**** BEGIN LOGGING AT Fri Apr 06 03:00:00 2012
Apr 06 13:04:53 <gnarface> hey guys
Apr 06 13:05:04 <gnarface> i still want to get linux running on my palm pilot
Apr 06 13:05:39 <gnarface> i ran into trouble cause i couldn't figure out the actual compliation command
Apr 06 13:05:49 <gnarface> then i need to learn to boot it
Apr 06 14:18:30 <Marex> gnarface: pilot ? you mean the m68k ?
Apr 06 14:18:48 <Marex> there was project about that on sourceforce, trying to run ucLinux on that one ... since it's a NOMMU device
Apr 06 14:19:02 <Marex> you might be able to run it, but it's gonna need a lot of research
Apr 06 14:19:28 <Marex> otherwise, if you have some of the newer series -- starting with TT/Z71, that's MMU-based and all the code for that is in mainline linux
Apr 06 14:19:37 <Marex> you'd need to roll your own userland
Apr 06 14:19:55 <Marex> anyway, I'm off now, I'll be back in 5 hours or so ... and probably tomorrow
Apr 06 14:31:02 <gnarface> Marex: no it was the palm pilot
Apr 06 14:31:11 <gnarface> xscale something-or-another
Apr 06 14:32:19 <gnarface> just need cross-compilation command lines
Apr 06 14:32:34 <gnarface> ARCH="armel" ?
Apr 06 14:32:40 <gnarface> there is more to it than that right?
Apr 06 14:32:49 <gnarface> compared to compiling for your own arch?
Apr 06 14:34:33 <gnarface> Marex palm pilot tungsten t5
Apr 06 16:26:57 <Marex> gnarface: that;s actually not called pilot anymore
Apr 06 16:27:20 <Marex> yes, for kernel, .... make ARCH=arm CROSS_COMPILE=arm-linux-gnueabi-
Apr 06 16:52:43 <gnarface> ok
Apr 06 16:52:56 <gnarface> no pci bus, right?
Apr 06 17:40:15 <Marex> gnarface: what for ?
Apr 06 17:40:22 <Marex> try make palmt5_config
Apr 06 17:40:24 <Marex> or defconfig
Apr 06 17:40:28 <Marex> dunno, one of them, should work
Apr 06 17:59:01 <gnarface> interesting
Apr 06 17:59:15 <gnarface> i can't recall if i did that
Apr 06 17:59:20 <gnarface> i know the processor type shows up
Apr 06 17:59:30 <gnarface> i have the right processor type selected in my currently in-progress config
Apr 06 17:59:37 <gnarface> you told me which to select
Apr 06 18:00:26 <gnarface> its a question of disabling everything else
Apr 06 18:00:33 <gnarface> just to get it out of the way for compilation
Apr 06 18:00:37 <gnarface> save some time
Apr 06 18:00:59 <gnarface> maybe ram too
Apr 06 18:01:08 <gnarface> also i gotta compile network and bluetooth and stuff in right?
Apr 06 18:01:31 <gnarface> i tought i remember reading initrd won't work
Apr 06 20:17:45 <Marex> start with arch/arm/configs/palmz72_defconfig
Apr 06 20:17:59 <Marex> (make ARCH=... CROSS_COMPILE=... palmz72_defconfig)
Apr 06 20:18:18 <Marex> then run make menuconfig, select also palmt5, disable V4L (drivers->media) and you should be set
Apr 06 21:41:34 <gnarface> from any particular version of the vanilla source or source for my distro?
Apr 06 21:48:41 <gnarface> and after that run make bzImage?
Apr 06 21:48:57 <gnarface> what about the initrd?
Apr 06 21:49:02 <gnarface> i mean initrd?
Apr 06 21:52:22 <gnarface> wait i'm doing something wrong
Apr 06 21:52:33 <gnarface> make defconfig first?
Apr 06 21:53:08 <Marex> make palmz72_defconfig maybe
Apr 06 21:53:18 <Marex> or palmz72_config ... I never remember which on it is
Apr 06 21:53:20 <Marex> *one
Apr 06 21:53:27 <Marex> gnarface: you can use linus's tree
Apr 06 21:53:41 <Marex> after that, run make .... zImage
Apr 06 21:53:54 <Marex> initrd well, roll it yourself or use initramfs
Apr 06 21:53:59 <gnarface> *** Can't find default configuration "arch/arm/configs/arch/arm/configs/palmz72_defconfig"!
Apr 06 21:54:03 <gnarface> says that
Apr 06 21:54:15 <gnarface> but its there
Apr 06 21:54:24 <gnarface> ARCH="arm" CROSS_COMPILE="arm-linux-gnueabi" make arch/arm/configs/palmz72_defconfig ?
Apr 06 21:54:31 <gnarface> the file is there
Apr 06 21:54:51 <gnarface> i broke it...
Apr 06 21:54:53 <Marex> heh ... looks like a bug in the kernel buildsystem
Apr 06 21:54:57 <Marex> no
Apr 06 21:55:14 <Marex> really just run make ARCH="arm" CROSS_COMPILE="arm-linux-gnueabi" palmz72_config
Apr 06 21:55:17 <gnarface> that was 3.1.5
Apr 06 21:55:17 <Marex> without the full path
Apr 06 21:55:55 <gnarface> ARCH="arm" CROSS_COMPILE="arm-linux-gnueabi" make palmz72_defconfig
Apr 06 21:55:56 <gnarface> ?
Apr 06 21:56:02 <gnarface> # configuration written to .config
Apr 06 21:56:05 <gnarface> seemed to work!
Apr 06 21:56:19 <gnarface> now make menuconfig?
Apr 06 21:56:30 <Marex> yep
Apr 06 21:56:33 <gnarface> or ARCH="arm" CROSS_COMPILE="arm-linux-gnueabi" make menuconfig?
Apr 06 21:56:39 <Marex> ^ this
Apr 06 21:57:01 <gnarface> ok
Apr 06 21:57:03 <gnarface> now what
Apr 06 21:57:05 <gnarface> cpu type?
Apr 06 21:57:14 <Marex> if you run make menuconfig just like that ... kbuild would assume you run with ARCH=(default) which is $(uname -m)
Apr 06 21:57:27 <Marex> that should all be set already by the defconfig
Apr 06 21:57:52 <Marex> just toggle on palmtt5 support and disable devicedrivers -> media (v4l) stuff
Apr 06 21:58:10 <gnarface> hmm
Apr 06 21:58:26 <gnarface> where to toggle palm tt5 support?
Apr 06 21:59:43 <Marex> third entry from the top in main manu
Apr 06 21:59:50 <Marex> then ... system type I think
Apr 06 22:00:25 <gnarface> and why disable v4l?
Apr 06 22:00:39 <gnarface> broken?
Apr 06 22:02:00 <gnarface> system type
Apr 06 22:02:16 <gnarface> arm system type, pxa2xx/pxa3xx-based?
Apr 06 22:04:10 <gnarface> aaj
Apr 06 22:04:14 <gnarface> aah, Intel PXA2xx/PXA3xx Implementations ?
Apr 06 22:04:52 <gnarface> i see  [*] PXA based Palm PDAs,[*] Palm Tungsten|E2, [*] Palm Tungsten|C,   │ │                                                        [*] Palm Tungsten|T5                                                                                                          │ │
Apr 06 22:04:56 <gnarface> etc
Apr 06 22:05:00 <gnarface> should i uncheck all but mine?
Apr 06 22:06:51 <gnarface> and bluetooth?
Apr 06 22:07:02 <gnarface> is there a way to get that working? i see its off by default
Apr 06 22:10:28 <gnarface> so when i'm done doing the menuconfig, then i compile it like this? ARCH="arm" CROSS_COMPILE="arm-linux-gnueabi" make -j4 zImage
Apr 06 22:10:56 <gnarface> woops it exploded
Apr 06 22:11:06 <gnarface> without -j4 as well
Apr 06 22:11:09 <gnarface> :(
Apr 06 22:12:51 <Marex> pastebin the error
Apr 06 22:12:58 <Marex> yes ... you can uncheck all but yours
Apr 06 22:13:10 <Marex> v4l isn't needed on your device -- z72 has builtin camera
Apr 06 22:13:27 <Marex> bluetooth -- enable bluetooth uart in networking->bluetooth->somewhere there
Apr 06 22:14:28 <gnarface> hmm. v4l appears to be off already...
Apr 06 22:14:45 <gnarface> under device drivers->multimedia support-> right?
Apr 06 22:15:22 <gnarface> compile everything in because i can't load an initrd.img?
Apr 06 22:15:34 <Marex> what do you mean ?
Apr 06 22:15:39 <gnarface> or can i?
Apr 06 22:15:41 <gnarface> i thought i couldn't
Apr 06 22:15:43 <Marex> WHAT ?
Apr 06 22:16:00 <Marex> I ain't following ...
Apr 06 22:16:12 <Marex> you can load initRD via cocoboot, sure
Apr 06 22:16:14 <gnarface> also: HCI SDIO driver ,  HCI UART driver (NEW) , HCI VHCI (Virtual HCI device) driver (NEW), Marvell Bluetooth driver support (NEW)  which one?
Apr 06 22:16:23 <gnarface> oh, cool
Apr 06 22:16:39 <Marex> HCI UART
Apr 06 22:17:16 <gnarface>  UART (H4) protocol support (NEW)  , BCSP protocol support (NEW),  Atheros AR300x serial support (NEW),  HCILL protocol support (NEW)         ?
Apr 06 22:18:04 <gnarface> how about infra-red?
Apr 06 22:18:29 <Marex> pxa-ir works I guess
Apr 06 22:19:35 <gnarface> so, ARCH="arm" CROSS_COMPILE="arm-linux-gnueabi" make bzImage                                                                                                     ?
Apr 06 22:19:36 <gnarface> ?
Apr 06 22:20:15 <Marex> s/bzImage/zImage
Apr 06 22:20:40 <gnarface> it barfed
Apr 06 22:21:30 <gnarface> http://paste.debian.net/162369/
Apr 06 22:23:02 <Marex> gnarface: well ... guess what's the problem
Apr 06 22:26:10 <gnarface> http://paste.debian.net/162370/
Apr 06 22:26:12 <gnarface> fresh source
Apr 06 22:26:16 <gnarface> new version too
Apr 06 22:26:51 <gnarface> thats after running ARCH="arm" CROSS_COMPILE="arm-linux-gnueabi" make palmz72_defconfig and ARCH="arm" CROSS_COMPILE="arm-linux-gnueabi" make menuconfig
Apr 06 22:27:08 <gnarface> i'm missing something, aren't i?
Apr 06 22:27:12 <gnarface> something important?
Apr 06 22:32:05 <Marex> well ... look at the compiler string it's missing
Apr 06 22:32:15 <Marex> I think it'll give you the necessary hint
Apr 06 22:37:15 <Marex> gnarface: gnueabi- <--- you're missing the damn '-' sign there
Apr 06 22:38:00 <gnarface> woops
Apr 06 22:45:36 <gnarface> ARCH="arm" CROSS_COMPILE="arm-linux-gnueabi-" make zImage
Apr 06 22:45:39 <gnarface> i do it all over
Apr 06 22:45:45 <gnarface> but i still get make: arm-linux-gnueabi-gcc: Command not found
Apr 06 22:45:50 <gnarface> and then a bunch of barf
Apr 06 22:53:07 <Marex> you ... do have a cross compiler, right ?
Apr 06 22:53:33 <Marex> I ain't no trying to make you an idiot ... but ...
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