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Jan 17 11:21:50 <Sleep_Walker> marex: pong
Jan 17 17:18:31 <macgyver_alt> hi marex: about the libertas-fw. the palm tx enterprice security update contains no new fw. wanted to inform - i bought the esu a few years ago and hoped to get a commercial fw-update.
Jan 17 17:38:01 <Marex> macgyver_alt: I'm talking to marvell about possible release of v5 fw for cf8381
Jan 17 17:39:24 <macgyver_alt> yes you told - you even told about the chances ...
Jan 17 17:40:21 <macgyver_alt> do you rate the higher?
Jan 17 17:40:39 <Marex> I got somewhere, I'll see
Jan 17 17:41:25 <macgyver_alt> do you know about the watchdog timeout error
Jan 17 17:42:13 <macgyver_alt> (unfortunatly I've read posts about this even with fwv5 - but other chipset)
Jan 17 17:48:17 <Marex> watchdog timeout ?
Jan 17 17:48:17 <Marex> no
Jan 17 17:49:23 <macgyver_alt> very strange: after som kb traffic the module sais that there is a watchdog timeout
Jan 17 17:50:06 <macgyver_alt> like: http://answerpot.com/showthread.php?686972-libertas+watchdog+timeout
Jan 17 17:51:19 <macgyver_alt> or: http://old.nabble.com/-verdex--libertas-wifi-driver-hangs-td28842840.html
Jan 17 17:52:29 <macgyver_alt> so i do a while-true-loop (iwlist eth0 scanning) end - in parallel. so i gets a little bit better.
Jan 17 17:59:05 <zumbi_> Marex-NDA :P
Jan 17 18:00:04 <zumbi_> oops - i was stuck on an old line... < enigme> Marex, don't worry, I won't ask you to break your NDA ;)
Jan 17 18:02:22 <macgyver_alt> pardon? anything bout the  libertas: Timeout submitting command 0x001f
Jan 17 18:02:22 <macgyver_alt> libertas: PREP_CMD: command 0x001f failed: -110
Jan 17 18:02:22 <macgyver_alt> libertas: tx watch dog timeout
Jan 17 18:10:34 <Marex> macgyver_alt: with what kernel ?
Jan 17 18:32:12 <macgyver_alt> i think .31
Jan 17 18:33:53 <Marex> macgyver_alt: we're at .37+ now
Jan 17 18:35:15 <macgyver_alt> does it matter? where do do assume the problem: the module?
Jan 17 18:36:26 <macgyver_alt> fw:4.102 kernel: 2.6.31.13
Jan 17 18:45:44 <Marex> it's about two years of kernel development ... it does matter
Jan 17 18:49:03 <macgyver_alt> ok i'll build it new - and use your patches, right - will the get to the kernel tree someday ?
Jan 17 19:00:33 <Marex> macgyver_alt: what do you mean ?
Jan 17 19:00:43 <Marex> what patches ? and what kernel tree shall they get in ?
Jan 17 19:01:08 <macgyver_alt> you did the libertas patch, don't you
Jan 17 19:04:55 <Marex> yea ... that's been mainlined ... back in July 2009
Jan 17 19:07:20 <macgyver_alt> ok - new kernel git - no "marex" patches
Jan 17 19:08:37 <macgyver_alt> and using your palmtc .config (with changes)
Jan 17 19:17:15 <Marex> palmtc .config ?
Jan 17 19:17:24 <Marex> http://marex.hackndev.com/config-palm ... use this
Jan 17 19:18:05 <Marex> and kernel from here ... git clone git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/marex/pxa-linux-2.6 ; git checkout devel-fix
Jan 17 19:18:35 <macgyver_alt> many thanks - somewhere in hackndev was told about the tc-config to use
Jan 17 19:19:05 <Marex> someone should update the wiki and stuff
Jan 17 19:19:09 <Marex> it's all mainline now
Jan 17 19:20:35 <macgyver_alt> ok i'll build it new - and use your patches, right - will the get to the kernel tree someday ? --- ok my question was not too clear - but your last "mainline" answer describes it well ;-)
Jan 17 19:22:55 <Marex> you should use the kernel from the link I posted though ... that's the tip of development branch, it also contains some fixes
Jan 17 19:24:05 <macgyver_alt> yes - so hackndev node 315 is very obsolete
Jan 17 20:32:21 <Marex> macgyver_alt: please stick here
Jan 17 20:32:26 <Marex> macgyver_alt: how do you compile the kernel ?
Jan 17 20:40:02 <macgyver_alt> ok i git the sources from you
Jan 17 20:40:19 <macgyver_alt> checked out - copied your config
Jan 17 20:40:45 <macgyver_alt> edited the makefile for my gnu-arm-bin
Jan 17 20:40:55 <macgyver_alt> and did the make
Jan 17 20:42:32 <Marex> oh no
Jan 17 20:42:44 <macgyver_alt> :-(
Jan 17 20:42:46 <Marex> are you at devel-fix branch, right ?
Jan 17 20:42:59 <Marex> run "git branch" command
Jan 17 20:43:08 <Marex> the asterisk should be next to devel-fix
Jan 17 20:43:25 <Marex> then ... run git diff ... if it outputs anything, run "git reset --hard"
Jan 17 20:43:27 <macgyver_alt> no - master
Jan 17 20:43:40 <Marex> fine ... run git reset --hard ; git checkout devel-fix
Jan 17 20:43:41 <macgyver_alt> hmm - first i cloned
Jan 17 20:44:25 <macgyver_alt> now the asterisk is at devel
Jan 17 20:48:35 <Marex> devel ?
Jan 17 20:48:55 <Marex> macgyver_alt: run "git reset --hard"
Jan 17 20:49:02 <Marex> macgyver_alt: run "git checkout devel-fix"
Jan 17 20:49:06 <Marex> these two commands
Jan 17 20:49:15 <macgyver_alt> yes i did
Jan 17 20:49:17 <Marex> then when you run "git branch", it should be next to "devel-fix"
Jan 17 20:49:23 <Marex> is it next to "devel-fix" ?
Jan 17 20:49:29 <macgyver_alt> yes
Jan 17 20:49:33 <Marex> good
Jan 17 20:49:47 <Marex> now ... "cp path/to/config-palm .config"
Jan 17 20:49:47 <macgyver_alt> no i did a make clean (dont know if it neccessary)
Jan 17 20:50:13 <Marex> yes ... before the "cp  ..." command above, run "make clean mrproper"
Jan 17 20:50:14 <macgyver_alt> yes i did - edited the makefile again
Jan 17 20:50:22 <Marex> do NOT edit the Makefile !
Jan 17 20:50:47 <Marex> damned ... follow me please
Jan 17 20:50:48 <macgyver_alt> how shall i tell to usm my arm-gcc
Jan 17 20:50:59 <Marex> macgyver_alt: that's where I'm getting to
Jan 17 20:51:17 <Marex> macgyver_alt: so ... run git reset --hard again to get rid of your changes to makefile
Jan 17 20:51:24 <Marex> it'll clean the tree
Jan 17 20:51:28 <macgyver_alt> sooooory - i doo
Jan 17 20:52:23 <Marex> ok, "git reset --hard" "git branch" (to check if you're at devel-fix) "make clean mrproper" "cp path/to/config-palm .config" "make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi-"
Jan 17 20:52:24 <macgyver_alt> yes i have
Jan 17 20:52:35 <Marex> these five commands ...
Jan 17 20:52:44 <Marex> you should get an arch/arm/boot/zImage file ...
Jan 17 20:52:45 <Marex> that's it
Jan 17 20:53:10 <macgyver_alt> cross-compile would be arm-elf for me
Jan 17 20:53:25 <Marex> btw if your arm-gcc is called differently (not arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc), adjust that in the CROSS_COMPILE variable passed to make (as you can see in the last command)
Jan 17 20:53:35 <Marex> macgyver_alt: hm ... where did you get that cross-compiler ?
Jan 17 20:53:42 <Marex> macgyver_alt: and what version of gcc is it ?
Jan 17 20:54:16 <macgyver_alt> gnu-arm http://www.gnuarm.com/
Jan 17 20:54:53 <Marex> gcc 4.1.1 ?
Jan 17 20:55:11 <Marex> you won't be able to compile it with such an old thing, you have to update your toolchain ... what distro do you use ?
Jan 17 20:55:51 <macgyver_alt> 4.3.3 bluewhite64 (near slack ...)
Jan 17 20:55:59 <macgyver_alt> to old ?
Jan 17 21:02:26 <Marex> yes
Jan 17 21:03:11 <Marex> you should use at least 4.4 ... hmm ... maybe you can get a decent crosscompiler/toolchain binary from codesourcery
Jan 17 21:04:03 <macgyver_alt> ok tomorrow - questions during the make are ok?
Jan 17 21:05:44 <macgyver_alt> whats the difference between editing the makefile arch-variable and doing a make ARCH= ?
Jan 17 21:06:47 <Marex> nothing really ... but editing stuff back and forth is stupid
Jan 17 21:07:37 <Marex> macgyver_alt: I'll be abroad tomorrow for most of the day
Jan 17 21:07:46 <Marex> macgyver_alt: better solve it now
Jan 17 21:08:13 <macgyver_alt> meanwhile i'll get my toolchain working ...
Jan 17 21:08:48 <macgyver_alt> ok - where to get a good arm-gcc
Jan 17 21:12:34 <Marex> http://www.codesourcery.com/sgpp/lite/arm/portal/release1592 try here
Jan 17 21:13:12 <macgyver_alt> 32bit
Jan 17 21:13:52 <macgyver_alt> bluewhite is pure 64bit
Jan 17 21:14:13 <Marex> zumbi_: ^
Jan 17 21:14:37 <Marex> then I have no idea ... you can install debian into chroot, then install crosscompiler into debian
Jan 17 21:15:06 <macgyver_alt> yes there is an embdebian ore something like that
Jan 17 21:15:27 <macgyver_alt> and there is an old notbook too
Jan 17 21:15:42 <macgyver_alt> but the is no coffee
Jan 17 21:15:48 <Marex> bluelightning: welcome
Jan 17 21:16:02 <Marex> macgyver_alt: you're somewhere in europe or did you drifted timezones ? :D
Jan 17 21:16:02 <macgyver_alt> just kidding - the embdebia distri is k ?
Jan 17 21:16:19 <bluelightning> hi Marex
Jan 17 21:16:23 <macgyver_alt> jip gmt+1
Jan 17 21:18:37 <Marex> macgyver_alt: germany ?
Jan 17 21:18:49 <Marex> macgyver_alt: probably either emdebian or linaro toolchain
Jan 17 21:24:41 <Marex> macgyver_alt: please ... stick in the channel ...
Jan 17 21:25:05 <Marex> macgyver_alt: and no ... emdebian is just a set of tools for cross compilation (then there's grip, which is a whole distro)
Jan 17 21:25:14 <Marex> but grip is a distro for ARM
Jan 17 21:25:31 <macgyver_alt> emdebian seems to bee old
Jan 17 21:25:47 <Marex> well use linaro toolchain then
Jan 17 21:26:11 <macgyver_alt> is it commercial - the web page looks not "linux-like"
Jan 17 21:26:17 <macgyver_alt> know what i mean ?
Jan 17 21:27:25 <macgyver_alt> https://launchpad.net/gcc-linaro/4.5 ?
Jan 17 21:38:53 <macgyver_alt> ok marex - thanks a lot - i'll make my toolchain
Jan 17 21:38:59 <macgyver_alt> bye
Jan 17 21:40:39 <zumbi_> Marex: hi
Jan 17 21:41:01 <zumbi_> what is bluewhite?
Jan 17 21:41:30 <zumbi_> Marex: grip is not only grip, but also some other arches as sh4, mips, mipsel, powerpc, ..
Jan 17 21:41:53 <zumbi_> i meant, there is more than ARM arches (armel, arm, armhf)
Jan 17 21:51:09 <Marex> zumbi_: emdebian.org is back up?
Jan 17 22:32:41 <zumbi_> Marex: it should be since before xmas
Jan 17 22:33:02 <Marex> zumbi_: oh ... great :)
Jan 17 22:33:13 <Marex> zumbi_: btw I'm really looking forward to fosdem :)
Jan 17 22:33:20 <zumbi_> Marex: but, we changed server...
Jan 17 22:33:52 <zumbi_> yeah! fosdem. I'll be there in the embedded room
Jan 17 22:33:56 <zumbi_> (mainly)
Jan 17 22:34:08 <Marex> zumbi_: I hope to meet you at the drinking party :)
Jan 17 22:35:55 <zumbi_> Marex: oh! yes
Jan 17 22:36:05 <zumbi_> should be there too
Jan 17 22:36:29 <zumbi_> Marex: have you ever been to fosdem before?
Jan 17 22:36:37 <Marex> zumbi_: nope, why ?
Jan 17 22:37:38 <zumbi_> just wondering..
Jan 17 22:37:53 <zumbi_> i'll be great to see you there
Jan 17 22:38:03 <Marex> zumbi_: yep :)
Jan 17 22:39:20 <zumbi_> where are you hosted?
Jan 17 22:39:26 <zumbi_> near the center?
Jan 17 22:39:36 <zumbi_> la grand place
Jan 17 22:43:04 <Marex> hotel belgium iirc
Jan 17 22:43:09 <Marex> lemme check
Jan 17 22:46:56 <Marex> http://www.hotelbrusselsbelgium.com/EN/hotel.html
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