**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Tue Dec 13 02:59:57 2011 Dec 13 10:19:40 hey guys how do i get started trying to install linux on my palm t5? Dec 13 10:19:47 http://l4p.hackndev.org/trac/wiki/Bootpacks this url seems to be down Dec 13 12:12:46 gnarface: fetch latest mainline kernel, compile it for palmt5_config and boot it with cocoboot Dec 13 13:11:40 Marex: happen to have a url to a howto? i've compiled i386 and amd64 kernels by the dozens... even a couple ppc kernels, but this would be my first arm kernel Dec 13 13:15:06 it's the same thing ... Dec 13 13:15:23 make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- palmt5_config Dec 13 13:15:26 make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi- -j9 Dec 13 13:15:36 then grab arch/arm/boot/zImage Dec 13 13:26:37 gnarface: of course, you need crosscompiler for your distro (debian == emdebian.org ; ubunchu == linaro toolchain) Dec 13 13:27:37 ok Dec 13 13:27:53 thanks for the info Dec 13 14:05:01 gnarface: does it work ? Dec 13 14:06:00 Marex: i've never cross-compiled anything either Dec 13 14:06:13 Marex: i'll have to get back to you on that after i've had a chance to sleep and do some reading Dec 13 14:06:25 QUOTE: "i've compiled i386 and amd64 kernels by the dozens... even a couple ppc kernels" Dec 13 14:06:36 shrug Dec 13 14:06:41 Marex: i compiled those on native hardware, no cross-compiling was involved Dec 13 14:07:02 oh well Dec 13 14:28:37 I just compiled separate gcc and installed it to /usr/local and made sure PATH reached it Dec 13 14:29:01 does bluetooth work on the t5? Dec 13 14:29:21 no idea, my T|E has only infrared Dec 13 14:29:59 infrared--- interesting. the t5 has infrared as well. i wonder how hard it would be to use it as a tv remote Dec 13 14:30:17 there are palmos apps to do that Dec 13 14:30:34 i meant in linux of course :-p Dec 13 14:30:34 none free software though Dec 13 14:30:54 but, should not be too hard to do that if you can get the device to work Dec 13 14:31:38 what do people usually do for networking? serial over usb? Dec 13 14:31:56 haven't done that yet Dec 13 14:31:57 ethernet over usb? Dec 13 14:32:09 serial might work, console does at least Dec 13 14:32:20 ppp over infrared is possibility Dec 13 14:32:43 just remember to include network stack :) Dec 13 14:33:19 better to compile as modules and then move to the filesystem, otherwise you might run into size issues with the zimage Dec 13 14:52:22 gnarface: bluetooth works, irda (irnet and irtty, though not at once), usb-cdc works Dec 13 17:41:13 Marex works (TM) Dec 13 22:49:27 ugh Dec 13 22:49:34 palm pilot charger == ftl Dec 13 23:53:45 whut ? Dec 14 00:19:44 i've got a flaky connection on my palm charger Dec 14 00:19:47 its limiting me Dec 14 00:30:07 gnarface: well ... can't be helped Dec 14 00:30:20 you can setup scatternet via bluetooth Dec 14 00:30:39 gnarface: but does the new kernel work ? Dec 14 00:31:20 Marex: i'd know if i could get my palm charged up enough to stay alive long enough to even set the time... Dec 14 00:33:50 ah I see Dec 14 00:34:00 well ... I can't help you with that Dec 14 00:36:49 i'll get it eventually there's just no way to tell whether its actually charging or not when there's not enough juice for it to beep Dec 14 00:36:59 so i basically just have to plug it in and wiggle the wire a bit and hope for the best Dec 14 00:37:06 then a few hours later i might get lucky Dec 14 00:37:20 i knew i should have bought their stupid docking station :-p Dec 14 00:54:33 why not fix the cable ? Dec 14 00:55:59 i gotta get some work done right now Dec 14 00:56:27 but i'll look into it Dec 14 00:56:50 gnarface: you're in IT ? Dec 14 00:57:47 Marex: yes Dec 14 01:01:01 gnarface: what're you doing there ? Dec 14 01:01:11 I mean ... what stuff are you working on ? Dec 14 01:04:56 Marex: the palm pilot isn't for work, i just have a sick fascination with installing linux on old hardware. its sortof a hobby. plus, i would actually find it of use because i do a lot of linux system administration and i've become more accustomed to their tools Dec 14 01:16:35 gnarface: i ran openbsd on T5 :b Dec 14 01:25:50 Marex: nice. Dec 14 02:15:37 Marex: what do i do for a userspace once i get the kernel on there? can i use debian? **** ENDING LOGGING AT Wed Dec 14 02:59:57 2011