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Mar 12 13:02:24 <MEDiCentiOLT> Sup
Mar 12 13:02:38 <MEDiCentiOLT> How active is this channel?
Mar 12 14:16:34 <MEDiCentiOLT> Sup Jantz
Mar 12 14:19:36 <Jantz> hey MEDiCentiOLT sapnin? just flicking through some Jason Bourne scenes looking for clues lol, up 2?
Mar 12 14:29:30 <MEDiCentiOLT> Just doing some dev work while watching Mr. Robot
Mar 12 14:29:37 <MEDiCentiOLT> It's quite inspiring
Mar 12 14:32:01 <Jantz> sounds cool
Mar 12 14:33:15 <Jantz> you using VS or?
Mar 12 14:40:34 <MEDiCentiOLT> Prefer VSCode Insiders but can't use that at work
Mar 12 14:40:37 <MEDiCentiOLT> Do you code?
Mar 12 14:42:17 <Jantz> just skimmed through a C book as of late, tonnes more to read, will be analyzing alot of C opensource repos soon
Mar 12 14:43:38 <Jantz> first i heard of Mr Robot sounds coolas downloading as we speak, should use a vpn but meh
Mar 12 14:44:05 <Jantz> you staying home because of the virus?
Mar 12 14:44:36 <MEDiCentiOLT> It is good but weird, a lot of drugs involved.
Mar 12 14:45:16 <MEDiCentiOLT> Not home yet, the UK is still with open borders, are you isolated?
Mar 12 14:45:25 <Jantz> oh drugs yeah i heard theyre testing the youngins full on these days
Mar 12 14:45:57 <Jantz> nz is planning on following suit so the prime minister says
Mar 12 14:46:47 <MEDiCentiOLT> listening to the gov... They move too slow
Mar 12 14:47:21 <MEDiCentiOLT> They want to slow down infection instead of stopping it.
Mar 12 14:47:59 <MEDiCentiOLT> probably reasonable but don't agree with it
Mar 12 14:49:38 <Jantz> labs are in full swing though all the same, i think there was major funding for the vaccine though yeah?
Mar 12 14:49:52 <Jantz> from UK or somewhere in Eu
Mar 12 14:51:02 <Jantz> some scriptural reference to the last days (evil push) need to teach vigilance
Mar 12 14:51:13 <MEDiCentiOLT> Well, the UK is paying people something like £3230 which I guess is roughly $AU7000
Mar 12 14:51:57 <Jantz> thought they were putting like millions into it
Mar 12 14:52:07 <Jantz> or was it billions
Mar 12 14:52:49 <MEDiCentiOLT> Well, that is how much they are paying voluteers to be injected with coronavirus to work on a vaccine
Mar 12 14:53:02 <MEDiCentiOLT> so they are probably putting that much into it
Mar 12 14:54:20 <Jantz> ha is ide preference at work stipulated by the bosses or?
Mar 12 14:55:25 <Jantz> you were kidding right?
Mar 12 14:55:54 <Jantz> brb
Mar 12 14:55:57 <MEDiCentiOLT> by the software. C# is not that nice to work in with VSCode.
Mar 12 14:56:41 <MEDiCentiOLT> Not kidding. It's in the news
Mar 12 14:58:57 <Jantz> didnt see it in Reuters, Aljazeera or CNN
Mar 12 14:59:45 <Jantz> those others say all sorts of stuff
Mar 12 15:00:45 <MEDiCentiOLT> Sorry, UK news
Mar 12 15:02:47 <Jantz> anyways, have you seen all three seasons of Mr Robot? (please dont spoil) dang what a stupid question
Mar 12 15:04:03 <Jantz> sorry 4*
Mar 12 15:08:25 <Jantz> C# is Microsofts premier language isnt it? probably want dev's on VS Online then id guess
Mar 12 15:11:37 <MEDiCentiOLT> I'm currently in Season 2 Episode 2.
Mar 12 15:12:33 <Jantz> hour episodes?
Mar 12 15:12:54 <MEDiCentiOLT> I kinda prefer the things that were made to run on Linux, Fuck Microsoft :D
Mar 12 15:12:54 <Jantz> or half?
Mar 12 15:13:04 <MEDiCentiOLT> Hour long episodes
Mar 12 15:13:09 <Jantz> righto
Mar 12 15:13:40 <MEDiCentiOLT> Have you done javascript before?
Mar 12 15:13:52 <Jantz> Microsoft you hating because of the old legal battles or? i might have missed alot to be fair
Mar 12 15:14:28 <MEDiCentiOLT> I just don't like the giants who like to use your data for more $$$
Mar 12 15:14:53 <Jantz> yeah planning on getting into it but i duno will probs just stick with C tbh or C++ i think the best software in the world is C/C++
Mar 12 15:16:19 <MEDiCentiOLT> Never tried them so can't give my opinion on it but having done other languages in the past, I love Typescript, it has the good bits from C and C# and the good bits from other langs like Ruby and Python.
Mar 12 15:17:58 <Jantz> the USS Enterprise's OS is C too I heard
Mar 12 15:17:59 <MEDiCentiOLT> I am guessing C/C++ is more for native desktop apps?
Mar 12 15:19:52 <MEDiCentiOLT> Are you talking about the US ship?
Mar 12 15:20:34 <Jantz> yeah i guess, so big team operations
Mar 12 15:21:11 <MEDiCentiOLT> True that
Mar 12 15:21:15 <Jantz> star trek is pretty cool but yeah lol
Mar 12 15:21:17 <MEDiCentiOLT> You into hacking?
Mar 12 15:21:40 <MEDiCentiOLT> Never seen it but heard of it.
Mar 12 15:22:06 <Jantz> not for nefarious purposes, joined this channel to help learn pentesting
Mar 12 15:22:26 <Jantz> you pentest?
Mar 12 15:22:40 <MEDiCentiOLT> I kind of do it for fun atm
Mar 12 15:22:53 <MEDiCentiOLT> I guess it can be classed as pentesting
Mar 12 15:23:17 <MEDiCentiOLT> Hacked a game the other day. It feels amazing the feeling of accomplishment
Mar 12 15:25:24 <Jantz> everything needs to be secure as it can be I believe, moreso critical infrastructure so just thinking of having very good security measures in my code but yeah im only an infant in the software realm really, hacked a game? pretty cool i guess
Mar 12 15:26:24 <Jantz> i think the best measures are not of this world really sounds crazy i know
Mar 12 15:37:27 <MEDiCentiOLT> Sorry, just went to the shop to get some more fuel (Iced Coffee)
Mar 12 15:38:32 <MEDiCentiOLT> Well, You can argue that OSS is actually the safest ones as there are thousands of people contributing to it and as the source code is open sourced, it's easy for outsiders to find and report bugs
Mar 12 15:38:50 <MEDiCentiOLT> But I know there will be people who will argue that point
Mar 12 15:45:19 <MEDiCentiOLT> Welcome mr_lou
Mar 12 15:45:35 <mr_lou> Hey
Mar 12 15:46:18 <MEDiCentiOLT> You a hacker or a dev?
Mar 12 15:47:06 <mr_lou> Mostly a dev I think.
Mar 12 15:47:13 <MEDiCentiOLT> Nice
Mar 12 15:47:16 <MEDiCentiOLT> Same here
Mar 12 15:47:29 <MEDiCentiOLT> You new here?
Mar 12 15:48:25 <mr_lou> All is relative.
Mar 12 15:49:04 <mr_lou> Join a few months ago I think.
Mar 12 15:53:30 <MEDiCentiOLT> I joined today so you seem to know a lot more about these communities than me
Mar 12 15:54:41 <mr_lou> Hm well.... I know that they're mostly dead. ;-)
Mar 12 15:54:47 <mr_lou> Nothing much ever happening here.
Mar 12 15:54:59 <MEDiCentiOLT> I guess we should change that
Mar 12 15:55:05 <mr_lou> What you into?
Mar 12 15:55:10 <MEDiCentiOLT> Hacking
Mar 12 15:55:14 <mr_lou> What kind of hacking?
Mar 12 15:55:17 <MEDiCentiOLT> but I really don't know much of it
Mar 12 15:55:41 <mr_lou> I joined a lot of hacking channels a few months ago, because I wanted to hack a Netgear NeoTV 550.
Mar 12 15:55:56 <mr_lou> Wanted to modify it a bit, firmware wise.
Mar 12 15:56:01 <mr_lou> Embedded linux
Mar 12 15:56:45 <MEDiCentiOLT> Guessing you do a fair amount of low level dev work?
Mar 12 16:37:22 <mr_lou> Not really.
Mar 12 16:40:36 <Marex> MEDiCentiOLT: I was just curious, since e.g. TF-A is open-source software, how is it possible that various board vendors release only binaries ?
Mar 12 16:41:06 <Marex> and they still stay within the confines of the license, so this is legal from the license perspective
Mar 12 16:41:22 <Marex> https://developer.arm.com/tools-and-software/open-source-software/firmware/trusted-firmware this stuff
Mar 12 16:42:58 <Marex> Jantz: this channel is not related to security research, see the topic, it was an old project doing embedded linux development for palmos devices
Mar 12 22:15:33 <Marex> farcaller: how are you holding up during the coronapocalypse ?
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