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Jun 26 06:56:29 <`Wedge_> I'm trying to use it under linux
Jun 26 06:56:38 <`Wedge_> but  it's bootloader doesn't work properly
Jun 26 12:01:51 <zumbi> `Wedge_: I have used openocd successfully on stm32
Jun 26 12:02:13 <zumbi> stm32 does not have a bootloader
Jun 26 12:02:27 <zumbi> well it does, but not same as linux
Jun 26 12:02:44 <zumbi> it reads reset vector table and jumps to start address
Jun 26 15:04:55 <flyback> yes because stm does not have mmu
Jun 26 15:05:34 <flyback> although I guess it doesn;t matter for the mmu because vm isn't used yet
Jun 26 15:05:39 <flyback> err bootloader
Jun 26 15:12:54 <zumbi> flyback: I program bare metal code on it, not trying to run linux on it
Jun 26 15:13:26 <zumbi> if you want to try linux, then you need external RAM and a patched kernel
Jun 26 15:14:53 <zumbi> http://www.linux-arm.org/git?p=linux-2.6-stable.git
Jun 26 15:15:01 <zumbi> but linux on cortex m3 sucks
Jun 26 15:15:08 <flyback> no I don't have one :P
Jun 26 15:15:16 <flyback> I was talking about `Wedgie
Jun 26 15:15:33 <zumbi> oh! yes I got confused
Jun 26 15:16:04 <flyback> you should play with these
Jun 26 15:16:06 <flyback> freertos
Jun 26 15:16:10 <flyback> contiki
Jun 26 15:16:13 <flyback> tinyos
Jun 26 15:16:27 <flyback> they also run on many 8 bit soc's
Jun 26 15:17:36 <zumbi> yes, but integrating tcpip, usb, touchscreen drivers on those sucks
Jun 26 15:17:51 <zumbi> freertos, iirc, does not have mutex or locks
Jun 26 15:18:24 <zumbi> it would be really nice to have a project aiming to unify stacks for GNU GCC
Jun 26 15:20:45 <flyback> well might be fun for some projects :P
Jun 26 15:20:53 <flyback> I am sticking to 8 bit myself for now
Jun 26 15:21:10 <flyback> where you from?
Jun 26 15:26:08 <zumbi> flyback: I am in the uk now
Jun 26 15:26:13 <zumbi> but original from .es
Jun 26 15:26:33 <zumbi> flyback: there is also libopenstm32 or something like that
Jun 26 15:26:49 <zumbi> flyback: which 8 bit micros do you use? PIC?
Jun 26 15:27:00 <flyback> msp430 and 8051
Jun 26 15:27:38 <zumbi> ah! nice msp430, I also use them
Jun 26 15:28:01 <flyback> I have only done one project at xmas but still I been learning about them for a while now
Jun 26 15:28:17 <flyback> did you see they released ones with fram instead of flash?
Jun 26 15:28:25 <flyback> little more expensive but you can
Jun 26 15:28:27 <flyback> do
Jun 26 15:28:28 <flyback> write
Jun 26 15:28:29 <flyback> write
Jun 26 15:28:30 <flyback> write
Jun 26 15:28:30 <flyback> write
Jun 26 15:28:30 <flyback> write
Jun 26 15:28:30 <flyback> write
Jun 26 15:28:36 <flyback> every second for yrs
Jun 26 15:28:39 <flyback> and not wear it out
Jun 26 15:29:21 <zumbi> I heard about those, I have to check them out
Jun 26 15:29:29 <zumbi> nice for low power
Jun 26 15:29:44 <flyback> yeap
Jun 26 15:29:49 <zumbi> I am trying to identify nice/cheap low power micro
Jun 26 15:29:50 <flyback> and lots of smart features
Jun 26 15:29:51 <flyback> it
Jun 26 15:30:01 <flyback> it is actually is a nice completely to stm32
Jun 26 15:30:19 <zumbi> flyback: can you program msp430 from linux box?
Jun 26 15:30:25 <flyback> cause in a low power situation, the stm32 could shutoff and the msp430 could do to very low power mode to wait for better power
Jun 26 15:30:29 <zumbi> I have to use win32 tool for programming them
Jun 26 15:30:34 <flyback> such as if you were on wind power etc
Jun 26 15:30:36 <zumbi> which it is annoying
Jun 26 15:30:41 <flyback> yeah some guys have got most of it to work
Jun 26 15:30:44 <flyback> also you can use a vm :P
Jun 26 15:30:50 <flyback> wine might work now
Jun 26 15:30:53 <flyback> ask #sparkfun
Jun 26 15:30:55 <flyback> and
Jun 26 15:30:58 <flyback> #43oh
Jun 26 15:31:09 <zumbi> i want to use openocd
Jun 26 15:31:25 <flyback> well some msp430 have jtag
Jun 26 15:31:43 <zumbi> yes, but it is not standard jtag
Jun 26 15:31:55 <flyback> no some have standard I thought
Jun 26 15:32:05 <flyback> I thought it's only the small pin ones that use spy-biwire
Jun 26 15:32:19 <flyback> again ask #43oh
Jun 26 15:32:22 <flyback> they know more than me :P
Jun 26 15:32:46 <zumbi> ok
Jun 26 15:33:02 <zumbi> sometime, I won't ask just to ask.. :)
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