08 18:00:23 * farcaller doesn't care as long as they're female :D
Apr 08 20:23:07 <marex> whut duh f~~~~ ?!
Apr 08 20:23:25 <marex> someone tinkered with powersupply again ?
Apr 08 20:31:57 <mekius> why would anyone play with your power supply?
Apr 08 20:59:33 <marex> mekius, not mine, but servers' ;)
Apr 08 21:00:03 <mekius> ah :)
Apr 08 21:34:06 <marex> btw. usb host in openBSD is really great thing :)
Apr 08 21:34:22 <marex> I can connect keyboard and networking card to my Palm :-B
Apr 08 21:35:07 <marex> that way I can have really cheap (-lt 100 bucks) terminal with really long battery life
Apr 08 21:35:53 <mekius> haha
Apr 08 21:36:03 <mekius> anyone tried fennec on palm?
Apr 08 21:36:44 <marex> isnt that wm-only ?
Apr 08 21:37:03 <mekius> wm?
Apr 08 21:37:12 <mekius> oh windows mobile
Apr 08 21:37:20 <mekius> I meant while in linux, they have builds for linux afaik
Apr 08 21:37:25 <marex> btw the configuration is pretty nice ;-) 416MHz CPU, 32 megs of RAM, 7 USB ports, 8 Gigs of storage ...
Apr 08 21:37:29 <mekius> obviously can't use it on palmos :D
Apr 08 21:37:35 <mekius> 7 usb ports lol
Apr 08 21:37:43 <marex> mekius, with proper usb hub that is
Apr 08 21:37:46 <mekius> yeah
Apr 08 21:38:04 <marex> anyway ... if you go for smaller hub (eg. 3 ports), you get even longer life
Apr 08 21:38:16 <mekius> slap a usb harddrive on there and install lighttpd and you have a www/file server :)
Apr 08 21:38:28 <mekius> well if the hub is powered it shouldn't matter right?
Apr 08 21:38:47 <marex> right, but consider you power it from some bigger battery
Apr 08 21:39:42 <marex> btw throw in 2 networking cards and add switch and you have a router ;)
Apr 08 21:40:06 <marex> really hardcore router, but with builtin "UPS"
Apr 08 21:40:33 <marex> I'd be frightened about the throughput (usb1.1)
Apr 08 21:42:01 <mekius> :P
Apr 08 21:42:07 <mekius> yeah, 1.1 not going to be very good heh
Apr 08 21:43:13 <mekius> of course it's 12Mbit, would be good enough for most peoples internet needs I'm guessing
Apr 08 21:43:26 <mekius> can you imagine if you got the gsm working
Apr 08 21:43:28 <mekius> gsm router :D
Apr 08 21:43:39 <marex> well high-throughput networking wont be it's primary goal ;)
Apr 08 21:43:45 <mekius> hehe
Apr 08 21:43:57 <marex> the device I port it to doesnt have GSM nor wifi ;)
Apr 08 21:44:03 <mekius> ah
Apr 08 21:44:37 <marex> well I can prepare you an image for centro ;)
Apr 08 21:44:41 <marex> or rather give it a go
Apr 08 21:44:45 <marex> it might be harder
Apr 08 21:45:39 <marex> or you can pick my sources for T5 and port it to centro yourself ... what do you think ? ;)
Apr 08 21:47:51 <mekius> sources to do what exactly?
Apr 08 21:48:14 <marex> openbsd sources and port them to centro ;)
Apr 08 21:48:23 <mekius> oh heh, I don't care for bsd :)
Apr 08 21:48:54 <marex> you get more security by it ;)
Apr 08 21:59:16 <mekius> marex: it's my phone :P
Apr 09 00:34:55 * flyback is still waiting his reply from God to WTF he is still alive for
Apr 09 02:54:33 <mekius> Sleep_Walker: ping
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