**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Apr 21 02:59:57 2009
Apr 21 03:08:10 * flyback has been hand washing cdr
Apr 21 03:08:20 * flyback has been hand washing cdr and dvdr all night as he cleans up/out his room
Apr 21 03:17:43 * flyback bbl going to be sick again, ugh
Apr 21 03:34:02 * flyback decides he's had enough and takes a full strength bentyl
Apr 21 03:35:33 * flyback prepares to be stoned and half blind for a few hrs as the medication side effects suck
Apr 21 08:26:58 <Sleep_Walker> morning
Apr 21 08:44:12 <deathw0rm> morning
Apr 21 08:52:44 <Sleep_Walker> new satrotroph here :)
Apr 21 09:11:07 <flyback> http://www.digitimes.com/photogallery/ShowPhoto.asp?ID=3788
Apr 21 09:11:08 <flyback> damn
Apr 21 09:48:26 <Sleep_Walker> s/satrotroph/saprotroph/
Apr 21 10:02:07 <enigme> hi Sleep_Walker
Apr 21 10:02:19 <Sleep_Walker> hi, enigme
Apr 21 10:02:34 <enigme> I just saw you posted something on http://hackndev.com/node/24
Apr 21 10:02:38 <enigme> is something new in that kernel?
Apr 21 10:03:14 <Sleep_Walker> enigme: since when?
Apr 21 10:03:30 <Sleep_Walker> enigme: better console font :b
Apr 21 10:03:43 <Sleep_Walker> bigger font than the one marex use :b
Apr 21 10:03:43 <enigme> "Submitted by SleepWalker on 20 April, 2009 - 14:54."
Apr 21 10:03:50 <enigme> oh, ok :)
Apr 21 10:04:00 <Sleep_Walker> enigme: I know - sw2
Apr 21 10:04:04 <Sleep_Walker> but against sw1?
Apr 21 10:04:26 <enigme> sorry, "against sw1"?
Apr 21 10:04:42 <Sleep_Walker> enigme: check that link :b
Apr 21 10:04:53 <Sleep_Walker> I mark my builds with 'sw#' :b
Apr 21 10:05:07 <Sleep_Walker> there is also initrd/initramfs support, cramfs support, squashfs 4.0 support
Apr 21 10:05:24 <Sleep_Walker> so it can be easilly used for miska's rootfs on loopback
Apr 21 10:05:32 <enigme> hmm...
Apr 21 10:06:06 <enigme> could http://sleepwalker.hackndev.com/release/TX/linux-2.6-arm/partition/2/zImage.TX.sw2 be used as a dropin replacement (with the appropriate cocoboot.conf and modules file) for the current loopbackfs on |miska|'s website?
Apr 21 10:06:19 <Sleep_Walker> enigme: are you looking for something specific?
Apr 21 10:06:32 <Sleep_Walker> yes and no
Apr 21 10:06:45 <enigme> no, just looking at the hackndev website every now and then to see if something new has been posted :)
Apr 21 10:06:47 <Sleep_Walker> cocoboot.conf must be edited - 'initrd = ' line
Apr 21 10:06:57 <Sleep_Walker> and then it should work
Apr 21 10:07:16 <Sleep_Walker> me and miska are unifying our builds
Apr 21 10:07:27 <enigme> allright
Apr 21 10:07:31 <enigme> all right *
Apr 21 10:07:43 <Sleep_Walker> I would like to create repository for our lightweight initrd
Apr 21 10:07:47 <enigme> any idea if the bug I ran across will still be there?
Apr 21 10:07:50 <Sleep_Walker> and then just build
Apr 21 10:08:02 <Sleep_Walker> enigme: remind me that bug, please
Apr 21 10:08:30 <enigme> it would start dimming the screen (inactivity) and then completely shut down, requiring a reset (little button on the back of the device)
Apr 21 10:08:48 <enigme> ACPI trouble, I'm assuming--no sound or battery level indicator, though they work fine with |miska|'s older kernel
Apr 21 10:09:17 <Sleep_Walker> hm
Apr 21 10:09:24 <Sleep_Walker> dimming directly after start?
Apr 21 10:09:32 <enigme> no, after a little inactivity
Apr 21 10:09:40 <enigme> powersave mode, I think
Apr 21 10:09:49 <Sleep_Walker> that should be console blanking support
Apr 21 10:09:56 <Sleep_Walker> or - suspend?
Apr 21 10:10:05 <Sleep_Walker> well, I don't know
Apr 21 10:10:07 <enigme> on |miska|'s other kernel, it goes like this
Apr 21 10:10:17 <enigme> usage -> inactivity -> lower brightness by 1/2
Apr 21 10:10:19 <Sleep_Walker> right now I've got |miska|'s TX
Apr 21 10:10:26 <Sleep_Walker> I'd like to prepare build today
Apr 21 10:10:28 <enigme> more inactivity -> completely go to sleep
Apr 21 10:10:33 <Sleep_Walker> in OPIE?
Apr 21 10:11:06 <enigme> for what it's worth, my T|X is a little buggy -- 484x324 doesn't work, even in TCPMP or something under the real PalmOS
Apr 21 10:11:26 <enigme> yes, but the crashing happened in GPE as well, very reproducibly
Apr 21 10:11:59 <Sleep_Walker> hmmm
Apr 21 10:12:09 <Sleep_Walker> 1] there is no ACPI
Apr 21 10:12:32 <Sleep_Walker> 2] battery and sound may be fixed - it seems that problem is not on our side
Apr 21 10:13:12 <Sleep_Walker> 3] if you're talking about brightness control - there can be misconfigured some GPIO, I'll check later
Apr 21 10:13:16 <enigme> battery and sound both work on |miska|'s old kernel -- SW1 didn't display battery (first version couldn't boot, second version it didn't say)
Apr 21 10:13:40 <Sleep_Walker> |miska|'s kernel is 2.6.21
Apr 21 10:13:57 <Sleep_Walker> mine is 2.6.29, built from upstream kernel
Apr 21 10:14:16 <Sleep_Walker> if you're interested in old and stable kernel, just keep using it
Apr 21 10:14:35 <Sleep_Walker> but backporting of WiFi driver will probably be hard
Apr 21 10:15:04 <enigme> stability isn't a huge requirement for me (it's not as if running linux on a palm pda via cocoboot is going to be the most stable option anyway)
Apr 21 10:15:06 <Sleep_Walker> unfortunately - marex is often pushing incomplete code :)
Apr 21 10:15:33 <enigme> so long as it doesn't crash if you turn it on and set it down to go get a $thing
Apr 21 10:16:14 * enigme makes a note -- next time, try manually adjusting brightness to see what happens
Apr 21 10:16:29 <Sleep_Walker> enigme: the problem is, that we're using devel branch, not stable, there can be many issues on upstream side - please, be patient - we're working on that
Apr 21 10:16:52 <Sleep_Walker> enigme: the most important are highest and lowest brightness values
Apr 21 10:16:55 <enigme> sorry if I'm coming across as being impatient, just curious :)
Apr 21 10:17:02 <Sleep_Walker> there can be display completely disabled
Apr 21 10:17:08 <Sleep_Walker> let me check code
Apr 21 10:18:33 <enigme> thanks :)
Apr 21 10:18:45 <Sleep_Walker> 	gpio_set_value(GPIO_NR_PALMTX_BL_POWER, brightness);
Apr 21 10:18:47 <Sleep_Walker> 	gpio_set_value(GPIO_NR_PALMTX_LCD_POWER, brightness);
Apr 21 10:18:48 <Sleep_Walker> 	return brightness;
Apr 21 10:18:50 <Sleep_Walker> it's there
Apr 21 10:19:03 <Sleep_Walker> so - maybe you've got different GPIO for that
Apr 21 10:19:14 <enigme> what's a GPIO?
Apr 21 10:19:30 <Sleep_Walker> General Purpose Input/Output pin of processor
Apr 21 10:19:36 <Sleep_Walker> I can send you my GPIOeditor for PalmOS
Apr 21 10:19:45 <Sleep_Walker> you can try to verify it in PalmOS
Apr 21 10:20:04 <Sleep_Walker> it's not much stable, but you can give a try
Apr 21 10:20:27 <Sleep_Walker> #define GPIO_NR_PALMTX_BL_POWER			84
Apr 21 10:20:27 <enigme> worth a shot :)  why would GPIO change between the kernel versions, though?
Apr 21 10:20:28 <Sleep_Walker> #define GPIO_NR_PALMTX_LCD_POWER		96
Apr 21 10:21:03 <Sleep_Walker> because marex like copy&paste&push insted of copy&paste&test&test&test&push :)
Apr 21 10:21:13 <Sleep_Walker> s/insted/instead/
Apr 21 10:21:16 <enigme> ahh :D
Apr 21 10:21:20 <enigme> my kind of programmer
Apr 21 10:21:50 <Sleep_Walker> the only thing right for sure is his name and e-mail address on the list of authors :b
Apr 21 10:22:07 * enigme chuckles
Apr 21 10:22:22 <Sleep_Walker> he's really very capable, but ...
Apr 21 10:23:02 <enigme> well, I can't say anything -- I'm at the "how the heck do you compile this kernel" stage :)
Apr 21 10:23:58 <Sleep_Walker> hmmm, values seems to be same
Apr 21 10:24:48 * enigme has a rebellious T|X then :D
Apr 21 10:25:16 <Sleep_Walker> maybe you have some different HW revision, who knows
Apr 21 10:25:51 <enigme> might be
Apr 21 10:26:13 <Sleep_Walker> ping me later today
Apr 21 10:26:19 <Sleep_Walker> I have to work now, ok?
Apr 21 10:26:19 <enigme> anyway, I'd better get back to this homework... nice chatting with you :)
Apr 21 10:26:27 <enigme> haha, ditto
Apr 21 10:26:36 <enigme> what time should I ping you?
Apr 21 10:57:50 <Sleep_Walker> enigme: cca 16:30 GMT+1 :)
Apr 21 12:11:35 <marex> @ping
Apr 21 12:11:35 <Belldandy> pong
Apr 21 12:18:32 <enigme> @ping?
Apr 21 22:27:55 * flyback disables /ame and /amsg
Apr 21 22:29:55 <marex> flyback, try twitter
Apr 21 22:30:15 <flyback> marex
Apr 21 22:30:21 <flyback> did you read what I just said
Apr 21 22:30:29 <marex> some random sh*t
Apr 21 22:30:49 <flyback> read it
Apr 21 22:31:23 <flyback> I am saying basically what you want
Apr 21 22:35:04 <marex> cool ... you'll just talk without it anyway
Apr 21 22:39:10 <flyback> hahaah
Apr 21 22:39:20 <flyback> ugh that one didn't disable, damn
Apr 21 22:40:13 <Sleep_Walker> good nite folks
Apr 21 22:44:13 <flyback> - /ame and -/amsg are now disabled at till till I reboot this livecd
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